Yup, Really glad I have thus far avoided purchasing anything from PSN and XBL like the plague. I can just change my account password and move on.
For me the main downside is half my PS3 games wont work without PSN (which is moronic IMHO, they should have redundancy for net connection being down) Oh well back to steam.
Yup, Really glad I have thus far avoided purchasing anything from PSN and XBL like the plague. I can just change my account password and move on.
XBL is much safer. PSN has always been weak, it was only a matter of time.
LOL its statements like that which worry me, its also attitudes like that which make organisations a big fat target for hackers.
TBH I trust neither of them with my CC info, if they want my money they can deal with a third party like paypal which is the only place on the net I am ever putting my CC Info. While I am not saying PayPal is bulletproof it is at least the only place my CC info is stored on the net which is a lot easier to manage.
I apologise bit saying anything by Microsoft is "Much Safer" is kind of laughable, especially to anyone like me who manages MS enterprise solutions.
Yup, Really glad I have thus far avoided purchasing anything from PSN and XBL like the plague. I can just change my account password and move on.
XBL is much safer. PSN has always been weak, it was only a matter of time.
LOL its statements like that which worry me, its also attitudes like that which make organisations a big fat target for hackers.
TBH I trust neither of them with my CC info, if they want my money they can deal with a third party like paypal which is the only place on the net I am ever putting my CC Info. While I am not saying PayPal is bulletproof it is at least the only place my CC info is stored on the net which is a lot easier to manage.
I apologise bit saying anything by Microsoft is "Much Safer" is kind of laughable, especially to anyone like me who manages MS enterprise solutions.
I get what you're saying and at least you can get point cards for Microsoft from a brick and mortar store. While I understand that M$ security in their OS front is nothing to brag about, how many instances of them having customers' CC info stolen?
On top of XBL they also do online transactions for Windows and Office and I'm sure other things and it seems they have a good hold on the information.
I wouldn't say that it's laughable considering that Sony just lost ALL the information they had and I am not aware of any instance of such a breach by MS.
Yup, Really glad I have thus far avoided purchasing anything from PSN and XBL like the plague. I can just change my account password and move on.
XBL is much safer. PSN has always been weak, it was only a matter of time.
LOL its statements like that which worry me, its also attitudes like that which make organisations a big fat target for hackers.
TBH I trust neither of them with my CC info, if they want my money they can deal with a third party like paypal which is the only place on the net I am ever putting my CC Info. While I am not saying PayPal is bulletproof it is at least the only place my CC info is stored on the net which is a lot easier to manage.
I apologise bit saying anything by Microsoft is "Much Safer" is kind of laughable, especially to anyone like me who manages MS enterprise solutions.
It doesn't matter where you house your information online or locally on your PC, if someone wants it bad enough, they'll get it. Its not a question of if, its a question of when.
For example, Paypal has had data breaches before too. Nothing is infallible, some are just better prepared for disaster recovery and security breaches. Sony, obviously, wasn't.
Yup, Really glad I have thus far avoided purchasing anything from PSN and XBL like the plague. I can just change my account password and move on.
XBL is much safer. PSN has always been weak, it was only a matter of time.
LOL its statements like that which worry me, its also attitudes like that which make organisations a big fat target for hackers.
TBH I trust neither of them with my CC info, if they want my money they can deal with a third party like paypal which is the only place on the net I am ever putting my CC Info. While I am not saying PayPal is bulletproof it is at least the only place my CC info is stored on the net which is a lot easier to manage.
I apologise bit saying anything by Microsoft is "Much Safer" is kind of laughable, especially to anyone like me who manages MS enterprise solutions.
I get what you're saying and at least you can get point cards for Microsoft from a brick and mortar store. While I understand that M$ security in their OS front is nothing to brag about, how many instances of them having customers' CC info stolen?
On top of XBL they also do online transactions for Windows and Office and I'm sure other things and it seems they have a good hold on the information.
I wouldn't say that it's laughable considering that Sony just lost ALL the information they had and I am not aware of any instance of such a breach by MS.
