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SWTOR awarded 15 times at E3- going in the right direction!

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  • hielouxhieloux Member Posts: 6

    Not sure why so much hate for a game that not many of you have played. I for one am extremly excited for this game.

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  • musicmannmusicmann Member UncommonPosts: 1,095

    Why does TOR have to be, the be all end all game for every mmorpg gamer on the planet. It's ok to not like TOR, it really is. It's also ok to like the game. I just can't figure out this constant belittling of a game that some find not to be interesting at all. No one is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to follow, or ever play the game.

    If you are just a mmo gamer, i would think it is easy to just turn your attention to a game that has systems that fits your playstyle more. If you're a SW fan, and only like the origional movies and that timeline of SW lore, there are other games, such As SWG to get your fix. This game that Bioware has made was never intented to recapture or become a newer version of what SOE had created.

    I can't understand why some people want to constantly rain on others parade, because they are truly optimistic about a product they want to buy and play. Is coming and highjacking every thread with negative and outright opinions stated as facts gonna somehow stop the game from being launched. We all know the answer to that i would assume. Is it, that some are so scared that TOR reviews by the majority is very positive, they feel some how it will destroy their little mmo world and feel the need to bash and lash out at it every chance they get. It sure feels that way, and honestly there is no reason for anyone to do that.

    I can understand the opinions and debates from anyone who has a genuine interest in the game and wants to voice them. Bioware themselves want all feedback, be it good or bad, even though this isn't the place for that. They even said that a good time ago. So, it's not that big of a deal, for someone to start a thread on the awards that TOR received this year at E3. It's not being cocky or distasteful to any other game or developer. It's just someone being excited about the game getting good reviews and wanting to share that with like minded people.

  • bansanbansan Member Posts: 367

    Originally posted by maskedweasel

    *snip*

    I don't care what your opinions are or how you post them.  If someone posts a negative opinion,  don't get pissed when you get a reply stating or showing the exact opposite as a counterpoint.   

    Naturally.  So now I'm wondering why you made a post criticising someone just for the act of making a negative post, and then asking him why doesn't he just post a positive opinion instead, instead of doing what you wrote above.

  • dinamsdinams Member Posts: 1,362

    Wasn't the SW:TOR fans saying that "awards means nothing" when GW2 stolen some of theirs?

    A bit ironic no?

    =P

    Well congratulations anyway

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  • waynejr2waynejr2 Member EpicPosts: 7,771

    Originally posted by dinams

    Wasn't the SW:TOR fans saying that "awards means nothing" when GW2 stolen some of theirs?

    A bit ironic no?

    =P

    Well congratulations anyway

     Awards are hype.

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  • VesaviusVesavius Member RarePosts: 7,908

    Originally posted by keithian

    Despite all the gloom and doom threads from those who havn't touched the game, here is a continuing sign that the game is going in the right direction. I think this game is going to be big and it will be fun for a huge number of people, especially those who don't visit forums lol

    http://torwars.com/2011/06/17/swtor-dinged-15-times-at-e3/

    From the official site-->http://www.swtor.com/news/news-article/20110617-0

     

     

    I honestly don't listen to any industry opinion on any game pre launch, especially if a major dev house is involved. They are never 'unpressured' and rarely honest.

    EA seem to be amongst the worst at requiring 'positive attention' as well.

    I believe my own experience and the word of my friends, E3 awards mean nothing.

  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195

    Originally posted by bansan

    Originally posted by maskedweasel


    *snip*

    I don't care what your opinions are or how you post them.  If someone posts a negative opinion,  don't get pissed when you get a reply stating or showing the exact opposite as a counterpoint.   

    Naturally.  So now I'm wondering why you made a post criticising someone just for the act of making a negative post, and then asking him why doesn't he just post a positive opinion instead, instead of doing what you wrote above.

    If thats how you read my post then I consider it a misinterpretation.  He stated that he was tired of people posting follow-up positive SWTOR messages,  my question was,  why does it matter? Are positive messages not allowed and negative impressions should be left alone?   Avid fanboys or haters, does it really matter?  This forum is made for discussions of opinions good or bad,  where there is a bad one on SWTOR there will be responses correlating to its counterpoint.  Thats just how it is.



  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183

    I have to agree with those who are saying awards at e3 or any trade show really don't mean much. The award is for presentation not the actual game, anyone can make nice trailers or do well repesenting their game at a show. That said awards for games in general have never been an interest of mine.

