Im not sure why you seems surprised . Today's MMOs are built to attract as many people as they can, to get as many subs as they can, "no challenge, instant gratification, no risk mentality , i want it all right now", thats what WoW mastered and it seems the whole industry is stuck there.
They dont care about creating community , the game's fabric itself creates that terrible mentality; What games like UO or EQ achieves in terms of friendship and community, todays games will never reproduces it , ever.
Those who experinced that were very lucky, and when you see what MMOS have become, its a shame really.
I find it really funny that someone tried to blame this on PvP, PvE servers are much worse than PvP when it comes to things like ninja looting and min/max for dungeons.
The thing I find the funniest about the Rift community is that I don't hear the stupid 'its a wow clone' shit like I did in other mmo's. In Warhammer it was everyone, people crying how its a ripoff of wow(most of those morons not knowing the history between Blizz & GW), then again in Aion it was "omfg! This is just like WoW but with asian graphics!!" & then again even in DCUO which completely amazed me because I couldn't find any similarities there. But here in Rift, nobody mentions WoW or when they do its to bash. It's the weirdest thing. I mean its not that I think Rift is a WoW clone but of all the games I listed you'd think that Rift most closely resembles WoW in many ways & yet.... people don't get it.
The thing I find the funniest about the Rift community is that I don't hear the stupid 'its a wow clone' shit like I did in other mmo's. In Warhammer it was everyone, people crying how its a ripoff of wow(most of those morons not knowing the history between Blizz & GW), then again in Aion it was "omfg! This is just like WoW but with asian graphics!!" & then again even in DCUO which completely amazed me because I couldn't find any similarities there. But here in Rift, nobody mentions WoW or when they do its to bash. It's the weirdest thing. I mean its not that I think Rift is a WoW clone but of all the games I listed you'd think that Rift most closely resembles WoW in many ways & yet.... people don't get it.
Rift is definetly a WoW clone.. no doubt.. if there ever was one.. Rift is it.
The thing I find the funniest about the Rift community is that I don't hear the stupid 'its a wow clone' shit like I did in other mmo's. In Warhammer it was everyone, people crying how its a ripoff of wow(most of those morons not knowing the history between Blizz & GW), then again in Aion it was "omfg! This is just like WoW but with asian graphics!!" & then again even in DCUO which completely amazed me because I couldn't find any similarities there. But here in Rift, nobody mentions WoW or when they do its to bash. It's the weirdest thing. I mean its not that I think Rift is a WoW clone but of all the games I listed you'd think that Rift most closely resembles WoW in many ways & yet.... people don't get it.
Rift is definetly a WoW clone.. no doubt.. if there ever was one.. Rift is it.
The thing I find the funniest about the Rift community is that I don't hear the stupid 'its a wow clone' shit like I did in other mmo's. In Warhammer it was everyone, people crying how its a ripoff of wow(most of those morons not knowing the history between Blizz & GW), then again in Aion it was "omfg! This is just like WoW but with asian graphics!!" & then again even in DCUO which completely amazed me because I couldn't find any similarities there. But here in Rift, nobody mentions WoW or when they do its to bash. It's the weirdest thing. I mean its not that I think Rift is a WoW clone but of all the games I listed you'd think that Rift most closely resembles WoW in many ways & yet.... people don't get it.
Rift is definetly a WoW clone.. no doubt.. if there ever was one.. Rift is it.
where in wow do rifts open?
World boss much? just because a game has an added feature doesn't mean they haven't done everything to build the game around the feel of another.. If there ever was a Wow clone.. Rift is it hands down.. look at their marketing "Youre not in Azeroth anymore" wt!?!? They might as well keep some of the NPC names from Wow.
The thing I find the funniest about the Rift community is that I don't hear the stupid 'its a wow clone' shit like I did in other mmo's. In Warhammer it was everyone, people crying how its a ripoff of wow(most of those morons not knowing the history between Blizz & GW), then again in Aion it was "omfg! This is just like WoW but with asian graphics!!" & then again even in DCUO which completely amazed me because I couldn't find any similarities there. But here in Rift, nobody mentions WoW or when they do its to bash. It's the weirdest thing. I mean its not that I think Rift is a WoW clone but of all the games I listed you'd think that Rift most closely resembles WoW in many ways & yet.... people don't get it.
