MMORPGs have the same core elements (stats, progression, combat, story) that videogame RPGs have had since they started making videogame RPGs. So I'm not seeing where modern MMORPGs lack RPG.
If you have the opinion that features X, Y, and Z are fun, that's great -- but let's not pretend that without features X, Y, and Z a game isn't an RPG because that's wrong.
I agree. the meaning of a RPG video game is different from Role Playing in the real word (meaning)
The rpg elements get dumbed down to please the masses in order to sell your game to a wider audience. Unfortunately mmos are all about the money and not for the love of gaming.
So:
Making games fewer people enjoy is loving gaming, and
Making games more people enjoy is hating gaming.
Got it.
Therefore, in the interest of gaming love developers should strive to make games nobody likes!
"What is truly revealing is his implication that believing something to be true is the same as it being true. [continue]" -John Oliver
The rpg elements get dumbed down to please the masses in order to sell your game to a wider audience. Unfortunately mmos are all about the money and not for the love of gaming.
So:
Making games fewer people enjoy is loving gaming, and
Making games more people enjoy is hating gaming.
Got it.
Therefore, in the interest of gaming love developers should strive to make games nobody likes!
not sure, but Saint looks like he/she was being sarcastic
There is GM's of sorts in RL. It's called police, government, etc.
They only seem equivalent to GMs due to most people's relationships with them. However, they are no different than anyone else. A GM in a game world has extra-game abilities. Teleport, ban, mute, etc, etc. "RL GMs" have none of these and are no different than any other player in the "game".
The rpg elements get dumbed down to please the masses in order to sell your game to a wider audience. Unfortunately mmos are all about the money and not for the love of gaming.
So:
Making games fewer people enjoy is loving gaming, and
Making games more people enjoy is hating gaming.
Got it.
Therefore, in the interest of gaming love developers should strive to make games nobody likes!
There are games and then there are addiction machines we also call games for some reason. Which is the better type of game - slot machines or the arcade games of old? Most MMO"RPG"s are nothing more than fancy slot machines that rely on addiction rather than fun and skills to make people play them. Skinner box design may well get more people to ''play'' these ''games'', but they are lesser games as a result.
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I agree. the meaning of a RPG video game is different from Role Playing in the real word (meaning)
Philosophy of MMO Game Design
So:
Making games fewer people enjoy is loving gaming, and
Making games more people enjoy is hating gaming.
Got it.
Therefore, in the interest of gaming love developers should strive to make games nobody likes!
"What is truly revealing is his implication that believing something to be true is the same as it being true. [continue]" -John Oliver
not sure, but Saint looks like he/she was being sarcastic
Philosophy of MMO Game Design
They only seem equivalent to GMs due to most people's relationships with them. However, they are no different than anyone else. A GM in a game world has extra-game abilities. Teleport, ban, mute, etc, etc. "RL GMs" have none of these and are no different than any other player in the "game".
RL = self-policing permadeath sandbox
Oh you have a role alright, in your standard RPG Role Playing Game (in case you don't know what RPG stands for), your role is grinding.
grind away grind away grind away http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlkSepPTLUc
There are games and then there are addiction machines we also call games for some reason. Which is the better type of game - slot machines or the arcade games of old? Most MMO"RPG"s are nothing more than fancy slot machines that rely on addiction rather than fun and skills to make people play them. Skinner box design may well get more people to ''play'' these ''games'', but they are lesser games as a result.
It died with the great UO
and to think it was going to be the game that everyone copied but then the dreaded EQ showed up