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  • bansanbansan Member Posts: 367

    Originally posted by maskedweasel

    Originally posted by bansan


    Originally posted by maskedweasel


    *snip*

    I don't care what your opinions are or how you post them.  If someone posts a negative opinion,  don't get pissed when you get a reply stating or showing the exact opposite as a counterpoint.   

    Naturally.  So now I'm wondering why you made a post criticising someone just for the act of making a negative post, and then asking him why doesn't he just post a positive opinion instead, instead of doing what you wrote above.

    If thats how you read my post then I consider it a misinterpretation.  He stated that he was tired of people posting follow-up positive SWTOR messages,  my question was,  why does it matter? Are positive messages not allowed and negative impressions should be left alone?   Avid fanboys or haters, does it really matter?  This forum is made for discussions of opinions good or bad,  where there is a bad one on SWTOR there will be responses correlating to its counterpoint.  Thats just how it is.

    That may be so.

  • CujoSWAoACujoSWAoA Member UncommonPosts: 1,781

    I love "Awards", I really do.

    Lets all pat ourselves on the back and be handed a fake gold statue. 

    You know, just because the Emmy's happen every year, doesn't mean that there's anything Good on television. They're not going to cancel the award show just because all the available nominees stink.

    Awards don't tell you ANYthing.

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183

    Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

    I love "Awards", I really do.

    Lets all pat ourselves on the back and be handed a fake gold statue. 

    You know, just because the Emmy's happen every year, doesn't mean that there's anything Good on television. They're not going to cancel the award show just because all the available nominees stink.

    Awards don't tell you AnYthing.

    I have to say at least Emmy's are given after the performance has been seen. In this case it would be like having a box art award ceremony, or "who did the best in their interviews" award show.

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  • whilanwhilan Member UncommonPosts: 3,472

    Meh, it's bragging rights for Bioware, doesn't say much about wether i'll like the game or not.

    However with that said, awards do mean something. As in if they didn't get any awards people would be pointing out that the game is somehow bad or something as it clearly didn't win any awards at all.  So they only really mean something in their absenance not their presence.

    Lets just hope that if other MMO wins awards people don't start flaunting those around to, otherwise i'm going to be forced to bring the quotes from this thread into other threads :P

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  • SlothnChunkSlothnChunk Member UncommonPosts: 788

    Not many MMOs were at E3 in the first place so there wasn't exactly a lot of competiton. One of the Massively editors even said "I'm going to have to give this one to Star Wars: The Old Republic, even though it didn't personally excite me" when giving their MMO of E3. Few MMOs are in the later stages like TOR so they were unable to show off a lot of the game footage.

    And the fact MMORPG.com gave the best E3 award to Defiance, a game seen for the very first time at E3, doesn't bode well for TOR. I suppose you can interpret the E3 MMO awards in several ways.

    Also, 3 of those 15 awards (20%) were for best trailer. Trailers have little to do with the game itself and often aren't even made by the developer. EDIT: The Old Republic trailers are made by a company called Blur Studio.

  • musicmannmusicmann Member UncommonPosts: 1,095

    I guess now, TOR will get bashed because it got some awards at one of the many trade shows that they will appear at. Who cares if they got it because of a new trailer or whatever. Would this discussion even be going on if another certain game was at E3 and TOR was not.

    These forums are really like a playground for under acheiving kids who go back and forth on my dad is bigger than your dad and crap like that.

    Be happy if you have a particular game coming out, one that you are stoked to play, that has a forum in which you can discuss different things about it. There's a difference of posting a positive negative, than when someone posts a trolling negative. The first being , anyone who is truly excited about a particular game. They will dicuss the different systems that game entails and also dicuss what they like about the game and what they think should be looked at in greater details, to either be broadened or left out all togeither. The other, is someone who comes into a thread and no matter how long that post becomes, basically can be interpeted as this game sucks post.

    It didn't take very long after the this game was added to this site, to figure out who is a trolling negative poster. The same names appear day in and day out in every TOR thread that gets started.

  • findaratofindarato Member Posts: 74

    Originally posted by musicmann

    I guess now, TOR will get bashed because it got some awards at one of the many trade shows that they will appear at. Who cares if they got it because of a new trailer or whatever. Would this discussion even be going on if another certain game was at E3 and TOR was not.

