Guild Wars 2 Hands-On | IncGamers

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Another hands-on article, now from IncGamers. I'm going to update this post when they release their preview of GW2 dungeons.

http://www.incgamers.com/Previews/308/guild-wars-2-hands-on

 

Edit: Also.. I know there's mention of SWTOR, so I'm asking you in advance, don't start a flame war and keep it on-topic. Thanks.

Leonona

It's nice that necromancers keep their minnions underwater.

cali59

I thought it was a good article.  The author didn't have a great knowledge of the game going in but it seems like they got the gist of it.  Funny that he thought he was playing a human but was actually playing a norn.

Ever since I've first seen the norn starting area videos I've thought that it just pales in comparison to the human area.  In the human area you're immediately thrown into the action, rescuing villagers and repelling centaur invaders.  The norn area would be fine compared to a traditional MMO that would have you killing ten rats, but I can't help but feel they should have made it more immediate and threatening, instead of just giving you three great hunt prerequisities.  I think it's unfortunate that it seems like the first impression this author received doesn't seem to be up to the standard of the rest of the experience he had.

We know that ArenaNet doesn't shy away from redoing an entire zone if it's not performing as well as they'd like (their blog says they did this with the Charr starting area), I wonder if they're going to reexamine this aspect of the norn starting area before launch.  I think even just having the hunt start and doing some tutorial things while you're already on the trail of the great wurm would help people feel more immersed right from the beginning.

Killyox

I can't take seriously article where writer mixes humans with norn and makes other mistakes. :P

mmoski

A good review from a indpendant gamer, these are the kinds of reviews are really important, because they highlight what can be seen by a passive look at the game.

Mimzel

I couldn't get passed this: 

"the only other frames of reference I have are two months of World of Warcraft, one month of Aion and a trial run of EVE Online"

Then this "journalist" has ended up in the wrong shelf, or the site is using the wrong person for the job. You dont send in your weakest skilled person to "review" two really major titles like that. 

The most you can get of this is some relatable information if you dont have any previous mmo experience. But if you dont, it's more than probable that you arent even reading these forums (80% of players dont even read forums, and I suppose newbies are even less likely to do so), so this "article" is simply noise or garbage on these parts.

And I'm looking forward to the releases of both gw2 and tor.

Killyox

Idd. Market is way to big to have "journalists for all".

You have journalists for mmo, for action games, rts games etc. or combination of 2.

I feel like starting blog about mmos seeing as i sit in them since 1999 and wrote master's thesis about mmo market:) But then i wouldn;t have enought ime for when GW2 comes!.

 

Hopefully my work laptop can handle GW2 when there are no clients haha.

drbaltazar

If i recall arenanet they go for broad crocrafter start etc.as we saw in the past it wont affect endgame it is just a style pf progressing .some wont lile fps progression other wont like crafter progresion etc.so it is no biggy.i do hope they keep the video stream format highligjt they have in w1wd so there will be classic start. Acton start pvp start

jondifool

Originally posted by Mimzel

I couldn't get passed this: 

"the only other frames of reference I have are two months of World of Warcraft, one month of Aion and a trial run of EVE Online"

Then this "journalist" has ended up in the wrong shelf, or the site is using the wrong person for the job. You dont send in your weakest skilled person to "review" two really major titles like that. 

The most you can get of this is some relatable information if you dont have any previous mmo experience. But if you dont, it's more than probable that you arent even reading these forums (80% of players dont even read forums, and I suppose newbies are even less likely to do so), so this "article" is simply noise or garbage on these parts.

And I'm looking forward to the releases of both gw2 and tor.

 I do disaggree here. I think that reviews from Nonfans and Non MMO vets are also important. No reason that non elitist couldn't eksperience and share the impressions from these games. And that for sure can means alot more than another expert with his own agenda. Actual also think he is doing a nice job being the uninformed columist. And if he confuse norn and humans, it might actual be a good tell, that they are hard to dicern from nonfans! So i just don't see the reason for your point of view here!

