I liked E&B alot, and enjoyed Auto Assault, and thought Tabula Rasa was good, but needed more content, all 3 of these games deserved more time or a move to the freemium model.
Thanks for the link to the E&B emulator Saarosen, going to check it out right now.
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I still miss AC2. Ive never forgiven turbine for shutting it down and refuse to ever touch another of there games. It especially annoys me since AC2 had more players up till they pulled the plug than AC1 has now and they still have AC1 up with no sign of closing it down.
Yeah I loved Auto Assault. PVP has never really made me excited thou. I'm not saying PVP isn't good. It's usually I prefer PVE. That's what I liked about AA. But if AA had a good PVP part to go with a good PVE I probably would have tried it. Nothing like car carnage. Still I need to give PVP it's fair shot to see if I would end up liking it.
I remember seeing a big van or something in Auto Assault that was totalled named AAA.
I remember getting interested in TR by the advertising for the game and then time passed and I was like did the game even come out yet and now in this article I hear it's been out and closed down already.
Tabula Rasa was always my fall back game and it still would be if it was around. Whenever I had a weekend off work I would call my friend up and have him resub and we would take a few bases on a random planet and fight wave after wave of enemies, sometimes hundreds. Just us two and a couple of straglers who decided to stay and fight the war.
It was an amazing game, if only they had developed the game as its later futuristic self from the start and then the game code might not have been so terrible. Seriously, did anyone ever see the game on low graphics? It looked like an N64 game and still lagged like hell.
I never had the graphics problem because ive had the same computer I built back in my senior year of high school, But the game could still be around today if NCsoft had allowed it.
In fact, right before the game ended they rolled out multiple epic patches including a Trip back to Earth and Mechs! They named epic gear after players, had great in game social events, and clan battles got things going PvP wise.
The game was a sci-fi roleplayers dream and it wasnt even a sandbox. I remember a giant base in the mountains where a spaceship would fly in through the roof and hover over a giant landing pad in the middle of the base. Me and my RP clan of Mercenaries made that our main RP spot and spend hours just talking with people, getting in duels with other clans, the game really did have something special.
Give me another decent original sci-fi game like Tabula Rasa, its not that much to ask is it?
The only people who liked AC2 were the brainwashed themepark can huggers who came over from other games. Real Asherson's Call fans stomacked it because they loved AC so much and hoped for so much more but gave up on it very eary on.
The reality of AC 2 is that is was a slap in the face to AC 1 players and was an attempt to jump on the EQ bandwagon by new MS/Turbine leadership which had nothing to do with the original game. AC2 was as much a sequal to AC as liver and onions is to apple pie.
Mentioning AC2 in the same breath as AC is an insult to humanity.
I am still very confused how ANYONE could fail with a MMO based on the Matrix... It practically writes it self... You don't even have to invent a reason to explain why there are game mechanics... The movies have done that for you.
Still that was one crappy game and SoE is in no way to blame for it's death... Blame WB for that if anything.
I thought Tabula Rasa was a great game. I was shocked that most mmo players didn't get into it. What a waste.
I enjoyed TR, too, but content was lacking, crafting was horrible, armor diversity was "meh", and so it was pretty much a full time shoot-em-up.
That can be fun, and tactically it was pretty interesting, but there's only so long you can stay amused with a combat, combat, and more combat game.
I am not sure I agree. I have watched Call of Duty: Black Ops remain the #1 game in sales for over a year and it is 110% combat (after you finish the somewhat-limited solo game). I think it shows you CAN have a 100% combat game.
I played and miss all 5 of those in the list. EnB was definately the one I most missed though, enough for me to do some research not long ago where I came upon.... http://forum.enb-emulator.com/
The game is alive again and being worked on and supported through community contributions. It certainly seemed far more like eye-candy back in the day, but still a very enjoyable game. I think they even came up with some custom races not available with release version, but I have not tried them out.
If Earth & Beyond came back today and had a dedicated development/publishing team, I would pay $80 for the collector's edition client and $15 a month to play it, dated graphics and all...
