Originally posted by Unshra How about their most recent blog: http://blog.perpetuum-online.com/posts/2011-06-24-this-summer-part-2/ Or if you're too lazy (note the bolding is from them not me just straight copy and paste): "As mentioned in the first part of this blog, this will be a microtransaction feature: for a small fee youll be able to purchase packages of multiple paintjob tokens that you can use to finalize colors on your robot. The exact pricing is yet to be announced, but since robots are pretty short-lived and packing one will also make it revert to its default color (just like paint decay), it probably wont be too heavy on your wallets. (And refreshing an old paintjob with the same color will be probably for free.)" Or how about the blog before that: http://blog.perpetuum-online.com/posts/2011-06-06-this-summer-part-1/ Again if you need help locating it: "The current list of things you will be able to purchase with EC includes mission ammo, Niani modules, possibly some prototypes, and *drumroll* ...robot paint. (And sorry to burst your bubble right away, but the sooner you know the better: paintjobs will be tied into microtransactions for a small fee, because we're greedy capitalist pigdogs - details about paintjobs will come in part 2 of this post.)"
Really is no secret and it's not hard to find just take two minutes and click the most recent blogs. Anyways like I said I respect that they are clear about what they plan.
Then I can add from other blog:
The energy must flowThose who are familiar with the backstory of Perpetuum are probably well aware that we are here to exploit the energy of the planet and send it back to hungry Earth via that same wormhole, which we used to get our tiny sparks to Nia. You were probably also wondering where in the game do we do that?. Well, currently nowhere since we are still at the early stage of setting foot, but this is soon going to change. Well be intruducing a new energy-credit system which will work a bit like a second currency. These energy-credits (lets call it EC for the time being) will be awarded to those who contribute to the energy-packages that will be periodically sent back to Earth by the Syndicate.Youll be able to achieve this via two ways, one PvE and one PvP option:Using fragments of a rare kind of crystalline material, which can be charged with energy and can be found through artifact scanning mentioned above, you have to go out to shiny energy fields, deploy the crystal and wait until its fully charged, then return it to a terminal. Of course indigenous Nians also like to be around these energy-rich areas, so you wont have an easy time doing this. Own an outpost with a corporation which is producing the energy for you. So what will EC be good for? New modules, rare components used in Mk2 robot production, CTs available only here... you know, stuff. The details are still being worked on but were confident that this system coupled with artifact scanning will give a nice boost to what you can do in the game.
What you are seeing now is the result of many people LOVING this game.
There is nothing else even CLOSE to eve in terms of complexity, intensity, and honestly in terms of longevity and playability. Many of us have been playing for 7+ years, and I can say that quite honestly there are still days when it is just as enthralling as it was back when I started.
The protests you have been seeing are coming from the heart. Anyone who knows the game understands that a cash shop for non-vanity items will kill the economy, and the economy is at the heart of everything in eve. It is the reason pvp feels "real" in the game.. losses matter, resources are fought over and hard won.
PLEX/GTC are basically a way for those with less time to play to "barter" game time for ISK. That ISK still gets spent largely on player produced goods and services. PLEX provided what I think is a pretty ingenious solution to a difficult problem. Not the same as MT at all.
I have unsubscribed my accounts in protest... just to let CCP know how serious this issue is. If they go ahead with non-vanity MT, yes I will go and stay gone. BUT... I don't really see any other option that would be remotely interesting after eve online. I'm hoping CCP hears all of the loyal players loud and clear and doesn't screw this up. Hell, I'd even pay a higher monthly sub if that's what it takes to preserve the game as it is. All the people in that "unsubbed" thread (including myself) would most likely be back in a heartbeat if CCP does ONE THING: promises no MT for non-vanity items. EVER.
I think one thing we can all agree on is that Eve is changing. Some people like the change, some people are only dimly aware that a change is taking place and some are up in arms about it.
It seems to happen to most MMOs. Judging by the leaked documents from ccp, they're aware of what they are doing and have faith in the fact that people will still buy their product(s). I must admit it takes a certain amount of fearlessness to stay on this course, but I've noted the ironic lack of fearlessness when it comes to dealing with their current subscribers, a trait that may or may not serve them well with a different, pay as you play, subscriber base.
