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Hype only thing keeping WoW alive?

BuZeRBuZeR Member UncommonPosts: 77

Well firstly a bit of background on myself... Im a lvl 48 Orc Warrior on the Blackrock server, i know im not an 'uba' lvl 60 but i have around 8 days online time so far so i think i played it long enough to get a feel of the game, so this isn't just my first impressions of WoW.

Well i'll start from my first experiances of Wow...

When WoW was first released me and the guild im in started playing on the first day of release. The first 3 days were unplayable but we got an extra 3 free days added to our billing cycle so that wasn't to bad. Sortly after they fixed the lag by putting a player cap on each server and pretty much removing the char selection visuals. Small price to pay but we ended up having to wait 20 min to 2 hours to login on Blackrock, but i didn't really mind as i was loving the game.

We soon reached the mid 20's and started getting a taste of PvP in Astonfeild (sp?) wasn't that bad but was a bit to much Class ss Class PvP system - but it's still early so they might fix it yet... Well 2 months and 30 odd lvls later servers still crash daily, lags allot, queues are still there - was 1025ish today on Blackrock (around 2 hours to get in game). PvP is still unbalanced, but im not going to start the Pally bashing as im sure i would just be flogging a death horse on that subject.

But thats not that bad i guess, games still playable. Oh but wait thats not all!

Customer service is nill, waited 3 days for an in-game page when i was stuck as a ghost. Ended up correcting the problem with help from a few guildies and deleted my petition. Also had an issue that required assistance from the accounts staff and 8 days later still no res ponce, ended up giving up.
Also yesterday the whole Horde mainland had all its Mobs and NPC's depawn, took them 4 hours to reboot the server and fix it.

I think its mainly an issue because Blizzard have little if no experience in MMORPG's so it might take them a while to fix the current problems. But their still a far way away from knowing what their doing, like for example there was even a weapon proc called Whirlwind that was a bit overpowered when used by classes like Rogues, so blizzard decided to Nerf the Whirlwind proc so the weapons wouldn't be to good. But means Warriors also had the same ability as a class skill we ended up getting nerfed. Now our one and only true AoE skill can only hit a max of 4 monsters.

Not really a big issue but with that sort of mentality when 'fixing' things they all add up.

Okay I'll list just a few bugs that come to mind:

- When you log to char selection screen WoW crashes - yup, you get to re Queue!
- A fair few random crashes while in game - wait.... more Queues
- Mouse bug where your mouse stops working in game - yay you get to re log to fix it... and when you do that you crash! Then yup... you are turly lucky and get to Queue again while your party crys for 1 hour because they have no healer.
- Night elf rangers can use their racial in PvP and make their pet invulnerable.
- Ammence lagg that causes you to wait 10+ min to ress or search on the AuctionHouse or get Mail.
- If you try open anything in your inventory on the long 30 min corpse runs you stop animating. And you have to relog, and yes crash and queue.
- Mounts are bugged, your meant to dismount if hit more then 3 times but 70% of the time you can hit someone, snare them beat on them for a while and they stay mounted and they eventually get away.

I'm sure theres allot more but thats all i can think of at the moment. If you want to see them all goto the Tech help section of the forums, if their not down that is.

Don't get me wrong, WoW has the ability of being the best MMORPG ever but they have allot of work ahead of them. Not even AC2 was this buggy so long after release and that game flopped because of it. If it wasn't for all the hype around this game i think it would of done the same. But it cant run on hype for ever.

I know most of the people who reply to this will flame me and say im wrong and i should just quit and go play EQ2 or something. But i have been a long time fan of Blizzards games and sticking my head up my ass wont help them fix the problems with WoW. And yes, i know this is excellent at the lower levels but all the bugs and hours of queues end up taking their toll on most of the people who play WoW. Next time your talking to a high level person in-game ask them what they think of WoW and im betting most of them will say the same as me. We can only hope they do something soon.

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Buz, Level 44+ Orc Warrior
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  • HelldogHelldog Member Posts: 169

    the game is near perfect upto lvl60 imho (and hopefully that'll keep staying interesting with battlegrounds and new instances), theres just some big lag issues with their servers...

     

    i'd say look up some information about the game and play some more, there are no rangers in this game..... (ps is your server high or low pop? theres a reason that it has population count)

  • ValaraukValarauk Member Posts: 303

    Hype only thing keeping WoW alive?

