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A couple of questions

ReprobateReprobate Member Posts: 18

How large is the population in MO? Also is the community a mature one or does everyone just run around ganking whoever they come accross? How long will it take a complete noob to be able to compete with the vets? I'm think about giving this game a try and would just like to know what to expect. Thx in advance.

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  • MoreplexMoreplex Member Posts: 472

    It is a pretty low pop I just finished another trial.  (DO A TRIAL BEFORE YOU BUY THE GAME!!)  You can visit the official forums and many longtime playing people complain the pop is low.  There are 2 tjhings to do in MO craft to pvp and pvp the pve is quite broken and they said they are working on that now but they have been working on that since release.  Again do the trail and see foryourself.

  • funkmastaDfunkmastaD Member UncommonPosts: 647

    Originally posted by Reprobate

    How large is the population in MO? Also is the community a mature one or does everyone just run around ganking whoever they come accross? How long will it take a complete noob to be able to compete with the vets? I'm think about giving this game a try and would just like to know what to expect. Thx in advance.

     

    I do agree with Moreplex that you should definately check out the trial (though I wouldn't recomend making 4 different trial accounts one after another, like Moreplex is doing). you'll get a much less biased answer if you play the game yourself :)  

     

    Population's not bad at all. it'll take a week to level up your character to max and thus be able to compete with the pros... the big delay is gonna be you learning the ins and outs... there's a lot of people playing MO who have been playing from the beginning, and since MO combat is rather skill-based that's gonna be the bigger hurdle to jump.  Then again, there's a LOT of newbies running around, so it's not like it'll be you vs. a server full of vets... and even some of the vets are an easier kill than they care to admit ;)

     

    There's suprisingly few ganksquads actually, most the pople who just want to kill random defenseless people found out this isn't the game for them, but it does happen... your best bet is to keep your head on a swivel and get yourself a horse 

     

    edit:  there's a helluva lot to do in MO, it's not just killing and crafting... hell, I haven't done either in weeks.

  • JakdstripperJakdstripper Member RarePosts: 2,410

    expect a still very unfinished game.

    most skills take only one ot two weeks to max out (except some of the high end ones) and as long as you can afford good armor and weappons you are besically battle ready and competitive enough.

    the population is decent for a game that isn't all that big map wise. the majority of players are quite mature since this is not a game for the easely discouraged. however you will find the odd douche thief of greefer that just wants to piss people off. bigger cities tend to have more thiefs and greefers in general.

  • MoreplexMoreplex Member Posts: 472

    "

    edit:  there's a helluva lot to do in MO, it's not just killing and crafting... hell, I haven't done either in weeks."

     

    Really that's why people complain in the customer section all the time there is nothign to do but craft or pvp.   Because pve is a joke at best. 

     

    ps. I keep doing trials because SV does a patch that is supposed to make the game better but it only makes it worse.  So I will do a trial again when the AI is fixed. 

  • RohnRohn Member UncommonPosts: 3,730

    Originally posted by funkmastaD

    Originally posted by Reprobate

    How large is the population in MO? Also is the community a mature one or does everyone just run around ganking whoever they come accross? How long will it take a complete noob to be able to compete with the vets? I'm think about giving this game a try and would just like to know what to expect. Thx in advance.

     

    I do agree with Moreplex that you should definately check out the trial (though I wouldn't recomend making 4 different trial accounts one after another, like Moreplex is doing). you'll get a much less biased answer if you play the game yourself :)  

     

    Population's not bad at all. it'll take a week to level up your character to max and thus be able to compete with the pros... the big delay is gonna be you learning the ins and outs... there's a lot of people playing MO who have been playing from the beginning, and since MO combat is rather skill-based that's gonna be the bigger hurdle to jump.  Then again, there's a LOT of newbies running around, so it's not like it'll be you vs. a server full of vets... and even some of the vets are an easier kill than they care to admit ;)

     

    There's suprisingly few ganksquads actually, most the pople who just want to kill random defenseless people found out this isn't the game for them, but it does happen... your best bet is to keep your head on a swivel and get yourself a horse 

     

    edit:  there's a helluva lot to do in MO, it's not just killing and crafting... hell, I haven't done either in weeks.

     

    I think this post is pretty accurate all the way around.  Give the trial a shot - personal experience is the best way to know if you like a game or not, in my opinion.

    Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.

