Game suggestions?

faytblade

So i've played so many MMO's its stupid. I just can't seem to find the right one. I'm gonna give you guys a list of aspects i love in a MMO and you guys give me a list of games u think will work.

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  Grinding(Ya i know im crazy) I like this when its required but not to a stupid extent. I loved spinning for hours in twelve sky and grinding out a few levels.
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  Free to play is better but I might try a P2P(I've bought rift and WoW, liked um but couldnt get into it too much)
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  PVP is optional but has benifits to it
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  Crafting is nice
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  Long time to reach the max level
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  Some form of strategy or understanding of the game is required(I don't wanna right click and 1 shot every monster)
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  Guild
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  Solo play is easy to do(I don't like having to group for EVERY quest)
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  I don't want a game that requires you to spend alot of money to be good(Runes of magic >.>)
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  Instances of some kind. (I like bosses )
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  Decent graphics.(No 8 bit XD, Anime and chibi is fine.)
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  I also like stage based games(Lunia, grand chase, and some other ones)

Thats all i can think about but please if you have a Mmorpg or even just a pc game you think ill like please suggest it

Jimmac

Since developers have a hard time making good games, there usually aren't many choices to pick from for someone like you who is looking for a game with many particular characteristics (not that there is anything wrong with that...I am the same way). 

My only suggestion is to try EQ1 on the Fippy Darkpaw server with the Vert Blue UI. 

faytblade

Oh i don't require all of those lol its like buying a house. Im looking for a game with as many of those i can get. And EQ1 is a bit too old for me i think.

Ubudar

Go try Vanguard.

xKingdomx

Aion, it has a 7 day trial now

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  Grinding is less painful, but still require more time than WoW and Rift
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  P2P
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  PvP is optional until endgame I think, but PvP is like siege battle whereyou defend castles against enemy faction
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  crafting.....well I'm not sure what you mean by nice, since I'm not much of a crafting person
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  Longer time requires to max level than normal MMO
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  Not sure if you call chain skill and stigma skill as knowledge or strategy, but you certainly won't one shot everything
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  There are guilds
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  Haven't seen a quest that requires you to group up yet.
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  Subscription is all you pay for I think
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  There are instances (not as much as WoW or what not, but there are instances)
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  One of the best graphic/art style
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  It isn't stage based, its open world mostly (if this is a most, Vindictus is probably a better option, it fits most of the requirements as well, and the game is lobby/instanced based. f2p as well but you have to be within NA)

cybertrucker

If Vanguard wasnt completely dead population wise. I would say give it a go as its a great game.

Other than that I would say Aion However there are some quests that require groups to finish. Open Village quests which pit you against elite mobs in an Open world setting...

I have heard that the New Final Fantasy has made vast improvements since launch you might want to give that a try as well. Also Archage is coming you  could wait and see how that is.

Jimmac

Originally posted by Ubudar

Go try Vanguard.

If not EQ1 then Vanguard. Aion isn't even worth trying, in my opinion. 

dageeza

Might want to try hellgate london its F2P for the first 2 chapters and qualifies on most if not all your criteria as you can switch from normal to nightmare if you need more challenge..

If you like it after chapter 2 you can purchase the rest of the game for 4 bucks or buy the ticket in the AH for 400k plat or so which comes pretty easy in that game..