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Out of the list the only two that I ever dabbled with was Tabula Rasa, and Asheron's Call II. The rest I have no clue about. It is a shame to see a game come to an end but it does happen, and sometimes it needs to happen I.E. Asheron's Call II.
I thought Tabula Rasa was a great game. I was shocked that most mmo players didn't get into it. What a waste.
I enjoyed TR, too, but content was lacking, crafting was horrible, armor diversity was "meh", and so it was pretty much a full time shoot-em-up.
That can be fun, and tactically it was pretty interesting, but there's only so long you can stay amused with a combat, combat, and more combat game.
I am not sure I agree. I have watched Call of Duty: Black Ops remain the #1 game in sales for over a year and it is 110% combat (after you finish the somewhat-limited solo game). I think it shows you CAN have a 100% combat game.
Tabula Rasa was a great game! But due to the ongoing political war between Richard Garriott and NCSoft, there was no passion and no clear leadership moving the game forward.
It's a real shame, as the story was bloody interesting and very engaging, combat was great and the Dynamic mob spawns and air drops were just the best no other MMO to date ever matched!
The most sad part is, that it didn't got shut down due to lack of players. It just got shut down by NCSoft due to their hatred against Richard Garriott. /sigh
I thought Tabula Rasa was a great game. I was shocked that most mmo players didn't get into it. What a waste.
I enjoyed TR, too, but content was lacking, crafting was horrible, armor diversity was "meh", and so it was pretty much a full time shoot-em-up.
That can be fun, and tactically it was pretty interesting, but there's only so long you can stay amused with a combat, combat, and more combat game.
I am not sure I agree. I have watched Call of Duty: Black Ops remain the #1 game in sales for over a year and it is 110% combat (after you finish the somewhat-limited solo game). I think it shows you CAN have a 100% combat game.
Tabula Rasa was a great game! But due to the ongoing political war between Richard Garriott and NCSoft, there was no passion and no clear leadership moving the game forward.
It's a real shame, as the story was bloody interesting and very engaging, combat was great and the Dynamic mob spawns and air drops were just the best no other MMO to date ever matched!
The most sad part is, that it didn't got shut down due to lack of players. It just got shut down by NCSoft due to their hatred against Richard Garriott. /sigh
And this is why to this day I don't trust NCSOFT or anybody who has anything to do with them. They showed that would rather give a middle finger to the face of their players, just to fire somebody. If they did it once they will do it again.
was an early on beta tester for Auto Assault, knew it wouldnt make it very far. It just never felt like it would make it. I guess it may have been just too far ahead of its time.
TR and Matrix are two that I'm sorry I never got a chance to play.
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The only people who liked AC2 were the brainwashed themepark can huggers who came over from other games. Real Asherson's Call fans stomacked it because they loved AC so much and hoped for so much more but gave up on it very eary on.
The reality of AC 2 is that is was a slap in the face to AC 1 players and was an attempt to jump on the EQ bandwagon by new MS/Turbine leadership which had nothing to do with the original game. AC2 was as much a sequal to AC as liver and onions is to apple pie.
Mentioning AC2 in the same breath as AC is an insult to humanity.
See the thing is people wanted AC2 to be just like AC only with better graphics. If they had done that then what would have been the point in keeping AC1 running? They wanted both games to be out there, it was never meant to be AC1 only better.
I've been saying it for sometime now, I wish Turbine would bring AC2 back as a F2P game. I liked AC2 better than DDO. If DDO can be saved by going to F2P then they can make money off AC2.
I thought Tabula Rasa was a great game. I was shocked that most mmo players didn't get into it. What a waste.
I enjoyed TR, too, but content was lacking, crafting was horrible, armor diversity was "meh", and so it was pretty much a full time shoot-em-up.
That can be fun, and tactically it was pretty interesting, but there's only so long you can stay amused with a combat, combat, and more combat game.
I am not sure I agree. I have watched Call of Duty: Black Ops remain the #1 game in sales for over a year and it is 110% combat (after you finish the somewhat-limited solo game). I think it shows you CAN have a 100% combat game.
Tabula Rasa was a great game! But due to the ongoing political war between Richard Garriott and NCSoft, there was no passion and no clear leadership moving the game forward.
