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A requirement to use steam inorder to play a single player game???
Adamai
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ok ive been checking out a few games recently one of which dawn of war 2.. now ive come across a potentialy huge blunder.
the fact of the matter is you cannot install this single player offline game unless you do infact have an internet connection and steam account and installed on your pc..
so why is that..
what if people that dont have the interent want to continue their love for al things warhammer!! thay cant.. im getting a bit pissed off with how many games today require you to have an internet connection before you can actually play them. why should we have to have an internet conneciton to play a game thats not played over the internet???
and more importanly when will some one do something about it.
its anoying as hell, im sitting here scratching my head and in disbeleif that inorder to play this game i must go through steam to do so. it absolutely will not function unless im online with steam active, and to top it off it auto updates the game meaning you have to sit through a good hour of patching before you can run it..??? you cant bypass it or opt out of patching to play on your local machine in single player mode no no.. steam forces you to endure their shitty download speeds and wait for a patch you dont necessarily like in the first place..
its all abit wrong!!
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Well, it's wrong but I imagine they are tired of players stealing games so this is one way they have dreamed up to combat it.
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You only need to be online to activate it. After that you can play without a connection.
Steamworks is pretty BS, I mean, if I want a game on Steam, I'll freaking buy it off Steam.
Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling"
Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.
Some developers can't fathom that there are people who refuse to sign up for a gaming version of iTunes, and don't want their purchase history tracked and sold to whoever. Good news though: that steam lockout doesn't work. If you physically bought the game, there are custom installers available from third parties that can circumvent that BS program.
Got to love anti-piracy attempts that only end up encouraging people to pirate your game.
They also don't think about the odd implications. I have a buddy who was deployed and bought Fallout:NV from Amazon. The game required Steam to activate but you can't add programs to the network so I had to burn and mail (on a disc) a cracked exe just so he could play the game he bought to occupy his downtime downrange. Frickin' assinine if you ask me.
Rofl, tinfoil hat on a little too tight me thinks.
Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling"
Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.
Marketing. It's a real thing, look it up.
What do you think corporations do with libraries? They don't provide you with software features that keep a list of songs that you listen to, or games that you play for your own convenience.
I find that if you open steam games from you "games" folder, not your program list from the start menu, they dont have you go through steam to play them. I have several RTS games that I got from steam and so far it works for all of them.
Steam is the reason why I have nightmares about killer robots taking over the earth.
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. - Galileo Galilei
Almost every website you go to is passing some of your choices on to google-analytics.com. Well, if you don't block it.
Well what I find funny is when players try to justify priating games as some kind of moral crusade against the evil gaming corporation and their safeguards to pirates. Or even on stand on principle, or because of x and y...
In some cases there is legit reasons to pirate games, but most of the time it's just because people like free stuff...and I've pirated my share of stuff, so I'm guilty of it too. But don't give this other BS, just say what it is.
Once you've installed and activated it you can just make a direct icon to the game's exe in the install directory and bypass Steam altogether. I've done it with several games I actually purchased through Steam. You don't have to be online to play and you don't have to let it update either. I can't say that I agree with the new trend of online activation but I do find it to be a hell of a lot less annoying than always having to have the original disk in the drive to play a game.
It is a shame that game companies have to protect themselves from being robbed of their Intellectual Properties in this way but sadly it's the world we live in. Here's an idea... well, maybe more of a suggestion... deal with it or just don't play their games. No one is making you buy or play any of these games... it's your choice.
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A few game companies have lost my money because I do not want to use steam, and all of these systems do nothing to pirates and only hurt us the people who actually are paying for games.
"Onward to adventure".
Several retailers are discussing not carrying these games. It doesn't make sense for Best Buy to send you to a competitor (Steam) in order to play the game you just bought from them...
And avoiding using something because someone somewhere might see that you bought object x is pure paranoia.
Theres nothing stopping a game from not needing a disk AND not needing activation, just look at DoWDC.
Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling"
Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.
New vegas did this, it's the main reason I didn't buy it.
Even though I have a steam account with plenty of games, I refuse to support a game that has online DRM attached to the hard copy like that.
I really don't mind Steam DRM at all, I already have it installed anyway and its much better than the kinds of crap you'll get from tons of other developers.
By the same token, why would you go out of your way to sign up for something whose only purpose on this earth is to tell Developer X that Shooter Y is trending as the most popular title in the genre? That sort of thing only encourages other developers who want a piece of Developer X's success to continue to flood the market xerox copies of Shooter Y. Marketing trackers always have, and always will, only serve to maintain mediocrity.
