1.) Trion rep makes a poorly thought-out decision and posts about it on the forums.
2.) Forums erupt in a firestorm.
3.) Scott sails onto the forums and retracts much, if not all, of what the original staffer said.
4.) All-around backslaps and kudoes to Trion for listening to their playerbase.
Spare me. I don't care how much collective "experience" the Rift development team allegedly has. In the final analysis, they look and act like a disorganized pack of rank amateurs. Once a well-implemented AAA MMORPG is finally released, Rift will be buried so fast that it will be little more than a memory.
"Soloists and those who prefer small groups should never have to feel like they''re the ones getting the proverbial table scraps, as it were." - Scott Hartsman, Senior Producer, Everquest II "People love groups. Its a fallacy that people want to play solo all the time." - Scott Hartsman, Executive Producer, Rift
Why would you even pick Rift to RP in??? Its one of the least immersive RPG's I have ever played. Anyways this rule set would ruin RP'ing completely in a game for me. So I can see people getting upset.
Playing: PO, EVE Waiting for: WoD Favourite MMOs: VG, EVE, FE and DDO Any person who expresses rage and loathing for an MMO is preposterous. He or she is like a person who has put on full armor and attacked a hot fudge sundae.
I roleplay sometimes but this is a real non issue to me. Most roleplaying is done within the realm of a guild / party anyways. If I do not like someone I just pretend like they are not there. No big deal. This is how it was in every other game I played and it did not ruin my rp experience.
1.) Trion rep makes a poorly thought-out decision and posts about it on the forums.
2.) Forums erupt in a firestorm.
3.) Scott sails onto the forums and retracts much, if not all, of what the original staffer said.
4.) All-around backslaps and kudoes to Trion for listening to their playerbase.
Spare me. I don't care how much collective "experience" the Rift development team allegedly has. In the final analysis, they look and act like a disorganized pack of rank amateurs. Once a well-implemented AAA MMORPG is finally released, Rift will be buried so fast that it will be little more than a memory.
We've both been on these forums for a while, what game do you think is going to fit that criteria anytime in the next 10 years other than "maybe" Blizzards next MMO.
So, in ROLE PLAYING game you want Trion to restrict the name you select for your character(s)? I don't know about you, but I don't want anyone (especially Trion) to restrict how I role play and that includes my characters name.
I think its extremely sad that people will and are actually raging about naming polocies. Just to clear the confusion, If you are role playing how ever that goes with a friend or something and you see in the distance behind your friend a guy running around with a silly name like jocksock or something, it completely ruins your RP session and you have to log out or something?
If so then fk role playing, and if not then who fking cares what some one else names their toon?? dont play with em its as simple as that but flamming and raging about it in some forums that the devs never see is pointless and to me is actually stupid. Its some one elses name on some one elses toon how on earth does that affect how you play your toon?
1.) Trion rep makes a poorly thought-out decision and posts about it on the forums.
2.) Forums erupt in a firestorm.
3.) Scott sails onto the forums and retracts much, if not all, of what the original staffer said.
4.) All-around backslaps and kudoes to Trion for listening to their playerbase.
Spare me. I don't care how much collective "experience" the Rift development team allegedly has. In the final analysis, they look and act like a disorganized pack of rank amateurs. Once a well-implemented AAA MMORPG is finally released, Rift will be buried so fast that it will be little more than a memory.
We've both been on these forums for a while, what game do you think is going to fit that criteria anytime in the next 10 years other than "maybe" Blizzards next MMO.
From what I've seen, I think Guild Wars 2 and possibly Star Wars: The Old Republic stand a good chance of overshadowing Rift very quickly. For my money, Rift is a very shallow experience chock full of glaring shortcuts where the devs said "good enough" for the sake of expediency. Heck, I wound up re-subbing to WoW this week and it still has a deeper sense of immersion even after Ghostcrawler got finished with it. I've seen too many people who have said they bought Rift just as filler until something else comes along. That doesn't bode well for any hope of longevity to me.
I had honestly hoped Rift would be a worthy competitor to the Blizzard Behemoth, but Trion simply doesn't appear to know what they want the game to be, let alone where they're going with it. Your mileage may vary, but I find it hard to even login to Rift after a very short time.
