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Authenticator change, Blizz pushed it too far??

ShadoedShadoed Member UncommonPosts: 1,459

Now i don't know about most of you but i logged in to my account this morning and noticed that no authenticator code was asked for, so naturally the first thought was that my account had been compromised so i checked my chars and everything was fine, PHEW! After speaking to a few guildies i was told that Blizzard had (sort of) announced that an authenticator log on would no longer be required 100% of the time if you were logging on from the same location constantly!!!!!!!!!

Straight away i am thinking WTF! Blizzard have been pushing this as the best security for your account and i personally believe that it is, so why the hell would they make a stupid move like this? Then the worst rub of all that really pissed me off, there is no option to opt in or out of this!!!

I have been an advocate of most changes within the game and even those i wasn't too keen on i have accepted and got on with enjoying my game time, but this could be the straw to break this Camels back as i no longer feel that Blizzard is working to help it's players secure their accounts as much as possible. It plays straight into the hands of those that say Blizzard support hacking and gold selling and judging by the official forums there are plenty of players unhappy with this change as they are already on to their second thread since the first reached maximum replies.

How do other authenticator players feel about this?

It must be Thursday, i never could get the hang of Thursdays.

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  • DAHBOODAHBOO Member UncommonPosts: 137

    you still have the same security without the pain in the a$$ authenticator on your home computer, unless the hacker comes into your house.....whats the problem here??

  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Member RarePosts: 3,655

    Originally posted by DAHBOO

    you still have the same security without the pain in the a$$ authenticator on your home computer, unless the hacker comes into your house.....whats the problem here??

    Agree with this.

  • Redon1973Redon1973 Member Posts: 33

    LOL _RAGEQUIT_

     

    How dare they make the process more streamlined and user friendly?!! Where's my opt-out button!

  • VoiidiinVoiidiin Member Posts: 817

    So umm, if your logging into your game on the same computer from the same location you are not requied to input your authenticator every time ?

    How is this a straw that broke your camels back ? 

    Seriously its the sky is falling mentality, Blizzard has been at the forefront of MMO development, why would they want to create more problems ? Answer is they don't, nor will this be an issue for those who are smart players and do not do the braindead things others do to compromise there accounts.

    I just do not see the issue here, looks like just more drama for drama's sake.

    Lolipops !

  • kaliniskalinis Member Posts: 1,428

    I actually like the change. First off as long as i log in from the same computer i dont have to put in a number every time i log in. Also if i was to log into game from a diffrent computer i would need my authenticator so its not like my security is any less in fact it helps lesson keyloggers hacking my account as im not typing in a number every single time i log in.

    I still have to use authenticator to log into my account on battle.net so its a non issue. They just made it so they recognize when u log in from the same computer on a regular basis so u dont have to put your number in every time u log in i dont see the issue myself.

    Maybe the op is a blizzard hater trolling the forums thats all i can think.

  • RazeronRazeron Member Posts: 180

    Location-based account locks, and login restrictions are a fine addition to this kind of thing.

     

  • thanoskkkthanoskkk Member UncommonPosts: 230

    same thing Rift does

    He that lives upon Hope dies farting.

  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Member RarePosts: 3,655

    Originally posted by thanoskkk

    same thing Rift does

    /joke on   just one more thing Blizzard stole from other companies!

    /joke off

  • bansanbansan Member Posts: 367

    This would only be a problem if you mainly played at an internet cafe or some public place.  In that case, someone could target you I guess.

    It could also be a problem if you are afraid family and friends will hack your account and do something.  I personally wouldn't trust my grandpa.

  • Daffid011Daffid011 Member UncommonPosts: 7,945

    It wouldn't hurt for blizzard to make this an option.   Some people play at public locations or shared computers.  Very small risk, but it wouldn't hurt to allow players to toggle this off if they want to use their authenticator every time they log in. 

  • jado818jado818 Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 356

    Originally posted by bansan

    This would only be a problem if you mainly played at an internet cafe or some public place.  In that case, someone could target you I guess.

    It could also be a problem if you are afraid family and friends will hack your account and do something.  I personally wouldn't trust my grandpa.

    Just keep him locked in the basement when you go out ;D

  • snotgobbsnotgobb Member UncommonPosts: 4

    OMG blizzard has copied rift's log in security. CLONE?

  • ShadoedShadoed Member UncommonPosts: 1,459

    Originally posted by Lienhart

    You're not very smart are you OP? lol

    Your peace in mind != the right thing to do.

    Maybe Blizzard should have written a course called "Internet architecture for dummies".

     Obviously not, have only worked in IT development, support and testing for 24 years, know nothing of keylogging, IP masking, network hi-jacking or anything like that, complete and utter novice, what the hell was i thinking.

    In terms of 'right thing to do', how is it peace of mind if i don't like the move and don't feel 'as safe' (not the same as unsafe) as i did before?

    Interestingly, Blizzard still require you to enter your authenticator code if you manage your account or even log into the forums (although pretty much one and the same now) so they still see that as an essential measure?

    The reason they have given for this change is to make it less annoying to the users, but as a user i believe that it should be my choice about whether i want that inconveniance (not that i ever found it to be one anyway) or not.

    It must be Thursday, i never could get the hang of Thursdays.

  • KniknaxKniknax Member UncommonPosts: 576

    Originally posted by snotgobb

    OMG blizzard has copied rift's log in security. CLONE?

    Yep, and it wont be long till a WoW fan plays Rift and then posts about how they have ripped off WoW's security :D

    "When people don't know much about something, they tend to fill in the blanks the way they want them to be filled in. They are almost always disappointed." - Will Wright

  • NeikoNeiko Member UncommonPosts: 626

    This seems fine, as long as they have an option for it. Which from what I'm reading, they do not.