Rift is definetly a WoW clone.. no doubt.. if there ever was one.. Rift is it.
where in wow do rifts open?
World boss much? just because a game has an added feature doesn't mean they haven't done everything to build the game around the feel of another.. If there ever was a Wow clone.. Rift is it hands down.. look at their marketing "Youre not in Azeroth anymore" wt!?!? They might as well keep some of the NPC names from Wow.
world bosses were in games prior to wow, so why isnt wow a clone of that game?
The thing I find the funniest about the Rift community is that I don't hear the stupid 'its a wow clone' shit like I did in other mmo's. In Warhammer it was everyone, people crying how its a ripoff of wow(most of those morons not knowing the history between Blizz & GW), then again in Aion it was "omfg! This is just like WoW but with asian graphics!!" & then again even in DCUO which completely amazed me because I couldn't find any similarities there. But here in Rift, nobody mentions WoW or when they do its to bash. It's the weirdest thing. I mean its not that I think Rift is a WoW clone but of all the games I listed you'd think that Rift most closely resembles WoW in many ways & yet.... people don't get it.
Rift is definetly a WoW clone.. no doubt.. if there ever was one.. Rift is it.
where in wow do rifts open?
World boss much? just because a game has an added feature doesn't mean they haven't done everything to build the game around the feel of another.. If there ever was a Wow clone.. Rift is it hands down.. look at their marketing "Youre not in Azeroth anymore" wt!?!? They might as well keep some of the NPC names from Wow.
world bosses were in games prior to wow, so why isnt wow a clone of that game?
You really want to go down the road of "Captain Obvious".. in that case.. Pong was the first game with graphics and a controller on a major system.. so why cant we just say that Rift is a Pong clone?
The thing I find the funniest about the Rift community is that I don't hear the stupid 'its a wow clone' shit like I did in other mmo's. In Warhammer it was everyone, people crying how its a ripoff of wow(most of those morons not knowing the history between Blizz & GW), then again in Aion it was "omfg! This is just like WoW but with asian graphics!!" & then again even in DCUO which completely amazed me because I couldn't find any similarities there. But here in Rift, nobody mentions WoW or when they do its to bash. It's the weirdest thing. I mean its not that I think Rift is a WoW clone but of all the games I listed you'd think that Rift most closely resembles WoW in many ways & yet.... people don't get it.
Rift is definetly a WoW clone.. no doubt.. if there ever was one.. Rift is it.
where in wow do rifts open?
World boss much? just because a game has an added feature doesn't mean they haven't done everything to build the game around the feel of another.. If there ever was a Wow clone.. Rift is it hands down.. look at their marketing "Youre not in Azeroth anymore" wt!?!? They might as well keep some of the NPC names from Wow.
world bosses were in games prior to wow, so why isnt wow a clone of that game?
You really want to go down the road of "Captain Obvious".. in that case.. Pong was the first game with graphics and a controller on a major system.. so why cant we just say that Rift is a Pong clone?
Pong was based off of tennis for two on old radar equipment.
Mean seriously who cares whose used ideas for what game. Mean are we going to argue about RPGs old and new using D&D bored game elements such as leveling, progression, mutli-classing? Of course not. So why argue if a game is a clone of WoW?
You do realize WoW is a game that borrowed and used ideas from other games correct? Mean it's all a D&D coat of paint. Why not argue about everything being a D&D clone. Cause that's all you're playing. Just on a computer with pixels instead of stupid little plastic pieces and 50 billion dice.
When did you start playing "old school" MMO's. World Of Warcraft?
Well i don´t think is the game´s fault..... is the player´s fault...
I haven´t experienced that awfull behaviour in my server...people seem nice and cooperate.
I´m in a server with a lot of people from many countries like Uk...Spain...deenmark...Poland... and you see perfect respect among all and to be honest is the first time i see that much respect in a server.... specially in general chats where everyone speaks in english and not other languages....
