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I'm curious about server memory and my motherboard... I have an ASUS M4N72-E motherboard and it can fit up to 4x4Gb of DDR2 memory. Now common 4Gb DDR2 memory is rather hard to find, in Holland and overly expensive but I keep seeing these 4Gb HP Server memory banks on eBay. So I was wondering if I could drop server memory banks onm y mobo...
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If you have the manual it should tell you which memory is compatible. Or you can find out on the asus webstie. I have the same mobo as you and I've been thinking about upgrading my memory and I've seen memory for under 100 bucks on newegg. I just don't see a reason to upgrade other than I want to so I'll just wait till my next system overhaul then get better memory.
ASUS site is down right now for me
Also, newegg is no option for me since I live outside the US and importing a $100 item would mean I'd end up around $150, and even with the low EURO<>US$ rate it's too expensive for me.
I did see only 1 real 8Gb set in Holland at MyCom, but it's still a bit over-budget for me.
DDR2 isn't that hard to get outside the US, plenty here http://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/all/memory-ram/ddr2-pc4300-5300-5400-(533-667mhz)/ddr2-pc6400-(800mhz)
DDR2 not indeed, but 4GB DDR2 (single) banks are quite hard to find :-(
I apologize for not doing any homework. I am tired after an all night 12 hour shift. I cannot read anymore specs. I will warn you that server memory usually denotes ECC memory. ECC typically goes into server motherboards. ECC basically means that the RAM has an extra bit that plugs the hole, if you will, in the event that the RAM hits a bad bit. It does this to avoid lockups and random restarts that would really spell doom for a server... they dontlike random restarts or lockups, especially when your corporation depends on the server. This is why, typically, server mother boards require atleast 2 DIMMS occupied to POST.
The price of ECC memory greatly varies by season it seems. IN truth it depends on ddr, ddr2, ddr3, and amount of gigs per stick.
Most desktop motherboards do not support ECC. I would just make sure that the ram you want from the server board is not ECC. If it is not ECC, then it will typically fit the desktop mobo as it is the same as plan ole RAM.
Of course, all motherboards have specs that they can support. Not all motherboards can handle a 4 gig stick of ram in the dimm. It simply wouldnt post. You would really have to check your mobo specs for that info.
Thanks for the info DuelKore. The mamnual of my mainbord tells me it can hold "4x DIMM, max 16Gb, DDR2 1066*/800/677Mhz, ECC/non-ECC, un-buffered memory", so I guess I can bid on this server memory banks and drop them on my mainboard...
It will fit, as full-sized DDR2 memory will fit in any full-sized DDR2 slot. It sounds like your motherboard will support it, but it's still a crapshoot; sometimes motherboards can be very finicky as to what they will accept. I'd say it's worth the few euros that this is going for to try out, as DDR2 RAM is very expensive new right now.
That ram will probably be very slow.
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Just use 2gig sticks, what do you need 16 gigs of RAM for?
Plus, the server RAM is most likely going to be ECC RAM, which means you're going to lose a ton of performance.
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Yes. This memory stick will fit in your MOBO.
ECC memory is notoriously a little slower than non-ECC, because it checks each bit for errors. non-ECC just lets whatever comes out, come out.
The flip side though is you will have less system-freezes and crashes with ECC.
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Why the hell do you need 16GB of memory? No game that will be out for the forseeable future will require more than 4GB in a system, and I can't possibly imagine doing anything else with an everyday desktop computer that would really make use of more either. Even having 8GB is basically redundant and useless at this point, but 16GB? Three quarters of that RAM will literally just sit there and twiddle its thumbs all day, and do nothing for you.
Maybe hes doing video editing or 3d modelling o.o
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I was thinking really serious video editing too, but... 16 gigs? I guess whatever floats your boat
Yes, videoediting is one of the things I'm doing here. I have about 25 hours of raw movies of our son on my system that I need to edit and it's going so darn slow right now...
I'm also scripting PHP/MySQL locally (making my own blogging service) and the data hold there is large at times as well...
Anyhow, I asked the seller, and it's ECC registered memory and that's the only thing my mobo can't use :'(
Bah, go figure. That price had to be too good to be true, right?
Unfortunately, even looking here in the US, most 4GB DDR2 DIMMs that I can still find for sale anywhere are also registered ECC RAM, at least in terms of kits. What about knocking it down to 8? If you already use 2GB DIMMs, then just maxing out your system on 2GB DIMMs would at least get you somewhere.
I'm following other 2x4Gb DIMM's on ebay now. Lets see if I can get those for a decent price. At least the ones I follow now are 'normal' DIMM's...
About upping from 4Gb to 8Gb... Not too sure if that'll make a big difference. I edited a movie this week (about 17Gb raw source AVI files) and it took forever to make some changes to the movie (HDD out full because of swapping). I bet if I have 16Gb (or even 12Gb, adding only 8Gb to my current 4Gb) will make a bigger difference *just guessing / hoping*
Unless you are using 64-bit editing software on a 64-bit operating system, nope, it won't help at all.
I would think that video editing software would have been the absolute first thing to make the switch over the 64-bit executables. 64-bit computing was becoming mainstream around the time HD video was beginning to (give or take), so it would have been good timing in both cases.
I certainly can't image any kind of HD video editing with 32-bit memory address limits.