I used to like EVE, but I can't argue that it is basically like playing Excel with some sort of spacey background on my desktop. I'm surprised it has held together so well for so long honestly.
I might not fully understand this, but what I understand is something about a monocle, and it's making players leave.
To me it seems a bit too dramatic to leave a game because of a monocle. C'mon, folks, it's a monocle. You don't have to buy it or anything else that they are selling for real life money. I don't quite understand the big fuzz about this monocle, and I'm not sure I ever will, but I still think people should calm down. There's no reason to leave a game you like, just because they sell a monocle.
I might not fully understand this, but what I understand is something about a monocle, and it's making players leave.
To me it seems a bit too dramatic to leave a game because of a monocle. C'mon, folks, it's a monocle. You don't have to buy it or anything else that they are selling for real life money. I don't quite understand the big fuzz about this monocle, and I'm not sure I ever will, but I still think people should calm down. There's no reason to leave a game you like, just because they sell a monocle.
It's the principle of the situation smokey.
But yeah on a serious note, principle. I think most of us bought these games expecting everything to do with that game to be included in said subscription. The more people give, the more they push. Most people don't have principle and most people just let what's going to happen whether it's right or not until it really does effect them ...by then it's too late.
Monocle today, who knows what tomorrow. Nothing like spending your subscription dollar to have them create an item you have to pay extra for ....
I see the MASS EXODUS is continuing. Many are leaving for that uhh. other game!
Tsk, tsk.. Monocles anyone?
I erased EVE from my hard Drive today. It wont be coming back.
CCP no longer cares about its player base,its true! Especially after the comments CCP made.
When you have a game that ifnores its player base all for the $$$$. Its time to move on.. As such I did. Along with some friends.. Goon,BCINC, RF, .. yup.. we are all leaving.
Thanks CCP!
You'll be back, don't worry, we'll leave the light on.
Kyleran, I have always liked your posts and I believe from most of them that you are a fairly intelligent person etc etc ad nasuem and have agreed with most of you points in the past.
But this sounds like a WoW player comment. Is the exodus going to impact EvE? I have no idea nor do I care honsetly at this point. The CCP Corp said said "If you don't like it STFU and leave" Sooo... alot of people are leaving. many will return yes. Probably will return whether or not anything changes or not. BUT MANY will not return. Alot of people myself included didn't know anything about PO. It is actually pretty damn cool and it is a fresh start akin to when EvE was young.
I wont return to EvE. I don't care what CCP does it just isn't in the cards. Turns out there is a decent sandbox out there worth playing and with OCT / NOV rolling up with all the new games coming out EvE goes even farther on the backburner. With 100's of millions of SPs on my characters / accounts already I can go a year or more wthout even worrying about my skill que.... so not training is really irrelavnt now isn;t it. So why keep a sub going for training only????????? PASS on that.
In essence, don't leave the light on to long. Electric bills nowadays are pretty insane. And I get the feeling CCP might have an income deficit soon. But then again , they could always sell those energy efficient light bulbs in the cash shop.
PS if you liked Mech Warrior and you liked EvE pvp ...you might jsut like PO.. food for thought dude.
Sigh, tongue in cheek humor never translates well, even when you try to throw in an emoticon or two.
But seriously, most of you will be back once you realize the sky isn't falling.
Now, if you really mean it, please forward all your stuff to my attention and delete your characters. (or give them to me if they are captial/dread pilots, I'll pay your transfer fees)
PO might be a nice game, but you do realize a cash shop is in it's future right? In fact, there is no where for you to run cash shops/microtransactions are invevitable in every game, just a matter of how they'll be implemented.
Perhaps this outcry will discourage those people in CCP who were considering selling items of power no matter how tempting it might be, but the cash shop is here to stay.
Edit, and if you're leaving, would you please log off, because EVEMON is telling me there are 44538 pilots logged into EVE right now.... I'm waiting for the crowds to die down a bit myself. (and someone keep outbidding me in Amarr in the market, tell them EVE's dead and please take them with you)
By the way, calling me a WOW player might be accurate, there was a time I played some WOW, almost 2 years worth, so I guess some of that slips into my commentaries on occasion.