  • SigilaeaSigilaea Member Posts: 317

    Originally posted by DAHBOO

    you still have the same security without the pain in the a$$ authenticator on your home computer, unless the hacker comes into your house.....whats the problem here??

    The problem is that some people play ont heir laptops (like me). So if a thief gets your laptop, he has your account too. I don't permanently store anything on my local machine to prevent a thief from getting my bank accounts/game accounts/etc...

  • RageaholRageahol Member UncommonPosts: 1,127

    Its fine for me , but the anger storm that will happen once someone get their account hacked...When they have the Authenticator...it will not go down well

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  • bansanbansan Member Posts: 367

    Originally posted by jason_webb

    *snip*

    The reason they have given for this change is to make it less annoying to the users, but as a user i believe that it should be my choice about whether i want that inconveniance (not that i ever found it to be one anyway) or not.

    Goes with the territory of having a minority opinion.  I don't think I'm going on a limb by saying most people don't have a problem with this change, though obviously I could be wrong.

    Since you seem to be highly educated in IT, could you tell what exact situations can happen that are making you feel less safe?  If it is just an emotional reaction not based primarily on your professional IT opinion...then it's my emotional reaction that i don't think Blizzard should spend time and money to give you the comfort choice.

  • skeaserskeaser Member RarePosts: 4,205

    Originally posted by Sigilaea

    Originally posted by DAHBOO

    you still have the same security without the pain in the a$$ authenticator on your home computer, unless the hacker comes into your house.....whats the problem here??

    The problem is that some people play ont heir laptops (like me). So if a thief gets your laptop, he has your account too. I don't permanently store anything on my local machine to prevent a thief from getting my bank accounts/game accounts/etc...

    Yes, damn those crafty Chinese gold farmers who have now teamed up with local hood-rats to steal your laptop so they can use your password without using an authenticator so they can shard your epix.

    Sig so that badges don't eat my posts.


  • marinridermarinrider Member UncommonPosts: 1,556

    This sould be an option.  If I still played WoW then I would prefer to have to input it all the time to keep sneaky people like say a brother or a roommate from looking over my shoulder.  I dont think it would hurt to make it an option.

  • Ramonski7Ramonski7 Member UncommonPosts: 2,662

    Originally posted by Sigilaea

    Originally posted by DAHBOO

    you still have the same security without the pain in the a$$ authenticator on your home computer, unless the hacker comes into your house.....whats the problem here??

    The problem is that some people play ont heir laptops (like me). So if a thief gets your laptop, he has your account too. I don't permanently store anything on my local machine to prevent a thief from getting my bank accounts/game accounts/etc...

    But they still would have to know your username and password no? Unless of course you keep it as a word doc located on your laptop's desktop. But I'm sure their system is not as simple as some people would lead you to believe, I mean come on now. This ain't Sony we're talking about! image

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  • britzbanbritzban Member UncommonPosts: 260

    Originally posted by jason_webb

    Originally posted by Lienhart

    You're not very smart are you OP? lol

    Your peace in mind != the right thing to do.

    Maybe Blizzard should have written a course called "Internet architecture for dummies".

     Obviously not, have only worked in IT development, support and testing for 24 years, know nothing of keylogging, IP masking, network hi-jacking or anything like that, complete and utter novice, what the hell was i thinking.

    In terms of 'right thing to do', how is it peace of mind if i don't like the move and don't feel 'as safe' (not the same as unsafe) as i did before?

    Interestingly, Blizzard still require you to enter your authenticator code if you manage your account or even log into the forums (although pretty much one and the same now) so they still see that as an essential measure?

    The reason they have given for this change is to make it less annoying to the users, but as a user i believe that it should be my choice about whether i want that inconveniance (not that i ever found it to be one anyway) or not.

     

    Sorry you made me lol.   If someone is going to be keylogging, IP masking, network hi-jacking asyou say...they will be able to crack your authenticator code.  You should know that all security is moot if someone truly wants to hack you.   I am sure that the new changes are just as secure.  It probably verifies mac address and ip address which yes, can all be spoofed but is just as secure as the authenticator imo.

  • RazeronRazeron Member Posts: 180

    Tying it to system hardware and geographical location is pretty fool proof.

     

    Though I would suggest personally not having it tied to any email account but a cell instead, I don't think the infrastucture is in place for something like that though. (Not to mention, not everybody has, or wants a cell phone.)

  • ShadoedShadoed Member UncommonPosts: 1,459

    Originally posted by Lienhart

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     I understand people could care less if i was a tap dancing lion tamer even and just FYI i am not 'jobless,' i work for a national retailer as a software release manager, but again why would you care about that!

    Personal petty attacks aside, as Britzban said above, if someone really wants to get to your system/account there is little that can really stop them but at least the authenticator was giving you a better chance as so far it had not been circumvented with any major success due to the short term rotating code. Even when some had got around it, it was only very temporary and easily recovered from if they were logged off fast enough.

    Looking at the official forums there is a big no camp for this change and also those that feel it may be no biggie, but the general feel is that it should have been an option, not a forced change.

    It must be Thursday, i never could get the hang of Thursdays.

  • RequiamerRequiamer Member Posts: 2,034

    Can you guys tell them to stop spamming my email box with their security crap already, i just played the trial for an hour for god sake. And since then i got spammed every fucking single day. I mean i just hope the RMT dude that got this account will play at his home and not move at least... That would save my day.

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