    These forums are really like a playground for under acheiving kids who go back and forth on my dad is bigger than your dad and crap like that.

    Be happy if you have a particular game coming out, one that you are stoked to play, that has a forum in which you can discuss different things about it. There's a difference of posting a positive negative, than when someone posts a trolling negative. The first being , anyone who is truly excited about a particular game. They will dicuss the different systems that game entails and also dicuss what they like about the game and what they think should be looked at in greater details, to either be broadened or left out all togeither. The other, is someone who comes into a thread and no matter how long that post becomes, basically can be interpeted as this game sucks post.

    It didn't take very long after the this game was added to this site, to figure out who is a trolling negative poster. The same names appear day in and day out in every TOR thread that gets started.

    You sir are an epic poster, and my hero.

  • SlothnChunkSlothnChunk Member UncommonPosts: 788

    Originally posted by musicmann

    I guess now, TOR will get bashed because it got some awards at one of the many trade shows that they will appear at. Who cares if they got it because of a new trailer or whatever. Would this discussion even be going on if another certain game was at E3 and TOR was not.

    If any MMO received 20% or more of it's trade show 'awards' due to a trailer, and in this case one Bioware didn't even make, I would point that out.

  • musicmannmusicmann Member UncommonPosts: 1,095

    Originally posted by SlothnChunk

    Originally posted by musicmann

    I guess now, TOR will get bashed because it got some awards at one of the many trade shows that they will appear at. Who cares if they got it because of a new trailer or whatever. Would this discussion even be going on if another certain game was at E3 and TOR was not.

    If any MMO received 20% or more of it's trade show 'awards' due to a trailer, and in this case one Bioware didn't even make, I would point that out.

    Who makes a film? The writer or the people who shoots, cuts and finalizes it. I would gander, Bioware wrote the story on all three trailers and BLUR, did the rest. So yes, Bioware did deserve that award depending on whomever game it out.

  • SlothnChunkSlothnChunk Member UncommonPosts: 788

    Originally posted by musicmann

    Originally posted by SlothnChunk


    Originally posted by musicmann

    I guess now, TOR will get bashed because it got some awards at one of the many trade shows that they will appear at. Who cares if they got it because of a new trailer or whatever. Would this discussion even be going on if another certain game was at E3 and TOR was not.

    If any MMO received 20% or more of it's trade show 'awards' due to a trailer, and in this case one Bioware didn't even make, I would point that out.

    Who makes a film? The writer or the people who shoots, cuts and finalizes it. I would gander, Bioware wrote the story on all three trailers and BLUR, did the rest. So yes, Bioware did deserve that award depending on whomever game it out.

    What makes the TOR trailers amazing is the CGI not the 'amazing' stories or anything. Now you're into silly territory defending trailers like that have something to do with the MMO itself.  Whatever makes you happy I guess.

  • musicmannmusicmann Member UncommonPosts: 1,095

    Originally posted by SlothnChunk

    Originally posted by musicmann


    Originally posted by SlothnChunk


    Originally posted by musicmann

    I guess now, TOR will get bashed because it got some awards at one of the many trade shows that they will appear at. Who cares if they got it because of a new trailer or whatever. Would this discussion even be going on if another certain game was at E3 and TOR was not.

    If any MMO received 20% or more of it's trade show 'awards' due to a trailer, and in this case one Bioware didn't even make, I would point that out.

    Who makes a film? The writer or the people who shoots, cuts and finalizes it. I would gander, Bioware wrote the story on all three trailers and BLUR, did the rest. So yes, Bioware did deserve that award depending on whomever game it out.

    What makes the TOR trailers amazing is the CGI not the 'amazing' stories or anything. Now you're into silly territory defending trailers like that have something to do with the MMO itself.  Whatever makes you happy I guess.

    Wow, so you don't think the sacking of Corusant that they showed in the first trailer has anything to do with the actual game. Or how the Sith empire in the third finally showed themselves to retake Korriban. Hmm, interesting.

    Le t me add. So if Bioware  and BLUR with the permission of Gl, made a full legnth feature film, you would just go for the CGi and not the story as well.