Heh I hear you Kyleran. I played wow for years myself as a nutcase raider, and am guilty of the "you will be back" comments myself. Prolly what got my goat and made me post. I might come back to EvE who knows. But I am liking PO so far so at worst I have something new to play along with the other games I play so win win. If not then at least I got a new one I found so far to keep me busy etc.
Personaly I hope CCP comes out OK irregardless if I play it or not. It is a one of a kind experience in a sea of herp derp games nowadays.
Yeah PO is going to have a cash shop. Paintjobs and such. I can handle that, not that I will use it mind you. The fun right now is the server had it's pecking order all set up already and now with this influx of New Eden refugees the status quo is completely shook up and the pre influx corps are getting really nervous. The new kids on the block are currently in the biggest corp and still growing on the server, the soon to come explosive war about to blow up for the territoy will keep me occupied and having fun for a good bit to come :)P
Then again by the time that explodes my lil mech will prolly have to hit the cash shop cause my paintjob will be trashed
Anyone who knows the game understands that a cash shop for non-vanity items will kill the economy
That isn't true and anyone saying that has no clue...
I don't know you, so I don't know your history with eve. I can imagine your point of view seeming valid if you are one of those players who sees the game as nothing more than PVP interrupted by scraping together enough ISK to get back to PVP.
If you enjoy the longer term aspects of the game, corporation building/ alliance building, industry/ research, essentially everything that makes eve the great "human nature laboratory" that it is.... I can't imagine missing how obvious the injury (and insult) to the player driven economy is when you provide an means for players to circumvent it entirely. Eve has the best PVP on the planet- and that is because you are fighting with gear and for resources that you have put a lot of thought and (really enjoyable) time into obtaining.
ALL of eve is PVP in fact.. market, manufacturing, even exploration. If you can't grasp what I'm talking about, then you should at least understand this: non-vanity items being sold in a cash shop in eve will DEFINITELY destroy eve as we know it, because players like myself that have happily paid for multiple accounts for many years will be gone for good.
Originally posted by ExplodingPod If you can't grasp what I'm talking about
I can grasp it, and I am telling you it isn't truth because I am not wearing blind folders made of false illusion of self-importance.
The game won't die because you leave. Does it make EVE different? Sure, EVE is constantly evolving - being "destroyed as we know it", and people leaving are just part of the process, just today is your turn.
would be lovely if anyone could share some REAL infos about the prob to an outsider.
eve online now has a store where you can buy clothers and accesoires for your avatar, that's what i got. but how could this be a problem? ^^
Thane, many players in EVE have played a long time. Throughout that time we the players ran the economy, the alliances, wars.. virtually many aspects of the game. With the store coming out they killed that. Its not just vanity items they plan on selling. But useful items and skills ect. The game is no longer a player ran game but soon a item shop game.
Also, dont think Sony doesnt have a play in this. There is a reason DUST514 is PS3 only. As far as Sony goes, all one has to do is talk to a old Star Wars Galaxies Vet. Anything Sony touches goes to dooky after a bit.
So when the world comes to an end next year will that be Sony's fault too?
I can grasp it, and I am telling you it isn't truth because I am not wearing blind folders made of false illusion of self-importance.
The game won't die because you leave. Does it make EVE different? Sure, EVE is constantly evolving - being "destroyed as we know it", and people leaving are just part of the process, just today is your turn.
For someone who isn't self important, you sure seem to like to hear yourself talk... and lucky for us, you apparently have an opinion about pretty much everything.
You seem to feel that you have a better understanding of recent events than the thousands of game veterans who have been posting and protesting about MT and what they mean for the game. Many people, including myself, feel that the game will no longer be worth playing if CCP introduces a non-vanity cash shop. This will be a shame if it happens, because as far as I know there's nothing else like it... nor is there likely to be in the near future.
I see the MASS EXODUS is continuing. Many are leaving for that uhh. other game!
Tsk, tsk.. Monocles anyone?