Yup, Really glad I have thus far avoided purchasing anything from PSN and XBL like the plague. I can just change my account password and move on.
XBL is much safer. PSN has always been weak, it was only a matter of time.
LOL its statements like that which worry me, its also attitudes like that which make organisations a big fat target for hackers.
TBH I trust neither of them with my CC info, if they want my money they can deal with a third party like paypal which is the only place on the net I am ever putting my CC Info. While I am not saying PayPal is bulletproof it is at least the only place my CC info is stored on the net which is a lot easier to manage.
I apologise bit saying anything by Microsoft is "Much Safer" is kind of laughable, especially to anyone like me who manages MS enterprise solutions.
I get what you're saying and at least you can get point cards for Microsoft from a brick and mortar store. While I understand that M$ security in their OS front is nothing to brag about, how many instances of them having customers' CC info stolen?
On top of XBL they also do online transactions for Windows and Office and I'm sure other things and it seems they have a good hold on the information.
I wouldn't say that it's laughable considering that Sony just lost ALL the information they had and I am not aware of any instance of such a breach by MS.
Yup, those are hacked accounts, not sure if it was actually hacked or if they just socially engineered the weaklings but it wasn't full data theft, just unauthorized access to some people's accounts.
Yup, Really glad I have thus far avoided purchasing anything from PSN and XBL like the plague. I can just change my account password and move on.
XBL is much safer. PSN has always been weak, it was only a matter of time.
LOL its statements like that which worry me, its also attitudes like that which make organisations a big fat target for hackers.
TBH I trust neither of them with my CC info, if they want my money they can deal with a third party like paypal which is the only place on the net I am ever putting my CC Info. While I am not saying PayPal is bulletproof it is at least the only place my CC info is stored on the net which is a lot easier to manage.
I apologise bit saying anything by Microsoft is "Much Safer" is kind of laughable, especially to anyone like me who manages MS enterprise solutions.
I get what you're saying and at least you can get point cards for Microsoft from a brick and mortar store. While I understand that M$ security in their OS front is nothing to brag about, how many instances of them having customers' CC info stolen?
On top of XBL they also do online transactions for Windows and Office and I'm sure other things and it seems they have a good hold on the information.
I wouldn't say that it's laughable considering that Sony just lost ALL the information they had and I am not aware of any instance of such a breach by MS.
Yup, those are hacked accounts, not sure if it was actually hacked or if they just socially engineered the weaklings but it wasn't full data theft, just unauthorized access to some people's accounts.
Yup, Really glad I have thus far avoided purchasing anything from PSN and XBL like the plague. I can just change my account password and move on.
XBL is much safer. PSN has always been weak, it was only a matter of time.
LOL its statements like that which worry me, its also attitudes like that which make organisations a big fat target for hackers.
TBH I trust neither of them with my CC info, if they want my money they can deal with a third party like paypal which is the only place on the net I am ever putting my CC Info. While I am not saying PayPal is bulletproof it is at least the only place my CC info is stored on the net which is a lot easier to manage.
I apologise bit saying anything by Microsoft is "Much Safer" is kind of laughable, especially to anyone like me who manages MS enterprise solutions.
I get what you're saying and at least you can get point cards for Microsoft from a brick and mortar store. While I understand that M$ security in their OS front is nothing to brag about, how many instances of them having customers' CC info stolen?
On top of XBL they also do online transactions for Windows and Office and I'm sure other things and it seems they have a good hold on the information.
I wouldn't say that it's laughable considering that Sony just lost ALL the information they had and I am not aware of any instance of such a breach by MS.
Yup, those are hacked accounts, not sure if it was actually hacked or if they just socially engineered the weaklings but it wasn't full data theft, just unauthorized access to some people's accounts.
Right, because their CC# was linked to their account and the info was only usable for points but it seems the hackers did not actually get the CC# just the ability to use it in the M$ store. So the Xbox hack, while still a security flaw was no where near as catastrophic as losing everyone's CC#.
