Realistically, I believe that the reason the next anticipated class wasn't unveiled was because they needed to fine tune the class. The mesmer was a reactive shutdown class in a lot of GW skills. In order for it to be ready, you'd have to have all the mechanics of skills prepared and finalized. This means the other classes should be done before this class is ready to be announced.
i didn't play a lot GW1 .. and i really don't know what so awesome about mesmer. someone can explain to me what so important with mesmer?
mesmers counteract other classes. they interrupt actions, lengthen cast times, cause people to take damage when they use skills, drain energy, etc. most of they damage they cause is due to their oppnent doing damage to themselves.
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i didn't play a lot GW1 .. and i really don't know what so awesome about mesmer. someone can explain to me what so important with mesmer?
Mesmers were really a huge SCREW YOU class. In GW1 GvG's, a single good mesmer can break the entire backline with domination spec and interrupts. It's one of those classes where player skill shows and really mattered if you wanted to be a good mesmer. As you can tell from the original post, mesmers fuck with your opponent's mind. The most important thing for playing a mesmer is your ability to read your opponents and react accordingly to it.
Just thinking about this made me miss the game, haha. Seriously, GW1 GvG was a huge chess battle back then, where tactics and strategies were only limited by your own team's skills.
Mesmers were really a huge SCREW YOU class. In GW1 GvG's, a single good mesmer can break the entire backline with domination spec and interrupts. It's one of those classes where player skill shows and really mattered if you wanted to be a good mesmer. As you can tell from the original post, mesmers fuck with your opponent's mind. The most important thing for playing a mesmer is your ability to read your opponents and react accordingly to it. Just thinking about this made me miss the game, haha. Seriously, GW1 GvG was a huge chess battle back then, where tactics and strategies were only limited by your own team's skills.
This definitely : mesmer were one of the most, if not the most, interesting class to play in pvp...
But I fear this time pvp will not be that intense and tactic, hence mesmer will not be what they use to be
My first hint is you won't have to choose 2 professions like before which will make pvp by far less strategic... but more accessible indeed.
It's just one step from the sublime to the ridiculous. C9 impatient awaiter
IF there's no mesmer I am not playing the game just to make a point. You don't fuck with your one and ONLY unique class that is iconic to the Guild Wars series. Can't imagine GvG without mesmers really would be soooo boring.
Originally posted by Grigor_Bron
Originally posted by NaturTalent
Originally posted by Foomerang
yknow, i would pledge allegiance to anet if they did not have a mesmer prof. it would amuse me to see the nerd rage from that.
If Anet did such a visios act, there would probably be a new terror network in the world. Nerds agianst hyping?
The Mesmer is no more of an "iconic" or unique profession than any others in the original Guild Wars.
Are you kidding me? Which one was unique to Guild Wars then? Elementalist? Nope. Necro? Nope. Ranger? Nope. Monk? Naaah. Warrior? Rofl.
Mesmer is the most unique class in Guild Wars 1. Not sure about Dervish and Paragon though They are also quite unique but we are not getting any of the Cantha and Elona professions for obvious lore reasons.
This is what is really silly about you Mesmerites. Can you not see that a Mesmer is just a Bard with its name changed? And what's more, they were not favored at all within the story of Guild Wars. No special attention was paid to that class whatsoever. No Mesmer even appeared on any of the cover art, for heaven's sake.
IF there's no mesmer I am not playing the game just to make a point. You don't fuck with your one and ONLY unique class that is iconic to the Guild Wars series. Can't imagine GvG without mesmers really would be soooo boring.
Originally posted by Grigor_Bron
Originally posted by NaturTalent
Originally posted by Foomerang
yknow, i would pledge allegiance to anet if they did not have a mesmer prof. it would amuse me to see the nerd rage from that.
If Anet did such a visios act, there would probably be a new terror network in the world. Nerds agianst hyping?
The Mesmer is no more of an "iconic" or unique profession than any others in the original Guild Wars.
Are you kidding me? Which one was unique to Guild Wars then? Elementalist? Nope. Necro? Nope. Ranger? Nope. Monk? Naaah. Warrior? Rofl.