I erased EVE from my hard Drive today. It wont be coming back.
CCP no longer cares about its player base,its true! Especially after the comments CCP made.
When you have a game that ignores its player base all for the $$$$. Its time to move on.. As such I did. Along with some friends.. Goon,BCINC, RF, .. yup.. we are all leaving.
Thanks CCP!
1. Currenty 40,000+ are playing EvE right now and as of this week when I play (CST) there are always about 30,000+ on during prime time hours. So you logic is FAIL!
2. MASS EXODUS LOL!!!! HA! AHHH HA! HA! HA! LOLZ!!!!
3. Can I have your stuff?
4. Don't feed the trolls people!
the truly hillarious.. and somehow deeply ironic part of it.. is that people are trying to get Eve players to switch to perpetuum.. a game which has, or at least has announced that it is allowing the purchase via MT, of none vanity items, ammo, robots, paint jobs, etc.. for their game.. yup.. you just can't make stuff up funnier than that
Never heard of Perpetuum but after look at their site its an EvE clone with a cash shop. This whole EvE scenario has to be the biggest documented case of nerd rage ever. LOL!
You seem to feel that you have a better understanding of recent events than the thousands of game veterans who have been posting and protesting about MT and what they mean for the game. Many people, including myself, feel that the game will no longer be worth playing if CCP introduces a non-vanity cash shop. This will be a shame if it happens, because as far as I know there's nothing else like it... nor is there likely to be in the near future.
Of course I do because my understanding isn't based on emotions, unlike those 'thousands' of disgruntled players who put a 'vet' sticker on their forehead thinking they are better and know better than anyone else, CCP included.
On one hand you complain that CCP isn't listening, on the other you act like spoiled and not-so-bright kid. The amount of rage is absurd and unreasonable.
I fully endorse what CCP is doing, because the forum 'community' isn't a representative sample for player population and any game dev should focus on what players do, rather than say - the game and revenue will be way better than.
Non-vanity items will fit the game well. The game is perfectly ready for them anyway and has long been.
The 'many' people/revenue who leave because of MT will be easily replaced by those who will come because of MT.
Perpetuum isn't as epic as Eve right now, but it is very close to early Eve online - before it evolved into the game it is now.
One thing I will say about Perpetuum, is that it provides a combat dynamic that is lacking in Eve. WASD movement and using terrain as cover is what makes this a more enjoyable game than Eve to me.
I see the MASS EXODUS is continuing. Many are leaving for that uhh. other game!
Tsk, tsk.. Monocles anyone?
I erased EVE from my hard Drive today. It wont be coming back.
CCP no longer cares about its player base,its true! Especially after the comments CCP made.
When you have a game that ignores its player base all for the $$$$. Its time to move on.. As such I did. Along with some friends.. Goon,BCINC, RF, .. yup.. we are all leaving.
Thanks CCP!
If people like you leave over this, I'd say good riddance.
I see the MASS EXODUS is continuing. Many are leaving for that uhh. other game!
Tsk, tsk.. Monocles anyone?
I erased EVE from my hard Drive today. It wont be coming back.
CCP no longer cares about its player base,its true! Especially after the comments CCP made.
When you have a game that ignores its player base all for the $$$$. Its time to move on.. As such I did. Along with some friends.. Goon,BCINC, RF, .. yup.. we are all leaving.
Thanks CCP!
If people like you leave over this, I'd say good riddance.
Too quote a band I like (MSP):
"If we tolerate this your children will be next!"
I don't play EVE but I support the rebels on this one. Nice to see a community finnaly come up for there rights and claim the things they were promised by there Gods. Too many time I´ve seen this in MMOland and only EVE seems to pull off a decent whip back at the dev´s. Kuddos to you all, fight the good fight!!!
You seem to feel that you have a better understanding of recent events than the thousands of game veterans who have been posting and protesting about MT and what they mean for the game. Many people, including myself, feel that the game will no longer be worth playing if CCP introduces a non-vanity cash shop. This will be a shame if it happens, because as far as I know there's nothing else like it... nor is there likely to be in the near future.