First off, I love Steam. I find it to be a pretty amazing program. On the other hand though, this whole principle of required steam activation for games purchased from locations other than steam is stupid. If I want to activate a game on steam, then please let me put my game on steam, but if I dont want to then dont force me to.
I do get confused though when there are things like, you can buy GW on steam and it puts it in your steam games list, but when I buy GW from a brick and mortar, then I can not put this game in my steam account. Its obviously the same game though.
But back to the point, you should not be required to download steam just to play your game.
Please refrain from baiting other users into an argument, thanks!
Kroger's, a grocery store chain requires you to have a Kroger discount card in order to get the best shelf price of items in their store. They also use it to track purchases. I don't shop at Kroger's because they do track what I buy. Not what is bought most often but what I buy. That is why I am willing to pay a bit more at a store that does not directly track my purchases.
It's not paranoia. It's privacy. I used to like shopping at Kroger's. When they brought in those cards I immediately stopped shopping there.
I'm not trying to bait or anything, but if they do track your purchases what are they going to do with that information? I mean mainly its used for things like demographics. I worked at kroger for a period of time and used my Kroger card plenty and never got any sort of mail that was out of the ordinary from the time I started to after, and I still use that card. My parents get no mail from them or anyone remotely associated with them.
This is a FOR REALZ question.
Does steam pay or get paid to have game exclusively?
Do some games that cannot afford to advertise (see Magicka and the like) go from selling a couple thousand games to a couple hundred thousand games ++ because they used this system that was basically free advertisement?
People say they have had problems with connections and downtime and the like. I have plenty of friends on steam. None of them complain about it. All of them really enjoy steam. And gosh, some of them are REAL complainers in games about the game, so I know they'd be all over steam if it was bad like some of you people claim. I really wonder how many of you have actually played games on their system.
No problems playing GA, Civ5 (meh), DoW2, or any other exclusive Steam game. We must be part of a tiny minority who don't get problems. Lucky us <.<.
I made an addendum to my post but it's simple. They can track purchases in their store all they want. They can track what items are purchased at the same time. When they started tracking that I purchased those items they could go piss up a rope.
Several years after I stopped shopping there they sent a generic letter to me asking to shop at Kroger's. They also asked for my input on what would cause me to shop there. I replied telling them I used to buy from them. I also stated that until they got rid of their discount/tracking cards I wouldn't shop there again.
Albertson's got rid of their tracking cards shortly before Kroger's started theirs. I now shop at Albertson's.
ANOTHER edit. Having shopped there for several years before they introduced their 'discount' cards I was familiar with the prices of many items. The day they started requiring their cards I went in and checked the shelf prices for those items. I found on average that there were no discounts on any of those items when purchased with this so-called discount card. Right beside those prices in smaller type were prices averaging between 10% and 20% higher if you did not use their card.
There were no discounts. There were price hikes for those who didn't want their purchases tracked. That is why I no longer shop at Kroger's.
I've come full circle with steam, in the days of 56k modems, it was the devil and was spat upon on when the name was mentioned, ..now a few years later, with a better pc and a much faster internet connection, it an angel to me with nearly 200 games in my steam library all up to date and most bought below the $10 or $20 budget limit, I luv steam, if there’s a game that I want to play with my friends, I don't badger them to buy it, I just buy it for them,(these friends are local friend, not internet friends) when Global agenda came out on steam for $7.50au I just bought them all copies, we still play it today,( our agency is called MISFITZ) same went for red orchestra, Counterstrike, best value ever, I luv the steam specials, even if I pay $50 for a game pack and we play it only for two or three hours, I’ve got my money’s worth, cheaper than going to the movies for two hours.
Playing steam off line, yes of course you can play your games offline, Provided it’s an offline game, just go click Steam in the top left corner of the steam browser and click Go offline..
As for games requiring online registration, well I still had to do it for MechWarrior 2 and 3 in the day, far as I’m concerned people who are complaining about online rego, are the ones who want a hard disc version so they can give it there mates for free and let them put on a no-cd.exe or fixed exe so they don’t have to pay, I believe that little trick is called piracy, just like the wild west of old, there putting up barb wire and are closing in on the cattle rustlers,( like it or not it’s happening)
As for product tracking it’s been around a very very long time, true on a smaller scale done on paper, in ink by hand, how else do you think the retailer knew what to restock and what was going to be dead stock, same thing is still happening today, just on a much bigger scale, you knew it was always going to happen, you always knew time wouldn’t and couldn’t stand still, hell you never know maybe one day your grand kids will have Star Trek style replicators and Holo-decks and guess what, you most likely will need ID to use them.