Yup, Really glad I have thus far avoided purchasing anything from PSN and XBL like the plague. I can just change my account password and move on.
XBL is much safer. PSN has always been weak, it was only a matter of time.
LOL its statements like that which worry me, its also attitudes like that which make organisations a big fat target for hackers.
TBH I trust neither of them with my CC info, if they want my money they can deal with a third party like paypal which is the only place on the net I am ever putting my CC Info. While I am not saying PayPal is bulletproof it is at least the only place my CC info is stored on the net which is a lot easier to manage.
I apologise bit saying anything by Microsoft is "Much Safer" is kind of laughable, especially to anyone like me who manages MS enterprise solutions.
I get what you're saying and at least you can get point cards for Microsoft from a brick and mortar store. While I understand that M$ security in their OS front is nothing to brag about, how many instances of them having customers' CC info stolen?
On top of XBL they also do online transactions for Windows and Office and I'm sure other things and it seems they have a good hold on the information.
I wouldn't say that it's laughable considering that Sony just lost ALL the information they had and I am not aware of any instance of such a breach by MS.
Yup, those are hacked accounts, not sure if it was actually hacked or if they just socially engineered the weaklings but it wasn't full data theft, just unauthorized access to some people's accounts.
Right, because their CC# was linked to their account and the info was only usable for points but it seems the hackers did not actually get the CC# just the ability to use it in the M$ store. So the Xbox hack, while still a security flaw was no where near as catastrophic as losing everyone's CC#.
so the difference between stealing someone's CC for 500 bucks of merchandise or stealing it for 500 bucks worth of microsoft points is what? People still lost their money or were cost undue problems because of it. There is no difference. My point is that this can happen to any company, not just Sony. Granted i dont like the way they handled it....but sony was never awesome in the PR department. 500 bucks is 500 bucks no matter how you slice or spend it.
Yup, Really glad I have thus far avoided purchasing anything from PSN and XBL like the plague. I can just change my account password and move on.
XBL is much safer. PSN has always been weak, it was only a matter of time.
LOL its statements like that which worry me, its also attitudes like that which make organisations a big fat target for hackers.
TBH I trust neither of them with my CC info, if they want my money they can deal with a third party like paypal which is the only place on the net I am ever putting my CC Info. While I am not saying PayPal is bulletproof it is at least the only place my CC info is stored on the net which is a lot easier to manage.
I apologise bit saying anything by Microsoft is "Much Safer" is kind of laughable, especially to anyone like me who manages MS enterprise solutions.
I get what you're saying and at least you can get point cards for Microsoft from a brick and mortar store. While I understand that M$ security in their OS front is nothing to brag about, how many instances of them having customers' CC info stolen?
On top of XBL they also do online transactions for Windows and Office and I'm sure other things and it seems they have a good hold on the information.
I wouldn't say that it's laughable considering that Sony just lost ALL the information they had and I am not aware of any instance of such a breach by MS.
Yup, those are hacked accounts, not sure if it was actually hacked or if they just socially engineered the weaklings but it wasn't full data theft, just unauthorized access to some people's accounts.
Right, because their CC# was linked to their account and the info was only usable for points but it seems the hackers did not actually get the CC# just the ability to use it in the M$ store. So the Xbox hack, while still a security flaw was no where near as catastrophic as losing everyone's CC#.
so the difference between stealing someone's CC for 500 bucks of merchandise or stealing it for 500 bucks worth of microsoft points is what? People still lost their money or were cost undue problems because of it. There is no difference. My point is that this can happen to any company, not just Sony. Granted i dont like the way they handled it....but sony was never awesome in the PR department. 500 bucks is 500 bucks no matter how you slice or spend it.
The difference is with the Xbox hack the CC could only be used at the M$ store making it slightly easier to rectify and it was a less widespread hack. I agree, both are unacceptable, however, the Sony problem is MUCH worse.
Yup, Really glad I have thus far avoided purchasing anything from PSN and XBL like the plague. I can just change my account password and move on.