Of course I do because my understanding isn't based on emotions, unlike those 'thousands' of disgruntled players who put a 'vet' sticker on their forehead thinking they are better and know better than anyone else, CCP included.
On one hand you complain that CCP isn't listening, on the other you act like spoiled and not-so-bright kid. The amount of rage is absurd and unreasonable.
I fully endorse what CCP is doing, because the forum 'community' isn't a representative sample for player population and any game dev should focus on what players do, rather than say - the game and revenue will be way better than.
Non-vanity items will fit the game well. The game is perfectly ready for them anyway and has long been.
The 'many' people/revenue who leave because of MT will be easily replaced by those who will come because of MT.
As EVE saying goes - Adapt or die.
If you take time to actually read what many of the long time players are writing about this situation you'll see that "rage" doesn't really apply. The only emotions I see regularly expressed are sadness and a little disappointment. As more information comes out it seems that CCP just got in to a tight spot financially and they are looking for ways to get out. They know as well as anyone that "pay to win" would be a game killer for eve.
If your point is that eve would survive, I think you are demonstrating lack of understanding of the bigger picture again. Yes, I'm sure a game called "eve" would still exist if they added non-vanity MT, but it would be in name only. It might even draw a larger subscriber base. But the qualities that make the current game absolutely unique would be lost forever. It would become just another MMO.
You claim that your understanding isn't "based on emotions" but your posts seem to be the most emotional in this thread. Defensive and narcississtic statements do not support your argument well, and as for the "spoiled and not-so-bright kid" statements... you can look up projection yourself.
I'm just curious- how long have you been playing eve? Are you playing now? You are certainly entitled to your opinions but you seem a bit out of touch with what the game is about.
I see the MASS EXODUS is continuing. Many are leaving for that uhh. other game!
Tsk, tsk.. Monocles anyone?
I erased EVE from my hard Drive today. It wont be coming back.
CCP no longer cares about its player base,its true! Especially after the comments CCP made.
When you have a game that ignores its player base all for the $$$$. Its time to move on.. As such I did. Along with some friends.. Goon,BCINC, RF, .. yup.. we are all leaving.
Thanks CCP!
If people like you leave over this, I'd say good riddance.
Too quote a band I like (MSP):
"If we tolerate this your children will be next!"
I don't play EVE but I support the rebels on this one. Nice to see a community finnaly come up for there rights and claim the things they were promised by there Gods. Too many time I´ve seen this in MMOland and only EVE seems to pull off a decent whip back at the dev´s. Kuddos to you all, fight the good fight!!!
Exactly! But for me, the worst thing already happenned: Not CCP introducing game changing items or anything like that, but the sadistic side of other players, joking about people with attittude enough to vote with their wallets, in a game that they love. For now, i only hope this kinda people only act like that in games. If someday ppl act like that in politics, we have a not so good future ahead of us.
Exactly! But for me, the worst thing already happenned: Not CCP introducing game changing items or anything like that, but the sadistic side of other players, joking about people with attittude enough to vote with their wallets, in a game that they love. For now, i only hope this kinda people only act like that in games. If someday ppl act like that in politics, we have a not so good future ahead of us.
The real tragedy is, I think there is an argument to be made that the average EVE player far surpasses the average politician in the areas of intellect, integrity, and thoughtfulness.
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Perpetuum got quite some EX EVE Players now, rushing the server. ATM we got even server issues becouse of the numbers of new player.
its 2 seperate announcements that they made themselves, its not like they arent being upfront about it.... .. it is what it is...
Yes, it is - not true.
Then I can add from other blog:
What you are seeing now is the result of many people LOVING this game.
There is nothing else even CLOSE to eve in terms of complexity, intensity, and honestly in terms of longevity and playability. Many of us have been playing for 7+ years, and I can say that quite honestly there are still days when it is just as enthralling as it was back when I started.
The protests you have been seeing are coming from the heart. Anyone who knows the game understands that a cash shop for non-vanity items will kill the economy, and the economy is at the heart of everything in eve. It is the reason pvp feels "real" in the game.. losses matter, resources are fought over and hard won.