Come to EU Blightweald dude^^ nice community here mature and friendly
I´d like to now which server are u playing in and what guild did that..... just to avoid playing with them ....
Blaming WoW for everything, are we?? Get a grip. It is people's free will to do whatsoever they please. I hate WoW, but I do not blame WoW for every friggins negative thing that happens in Rift.
Like this never happened in UO, EQ or AO, even at it's beginning? The term "ninja" is older than WoW, and the genre has been around for nearly a decade BEFORE WoW was released. Trust me; there were idiots in the MMO's from day 1.
Pong was based off of tennis for two on old radar equipment.
Mean seriously who cares whose used ideas for what game. Mean are we going to argue about RPGs old and new using D&D bored game elements such as leveling, progression, mutli-classing? Of course not. So why argue if a game is a clone of WoW?
You do realize WoW is a game that borrowed and used ideas from other games correct? Mean it's all a D&D coat of paint. Why not argue about everything being a D&D clone. Cause that's all you're playing. Just on a computer with pixels instead of stupid little plastic pieces and 50 billion dice.
Toyota makes a car that is a clone of a Honda.. but nobody says .. Hey!! They are so different.. They are clones because that is what people buy.. You don't hear people going around saying "Well Honda wasn't the first to make a compact car you know" of course it matters if it is a clone.. why level the same game.. pointless.. if you have 3 85s in WoW.. there is no point in doing it AGAIN in a clone..
A little "tip"; put them on ignore. You will never hear from them again. If you ever group up with them, just leave. This is how I get around these peoples. When they try to ask me why I am ignoring them, I just say that you have done something that deserves, so just get out of my face. (I do not always remember 'why' they ended up on my ignore list, but when they are there, I know it is for a good reason).
Now I'm not at all saying Warcraft rifts compared, but I do often wonder if the specific design of the event was a jab at RIFT.
(And yes, they worked the same way. Rifts weren't directly attackable, you killed the mobs--though wow's were garbage mobs with recycled elemental graphics--to seal the rift.)
Spec'ing properly is a gateway drug. 12 Million People have been meter spammed in heroics.
Now I'm not at all saying Warcraft rifts compared, but I do often wonder if the specific design of the event was a jab at RIFT.
(And yes, they worked the same way. Rifts weren't directly attackable, you killed the mobs--though wow's were garbage mobs with recycled elemental graphics--to seal the rift.)
good point.. they also had the spirit group spawns for pre-Wrath.
Now I'm not at all saying Warcraft rifts compared, but I do often wonder if the specific design of the event was a jab at RIFT.
(And yes, they worked the same way. Rifts weren't directly attackable, you killed the mobs--though wow's were garbage mobs with recycled elemental graphics--to seal the rift.)
even if they copied that what are you going to do make them not copy WOW? or D&D or any other mmorpg game out there?? THATS HOW HUMANS learn from one another from success and mistakes you cant do anything about the fact that any game is a wow clone because WOW is a Clone in itself ... remember this EVERY NEW IDEA COMES FROM A PREVIOUS IDEA and is made better...-_- i hate wow clone arguements from wow fanboys they are so pathetic.. wow is a good game thats why there are wow clones .. if rift in the future does better than wow there will be rift clones.. and rift fanboys will "omg rift clone everyone" lol just saying..stop argueing and play what you like best .. in the end its not about better graphics or game play think of why MMORPGS are even available for us..
i have played wow, and play rift enjoyed both, but their nothing alike enough to be called a clone
Now I'm not at all saying Warcraft rifts compared, but I do often wonder if the specific design of the event was a jab at RIFT.
(And yes, they worked the same way. Rifts weren't directly attackable, you killed the mobs--though wow's were garbage mobs with recycled elemental graphics--to seal the rift.)
even if they copied that what are you going to do make them not copy WOW? or D&D or any other mmorpg game out there?? THATS HOW HUMANS learn from one another from success and mistakes you cant do anything about the fact that any game is a wow clone because WOW is a Clone in itself ... remember this EVERY NEW IDEA COMES FROM A PREVIOUS IDEA and is made better...-_- i hate wow clone arguements from wow fanboys they are so pathetic.. wow is a good game thats why there are wow clones .. if rift in the future does better than wow there will be rift clones.. and rift fanboys will "omg rift clone everyone" lol just saying..stop argueing and play what you like best .. in the end its not about better graphics or game play think of why MMORPGS are even available for us..