XBL is much safer. PSN has always been weak, it was only a matter of time.
LOL its statements like that which worry me, its also attitudes like that which make organisations a big fat target for hackers.
TBH I trust neither of them with my CC info, if they want my money they can deal with a third party like paypal which is the only place on the net I am ever putting my CC Info. While I am not saying PayPal is bulletproof it is at least the only place my CC info is stored on the net which is a lot easier to manage.
I apologise bit saying anything by Microsoft is "Much Safer" is kind of laughable, especially to anyone like me who manages MS enterprise solutions.
I get what you're saying and at least you can get point cards for Microsoft from a brick and mortar store. While I understand that M$ security in their OS front is nothing to brag about, how many instances of them having customers' CC info stolen?
On top of XBL they also do online transactions for Windows and Office and I'm sure other things and it seems they have a good hold on the information.
I wouldn't say that it's laughable considering that Sony just lost ALL the information they had and I am not aware of any instance of such a breach by MS.
There has been several breaches of MS security over the years, you just need to look harder.
No one is infalible & naturally security starts with your desktop/laptop setup being secured (people doing transactions from mobile Phones & tablets have a whole other set of security issue to worry about) however minimising exposure is standard risk management. That means only using your sensitive info on trusted computers that are secured and sweeped properly and using CC/banking info as little as possible instead using services like paypal and redeemable cards where possible.
Data breaches happen all the time, the big issue is wether or not companies and financial institutions actually report them so users have a chance to protect themselves. Its a bit like OS vulnerabilities and companies like MS keeping things quiet and dragging their heels on fixes or doing stealth fixes like Apple when if they warned the users these things existed a lot of them could avoid exposure until a fix is in place.
Yup the PS3 is a far better machine than the 360 but, IMO, the 360 has a better games catalogue, a better dashboard and a better controller. Oh and XBL didn't get crippled for over a week...
It actually makes me sad, I bought the PS3 on launch hoping that all the RPGs would continue like the PS2 days...
Yup, Really glad I have thus far avoided purchasing anything from PSN and XBL like the plague. I can just change my account password and move on.
XBL is much safer. PSN has always been weak, it was only a matter of time.
LOL its statements like that which worry me, its also attitudes like that which make organisations a big fat target for hackers.
TBH I trust neither of them with my CC info, if they want my money they can deal with a third party like paypal which is the only place on the net I am ever putting my CC Info. While I am not saying PayPal is bulletproof it is at least the only place my CC info is stored on the net which is a lot easier to manage.
I apologise bit saying anything by Microsoft is "Much Safer" is kind of laughable, especially to anyone like me who manages MS enterprise solutions.
I get what you're saying and at least you can get point cards for Microsoft from a brick and mortar store. While I understand that M$ security in their OS front is nothing to brag about, how many instances of them having customers' CC info stolen?
On top of XBL they also do online transactions for Windows and Office and I'm sure other things and it seems they have a good hold on the information.
I wouldn't say that it's laughable considering that Sony just lost ALL the information they had and I am not aware of any instance of such a breach by MS.
There has been several breaches of MS security over the years, you just need to look harder.
No one is infalible & naturally security starts with your desktop/laptop setup being secured (people doing transactions from mobile Phones & tablets have a whole other set of security issue to worry about) however minimising exposure is standard risk management. That means only using your sensitive info on trusted computers that are secured and sweeped properly and using CC/banking info as little as possible instead using services like paypal and redeemable cards where possible.
Data breaches happen all the time, the big issue is wether or not companies and financial institutions actually report them so users have a chance to protect themselves. Its a bit like OS vulnerabilities and companies like MS keeping things quiet and dragging their heels on fixes or doing stealth fixes like Apple when if they warned the users these things existed a lot of them could avoid exposure until a fix is in place.
All I've been saying is there's been nothing this serious and nothing that actually involved unauthorized CC# access. Not that M$ is infallable.