It's a real shame, as the story was bloody interesting and very engaging, combat was great and the Dynamic mob spawns and air drops were just the best no other MMO to date ever matched!
The most sad part is, that it didn't got shut down due to lack of players. It just got shut down by NCSoft due to their hatred against Richard Garriott. /sigh
And this is why to this day I don't trust NCSOFT or anybody who has anything to do with them. They showed that would rather give a middle finger to the face of their players, just to fire somebody. If they did it once they will do it again.
Don't get me wrong. They had plenty of reason to hate Richard Garriott and fire him.
But the game itself wouldn't have to suffer from it. They could have easily kept it going, improve and expand on it and makes something great out of it.
I mean.... City of Heroes has been low on subs for years (it has basically less subs, than TR had before it got shut down) and they still keep it going.
But appearently their hatred and issues with Richard Garriott were so deep, that they didn't want to continue with the game and just shut it down for all the wrong reasons!
And for that I totally agree with you. I hate NCSoft too, don't trust them and find them very unprofessional.
EnB was so unique.. I never got to endgame and never saw anything like boss fights.. but the game was just fun and relaxing to play. The controls and flight just felt ´perfect´... I really love the graphics too.. I still remember my ship name.. The Exodus.... in honor of my leaving UO for EnB.
Some of the others on lhe list i tried, but they were more hype than fun. TR in particular was never fun for me. I played it because of RG and all the craziness outside the game, but in the game it was just not fun.
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I liked E&B alot, and enjoyed Auto Assault, and thought Tabula Rasa was good, but needed more content, all 3 of these games deserved more time or a move to the freemium model.
Thanks for the link to the E&B emulator Saarosen, going to check it out right now.
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Thank you for adding Auto Assualt to that list... although I feel it should have been #1.
Was a great game. Was very sad to see it go.
I still miss AC2. Ive never forgiven turbine for shutting it down and refuse to ever touch another of there games. It especially annoys me since AC2 had more players up till they pulled the plug than AC1 has now and they still have AC1 up with no sign of closing it down.
Yeah I loved Auto Assault. PVP has never really made me excited thou. I'm not saying PVP isn't good. It's usually I prefer PVE. That's what I liked about AA. But if AA had a good PVP part to go with a good PVE I probably would have tried it. Nothing like car carnage. Still I need to give PVP it's fair shot to see if I would end up liking it.
I remember seeing a big van or something in Auto Assault that was totalled named AAA.
I thought Tabula Rasa was a great game. I was shocked that most mmo players didn't get into it. What a waste.
On the other hand, I can think a few mmos that should have been cancelled, but unfortantely for the genre, they're still around.
I enjoyed TR, too, but content was lacking, crafting was horrible, armor diversity was "meh", and so it was pretty much a full time shoot-em-up.
That can be fun, and tactically it was pretty interesting, but there's only so long you can stay amused with a combat, combat, and more combat game.
I remember getting interested in TR by the advertising for the game and then time passed and I was like did the game even come out yet and now in this article I hear it's been out and closed down already.
Tabula Rasa was always my fall back game and it still would be if it was around. Whenever I had a weekend off work I would call my friend up and have him resub and we would take a few bases on a random planet and fight wave after wave of enemies, sometimes hundreds. Just us two and a couple of straglers who decided to stay and fight the war.
It was an amazing game, if only they had developed the game as its later futuristic self from the start and then the game code might not have been so terrible. Seriously, did anyone ever see the game on low graphics? It looked like an N64 game and still lagged like hell.
I never had the graphics problem because ive had the same computer I built back in my senior year of high school, But the game could still be around today if NCsoft had allowed it.
In fact, right before the game ended they rolled out multiple epic patches including a Trip back to Earth and Mechs! They named epic gear after players, had great in game social events, and clan battles got things going PvP wise.
The game was a sci-fi roleplayers dream and it wasnt even a sandbox. I remember a giant base in the mountains where a spaceship would fly in through the roof and hover over a giant landing pad in the middle of the base. Me and my RP clan of Mercenaries made that our main RP spot and spend hours just talking with people, getting in duels with other clans, the game really did have something special.