  • SlothnChunkSlothnChunk Member UncommonPosts: 788

    Originally posted by musicmann

    Originally posted by SlothnChunk


    Originally posted by musicmann


    Originally posted by SlothnChunk


    Originally posted by musicmann

    I guess now, TOR will get bashed because it got some awards at one of the many trade shows that they will appear at. Who cares if they got it because of a new trailer or whatever. Would this discussion even be going on if another certain game was at E3 and TOR was not.

    If any MMO received 20% or more of it's trade show 'awards' due to a trailer, and in this case one Bioware didn't even make, I would point that out.

    Who makes a film? The writer or the people who shoots, cuts and finalizes it. I would gander, Bioware wrote the story on all three trailers and BLUR, did the rest. So yes, Bioware did deserve that award depending on whomever game it out.

    What makes the TOR trailers amazing is the CGI not the 'amazing' stories or anything. Now you're into silly territory defending trailers like that have something to do with the MMO itself.  Whatever makes you happy I guess.

    Wow, so you don't think the sacking of Corusant that they showed in the first trailer has anything to do with the actual game. Or how the Sith empire in the third finally showed themselves to retake Korriban. Hmm, interesting.

    They aren't made by Bioware and they have nothing to do with actual MMO gameplay. The trailers are also fantastic due to the CGI not the 'script' or anything.

    Other than that I suppose you're right. I've never seen someone defend trailer outsourced by a developer like this before. Did I strike a nerve because I was making a valid point that I would apply to any MMO.

  • musicmannmusicmann Member UncommonPosts: 1,095

    Originally posted by SlothnChunk

    Originally posted by musicmann


    Originally posted by SlothnChunk


    Originally posted by musicmann


    Originally posted by SlothnChunk


    Originally posted by musicmann

    I guess now, TOR will get bashed because it got some awards at one of the many trade shows that they will appear at. Who cares if they got it because of a new trailer or whatever. Would this discussion even be going on if another certain game was at E3 and TOR was not.

    If any MMO received 20% or more of it's trade show 'awards' due to a trailer, and in this case one Bioware didn't even make, I would point that out.

    Who makes a film? The writer or the people who shoots, cuts and finalizes it. I would gander, Bioware wrote the story on all three trailers and BLUR, did the rest. So yes, Bioware did deserve that award depending on whomever game it out.

    What makes the TOR trailers amazing is the CGI not the 'amazing' stories or anything. Now you're into silly territory defending trailers like that have something to do with the MMO itself.  Whatever makes you happy I guess.

    Wow, so you don't think the sacking of Corusant that they showed in the first trailer has anything to do with the actual game. Or how the Sith empire in the third finally showed themselves to retake Korriban. Hmm, interesting.

    They aren't made by Bioware and they have nothing to do with actual MMO gameplay. The trailers are also fantastic due to the CGI not the 'script' or anything.

    Other than that I suppose you're right. I've never seen someone defend trailer outsourced by a developer like this before. Did I strike a nerve because I was making a valid point that I would apply to any MMO.

    Nope, didn't strike a nerve at all. Just trying to point out your inability to understand that even though the trailers were made by BLUR, the story that was contained in them were in reference to some of the main story arcs in the game itself.

  • SlothnChunkSlothnChunk Member UncommonPosts: 788

    Originally posted by musicmann

    Originally posted by SlothnChunk


    Originally posted by musicmann


    Originally posted by SlothnChunk


    Originally posted by musicmann


    Originally posted by SlothnChunk


    Originally posted by musicmann

    I guess now, TOR will get bashed because it got some awards at one of the many trade shows that they will appear at. Who cares if they got it because of a new trailer or whatever. Would this discussion even be going on if another certain game was at E3 and TOR was not.

    If any MMO received 20% or more of it's trade show 'awards' due to a trailer, and in this case one Bioware didn't even make, I would point that out.

    Who makes a film? The writer or the people who shoots, cuts and finalizes it. I would gander, Bioware wrote the story on all three trailers and BLUR, did the rest. So yes, Bioware did deserve that award depending on whomever game it out.

    What makes the TOR trailers amazing is the CGI not the 'amazing' stories or anything. Now you're into silly territory defending trailers like that have something to do with the MMO itself.  Whatever makes you happy I guess.

    Wow, so you don't think the sacking of Corusant that they showed in the first trailer has anything to do with the actual game. Or how the Sith empire in the third finally showed themselves to retake Korriban. Hmm, interesting.