Ive actually been secretly curious about what the DOD, Several universities and quite a few companies have been doing with the PS3 super computers they built since Sony blocked Linux and third party apps from running on them yet I know they are all still successfully using the arrays they built. I assume they either didnt upgrade any of them or that they are/have been using hacks to unlock them and keep them that way.
As PS3's in their arrays fail (which does happen) they have to be replaced.... which means they have to somehow get a new off the shelf PS3 and get linux onto it.......
Ive actually been secretly curious about what the DOD, Several universities and quite a few companies have been doing with the PS3 super computers they built since Sony blocked Linux and third party apps from running on them yet I know they are all still successfully using the arrays they built. I assume they either didnt upgrade any of them or that they are/have been using hacks to unlock them and keep them that way.
As PS3's in their arrays fail (which does happen) they have to be replaced.... which means they have to somehow get a new off the shelf PS3 and get linux onto it.......
Well, I know an article I read said the Air Force is using the old fat models so they can have other OS, I'm not sure what they'll do when they break. You would think that with 1,760 units running together Sony would be inclined to work a deal with them to keep them with other OS, that's a decent amount of income there.
I am not a part of Anon but from what I've read it seems the operate on principle.
Blocking people from using hacked hardware/pirated software etc. on the network is reasonable.
Suing people for hacking the hardware for homebrew/other OS purposes....is quite dirty. Sony has basically said that you cannot tamper with a piece of equipment you own even if you have no intention of piracy or cheating and even if you stay of their network. There's a good bit wrong with that. Edit: and if IIRC Anon is super pissed that Sony filed for the information for all the people who VIEWED the youtube video that GeoHotz put up. Really, now watching youtube is ground for a summons!? If Sony had their way, it would be.
I am not a part of Anon but from what I've read it seems the operate on principle.
Blocking people from using hacked hardware/pirated software etc. on the network is reasonable.
Suing people for hacking the hardware for homebrew/other OS purposes....is quite dirty. Sony has basically said that you cannot tamper with a piece of equipment you own even if you have no intention of piracy or cheating and even if you stay of their network. There's a good bit wrong with that. Edit: and if IIRC Anon is super pissed that Sony filed for the information for all the people who VIEWED the youtube video that GeoHotz put up. Really, now watching youtube is ground for a summons!? If Sony had their way, it would be.
Unless you bought games over xbox live, and then got banned for having a mod...then you lose your access to the digital property you purchased
Well, I know an article I read said the Air Force is using the old fat models so they can have other OS, I'm not sure what they'll do when they break. You would think that with 1,760 units running together Sony would be inclined to work a deal with them to keep them with other OS, that's a decent amount of income there.
Well Yes & No. The sticking point is Sony Made the Cell Processors and board technologies themselves available for licenced comercial application. Thing is its the commercial side of things where Sony expected to get back a lot of the R&D cost of developing the processor and therefore like almost everything made for comercial ventures (I am looking at you Microsoft) they threw in a big price increase for the technology.
Of course the various boffins interested in the Cell processing cabapilities quickly realised it was feasible & vastly cheaper to just buy up PS3's and link them together over the handy built in LAN cables and run Linux to make them work co-operatively (which is nothing new in computing since lots of more modern super computers are just arrays of PC's networked with specialised software setups to allow combined processing).
Perhaps the should have taken these projects as a sign they should either lower the price of the commercial technology OR Improved it to a point where the increased price was also reflected in increased benefit.
Surely if some Internet hackers can Crack the PS3 wide open in their spare time the DOD or a computer science department somewhere that has actual funding to spend on it can do so
Ive actually been secretly curious about what the DOD, Several universities and quite a few companies have been doing with the PS3 super computers they built since Sony blocked Linux and third party apps from running on them yet I know they are all still successfully using the arrays they built. I assume they either didnt upgrade any of them or that they are/have been using hacks to unlock them and keep them that way.
As PS3's in their arrays fail (which does happen) they have to be replaced.... which means they have to somehow get a new off the shelf PS3 and get linux onto it.......