  • funkmastaDfunkmastaD Member UncommonPosts: 647

    Originally posted by Moreplex

    "

    edit:  there's a helluva lot to do in MO, it's not just killing and crafting... hell, I haven't done either in weeks."

     

    Really that's why people complain in the customer section all the time there is nothign to do but craft or pvp.   Because pve is a joke at best. 

     

    The sun will rise, the tides will turn, people will complain on internet forums.  You can't take that as gospel for the state of the game. I'm telling you that I, a player, am doing stuff other than crafting and pvp, and I'm having fun.  It's entirely possible, you just have to actually want to enjoy the game you keep playing.

  • TorgrimTorgrim Member CommonPosts: 2,088

    It's quite obvious he just doing the trials to find bugs so he have something to post on these boards, i stopped reading his posts long ago.

    If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  • MoreplexMoreplex Member Posts: 472

    Originally posted by funkmastaD

    Originally posted by Moreplex

    "

    edit:  there's a helluva lot to do in MO, it's not just killing and crafting... hell, I haven't done either in weeks."

     

    Really that's why people complain in the customer section all the time there is nothign to do but craft or pvp.   Because pve is a joke at best. 

     

    The sun will rise, the tides will turn, people will complain on internet forums.  You can't take that as gospel for the state of the game. I'm telling you that I, a player, am doing stuff other than crafting and pvp, and I'm having fun.  It's entirely possible, you just have to actually want to enjoy the game you keep playing.

    What do you do?  Explore there is nothing to explore.

  • MoreplexMoreplex Member Posts: 472

    Originally posted by Torgrim

    It's quite obvious he just doing the trials to find bugs so he have something to post on these boards, i stopped reading his posts long ago.

    it does not take 4 trials to find bugs.  It only takes 5 mins in game.  You should know that as a long term player.

  • MoreplexMoreplex Member Posts: 472
  • funkmastaDfunkmastaD Member UncommonPosts: 647

    Originally posted by Moreplex

    Originally posted by funkmastaD


     

    The sun will rise, the tides will turn, people will complain on internet forums.  You can't take that as gospel for the state of the game. I'm telling you that I, a player, am doing stuff other than crafting and pvp, and I'm having fun.  It's entirely possible, you just have to actually want to enjoy the game you keep playing.

    What do you do?  Explore there is nothing to explore.

     

    You sure about that?  

     

    For me though, trading and taming mostly, little bit of hunting, little bit of butchery, little bit of exploring.

     

    There's tons to do, next trial account you make, actually try playing the game... I mean, you'll clearly be logging in anyway,  why the hell not?

  • deathshrouddeathshroud Member Posts: 1,366

    recently i was getting a little bored and decided i should finish training up my armor crafter and maybe give the spdierqueen a try since i have never done it before. Tired the spdierqueen and it turned out to be alot of fun and rasinig up my armorcrafter has gotten me addicted to the game again. Next im planning trades with other guilds to transport everything i want in the future in exchange for coins.

     

    I have been playing since early beta and have played consistantly throguhout MO's life recently though i have gotten bored on occassion but right now im hooked just like i was back then. Over a year of playing MO thats more than i have ever played any other MMO and my list of previously played mmos is quite respectable UO,eve,aoc,ao,eq2,planetside,swg. So for all SV's faults they must be doing something right.

     

    the mo community do moan on the forums about things they want fixing and the devs do actively talk to us in the forums and private chats. The community as a whole love mo and we want it to be the game it has the potential to be. So when we criticise the game on the forums or moan about something its out of a love for the game and for it to become better and for sv to become better developers as a whole. But the good news is the devs do actually listen and have even included some of my suggestions into MO in the past.

    there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.

  • MoreplexMoreplex Member Posts: 472

    Originally posted by funkmastaD

    Originally posted by Moreplex


    Originally posted by funkmastaD


     

    The sun will rise, the tides will turn, people will complain on internet forums.  You can't take that as gospel for the state of the game. I'm telling you that I, a player, am doing stuff other than crafting and pvp, and I'm having fun.  It's entirely possible, you just have to actually want to enjoy the game you keep playing.

    What do you do?  Explore there is nothing to explore.

     

    You sure about that?  

     

    For me though, trading and taming mostly, little bit of hunting, little bit of butchery, little bit of exploring.

     

    There's tons to do, next trial account you make, actually try playing the game... I mean, you'll clearly be logging in anyway,  why the hell not?

     

     

    Thankyou for proving my point.   Lets go over everything you said you did.