    They aren't made by Bioware and they have nothing to do with actual MMO gameplay. The trailers are also fantastic due to the CGI not the 'script' or anything.

    Other than that I suppose you're right. I've never seen someone defend trailer outsourced by a developer like this before. Did I strike a nerve because I was making a valid point that I would apply to any MMO.

    Nope, didn't strike a nerve at all. Just trying to point out your inability to understand that even though the trailers were made by BLUR, the story that was contained in them were in reference to some of the main story arcs in the game itself.

    Oh I agree. I'm sure Bioware sent a few sentences giving a summary of what the trailer had to encompass.  But the actual trailer is fantastic because of the CGI. I could care less about what was actually going on. I was in awe because of the visuals, sound, etc. I think you're really grasping at straws trying to give Bioware credit for the trailers.

  • ThomasN7ThomasN7 87.18.7.148Member CommonPosts: 6,690

    Not hard to win when it is a one man race.  You actually think people were going to vote anything for Tera ? Not hating, just looking at it from a realistic point of view here. It sure will be interesting to see how launch goes.

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  • dinamsdinams Member Posts: 1,362

    Originally posted by whilan

    Meh, it's bragging rights for Bioware, doesn't say much about wether i'll like the game or not.

    However with that said, awards do mean something. As in if they didn't get any awards people would be pointing out that the game is somehow bad or something as it clearly didn't win any awards at all.  So they only really mean something in their absenance not their presence.

    Lets just hope that if other MMO wins awards people don't start flaunting those around to, otherwise i'm going to be forced to bring the quotes from this thread into other threads :P

    Please do it,  quoting things is a combo-breaker in anything =P

    I discovered that it's very satisfying to remember people's hypocrisy and thrown it in their faces hehe

    But again, I try to keep my mouth shut to avoid these cases turning over to me

     

    And to the two discussing about the damn cgi, get real, a shitty cgi kills a brilliant background, and a shitty background gives the cgi a pointless feel, both of them is what makes a good trailer

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  • musicmannmusicmann Member UncommonPosts: 1,095

    Originally posted by SlothnChunk

    Originally posted by musicmann


    Originally posted by SlothnChunk


    Originally posted by musicmann


    Originally posted by SlothnChunk


    Originally posted by musicmann


    Originally posted by SlothnChunk


    Originally posted by musicmann

    I guess now, TOR will get bashed because it got some awards at one of the many trade shows that they will appear at. Who cares if they got it because of a new trailer or whatever. Would this discussion even be going on if another certain game was at E3 and TOR was not.

    If any MMO received 20% or more of it's trade show 'awards' due to a trailer, and in this case one Bioware didn't even make, I would point that out.

    Who makes a film? The writer or the people who shoots, cuts and finalizes it. I would gander, Bioware wrote the story on all three trailers and BLUR, did the rest. So yes, Bioware did deserve that award depending on whomever game it out.

    What makes the TOR trailers amazing is the CGI not the 'amazing' stories or anything. Now you're into silly territory defending trailers like that have something to do with the MMO itself.  Whatever makes you happy I guess.

    Wow, so you don't think the sacking of Corusant that they showed in the first trailer has anything to do with the actual game. Or how the Sith empire in the third finally showed themselves to retake Korriban. Hmm, interesting.

    They aren't made by Bioware and they have nothing to do with actual MMO gameplay. The trailers are also fantastic due to the CGI not the 'script' or anything.

    Other than that I suppose you're right. I've never seen someone defend trailer outsourced by a developer like this before. Did I strike a nerve because I was making a valid point that I would apply to any MMO.

    Nope, didn't strike a nerve at all. Just trying to point out your inability to understand that even though the trailers were made by BLUR, the story that was contained in them were in reference to some of the main story arcs in the game itself.

    Oh I agree. I'm sure Bioware sent a few sentences giving a summary of what the trailer had to encompass.  But the actual trailer is fantastic because of the CGI. I could care less about what was actually going on. I was in awe because of the visuals, sound, etc. I think you're really grasping at straws trying to give Bioware credit for the trailers.

    Whoever you are your head is like a rock. The trailers are fantastic. They encompass more of the SW feeling than any of the movies LA ever done. Still doesn't change the fact that they were done for BIoware and they won an award on it. Should BLUR have gotten that award, probably so. I really could care less and arguing on something we both agree on is just down right self productive.

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