Now I'm not at all saying Warcraft rifts compared, but I do often wonder if the specific design of the event was a jab at RIFT.
(And yes, they worked the same way. Rifts weren't directly attackable, you killed the mobs--though wow's were garbage mobs with recycled elemental graphics--to seal the rift.)
even if they copied that what are you going to do make them not copy WOW? or D&D or any other mmorpg game out there?? THATS HOW HUMANS learn from one another from success and mistakes you cant do anything about the fact that any game is a wow clone because WOW is a Clone in itself ... remember this EVERY NEW IDEA COMES FROM A PREVIOUS IDEA and is made better...-_- i hate wow clone arguements from wow fanboys they are so pathetic.. wow is a good game thats why there are wow clones .. if rift in the future does better than wow there will be rift clones.. and rift fanboys will "omg rift clone everyone" lol just saying..stop argueing and play what you like best .. in the end its not about better graphics or game play think of why MMORPGS are even available for us..
Calm down .
I didn't mean Rift copied rifts from WoW. They had to be way too far along by the time of Cata's launch event. I'm sure alpha had been going on for a while probably by the time the Cata launch event happened (November '10). As matter of fact, I implied the opposite, that maybe Blizzard knew something of RIFT and put Cata event's rifts in as a jab at Trion.
Spec'ing properly is a gateway drug. 12 Million People have been meter spammed in heroics.
Now I'm not at all saying Warcraft rifts compared, but I do often wonder if the specific design of the event was a jab at RIFT.
(And yes, they worked the same way. Rifts weren't directly attackable, you killed the mobs--though wow's were garbage mobs with recycled elemental graphics--to seal the rift.)
even if they copied that what are you going to do make them not copy WOW? or D&D or any other mmorpg game out there?? THATS HOW HUMANS learn from one another from success and mistakes you cant do anything about the fact that any game is a wow clone because WOW is a Clone in itself ... remember this EVERY NEW IDEA COMES FROM A PREVIOUS IDEA and is made better...-_- i hate wow clone arguements from wow fanboys they are so pathetic.. wow is a good game thats why there are wow clones .. if rift in the future does better than wow there will be rift clones.. and rift fanboys will "omg rift clone everyone" lol just saying..stop argueing and play what you like best .. in the end its not about better graphics or game play think of why MMORPGS are even available for us..
Calm down .
I didn't mean Rift copied rifts from WoW. They had to be way too far along by the time of Cata's launch event. I'm sure alpha had been going on for a while probably by the time the Cata launch event happened (November '10). As matter of fact, I implied the opposite, that maybe Blizzard knew something of RIFT and put Cata event's rifts in as a jab at Trion.
^ That's what I always figured personally. Or perhaps Blizzard was just trying to see how well people enjoyed chasing Rifts from place to place, and then try to figure from the communities response how many people might leave. Just a theory.
Play your character the way you want to play it. When some dbag comes along trying to tell you how to play, tell him to turn it sideways and stick it up his candy ass. You playing Rift should be about you having fun, and not about pleasing some immature idiot that you've never met and will never meet, ever.
There's a reason we are given four different roles to choose from. If your guild or group deem it necessary, switch roles for a little while if it's not a big deal. Otherwise, screw everyone else.
Play your character the way you want to play it. When some dbag comes along trying to tell you how to play, tell him to turn it sideways and stick it up his candy ass. You playing Rift should be about you having fun, and not about pleasing some immature idiot that you've never met and will never meet, ever.
There's a reason we are given four different roles to choose from. If your guild or group deem it necessary, switch roles for a little while if it's not a big deal. Otherwise, screw everyone else.
You forgot to shine it up real shiney and nice. ;D Pro reference is pro.
To OP... IF the items would have been somehing else than a bow (and im assuming you're ranger or marksman) you would not be crying about it here. But then again i see the pattern there, but you do need money too in Rift but that alone should not allow you to need over greed.