     

    Trading= What can be traded that is not for pvp?

    Hunting= You get carcasses that you butcher for materials to pvp

    Butchery= Process of yielding materials from carcasses for pvp (getting materials to vraft for pvp might as well call it mining)

    Taming= Either you are doing what I would call an exploit of taming an animal brining to town then guard wacking to butcher it, or for horses to sell. 

    Exploring= Tell me what POI's in the wold you can go to and interact with.  Believe me I did my fair share of exploring I went to the jungle got lost in the islands found some cool shrines and weird places but you could not do anything with any of it but look at it.   But please tell me a place I can go and interact with the PO, I will go. 

     

     

    Like I said everything is crafting and pvp.  Now if you could take the carcas and make Clothes, furniture, decorations for the home or house, jewelry, totems,  You know shit that should be in a sandbox.  Then we would have a game.

  • funkmastaDfunkmastaD Member UncommonPosts: 647

    Originally posted by Moreplex

    Originally posted by funkmastaD


    Originally posted by Moreplex


    Originally posted by funkmastaD


     

    The sun will rise, the tides will turn, people will complain on internet forums.  You can't take that as gospel for the state of the game. I'm telling you that I, a player, am doing stuff other than crafting and pvp, and I'm having fun.  It's entirely possible, you just have to actually want to enjoy the game you keep playing.

    What do you do?  Explore there is nothing to explore.

     

    You sure about that?  

     

    For me though, trading and taming mostly, little bit of hunting, little bit of butchery, little bit of exploring.

     

    There's tons to do, next trial account you make, actually try playing the game... I mean, you'll clearly be logging in anyway,  why the hell not?

     

     

    Thankyou for proving my point.   Lets go over everything you said you did.

     

    Trading= What can be traded that is not for pvp?

    Hunting= You get carcasses that you butcher for materials to pvp

    Butchery= Process of yielding materials from carcasses for pvp (getting materials to vraft for pvp might as well call it mining)

    Taming= Either you are doing what I would call an exploit of taming an animal brining to town then guard wacking to butcher it, or for horses to sell. 

    Exploring= Tell me what POI's in the wold you can go to and interact with.  Believe me I did my fair share of exploring I went to the jungle got lost in the islands found some cool shrines and weird places but you could not do anything with any of it but look at it.   But please tell me a place I can go and interact with the PO, I will go. 

     

     

    Like I said everything is crafting and pvp.  Now if you could take the carcas and make Clothes, furniture, decorations for the home or house, jewelry, totems,  You know shit that should be in a sandbox.  Then we would have a game.

     

    So you're modifying your complaint to "There's nothing to do in MO except PVP, craft, or a whole bunch of other fun activities that can relate to PVP if you try hard enough to connect the two".

     

    Seriously, in your own post you list 5 things that aren't pvp or crafting, then say "everything is crafting and pvp"... do you even care that what you're saying doesn't make sense?

     

  • MoreplexMoreplex Member Posts: 472

    Not at all you said there is more to do than craft and pvp and you listed stuff you did.  And everything leads to pvp.  What else can any of that do.  I even listed examples of what those things you did could lead to in a game that is a true sandbox.  What else can you do with the carcass besides turn it inot weapons and armor.  You can not turn it into furnitire, decorations, clothing, jewelry, totems, etc, etc. 

    Or please tell me what you can do with it.

     

    Also you failed to tell me about the POIS i can interact with like true POIS that I would go exploring for.  Like I said I saw shrines and cool looking places in the jungle and on the islands but like I said they looked cool and that is where it ended.

     

    It is not hard at all to connect crafting, butchery, hunting, to pvp please list other things you can do with anything you get out of the hunting or the butchery.

  • RohnRohn Member UncommonPosts: 3,730

    Originally posted by Moreplex

    Not at all you said there is more to do than craft and pvp and you listed stuff you did.  And everything leads to pvp.  What else can any of that do.  I even listed examples of what those things you did could lead to in a game that is a true sandbox.  What else can you do with the carcass besides turn it inot weapons and armor.  You can not turn it into furnitire, decorations, clothing, jewelry, totems, etc, etc. 

    Or please tell me what you can do with it.

     

    Also you failed to tell me about the POIS i can interact with like true POIS that I would go exploring for.  Like I said I saw shrines and cool looking places in the jungle and on the islands but like I said they looked cool and that is where it ended.

     

    It is not hard at all to connect crafting, butchery, hunting, to pvp please list other things you can do with anything you get out of the hunting or the butchery.