"Soloists and those who prefer small groups should never have to feel like they''re the ones getting the proverbial table scraps, as it were." - Scott Hartsman, Senior Producer, Everquest II "People love groups. Its a fallacy that people want to play solo all the time." - Scott Hartsman, Executive Producer, Rift
Personally, I dont even see this as an RP issue. There have been times during my long MMO tenure (going back to 1999 or so) when Ive played mainly as a "power gamer", but I still would fly into a nerd rage seeing some jerkoff named "PwnZj00Mama!"
You dont need to be an RPer to want some immersion and want freedom from douchebags.
As for the idea that the names create some sort of natural filter, personally, I dont care. If "chocolatedouche" gets renamed "Bovar", Ill still figure out that Bovar is a jackass pretty quickly. Plus, Ive known folks who were actually good players, and decent, but picked moronic names b/c they thought it was funny (and then once got into the game regretted it) so a strict policy can actually protect people from themselves as well, like telling a friend he's had enough or taking away his keys after his 18th beer.
Allowing complete outrageous stupidity in naming really doesnt help *anyone* except the idiots who arent going to take the game seriously, and most of the time arent going to stick around.
At least at the extremes (full sentences, idiotic leet speak, contemporary references), I think pretty much everyone is in agreement, so Trion (and every other dev) should just use the 80/20 rule and at least be harsh in their enforcement of *that* aspect of the policy. I think even a chunk of RPers could ignore a Jacque Sparrow as long as they dont have to see a "Ir0x0rZN00BZ!"
Suprised no one has put a big spot light on this yet but... how exactly do the non-RPrs come onto a forum and complain about the strict nature of the naming and conduct policies on a roleplay server if they are not roleplayer themselves? If you do not want to deal with the rules and don't want no body tellin' yo how ya gonna name yo character DON'T ROLL ON AN RP SERVER! Seriously... it's like players that create characters on PvP servers and then go to the forums and complain they got ganked.... GET OFF THE SERVER! There is a very distinct and good reason that gaming companies, the ones that do and bless them for it, make different ruleset servers. Players should be able to see the rules, choose the one that is best for them, and then enjoy the 'enforcement of said rules'. Don't walk into a Boston pub and complain about the lack of Yankee's paraphernalia and don't roll on an RP server and cry that someone didn't like your "irtehpwnmasta" character name.
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This has become standard procedure for Trion:
1.) Trion rep makes a poorly thought-out decision and posts about it on the forums.
2.) Forums erupt in a firestorm.
3.) Scott sails onto the forums and retracts much, if not all, of what the original staffer said.
4.) All-around backslaps and kudoes to Trion for listening to their playerbase.
Spare me. I don't care how much collective "experience" the Rift development team allegedly has. In the final analysis, they look and act like a disorganized pack of rank amateurs. Once a well-implemented AAA MMORPG is finally released, Rift will be buried so fast that it will be little more than a memory.
"Soloists and those who prefer small groups should never have to feel like they''re the ones getting the proverbial table scraps, as it were." - Scott Hartsman, Senior Producer, Everquest II
"People love groups. Its a fallacy that people want to play solo all the time." - Scott Hartsman, Executive Producer, Rift
I love the "Yeah, like anybody role plays in a RPG anyways! Pfft!" responses.
Solid, guys. Solid.
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Why would you even pick Rift to RP in??? Its one of the least immersive RPG's I have ever played. Anyways this rule set would ruin RP'ing completely in a game for me. So I can see people getting upset.
Playing: PO, EVE
Waiting for: WoD
Favourite MMOs: VG, EVE, FE and DDO
Any person who expresses rage and loathing for an MMO is preposterous. He or she is like a person who has put on full armor and attacked a hot fudge sundae.
I've got respect for those who take RPing seriously but I don't really see this as a big issue.
Last time I checked the ignore button still worked fine.
I roleplay sometimes but this is a real non issue to me. Most roleplaying is done within the realm of a guild / party anyways. If I do not like someone I just pretend like they are not there. No big deal. This is how it was in every other game I played and it did not ruin my rp experience.