Mesmer is the most unique class in Guild Wars 1. Not sure about Dervish and Paragon though They are also quite unique but we are not getting any of the Cantha and Elona professions for obvious lore reasons.
This is what is really silly about you Mesmerites. Can you not see that a Mesmer is just a Bard with its name changed? And what's more, they were not favored at all within the story of Guild Wars. No special attention was paid to that class whatsoever. No Mesmer even appeared on any of the cover art, for heaven's sake.
If I well remember the bard of everquest it was specifically a group buffer/debuffer kind of class (something better like a monk in GW, except the heal abilities of course), the mesmer was heavily focused on interruption and backfire kind of class : it was close to some Magic the Gathering kind of strategy to me, and I'd never seen that before playing it in GW actually.
It's just one step from the sublime to the ridiculous. C9 impatient awaiter
what's more, they were not favored at all within the story of Guild Wars. No special attention was paid to that class whatsoever. No Mesmer even appeared on any of the cover art, for heaven's sake.
not true
Gwen, whos been around since prophecies, was profiled as being a mesmer in GW story of Eye of the North
Of course the mesmer is unique. There have been a very few classes somewhat similar, but not the same, not even close, really. And they are nothing like bards. That is just ridiculous. Just insane.
And, yes, as Nadia pointed out, there has been special attention paid the mesmer, and it is very interesting from a lore perspective. Not to mention its use in the GW2 books.
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Well most likely the Mesmer will appear on the horizon before GW2 is launched, if not they will let so many of their fidel players down, which would be unwise both economically and when it comes to the reputation of the GW brand and ArenaNet.
I just hope they will blend in some of the aspects of the Ritualist, since I would love to see my character destroy enemies through the means of various spirits. Or maybe I will just have to wait for the first expansion or campaign to get that.
I agree the Mesmer is unique to GW it's just that from a graphical point of view a mage controlling spirits would be more spectacular, and I hope at some stage they will present to us a spell caster not taken from GW; does the lore support such a wish in any way?
A sylvari mesmer would be nice, blending with the trees and bushes manipulating the minds of the adversaries without them being able to realize what causes their mental distruction.
Originally posted by FTPMMO Well most likely the Mesmer will appear on the horizon before GW2 is launched, if not they will let so many of their fidel players down, which would be unwise both economically and when it comes to the reputation of the GW brand and ArenaNet. I just hope they will blend in some of the aspects of the Ritualist, since I would love to see my character destroy enemies through the means of various spirits. Or maybe I will just have to wait for the first expansion or campaign to get that. I agree the Mesmer is unique to GW it's just that from a graphical point of view a mage controlling spirits would be more spectacular, and I hope at some stage they will present to us a spell caster not taken from GW; does the lore support such a wish in any way? A sylvari mesmer would be nice, blending with the trees and bushes manipulating the minds of the adversaries without them being able to realize what causes their mental distruction.
As an aside, instead of fidel, you mean to say "loyal."
I, personally would rather wait until I can get my hands on a ritualist. I know there is some ritualist in the Guardian, but I want a good ritualist with the same kinds of improvements I am seeing with everything else. I love that class, and it is so unique in it's theme and implantation. Most pet classes work so differently, and they never have that level of versatility and utility. I don't want the mesmer to have very much rit in it. I know they will be changing a great deal, and I imagine I will like what they come up with, but I want my ritualist when we make it to Cantha. I'm sure they are having problems too, and who better to help?
For that matter, I'd love to see the dervish when we get to Elona. And I am sure Anet is taking those who think like us into account, and I am sure they will try to keep us happy.
I am not sure how the lore supports a new spellcasting cast, but as we saw with Utopia, they are more than willing to create new lands for us to visit, and there could be any number of new magic-users in those places. There is no reason to believe we've seen the half of what Tyria has to offer.
"Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true you know it, and they know it." Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007
Does the engineer mechanic not replace the ritualist one ? Thought with so much kind of turrets : firing turret, healing turret and so on, the engineer will feed this role...
I did not well know the ritualist mechanic anyway, but apparently it could work similarly, couldn't it ?