     

    This is a case of missing the forest for the trees.  FunkmastaD is correct.

    Saying that everything leads to PvP or crafting is taking a metaview of the game to an absurd extreme, and ignores gameplay at the individual level.  One tiny example:  when someone goes out to tame a good desert or bull horse to sell back in town, they are playing the economic role of a tamer, which (hopefully) they enjoy.  It's part of the point of their character, and fills an important role in society.  Will the horse be used in PvP, or to haul loads of rock or carcasses for crafting?  The answer: it doesn't matter, because the player had fun as a tamer.

    A swordsmith enjoys making swords, which people may use for PvE or PvP.  Doesn't matter what it's used for - the player likes making swords.

    Certainly, PvP and crafting are major components of MO's gameplay.  PvE needs to be beefed up, which is supposedly next on the agenda.  But saying that everything leads to just two things is disingenuous at best.

    Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.

  • deathshrouddeathshroud Member Posts: 1,366

    building a house doesnt lead to pvp. fishing doesnt lead to pvp. being a crafter doesnt have to lead that crafter to pvp, he can make armour and weapons for others to pursue pvp but he isnt pursuing it himself. If your building a house it isnt for pvp its to hold items and craft.

    There are people and guilds in MO that avoid pvp, theres guilds in MO that kick members who go red, theres guilds in mo that only trade and are successful from it and there are palyers who just fish or just mine or just craft items. saying all MO offers is pvp is rediculous, i mean it might be all that is apealing to you. But there are many ways of playing MO.

    there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.

  • MoreplexMoreplex Member Posts: 472

    Originally posted by deathshroud

    building a house doesnt lead to pvp. fishing doesnt lead to pvp. being a crafter doesnt have to lead that crafter to pvp, he can make armour and weapons for others to pursue pvp but he isnt pursuing it himself. If your building a house it isnt for pvp its to hold items and craft.

    There are people and guilds in MO that avoid pvp, theres guilds in MO that kick members who go red, theres guilds in mo that only trade and are successful from it and there are palyers who just fish or just mine or just craft items. saying all MO offers is pvp is rediculous, i mean it might be all that is apealing to you. But there are many ways of playing MO.

    Did you not read what I said.  Ofcourse the crafter does not PVP but there is nothing to craft in the game besides things used in pvp.  I gave examples please read again.  Vynn and Aly left the game long ago due to it being boring as hell just being a crafter with no trade tools.  Fishing??  Did they ever put the other half of fishing in??  So you are telling me there are people with whole accounts for fishing only the place holder proffesion?  Is it like UO fishing like Henrik said it would be yet?? 

    From other posts you like to say you played UO but I doubt you did but in UO (a real sandbox) you could be a crafter and make chairs, rugs, tools, lockpicks, chests, tables, candelabra's, etc etc.  

    If all I wanted was pvp don't you think I would be playing MO?

  • RedRocketRedRocket Member CommonPosts: 154

    Originally posted by Moreplex

    Originally posted by deathshroud

    building a house doesnt lead to pvp. fishing doesnt lead to pvp. being a crafter doesnt have to lead that crafter to pvp, he can make armour and weapons for others to pursue pvp but he isnt pursuing it himself. If your building a house it isnt for pvp its to hold items and craft.

    There are people and guilds in MO that avoid pvp, theres guilds in MO that kick members who go red, theres guilds in mo that only trade and are successful from it and there are palyers who just fish or just mine or just craft items. saying all MO offers is pvp is rediculous, i mean it might be all that is apealing to you. But there are many ways of playing MO.

    Did you not read what I said.

     

    No he didn't. XD This is a very special case and we need new ways to protect ourselves from this plague if we want to stay sane.

  • ltankltank Member UncommonPosts: 293

    Originally posted by RedRocket

     

    we need new ways to protect ourselves from this plague if we want to stay sane.

    You can always try, I don't know, not posting on the forums for a game you despise. It's just so crazy it might work!

  • funkmastaDfunkmastaD Member UncommonPosts: 647

    Originally posted by ltank

    Originally posted by RedRocket

     

    we need new ways to protect ourselves from this plague if we want to stay sane.

    You can always try, I don't know, not posting on the forums for a game you despise. It's just so crazy it might work!

     

    Nah, that won't work, he loves the game too much.  He plays constantly, he talks about it constantly,  chalk another one up to Mortal Online's twisted fanbase!  image

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