    No

    Although I do agree with you that Paladin's are pretty grossly overpowered right now (half of the Alliance team on Dunemaul seems to be paladin).

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  • firemagicfiremagic Member Posts: 878

    A few servers are running like crap due to overly high population but the one I play on (Eredar) runs like a dream.

    The solution is to bite the bullet and move to another server. I know this is far from a perfect solution, and I do think Blizzard should allow everyone a one-time chance to move their characters, but right now that's your choice.

  • ValaraukValarauk Member Posts: 303


    Originally posted by firemagic
    A few servers are running like crap due to overly high population but the one I play on (Eredar) runs like a dream.The solution is to bite the bullet and move to another server. I know this is far from a perfect solution, and I do think Blizzard should allow everyone a one-time chance to move their characters, but right now that's your choice.

    This could very well be it, I play on Dunemaul and I've never crashed, waited in line or even lagged bad more than a few times. The login server has been down at unscheduled times before but that's about it.

    "Don't blame me, I voted for Badnarik."
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    Still waiting for my next mmorpg...
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  • BuZeRBuZeR Member UncommonPosts: 77


    Originally posted by Helldog
    the game is near perfect upto lvl60 imho (and hopefully that'll keep staying interesting with battlegrounds and new instances), theres just some big lag issues with their servers...

    i'd say look up some information about the game and play some more, there are no rangers in this game..... (ps is your server high or low pop? theres a reason that it has population count)

    Sorry, ment Hunters. Im sure you could of worked that out like everyone else did... Old habbits die hard.

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  • ParaTrooperParaTrooper Member Posts: 1,961

    I play on the Blackrock server as well and I know exactly what your on about. Most of the time though the server is fine but those 1000+ lines for the server is just ridiculous, although it does give me another hour+ browsing the forums before playing the game.

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  • diegofrgcdiegofrgc Member Posts: 451

    Hey paratrooper when are you going to play ::::01::?
    I want to see live action inside the game (WoW Cam) ::::28::

  • HelldogHelldog Member Posts: 169



    Originally posted by BuZeR



    Sorry, ment Hunters. Im sure you could of worked that out like everyone else did... Old habbits die hard.


    yeah I knew what u ment, I just think this game is already way ahead of some games over most stuff. Comparing to StarWars Galaxies (excluding the jedi flaw): it already has a way better storyline, way more balance, an actual guide while levelling up and quests that guide you to the monsters u should be killing and while doing that give u good rewards like armor and weapons that are O.K.

  • ParaTrooperParaTrooper Member Posts: 1,961



    Originally posted by diegofrgc

    Hey paratrooper when are you going to play ::::01::?
    I want to see live action inside the game (WoW Cam) ::::28::



    We acctually stopped using those cam's at the end of closed beta. The reason was that everyone who wanted to see it could acctually play it in open beta.

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  • sygmassygmas Member Posts: 949

    Yes, hype it is. If it were released in early 2004, it would have lived until now at least. But with all the extremely progressive MMOs coming out in 2005, and the fact that WoW is retroactive in both aesthetics and design, I highly doubt it will retain its subscriptions by the end of 2005.

    I'd also lik to mention I find it funny WoW has stability issues. For a game that takes up only 80MB of RAM (less than my web browser at times), and as visually ...outdated. It's interesting to note its exceptionally unstable. Lackluster graphics, low ram usage, and even tightened population caps, and it still lags, or crashes. Also you'd think with 'oh wow 500k people in beta' that it would have had all the bugs banged out of it? Nope.

    Know why? Cos they werent beta testing,m they were just freeloading. The majority of people who play WoW are BNET kiddies, or other soem such delinquints or young children. And then theres everyone else who fled in a mass exodus from their home MMOs in the hopes WoW was some sort of salvation. Guess what? It's not. You can say all you want now but in a few months you'll be re-evaluating whether you should be continuing your subscription to the game. Unless youre a rabid Warcraft fan then im sure it will keep you entertained.

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  • JodokaiJodokai Member Posts: 1,621

    I had the same feeling, and said the same thing about City of Heroes. You can actually observe it happening with a certain poster here *cough* Anofalye *cough*. When Anofalye first got here he (she?) said he just started playing CoH and was spouting off how it was the best game ever, nothing could be better yadda yadda, to whcih I responded, "Let's see if you still say that after a few months," Now go back and look at the more recent posts.