PLEX/GTC are basically a way for those with less time to play to "barter" game time for ISK. That ISK still gets spent largely on player produced goods and services. PLEX provided what I think is a pretty ingenious solution to a difficult problem. Not the same as MT at all.
I have unsubscribed my accounts in protest... just to let CCP know how serious this issue is. If they go ahead with non-vanity MT, yes I will go and stay gone. BUT... I don't really see any other option that would be remotely interesting after eve online. I'm hoping CCP hears all of the loyal players loud and clear and doesn't screw this up. Hell, I'd even pay a higher monthly sub if that's what it takes to preserve the game as it is. All the people in that "unsubbed" thread (including myself) would most likely be back in a heartbeat if CCP does ONE THING: promises no MT for non-vanity items. EVER.
I think one thing we can all agree on is that Eve is changing. Some people like the change, some people are only dimly aware that a change is taking place and some are up in arms about it.
It seems to happen to most MMOs. Judging by the leaked documents from ccp, they're aware of what they are doing and have faith in the fact that people will still buy their product(s). I must admit it takes a certain amount of fearlessness to stay on this course, but I've noted the ironic lack of fearlessness when it comes to dealing with their current subscribers, a trait that may or may not serve them well with a different, pay as you play, subscriber base.
That isn't true and anyone saying that has no clue...
I used to like EVE, but I can't argue that it is basically like playing Excel with some sort of spacey background on my desktop. I'm surprised it has held together so well for so long honestly.
THIS ^^
ROFL - most "major" players have multi-month subs and will be back in a few days/weeks when they start jonesing.
While Perp is an OK game, they're NOT gonna like how limited it is compared to Eve.
I might not fully understand this, but what I understand is something about a monocle, and it's making players leave.
To me it seems a bit too dramatic to leave a game because of a monocle. C'mon, folks, it's a monocle. You don't have to buy it or anything else that they are selling for real life money. I don't quite understand the big fuzz about this monocle, and I'm not sure I ever will, but I still think people should calm down. There's no reason to leave a game you like, just because they sell a monocle.
It's the principle of the situation smokey.
But yeah on a serious note, principle. I think most of us bought these games expecting everything to do with that game to be included in said subscription. The more people give, the more they push. Most people don't have principle and most people just let what's going to happen whether it's right or not until it really does effect them ...by then it's too late.
Monocle today, who knows what tomorrow. Nothing like spending your subscription dollar to have them create an item you have to pay extra for ....
Heh I hear you Kyleran. I played wow for years myself as a nutcase raider, and am guilty of the "you will be back" comments myself. Prolly what got my goat and made me post. I might come back to EvE who knows. But I am liking PO so far so at worst I have something new to play along with the other games I play so win win. If not then at least I got a new one I found so far to keep me busy etc.
Personaly I hope CCP comes out OK irregardless if I play it or not. It is a one of a kind experience in a sea of herp derp games nowadays.
Yeah PO is going to have a cash shop. Paintjobs and such. I can handle that, not that I will use it mind you. The fun right now is the server had it's pecking order all set up already and now with this influx of New Eden refugees the status quo is completely shook up and the pre influx corps are getting really nervous. The new kids on the block are currently in the biggest corp and still growing on the server, the soon to come explosive war about to blow up for the territoy will keep me occupied and having fun for a good bit to come :)P
Then again by the time that explodes my lil mech will prolly have to hit the cash shop cause my paintjob will be trashed
I don't know you, so I don't know your history with eve. I can imagine your point of view seeming valid if you are one of those players who sees the game as nothing more than PVP interrupted by scraping together enough ISK to get back to PVP.
If you enjoy the longer term aspects of the game, corporation building/ alliance building, industry/ research, essentially everything that makes eve the great "human nature laboratory" that it is.... I can't imagine missing how obvious the injury (and insult) to the player driven economy is when you provide an means for players to circumvent it entirely. Eve has the best PVP on the planet- and that is because you are fighting with gear and for resources that you have put a lot of thought and (really enjoyable) time into obtaining.