But as long as there are people playing games (that are not on your own guild) there will be asswipes like this.
the best way to kill a troll is to FLAME ON! ...or with acid...
Dude.. it's a Wow clone.. What did you expect.. Heck.. they even put it in their marketing.. "Youre not in Azeroth anymore" They build a Wow clone.. and they want the Wow groups.. simple logic.. these MMOs bore me to death.. I already canceled my sub. Good luck to anyone who wants to relevel to 85 in this game.
You've never played the game as it is obvious from this post. Why grace us with your comments?
Edit to put an s on comment. Really now, for somebody who knows close to nothing about Rift, you sure have a rather strong opinion about it.
Dude.. it's a Wow clone.. What did you expect.. Heck.. they even put it in their marketing.. "Youre not in Azeroth anymore" They build a Wow clone.. and they want the Wow groups.. simple logic.. these MMOs bore me to death.. I already canceled my sub. Good luck to anyone who wants to relevel to 85 in this game.
You've never played the game as it is obvious from this post. Why grace us with your comment?
But.. but.. He said he cancelled the sub! :x
Seriously, he thinks they will raise the lvl cap to 85 just like WoW did etc... But still, i mean yeah there are lots of similiar aspects in the game. But its not a clone, clone word itself means something completely different. :P
the best way to kill a troll is to FLAME ON! ...or with acid...
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Im not sure why you seems surprised . Today's MMOs are built to attract as many people as they can, to get as many subs as they can, "no challenge, instant gratification, no risk mentality , i want it all right now", thats what WoW mastered and it seems the whole industry is stuck there.
They dont care about creating community , the game's fabric itself creates that terrible mentality; What games like UO or EQ achieves in terms of friendship and community, todays games will never reproduces it , ever.
Those who experinced that were very lucky, and when you see what MMOS have become, its a shame really.
I find it really funny that someone tried to blame this on PvP, PvE servers are much worse than PvP when it comes to things like ninja looting and min/max for dungeons.
The thing I find the funniest about the Rift community is that I don't hear the stupid 'its a wow clone' shit like I did in other mmo's. In Warhammer it was everyone, people crying how its a ripoff of wow(most of those morons not knowing the history between Blizz & GW), then again in Aion it was "omfg! This is just like WoW but with asian graphics!!" & then again even in DCUO which completely amazed me because I couldn't find any similarities there. But here in Rift, nobody mentions WoW or when they do its to bash. It's the weirdest thing. I mean its not that I think Rift is a WoW clone but of all the games I listed you'd think that Rift most closely resembles WoW in many ways & yet.... people don't get it.
Rift is definetly a WoW clone.. no doubt.. if there ever was one.. Rift is it.
where in wow do rifts open?
World boss much? just because a game has an added feature doesn't mean they haven't done everything to build the game around the feel of another.. If there ever was a Wow clone.. Rift is it hands down.. look at their marketing "Youre not in Azeroth anymore" wt!?!? They might as well keep some of the NPC names from Wow.
world bosses were in games prior to wow, so why isnt wow a clone of that game?
You really want to go down the road of "Captain Obvious".. in that case.. Pong was the first game with graphics and a controller on a major system.. so why cant we just say that Rift is a Pong clone?
according to your logic we should
Pong was based off of tennis for two on old radar equipment.
Mean seriously who cares whose used ideas for what game. Mean are we going to argue about RPGs old and new using D&D bored game elements such as leveling, progression, mutli-classing? Of course not. So why argue if a game is a clone of WoW?
You do realize WoW is a game that borrowed and used ideas from other games correct? Mean it's all a D&D coat of paint. Why not argue about everything being a D&D clone. Cause that's all you're playing. Just on a computer with pixels instead of stupid little plastic pieces and 50 billion dice.
When did you start playing "old school" MMO's. World Of Warcraft?
Well i don´t think is the game´s fault..... is the player´s fault...
I haven´t experienced that awfull behaviour in my server...people seem nice and cooperate.