1carcarah1

Originally posted by jondifool

Originally posted by Mimzel

I couldn't get passed this: 

"the only other frames of reference I have are two months of World of Warcraft, one month of Aion and a trial run of EVE Online"

Then this "journalist" has ended up in the wrong shelf, or the site is using the wrong person for the job. You dont send in your weakest skilled person to "review" two really major titles like that. 

The most you can get of this is some relatable information if you dont have any previous mmo experience. But if you dont, it's more than probable that you arent even reading these forums (80% of players dont even read forums, and I suppose newbies are even less likely to do so), so this "article" is simply noise or garbage on these parts.

And I'm looking forward to the releases of both gw2 and tor.

 I do disaggree here. I think that reviews from Nonfans and Non MMO vets are also important. No reason that non elitist couldn't eksperience and share the impressions from these games. And that for sure can means alot more than another expert with his own agenda. Actual also think he is doing a nice job being the uninformed columist. And if he confuse norn and humans, it might actual be a good tell, that they are hard to dicern from nonfans! So i just don't see the reason for your point of view here!

True

heavyhebrew

John Roberston,

 

Who, what, when, where and why. I blame your editor (or lack thereof).

As a blog, it was decent but if you are going to label yourself a gaming journalist at least proof your work. I know, I know, I live in a fantasy world.

Ablestron

Im loveing the screen shots

Distopia

Originally posted by jondifool

 I do disaggree here. I think that reviews from Nonfans and Non MMO vets are also important. No reason that non elitist couldn't eksperience and share the impressions from these games. And that for sure can means alot more than another expert with his own agenda. Actual also think he is doing a nice job being the uninformed columist. And if he confuse norn and humans, it might actual be a good tell, that they are hard to dicern from nonfans! So i just don't see the reason for your point of view here!

But he's not writing from a perspective of a non-MMO player, he's writing about things only a person who regulars an MMO would understand, and at the same time he's showing he has no clue about such a subject. Talking about how everything comes together, while only playing for singular hours displays such an ignorant perspective.

Requiamer

Originally posted by pablorod

Originally posted by jondifool

Originally posted by Mimzel

I couldn't get passed this: 

"the only other frames of reference I have are two months of World of Warcraft, one month of Aion and a trial run of EVE Online"

Then this "journalist" has ended up in the wrong shelf, or the site is using the wrong person for the job. You dont send in your weakest skilled person to "review" two really major titles like that. 

The most you can get of this is some relatable information if you dont have any previous mmo experience. But if you dont, it's more than probable that you arent even reading these forums (80% of players dont even read forums, and I suppose newbies are even less likely to do so), so this "article" is simply noise or garbage on these parts.

And I'm looking forward to the releases of both gw2 and tor.

 I do disaggree here. I think that reviews from Nonfans and Non MMO vets are also important. No reason that non elitist couldn't eksperience and share the impressions from these games. And that for sure can means alot more than another expert with his own agenda. Actual also think he is doing a nice job being the uninformed columist. And if he confuse norn and humans, it might actual be a good tell, that they are hard to dicern from nonfans! So i just don't see the reason for your point of view here!

True

IF the guy is honest and wrote about his direct experience ingame, then his work is indeed very valuable, maybe even more than a vet in that domain imo. But if he do like many journalist that never in fact play the game, but copy paste some internet opinions, then you get some real problems; and many do that caugh caugh Ed Zitron being a perfect exemple of that.

SonofSeth

At this time I value the opinion of someone new to the genre more than some "vet". It seems only thing vets can say is how excited they are about any poorly thought out crap that's coming out.

We already know vets have no standards, or they are just beaten down by years of poor gameplay and graphics so only a hope of this mythical virtual world is enough to sing it's praises.

So when someone who doesen't have to justify to himself thousands of hours spent in a fake world says he's actually enjoying himself, it carries a little more weight.