ALL of eve is PVP in fact.. market, manufacturing, even exploration. If you can't grasp what I'm talking about, then you should at least understand this: non-vanity items being sold in a cash shop in eve will DEFINITELY destroy eve as we know it, because players like myself that have happily paid for multiple accounts for many years will be gone for good.
I can grasp it, and I am telling you it isn't truth because I am not wearing blind folders made of false illusion of self-importance.
The game won't die because you leave. Does it make EVE different? Sure, EVE is constantly evolving - being "destroyed as we know it", and people leaving are just part of the process, just today is your turn.
So when the world comes to an end next year will that be Sony's fault too?
Any word from Red Alliance on their stance?
For someone who isn't self important, you sure seem to like to hear yourself talk... and lucky for us, you apparently have an opinion about pretty much everything.
You seem to feel that you have a better understanding of recent events than the thousands of game veterans who have been posting and protesting about MT and what they mean for the game. Many people, including myself, feel that the game will no longer be worth playing if CCP introduces a non-vanity cash shop. This will be a shame if it happens, because as far as I know there's nothing else like it... nor is there likely to be in the near future.
Never heard of Perpetuum but after look at their site its an EvE clone with a cash shop. This whole EvE scenario has to be the biggest documented case of nerd rage ever. LOL!
Of course I do because my understanding isn't based on emotions, unlike those 'thousands' of disgruntled players who put a 'vet' sticker on their forehead thinking they are better and know better than anyone else, CCP included.
On one hand you complain that CCP isn't listening, on the other you act like spoiled and not-so-bright kid. The amount of rage is absurd and unreasonable.
I fully endorse what CCP is doing, because the forum 'community' isn't a representative sample for player population and any game dev should focus on what players do, rather than say - the game and revenue will be way better than.
Non-vanity items will fit the game well. The game is perfectly ready for them anyway and has long been.
The 'many' people/revenue who leave because of MT will be easily replaced by those who will come because of MT.
As EVE saying goes - Adapt or die.
Perpetuum isn't as epic as Eve right now, but it is very close to early Eve online - before it evolved into the game it is now.
One thing I will say about Perpetuum, is that it provides a combat dynamic that is lacking in Eve. WASD movement and using terrain as cover is what makes this a more enjoyable game than Eve to me.
If people like you leave over this, I'd say good riddance.
Too quote a band I like (MSP):
"If we tolerate this your children will be next!"
I don't play EVE but I support the rebels on this one. Nice to see a community finnaly come up for there rights and claim the things they were promised by there Gods. Too many time I´ve seen this in MMOland and only EVE seems to pull off a decent whip back at the dev´s. Kuddos to you all, fight the good fight!!!
If you take time to actually read what many of the long time players are writing about this situation you'll see that "rage" doesn't really apply. The only emotions I see regularly expressed are sadness and a little disappointment. As more information comes out it seems that CCP just got in to a tight spot financially and they are looking for ways to get out. They know as well as anyone that "pay to win" would be a game killer for eve.
If your point is that eve would survive, I think you are demonstrating lack of understanding of the bigger picture again. Yes, I'm sure a game called "eve" would still exist if they added non-vanity MT, but it would be in name only. It might even draw a larger subscriber base. But the qualities that make the current game absolutely unique would be lost forever. It would become just another MMO.
You claim that your understanding isn't "based on emotions" but your posts seem to be the most emotional in this thread. Defensive and narcississtic statements do not support your argument well, and as for the "spoiled and not-so-bright kid" statements... you can look up projection yourself.
I'm just curious- how long have you been playing eve? Are you playing now? You are certainly entitled to your opinions but you seem a bit out of touch with what the game is about.
alittle birdie told me Sony is in talks to aquire a controlling interest in CCP
All hail sony lol.
Exactly! But for me, the worst thing already happenned: Not CCP introducing game changing items or anything like that, but the sadistic side of other players, joking about people with attittude enough to vote with their wallets, in a game that they love. For now, i only hope this kinda people only act like that in games. If someday ppl act like that in politics, we have a not so good future ahead of us.
The real tragedy is, I think there is an argument to be made that the average EVE player far surpasses the average politician in the areas of intellect, integrity, and thoughtfulness.