It's just one step from the sublime to the ridiculous. C9 impatient awaiter
It's not a shocker but I am glad. If it was not implemented in GW2 I would not buy it!! J/K. I would still buy it, it is only one class but it is the first class I played in GW1 and enjoyed how different it was to others. But I am glad
all 7 of the images of this style are confirmed professions(no such image was shown for the engineer AFAIK). the class was also seen briefly in the races of tyria trailer(before the naysayers chime in remeber that female charr in the same video turned out to be a thief after all).
How do yo uknow that his is not a ritualist that might look like a Mesmer ? The paper fan that she is holding did not come into play until the Factions campaign was released, not to mention she does like kinda Canthan-ish don't ya think ?
You mean besides the fact that a) there are canthan mesmers and b) they already said there would be no ritualist seeing as guardians were given several of their skills and are basically a hybridization of rits/paragons that evolved from monks? Kind of odd how they chose to eliminate 3 classes and combine it into a single one, especially since I actually liked Ritualists. But they seemed to void them out when they brought in the Guardian, though I will give you that they did NOT say Ritualist wouldn't later get overhauled similar to what is expected of Mesmers.
I'd actually like to see Ritualists back in, but much darker and more awesome. After Mesmers, ofc ;p
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Realistically, I believe that the reason the next anticipated class wasn't unveiled was because they needed to fine tune the class. The mesmer was a reactive shutdown class in a lot of GW skills. In order for it to be ready, you'd have to have all the mechanics of skills prepared and finalized. This means the other classes should be done before this class is ready to be announced.
Seems rather apparent why they are leaving it to last and putting out all these hints.
It's to keep the fans going just that little bit longer.
They know you want it. So they will tease you with a string (the mesmer class) pulling you along while they keep working on the game.
If they releaed the mesmer class right now you would celebrate for a few days then ask whats next and start picking everything apart.
Really it's just a marketing tool to keep people hungering for the game.
Leastwise thats how i see it.
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mesmers counteract other classes. they interrupt actions, lengthen cast times, cause people to take damage when they use skills, drain energy, etc. most of they damage they cause is due to their oppnent doing damage to themselves.
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That is what I thought too. Thye love to milk every ounce out of you first then hit you with the good stuff to Mezmerize you.
Let's hope it's going to be TRUE.
Mesmers were really a huge SCREW YOU class. In GW1 GvG's, a single good mesmer can break the entire backline with domination spec and interrupts. It's one of those classes where player skill shows and really mattered if you wanted to be a good mesmer. As you can tell from the original post, mesmers fuck with your opponent's mind. The most important thing for playing a mesmer is your ability to read your opponents and react accordingly to it.Just thinking about this made me miss the game, haha. Seriously, GW1 GvG was a huge chess battle back then, where tactics and strategies were only limited by your own team's skills.
not a confirmation but ANET did say this months ago
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-02-23-mesmer-and-assassin-in-guild-wars-2
On the Mesmer profession
Jon Peters added: "What we've said at some point is people who enjoy that [Mesmer] play-style will be happy, but no more than that."
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This definitely : mesmer were one of the most, if not the most, interesting class to play in pvp...
But I fear this time pvp will not be that intense and tactic, hence mesmer will not be what they use to be
My first hint is you won't have to choose 2 professions like before which will make pvp by far less strategic... but more accessible indeed.
It's just one step from the sublime to the ridiculous.
C9 impatient awaiter
This is what is really silly about you Mesmerites. Can you not see that a Mesmer is just a Bard with its name changed? And what's more, they were not favored at all within the story of Guild Wars. No special attention was paid to that class whatsoever. No Mesmer even appeared on any of the cover art, for heaven's sake.
They are really trying to hype it in a different way. By teasing you with hints, they make you yearn for more. To know.
And yeah, the mesmer was different in GW, but there were a few games with mesmer type classes. I sure think it was my favorite class in gw.
If I well remember the bard of everquest it was specifically a group buffer/debuffer kind of class (something better like a monk in GW, except the heal abilities of course), the mesmer was heavily focused on interruption and backfire kind of class : it was close to some Magic the Gathering kind of strategy to me, and I'd never seen that before playing it in GW actually.
