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About to give up...
Lanmoragon
Member Posts: 994
To cut to the chase, I am about to give up on this game. The reason is the infamous Blue Screen Of Death..Dun Dun Dun.
I am getting fed up with this. For the first 2 months or so of playing WoW, i had no problems. No error 132, no blue screen of death, and no crashes. I didnt play for about 2 weeks starting about Dec. 20th, and after i come back I am all of a sudden getting the BSoD(blue screen of death). Its gotten to the point that i can not even load my characters anymore.
I have given up posting on the WoW forums for lack of support and being flamed to death. I post the problem and either it never gets a response from any devs(like most posts ive seen), or i get flamed to death by total fanboys who worship Blizzard and say it has nothing to do with the client itself or the patches. To those people or the Blizzard Devs, it is always a problem with your hardware.
Give me a break. How the hell could it be a problem with my hardware when i didnt change anything at all. So they are telling me that "yea it may have run fine for 2 months, but all of a sudden it seems like your hardware is un-compatible with our game..blah blah blah". Thats a total load of BS. First off, the game worked perfectly fine. Second, I can run any other game, new or old, including BF1942, CoD, City of Heroes, Everquest 2, Horizons, NWN, without any problems.
I have done everything recommended on the forums. I have updated, rolled back, and updated again every single hardware driver. I have reinstalled the game twice. And yes that means sitting through the patcher for hours, even though i have all of the ports open like they say. I have swapped RAM sticks. I have prayed to God Almighty Himself before i go to sleep, yet it does not work. I have even taken my comp and WoW to the pope himself for a blessing. Nothing works.
I basically fell like I have gone out and bought a $50 game, played it, now its broken, I can get no support, my $50 dollars ends up down the drain.
I guess the point of this thread is to ask if anybody has any final advice before i throw in the towel and call it a game. Please, im not looking for a flame, im not looking for "OMG BLIZZARD IS THE SHIZZNET TO H-IZO YOU SUXXORS WoW IS 1337" crap, im not looking for "its a problem with your hardware". Im just looking for a straight answer that people have used to help themselves.
Note: Although i sound pretty angry and frustrated, as i have a right to be, I really to like this game.
Thanks for any replies.
EDIT: Just wanted to add that if you want to see the screenshot for the BSoD, sorry but i cant help you. I dont feel like sitting through another crash and subjecting my system to what harm the 4000th crash is doing. I can tell you that it is the usual " memory dumb, IRQ" message.
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Just wanted to add that i get the blue screen not only while running the actual game, but when anything related to the WoW client is running. It crashes my comp when the patcher is running, yet i played a few hours of CS Source today and another few throughout the week...and guess what...no crashes.
I definitely think it is WoW due to this latest problem.
Didnt know Windows XP has a BSOD (Besides the memory dump thing..)
Are you on XP or a lower OS?
"Give me a break. How the hell could it be a problem with my hardware when i didnt change anything at all. So they are telling me that "yea it may have run fine for 2 months, but all of a sudden it seems like your hardware is un-compatible with our game..blah blah blah". "
Um , just because you don't change a thing doesn't mean that if they change a thing in the game that it's not possible that it conflicts with YOUR hard/software
I agree, their technical support is a joke.
Blizzard tech support steps :
1) Reboot
2) Defrag your HD
3) Update all your drivers
4) UPdate DX
5) Reinstall the game
6) Once all this is done, the tech support guy in blue will ask you to send in your dxdiag info, after which your "request for help" will sink below the first page into obscurity and nobody will ever reply to it.
7) After that you can try praying to Allah, getting advice from your Rabbi, trying to get it blessed at the Vatican, ask your local Wiccans for an Invocation of Nehek, or try to get an answer from the meditation of a Buddhist monk.
If steps 1-7 don't work, un-install the game and go play EQ2.
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" Dude, he said no flaming. "
Do you have any idea of what the concept of a flame is? I'm correcting a misconception he has that if they changed something in game and that doesn't work on his comp it couldn't be related to his own hardware.
Honestly , these boards seem worse than the VN boards.
Ty for the responses everybody.
To whoever said it might be a conflict with my hardware, i guess it could. But that is not a conflict that is due to something i did with my comp. It is due to something Blizzard did in their recent patch that then conflicted my hardware. I am definitely not willing to go change my hardware for a patch.
Just hope i figure out how to fix it before my subscription runs out in another week and a half. Not going to pay for a game i cant play anymore.
As to trying to fix it, does anybody know if it could be a problem with certain areas in the game? It first happened to me while going into IF on the bird, and i have read on the forums that this happens to alot of other people. Im not sure if it is even an in game problem, as I get the BSoD when just running the patcher.
I am sorry you are having troubles...honestly, I am. It would suck not to be able to play this great game.
However, if there were a problem with the patch, it would be much more widespread. The problem is, it didn't have the same effect on literally hundreds of thousands of people (press release said they had over 200K concurrent over the holidays).
So its hard to say where the problem lies. I hate to say it but given the numbers, it points to a problem with certain PCs with either a software or hardware conflict or perhaps a corrupted file(s).
I know this doesn't help solve your problem, and like I said, I honestly feel bad for you. I hope that you are able to resolve it cause it really is a fantastic game.
Yea, after experimenting for the past hour, i realized I only get the blue screen when trying to log onto my main char, or once or twice while patching. Rather than with the patch, I think that possibly something happened to the files for my main char? I really have no idea if this can happen or not, but is it possible that somehow something was corrupted with my main char?
The reason i am thinking that is because i see alot of similar experiences on the WoW forums. Many people can log onto any alt (as i can) and play without the crash, but as soon as they log onto or try to log onto their main, the game crashes the comp. So is it at all possible that something just randomely happens to people characters that makes them unplayable? (Note: I think that people only say their main character crashes because that is the character they spend most of their time playing, therefor it has the greatest chance of something happening to it).