Well, I know an article I read said the Air Force is using the old fat models so they can have other OS, I'm not sure what they'll do when they break. You would think that with 1,760 units running together Sony would be inclined to work a deal with them to keep them with other OS, that's a decent amount of income there.
Well Yes & No. The sticking point is Sony Made the Cell Processors and board technologies themselves available for licenced comercial application. Thing is its the commercial side of things where Sony expected to get back a lot of the R&D cost of developing the processor and therefore like almost everything made for comercial ventures (I am looking at you Microsoft) they threw in a big price increase for the technology.
Of course the various boffins interested in the Cell processing cabapilities quickly realised it was feasible & vastly cheaper to just buy up PS3's and link them together over the handy built in LAN cables and run Linux to make them work co-operatively (which is nothing new in computing since lots of more modern super computers are just arrays of PC's networked with specialised software setups to allow combined processing).
Perhaps the should have taken these projects as a sign they should either lower the price of the commercial technology OR Improved it to a point where the increased price was also reflected in increased benefit.
Surely if some Internet hackers can Crack the PS3 wide open in their spare time the DOD or a computer science department somewhere that has actual funding to spend on it can do so
I just got chills at the thought of Sony vs. DoD for the DoD hacking the PS3 to run another OS. Dear lord, the battle would never end!
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On top of that Hulu Plus has given me a weeks worth of credit, doubt I'll see one from netflix, but at least its something.
Yup, Really glad I have thus far avoided purchasing anything from PSN and XBL like the plague. I can just change my account password and move on.
For me the main downside is half my PS3 games wont work without PSN (which is moronic IMHO, they should have redundancy for net connection being down) Oh well back to steam.
XBL is much safer. PSN has always been weak, it was only a matter of time.
one thing i know is... sony got owned.. even they know what hell happens, so they blame hackers lol
1week and no fix .... more than this they are lost xD
Maybe they've should've been nicer to GeoHotz...lol
LOL its statements like that which worry me, its also attitudes like that which make organisations a big fat target for hackers.
TBH I trust neither of them with my CC info, if they want my money they can deal with a third party like paypal which is the only place on the net I am ever putting my CC Info. While I am not saying PayPal is bulletproof it is at least the only place my CC info is stored on the net which is a lot easier to manage.
I apologise bit saying anything by Microsoft is "Much Safer" is kind of laughable, especially to anyone like me who manages MS enterprise solutions.
I get what you're saying and at least you can get point cards for Microsoft from a brick and mortar store. While I understand that M$ security in their OS front is nothing to brag about, how many instances of them having customers' CC info stolen?
On top of XBL they also do online transactions for Windows and Office and I'm sure other things and it seems they have a good hold on the information.
I wouldn't say that it's laughable considering that Sony just lost ALL the information they had and I am not aware of any instance of such a breach by MS.
It doesn't matter where you house your information online or locally on your PC, if someone wants it bad enough, they'll get it. Its not a question of if, its a question of when.
For example, Paypal has had data breaches before too. Nothing is infallible, some are just better prepared for disaster recovery and security breaches. Sony, obviously, wasn't.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/xbox-live-hacked-accounts-stolen/131
Yup, those are hacked accounts, not sure if it was actually hacked or if they just socially engineered the weaklings but it wasn't full data theft, just unauthorized access to some people's accounts.
which lead to people get charged for points and such they never purchased http://playsquad.commongate.com/post/Xbox_Live_hacked_accounts_stolen/
Right, because their CC# was linked to their account and the info was only usable for points but it seems the hackers did not actually get the CC# just the ability to use it in the M$ store. So the Xbox hack, while still a security flaw was no where near as catastrophic as losing everyone's CC#.
so the difference between stealing someone's CC for 500 bucks of merchandise or stealing it for 500 bucks worth of microsoft points is what? People still lost their money or were cost undue problems because of it. There is no difference. My point is that this can happen to any company, not just Sony. Granted i dont like the way they handled it....but sony was never awesome in the PR department. 500 bucks is 500 bucks no matter how you slice or spend it.