Give me another decent original sci-fi game like Tabula Rasa, its not that much to ask is it?
The only people who liked AC2 were the brainwashed themepark can huggers who came over from other games. Real Asherson's Call fans stomacked it because they loved AC so much and hoped for so much more but gave up on it very eary on.
The reality of AC 2 is that is was a slap in the face to AC 1 players and was an attempt to jump on the EQ bandwagon by new MS/Turbine leadership which had nothing to do with the original game. AC2 was as much a sequal to AC as liver and onions is to apple pie.
Mentioning AC2 in the same breath as AC is an insult to humanity.
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I am still very confused how ANYONE could fail with a MMO based on the Matrix... It practically writes it self... You don't even have to invent a reason to explain why there are game mechanics... The movies have done that for you.
Still that was one crappy game and SoE is in no way to blame for it's death... Blame WB for that if anything.
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I am not sure I agree. I have watched Call of Duty: Black Ops remain the #1 game in sales for over a year and it is 110% combat (after you finish the somewhat-limited solo game). I think it shows you CAN have a 100% combat game.
I played and miss all 5 of those in the list. EnB was definately the one I most missed though, enough for me to do some research not long ago where I came upon.... http://forum.enb-emulator.com/
The game is alive again and being worked on and supported through community contributions. It certainly seemed far more like eye-candy back in the day, but still a very enjoyable game. I think they even came up with some custom races not available with release version, but I have not tried them out.
If Earth & Beyond came back today and had a dedicated development/publishing team, I would pay $80 for the collector's edition client and $15 a month to play it, dated graphics and all...
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Out of the list the only two that I ever dabbled with was Tabula Rasa, and Asheron's Call II. The rest I have no clue about. It is a shame to see a game come to an end but it does happen, and sometimes it needs to happen I.E. Asheron's Call II.
Tabula Rasa was a great game! But due to the ongoing political war between Richard Garriott and NCSoft, there was no passion and no clear leadership moving the game forward.
It's a real shame, as the story was bloody interesting and very engaging, combat was great and the Dynamic mob spawns and air drops were just the best no other MMO to date ever matched!
The most sad part is, that it didn't got shut down due to lack of players. It just got shut down by NCSoft due to their hatred against Richard Garriott. /sigh
And this is why to this day I don't trust NCSOFT or anybody who has anything to do with them. They showed that would rather give a middle finger to the face of their players, just to fire somebody. If they did it once they will do it again.
was an early on beta tester for Auto Assault, knew it wouldnt make it very far. It just never felt like it would make it. I guess it may have been just too far ahead of its time.
My favorites: Auto Assault & Tabula Rasa
TR and Matrix are two that I'm sorry I never got a chance to play.
See the thing is people wanted AC2 to be just like AC only with better graphics. If they had done that then what would have been the point in keeping AC1 running? They wanted both games to be out there, it was never meant to be AC1 only better.
I've been saying it for sometime now, I wish Turbine would bring AC2 back as a F2P game. I liked AC2 better than DDO. If DDO can be saved by going to F2P then they can make money off AC2.
Don't get me wrong. They had plenty of reason to hate Richard Garriott and fire him.
But the game itself wouldn't have to suffer from it. They could have easily kept it going, improve and expand on it and makes something great out of it.
I mean.... City of Heroes has been low on subs for years (it has basically less subs, than TR had before it got shut down) and they still keep it going.
But appearently their hatred and issues with Richard Garriott were so deep, that they didn't want to continue with the game and just shut it down for all the wrong reasons!
And for that I totally agree with you. I hate NCSoft too, don't trust them and find them very unprofessional.
EnB was so unique.. I never got to endgame and never saw anything like boss fights.. but the game was just fun and relaxing to play. The controls and flight just felt ´perfect´... I really love the graphics too.. I still remember my ship name.. The Exodus.... in honor of my leaving UO for EnB.
Some of the others on lhe list i tried, but they were more hype than fun. TR in particular was never fun for me. I played it because of RG and all the craziness outside the game, but in the game it was just not fun.