    I think this will be the same trend with WoW. It usually is with what I call the "Instant Gratification" games like CoH and WoW. Games that allow you to level fast, and easily and hand everything to you. IN the begining people flock to it. YOu feel powerful quickly. Trouble is, people cap out quickly too.

  • OudoksujaOudoksuja Member Posts: 106

    I personally will try out WoW when the Euro release comes out. Quite likely I wont stay long, but what I'm expecting a 2-3 months of fun playing the game with friends. What else do I need?

    Compared to EQ2, which I haven't played either, WoW does indeed seem quite a lot more appealing to me. I've seen EQ2 graphics and heard ramblings about the mechanics and design, and it just doesn't convince me.

  • sygmassygmas Member Posts: 949

    CoH isnt fast leveling at all, its a pretty hardcore grind, maybe not in raw time but youll never be motivated to endure it. I never got past lvl 15 in COH, just couldnt bear the monotony of it. Downtime is too prohibitive in that game.

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  • dexter25cadexter25ca Member Posts: 38



    Originally posted by sygmas

    Yes, hype it is. If it were released in early 2004, it would have lived until now at least. But with all the extremely progressive MMOs coming out in 2005, and the fact that WoW is retroactive in both aesthetics and design, I highly doubt it will retain its subscriptions by the end of 2005.
    I'd also lik to mention I find it funny WoW has stability issues. For a game that takes up only 80MB of RAM (less than my web browser at times), and as visually ...outdated. It's interesting to note its exceptionally unstable. Lackluster graphics, low ram usage, and even tightened population caps, and it still lags, or crashes. Also you'd think with 'oh wow 500k people in beta' that it would have had all the bugs banged out of it? Nope.
    Know why? Cos they werent beta testing,m they were just freeloading. The majority of people who play WoW are BNET kiddies, or other soem such delinquints or young children. And then theres everyone else who fled in a mass exodus from their home MMOs in the hopes WoW was some sort of salvation. Guess what? It's not. You can say all you want now but in a few months you'll be re-evaluating whether you should be continuing your subscription to the game. Unless youre a rabid Warcraft fan then im sure it will keep you entertained.
    Later.



    Few months from  now, we'll quote you for the true genius, insightful man you are. Thanks for pointing out how stupid we are to play that stupid unplayabled stupid dumbed down game.

  • sygmassygmas Member Posts: 949

    You're welcome.

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  • sqwigginssqwiggins Member Posts: 286



    Originally posted by sygmas

    CoH isnt fast leveling at all, its a pretty hardcore grind, maybe not in raw time but youll never be motivated to endure it. I never got past lvl 15 in COH, just couldnt bear the monotony of it. Downtime is too prohibitive in that game.
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    haha im uber  at least i got to 16 before i quit you newb :) by the way even though i dont rp i love your sig lol

    its good to know that if I ever need attention all I need to do is die

  • MacayleCharmMacayleCharm Member Posts: 2

    I made a list after I cried in my soup and deleted EQII.

    WoW is near perfect and nailed thier game IMO image.
    The game has soooooo many absolutly brilliant aspects the few itty bitty blips just don't matter. They don't want to lose money, of course they are working hard to fix things!  

    The lack of in game stress, i.e. death (no loss of exp) griefing has been eliminated and I don't have to PVP if I don't want to so go ahead and target me you uber high death level person I wont be your hors hors d'oeuvre.

    I love the obvious thought that Blizzard put into WoW. There are way to many things that are bang on in this game for it to be a fluke. We all know how many disapointing and crappy games are out there and the goal of those other developers wasn't "lets make the worst game possible and ruin our careers and reputations all in one fowl swoop". Its not hype, and if you don't like WoW thats ok... go play somthing else. There is a game for everyone. WoW is mine, and it seems to attrack players that I get along with and really enjoy grouping with. yay for me!

    MC

  • AnofalyeAnofalye Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,433



    Originally posted by Jodokai

    I had the same feeling, and said the same thing about City of Heroes. You can actually observe it happening with a certain poster here *cough* Anofalye *cough*. When Anofalye first got here he (she?) said he just started playing CoH and was spouting off how it was the best game ever, nothing could be better yadda yadda, to whcih I responded, "Let's see if you still say that after a few months," Now go back and look at the more recent posts.
    I think this will be the same trend with WoW. It usually is with what I call the "Instant Gratification" games like CoH and WoW. Games that allow you to level fast, and easily and hand everything to you. IN the begining people flock to it. YOu feel powerful quickly. Trouble is, people cap out quickly too.