It's just one step from the sublime to the ridiculous.
C9 impatient awaiter
not true
Gwen, whos been around since prophecies, was profiled as being a mesmer in GW story of Eye of the North
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Gwen
as to cover art, this one of the box art for Prophecies -- a mesmer
maybe you dont remember, but all of the original 6 classes had box art sold for retail
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Of course the mesmer is unique. There have been a very few classes somewhat similar, but not the same, not even close, really. And they are nothing like bards. That is just ridiculous. Just insane.
And, yes, as Nadia pointed out, there has been special attention paid the mesmer, and it is very interesting from a lore perspective. Not to mention its use in the GW2 books.
"Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true you know it, and they know it." Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007
WTF? No subscription fee?
Well most likely the Mesmer will appear on the horizon before GW2 is launched, if not they will let so many of their fidel players down, which would be unwise both economically and when it comes to the reputation of the GW brand and ArenaNet.
I just hope they will blend in some of the aspects of the Ritualist, since I would love to see my character destroy enemies through the means of various spirits. Or maybe I will just have to wait for the first expansion or campaign to get that.
I agree the Mesmer is unique to GW it's just that from a graphical point of view a mage controlling spirits would be more spectacular, and I hope at some stage they will present to us a spell caster not taken from GW; does the lore support such a wish in any way?
A sylvari mesmer would be nice, blending with the trees and bushes manipulating the minds of the adversaries without them being able to realize what causes their mental distruction.
As an aside, instead of fidel, you mean to say "loyal."
I, personally would rather wait until I can get my hands on a ritualist. I know there is some ritualist in the Guardian, but I want a good ritualist with the same kinds of improvements I am seeing with everything else. I love that class, and it is so unique in it's theme and implantation. Most pet classes work so differently, and they never have that level of versatility and utility. I don't want the mesmer to have very much rit in it. I know they will be changing a great deal, and I imagine I will like what they come up with, but I want my ritualist when we make it to Cantha. I'm sure they are having problems too, and who better to help?
For that matter, I'd love to see the dervish when we get to Elona. And I am sure Anet is taking those who think like us into account, and I am sure they will try to keep us happy.
I am not sure how the lore supports a new spellcasting cast, but as we saw with Utopia, they are more than willing to create new lands for us to visit, and there could be any number of new magic-users in those places. There is no reason to believe we've seen the half of what Tyria has to offer.
"Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true you know it, and they know it." Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007
WTF? No subscription fee?
Does the engineer mechanic not replace the ritualist one ? Thought with so much kind of turrets : firing turret, healing turret and so on, the engineer will feed this role...
I did not well know the ritualist mechanic anyway, but apparently it could work similarly, couldn't it ?
It's just one step from the sublime to the ridiculous.
C9 impatient awaiter
It's not a shocker but I am glad. If it was not implemented in GW2 I would not buy it!! J/K. I would still buy it, it is only one class but it is the first class I played in GW1 and enjoyed how different it was to others. But I am glad
If GWEN was a memser and she survived and then she hooked up with the Thackeray guy
Now we know their grandson or great grandson is in GW2 so it safe to assume that her memser teaching were passed on to the next genearations .
Also memsers were part of original Kryta so in GW2 the remaining humainoids would very well have that profession.
we might see a different version of memser integrated but it will be in
It was one unique and a damn good class in GW1 to be ignored
UNLESS the profession will be brought back in expansions
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You mean besides the fact that a) there are canthan mesmers and b) they already said there would be no ritualist seeing as guardians were given several of their skills and are basically a hybridization of rits/paragons that evolved from monks? Kind of odd how they chose to eliminate 3 classes and combine it into a single one, especially since I actually liked Ritualists. But they seemed to void them out when they brought in the Guardian, though I will give you that they did NOT say Ritualist wouldn't later get overhauled similar to what is expected of Mesmers.
I'd actually like to see Ritualists back in, but much darker and more awesome. After Mesmers, ofc ;p
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