I´m in a server with a lot of people from many countries like Uk...Spain...deenmark...Poland... and you see perfect respect among all and to be honest is the first time i see that much respect in a server.... specially in general chats where everyone speaks in english and not other languages....
Come to EU Blightweald dude^^ nice community here
mature and friendly
I´d like to now which server are u playing in and what guild did that..... just to avoid playing with them ....
regards
Blaming WoW for everything, are we?? Get a grip. It is people's free will to do whatsoever they please. I hate WoW, but I do not blame WoW for every friggins negative thing that happens in Rift.
Like this never happened in UO, EQ or AO, even at it's beginning? The term "ninja" is older than WoW, and the genre has been around for nearly a decade BEFORE WoW was released. Trust me; there were idiots in the MMO's from day 1.
Make us care MORE about our faction & world pvp!
Toyota makes a car that is a clone of a Honda.. but nobody says .. Hey!! They are so different.. They are clones because that is what people buy.. You don't hear people going around saying "Well Honda wasn't the first to make a compact car you know" of course it matters if it is a clone.. why level the same game.. pointless.. if you have 3 85s in WoW.. there is no point in doing it AGAIN in a clone..
A little "tip"; put them on ignore. You will never hear from them again. If you ever group up with them, just leave. This is how I get around these peoples. When they try to ask me why I am ignoring them, I just say that you have done something that deserves, so just get out of my face. (I do not always remember 'why' they ended up on my ignore list, but when they are there, I know it is for a good reason).
Make us care MORE about our faction & world pvp!
Cataclysm pre-launch event.
http://www.wowhead.com/achievement=4887/tripping-the-rifts
Now I'm not at all saying Warcraft rifts compared, but I do often wonder if the specific design of the event was a jab at RIFT.
(And yes, they worked the same way. Rifts weren't directly attackable, you killed the mobs--though wow's were garbage mobs with recycled elemental graphics--to seal the rift.)
Spec'ing properly is a gateway drug.
12 Million People have been meter spammed in heroics.
good point.. they also had the spirit group spawns for pre-Wrath.
i have played wow, and play rift enjoyed both, but their nothing alike enough to be called a clone
i hate wow.. which is why im not playing rift..
Calm down
.
I didn't mean Rift copied rifts from WoW. They had to be way too far along by the time of Cata's launch event. I'm sure alpha had been going on for a while probably by the time the Cata launch event happened (November '10). As matter of fact, I implied the opposite, that maybe Blizzard knew something of RIFT and put Cata event's rifts in as a jab at Trion.
Spec'ing properly is a gateway drug.
12 Million People have been meter spammed in heroics.
^ That's what I always figured personally. Or perhaps Blizzard was just trying to see how well people enjoyed chasing Rifts from place to place, and then try to figure from the communities response how many people might leave. Just a theory.
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Play your character the way you want to play it. When some dbag comes along trying to tell you how to play, tell him to turn it sideways and stick it up his candy ass. You playing Rift should be about you having fun, and not about pleasing some immature idiot that you've never met and will never meet, ever.
There's a reason we are given four different roles to choose from. If your guild or group deem it necessary, switch roles for a little while if it's not a big deal. Otherwise, screw everyone else.
You forgot to shine it up real shiney and nice. ;D Pro reference is pro.
But I couldn't agree more.
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To OP... IF the items would have been somehing else than a bow (and im assuming you're ranger or marksman) you would not be crying about it here. But then again i see the pattern there, but you do need money too in Rift but that alone should not allow you to need over greed.
But as long as there are people playing games (that are not on your own guild) there will be asswipes like this.
the best way to kill a troll is to FLAME ON! ...or with acid...
You've never played the game as it is obvious from this post. Why grace us with your comments?
Edit to put an s on comment. Really now, for somebody who knows close to nothing about Rift, you sure have a rather strong opinion about it.
But.. but.. He said he cancelled the sub! :x
Seriously, he thinks they will raise the lvl cap to 85 just like WoW did etc... But still, i mean yeah there are lots of similiar aspects in the game. But its not a clone, clone word itself means something completely different. :P
the best way to kill a troll is to FLAME ON! ...or with acid...