    I am still saying CoH is the best MMORPG ever!  image

     

    They do make some mistakes, and hopefully will work around.  My PB is working hard.  image

     

    But I will be happy to see any must raid trash go down the shaft like WoW.

     

    With Wish been cancelled, it mean CoH have until D&D or TR to adapt!  image

     

    And for the player saying CoH is boring, I cancel WoW after 15 hours of playing, I find WoW to be beyond any real consideration and would not have post if nobody would not have name me in the first place.


    - "Solo is, will always be, the main market. A MMORPG that succeed with little or no solo appeal is doing great considering they are ignoring the main player base.''

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  • sifasifa Member Posts: 115

    WoW isnt great at all. Whats so fun about a game that all you do is solo quest/xp?? The graphics are so so at best  and down right horid at times. The community in WoW is the worst that ive seen in an mmorpg (played many by the way). Canceled my account after 9 days of play.... The thing i hate most about WoW is the soloing, it makes it impossible for a proper mature community to develop since the player rarely has to work with others to achieve common goals. Not paying 15 bucks a month to get bored to deaths in World of Solo Craft. Dammit, i freakin hate soloingimage.

     

  • AcaeusAcaeus Member Posts: 193

    not many ppl defending Wow here... Guess they are either busy playing the game or working.

    Ex EQ1 player here, over a month playing WoW now and having a blast. I'd say its getting better and better as I level.

  • sygmassygmas Member Posts: 949


    Originally posted by sqwiggins
    Originally posted by sygmas
    CoH isnt fast leveling at all, its a pretty hardcore grind, maybe not in raw time but youll never be motivated to endure it. I never got past lvl 15 in COH, just couldnt bear the monotony of it. Downtime is too prohibitive in that game.
    imagehaha im uber at least i got to 16 before i quit you newb :) by the way even though i dont rp i love your sig lolits good to know that if I ever need attention all I need to do is die

    Rofl.

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  • sygmassygmas Member Posts: 949


    Originally posted by Acaeus
    not many ppl defending Wow here... Guess they are either busy playing the game or working.
    Ex EQ1 player here, over a month playing WoW now and having a blast. I'd say its getting better and better as I level.

    Or busy complaining on their official boards. You don't really have to think up anything creative to WoW bash here. I could quote so many of their own players I'd make your head spin. Just wander over there and see for yourself.

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  • AcaeusAcaeus Member Posts: 193



    Originally posted by sygmas




    Originally posted by Acaeus
    not many ppl defending Wow here... Guess they are either busy playing the game or working.
    Ex EQ1 player here, over a month playing WoW now and having a blast. I'd say its getting better and better as I level.



    Or busy complaining on their official boards. You don't really have to think up anything creative to WoW bash here. I could quote so many of their own players I'd make your head spin. Just wander over there and see for yourself.

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    You saying WoW has as many whiners as any other MMORPG !?!?!

    If so, I agree. Other than some annoying scheduled servers downtime, I actually didn't experience any technical issue. Game runs solid, playing over a month now, having a blast.

  • JohnarkJohnark Member Posts: 901

    Again, any hardcore gamer, in which you seem to be, will not like WoW after a couple months.  WoW is for casual gamers, people that love the freedom of exploration, people that hate being punished for dying (experience debt), people that don't want complicated rules and all.

    Besides, the best selling games are always the more simpler ones.  And Blizzard has proven that with all their Awards and 600,000 sold copies of WoW. 

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  • AcaeusAcaeus Member Posts: 193



    Originally posted by Johnark

    Again, any hardcore gamer, in which you seem to be, will not like WoW after a couple months.  WoW is for casual gamers, people that love the freedom of exploration, people that hate being punished for dying (experience debt), people that don't want complicated rules and all.
    Besides, the best selling games are always the more simpler ones.  And Blizzard has proven that with all their Awards and 600,000 sold copies of WoW. 



    Couldn't agree more.

    Besides I hate when people start treating a game like something you have to be doctor to master, its just a freaking video game.

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