The difference is with the Xbox hack the CC could only be used at the M$ store making it slightly easier to rectify and it was a less widespread hack. I agree, both are unacceptable, however, the Sony problem is MUCH worse.
There has been several breaches of MS security over the years, you just need to look harder.
No one is infalible & naturally security starts with your desktop/laptop setup being secured (people doing transactions from mobile Phones & tablets have a whole other set of security issue to worry about) however minimising exposure is standard risk management. That means only using your sensitive info on trusted computers that are secured and sweeped properly and using CC/banking info as little as possible instead using services like paypal and redeemable cards where possible.
Data breaches happen all the time, the big issue is wether or not companies and financial institutions actually report them so users have a chance to protect themselves. Its a bit like OS vulnerabilities and companies like MS keeping things quiet and dragging their heels on fixes or doing stealth fixes like Apple when if they warned the users these things existed a lot of them could avoid exposure until a fix is in place.
its all the emo 360 nerds, they hired 4 chan to dos attack psn.
seriously get over yourselves 360 fanboys, i have a 360 and a ps3, the ps3 is just the superior machine in all respects.
Yup the PS3 is a far better machine than the 360 but, IMO, the 360 has a better games catalogue, a better dashboard and a better controller. Oh and XBL didn't get crippled for over a week...
It actually makes me sad, I bought the PS3 on launch hoping that all the RPGs would continue like the PS2 days...
All I've been saying is there's been nothing this serious and nothing that actually involved unauthorized CC# access. Not that M$ is infallable.
Ive actually been secretly curious about what the DOD, Several universities and quite a few companies have been doing with the PS3 super computers they built since Sony blocked Linux and third party apps from running on them yet I know they are all still successfully using the arrays they built. I assume they either didnt upgrade any of them or that they are/have been using hacks to unlock them and keep them that way.
As PS3's in their arrays fail (which does happen) they have to be replaced.... which means they have to somehow get a new off the shelf PS3 and get linux onto it.......
where was anon when MS banned millions of users in 2009 for having modded consoles?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13772_3-10395265-52.html
edit: added link and rephrased
Well, I know an article I read said the Air Force is using the old fat models so they can have other OS, I'm not sure what they'll do when they break. You would think that with 1,760 units running together Sony would be inclined to work a deal with them to keep them with other OS, that's a decent amount of income there.
I am not a part of Anon but from what I've read it seems the operate on principle.
Blocking people from using hacked hardware/pirated software etc. on the network is reasonable.
Suing people for hacking the hardware for homebrew/other OS purposes....is quite dirty. Sony has basically said that you cannot tamper with a piece of equipment you own even if you have no intention of piracy or cheating and even if you stay of their network. There's a good bit wrong with that. Edit: and if IIRC Anon is super pissed that Sony filed for the information for all the people who VIEWED the youtube video that GeoHotz put up. Really, now watching youtube is ground for a summons!? If Sony had their way, it would be.
Unless you bought games over xbox live, and then got banned for having a mod...then you lose your access to the digital property you purchased
Well Yes & No. The sticking point is Sony Made the Cell Processors and board technologies themselves available for licenced comercial application. Thing is its the commercial side of things where Sony expected to get back a lot of the R&D cost of developing the processor and therefore like almost everything made for comercial ventures (I am looking at you Microsoft) they threw in a big price increase for the technology.
Of course the various boffins interested in the Cell processing cabapilities quickly realised it was feasible & vastly cheaper to just buy up PS3's and link them together over the handy built in LAN cables and run Linux to make them work co-operatively (which is nothing new in computing since lots of more modern super computers are just arrays of PC's networked with specialised software setups to allow combined processing).
Perhaps the should have taken these projects as a sign they should either lower the price of the commercial technology OR Improved it to a point where the increased price was also reflected in increased benefit.
Surely if some Internet hackers can Crack the PS3 wide open in their spare time the DOD or a computer science department somewhere that has actual funding to spend on it can do so
I just got chills at the thought of Sony vs. DoD for the DoD hacking the PS3 to run another OS. Dear lord, the battle would never end!