Looks like they are addressing the issue;
It does seem as someone has suggested, the GM's are being snowed under with reports on names that are subjectively not suitable.
http://forums.riftgame.com/showthread.php?183689-CS-Feedback-and-RP-Server-character-names-(or-A-visit-from-the-analogy-police)
We've both been on these forums for a while, what game do you think is going to fit that criteria anytime in the next 10 years other than "maybe" Blizzards next MMO.
So, in ROLE PLAYING game you want Trion to restrict the name you select for your character(s)? I don't know about you, but I don't want anyone (especially Trion) to restrict how I role play and that includes my characters name.
I think its extremely sad that people will and are actually raging about naming polocies. Just to clear the confusion, If you are role playing how ever that goes with a friend or something and you see in the distance behind your friend a guy running around with a silly name like jocksock or something, it completely ruins your RP session and you have to log out or something?
If so then fk role playing, and if not then who fking cares what some one else names their toon?? dont play with em its as simple as that but flamming and raging about it in some forums that the devs never see is pointless and to me is actually stupid. Its some one elses name on some one elses toon how on earth does that affect how you play your toon?
From what I've seen, I think Guild Wars 2 and possibly Star Wars: The Old Republic stand a good chance of overshadowing Rift very quickly. For my money, Rift is a very shallow experience chock full of glaring shortcuts where the devs said "good enough" for the sake of expediency. Heck, I wound up re-subbing to WoW this week and it still has a deeper sense of immersion even after Ghostcrawler got finished with it. I've seen too many people who have said they bought Rift just as filler until something else comes along. That doesn't bode well for any hope of longevity to me.
I had honestly hoped Rift would be a worthy competitor to the Blizzard Behemoth, but Trion simply doesn't appear to know what they want the game to be, let alone where they're going with it. Your mileage may vary, but I find it hard to even login to Rift after a very short time.
"Soloists and those who prefer small groups should never have to feel like they''re the ones getting the proverbial table scraps, as it were." - Scott Hartsman, Senior Producer, Everquest II
"People love groups. Its a fallacy that people want to play solo all the time." - Scott Hartsman, Executive Producer, Rift
Personally, I dont even see this as an RP issue. There have been times during my long MMO tenure (going back to 1999 or so) when Ive played mainly as a "power gamer", but I still would fly into a nerd rage seeing some jerkoff named "PwnZj00Mama!"
You dont need to be an RPer to want some immersion and want freedom from douchebags.
As for the idea that the names create some sort of natural filter, personally, I dont care. If "chocolatedouche" gets renamed "Bovar", Ill still figure out that Bovar is a jackass pretty quickly. Plus, Ive known folks who were actually good players, and decent, but picked moronic names b/c they thought it was funny (and then once got into the game regretted it) so a strict policy can actually protect people from themselves as well, like telling a friend he's had enough or taking away his keys after his 18th beer.
Allowing complete outrageous stupidity in naming really doesnt help *anyone* except the idiots who arent going to take the game seriously, and most of the time arent going to stick around.
At least at the extremes (full sentences, idiotic leet speak, contemporary references), I think pretty much everyone is in agreement, so Trion (and every other dev) should just use the 80/20 rule and at least be harsh in their enforcement of *that* aspect of the policy. I think even a chunk of RPers could ignore a Jacque Sparrow as long as they dont have to see a "Ir0x0rZN00BZ!"
Suprised no one has put a big spot light on this yet but... how exactly do the non-RPrs come onto a forum and complain about the strict nature of the naming and conduct policies on a roleplay server if they are not roleplayer themselves? If you do not want to deal with the rules and don't want no body tellin' yo how ya gonna name yo character DON'T ROLL ON AN RP SERVER! Seriously... it's like players that create characters on PvP servers and then go to the forums and complain they got ganked.... GET OFF THE SERVER! There is a very distinct and good reason that gaming companies, the ones that do and bless them for it, make different ruleset servers. Players should be able to see the rules, choose the one that is best for them, and then enjoy the 'enforcement of said rules'. Don't walk into a Boston pub and complain about the lack of Yankee's paraphernalia and don't roll on an RP server and cry that someone didn't like your "irtehpwnmasta" character name.