Now after going through my different characters and seeing that only the main that crashes the comp, i honestly dont think it is a problem with the WoW client or patch affecting my computer. If it was a problem with the client, then logically i wouldnt be able to play any character.
Hi there,
Is there anyway that you can post the hardware configuration that you are running the game in?
Jojoque, here are my specs:
P4 3.06 HT, 768mb RAM (not sure the speed but its not 3200), Nvidia 5200 64mb, Windows XP SP2, not entirely sure of the sound card. This is a Dell built laptop. I realize that the vidcard is pretty low, and there is nothing i can do about it unless Dell decides to give an upgrade, but it can run every other game fine, including the latest and greatest MMORPG's.
While i realize that yes, maybe WoW, might conflict with my hardware when no other game doesnt, i just cant help but think its not my hardware. When I can play a game fine for 2 months and then it just starts crashing all of a sudden but only on one character, i just tend to think it is more of a client side conflict, and not my actual hardware.
Rojoque if you would like to see the dxdaig config, please say so. Just didnt want to put it up and fill up a whole page unless its necessary.
Thanks for the help
I have been thinking of reformatting my hard drive anyways. It would be nice to get rid of all of the crap that dell put on it and just load what i need and want.
Ive started a new char and havent gotten the BSoD yet in the past 2 hours so looks like i will just play this new char.
As to reformatting my HD, i will start a new thread because i know that i will need some help.
Thanks for the replies.
Dells are nice computers, but I have to agree I cant stand the sh*t they throw on the computer for you. Personally I always buy the parts seperate and put togather my own. All that background cr*p they put on the computer just hogs up system resources. You can order from websites that will custom configure a computer for you, and even install the OS if you want them to.
Just two examples
MonarchComputers.com
Aberdeeninc.com
Next time you buy a computer check them out, all the power or more of a Dell, without all the extra garbage you may not want.
To post on the WoW forums you need alot of patience and real thick skin, because the battlenet kiddies will attack like rabid idiots for no reason if speak ill of thier addiction.
Wonder if thier customer service is based in India as well
I can barely understand them.
Some things to look for and avoid...
1. try uninstalling video drivers, then disable any virus program and then reinstall latest drivers for video card.
2. check manual for chipset, being a P4 on a Dell Im gonna guess and say you have an intel chipset (900 series). Check intel's site for latest chipset utlities. (again, make sure virus programs arent running while installing)
3. Make sure no other video applications are running in the background while running WoW. To check, go to start, then run, then type in msconfig. You'll see a list of programs that load in the background during startup. Pretty much only ones you need there checked are your firewall, virus software, systtray, and explorer. Uncheck everything else especially windows media player, quicktime, realplayer, etc.
4. If possible, uninstall SP2 and use only SP1. I work in tech support and 95% of any conflicts start and end with Service Pack 2.
Ultimately I tend to feel your issue is video card related. A 5200 series is rather outdated and driver support is limited. What may have happened is the latest patch caused some unknown issue that blizzard is unaware of. My advice, you have a decent system but having a high end cpu is a waste without a decent video card. Kinda like buying a ferrari but putting a chevy engine in it and bald retread tired. If on a limited budget, got for an ATI 9600xt card...i run WoW using one and have graphics on max setting for every category without issues.
thnx for the replies.
admriker444: I just reformated and reinstalled XP. I am just installing the stuff that i want, and none of the crap that dell put on it. I will not being installing SP2, as it has led to other problems with other apps/games.
As to my vid card, im afraid i am stuck with it. The Dell i have is a laptop, so unless Dell actually decides to please me as a customer, i doubt they will ever come out with a newer vid card version for my laptop chassis.
Im just praying that i can secure the extra 60 hours or so in the next 6 months so i can build myself a new comp that costs less than 1000 bucks.
Thanks for the replies everybody. I really appreciate that i didnt get flamed at all and actually got some helpful replies.
I know you need to save up some money, but computers are really cheap now. I assumed you could get a copy of XP and had a monitor, but if you go to newegg.com - or Fry's if you have a store near you - you can build really cheap systems from $500-$800 that are really good systems. He is a quick run down of costs. Add $99 for Windows and $99-$199 if you need a monitor:
45-case
125-250GB HD
32-CD Drive
190-AMD 64 3200
100-motherboard
240-Geforce 6600GT
50-keyboard/mouse
45-case
125-250GB HD
32-CD Drive
109 AMD XP 2800+
50- motherboard
99- Geforce FX 5700
50 Keyboard/mouse
have u tought about that it can be a virus or trojan that attacked ur wow files? ever tried to scan the wow directory or just ur hole driver? or just get a firewall and only open the ports that the game needs?
if not.. try it it might do the trick... if not.. f*** it
dont think its ur hardware... unless u got a bios-virus... anyway.. try go for a good antivirus program and a nice firewall.. and configure them the right way 
over and out
over and out
Yeah, Blizzard needs to take a serious financial hit for screwing up what should have been the best launch of an MMORPG ever. Instead it's starting to look like the most annoying launch every. The login server problems are almost nightly and the recent 16 hour maintenance that they did only seems to have made everything worse!
Blizzard sucks and I'm sticking to that opinion until they get their act together. I don't appreciate paying $50 to be a beta tester at all!
You know what is funny, is that in most MMORPG people pay $50 for the game and then a monthly fee for a few months as basically a beta tester
Two reasons for it. One certain things you just are not going to know until they go live no matter how good of a beta test your had. Second, the company is unprepared or rushes the game out of the door too soon. So if you do not want to pay to beta test a game, wait a couple of months before you get it