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This game is likely to go F2P very soon, I'd wait until then and give it a go.
Although this is likely very good advice, I'd caution you that any F2P change may be quite some time away. Personally, I don't think the Champions F2P conversion worked out as well as they had hoped. If it had, STO would be F2P already. Of course there is the PW factor.........
If you think you'd like to try it, Amazon has it for cheap. For the cost of a single movie ticket, you can try the game for a month and see what's what. Don't let the C-store scare you either, nothing there is necessary in the slightest.
I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil
This game is likely to go F2P very soon, I'd wait until then and give it a go.
Although this is likely very good advice, I'd caution you that any F2P change may be quite some time away. Personally, I don't think the Champions F2P conversion worked out as well as they had hoped. If it had, STO would be F2P already. Of course there is the PW factor.........
If you think you'd like to try it, Amazon has it for cheap. For the cost of a single movie ticket, you can try the game for a month and see what's what. Don't let the C-store scare you either, nothing there is necessary in the slightest.
From what Iv read CO going F2P didnt work out as well as Cryptic planed due to how little content the game has and how costly the c-store is. STO is a licence to print money from a Trekky point of view as so many of the customer base not only will pay a monthly fee but also beg Cryptic to take their money if they add costumes or races to the c-store.
LOTRO has a huge amount of content, 3 and 6 man dungeons, full raids, full crafting, tons of fluff items, skirmishes and PvP of a sort on its free to play model where spending a 10-20 quid every couple of months gives you plently of value for money.
STO has none of the above except the fluff items so there is nothing to keep people paying or playing.
STO is not bad. I recently rejoined to see Season 4. Let me say a few things first:
1. The character creator is not that good...
2. The cryptic points are expensive...
But...the game is fun but you have to go all the way to the Starbase first. If you can't get to there your not giving this game a chance.
This game is not as demanding on players like CoH is. In my turn this time, I will be a content creator. I hope to create lots of Undine stories for the game.
1. What? You don't like 3 types of hair?
2. I'd say... 3 dollars for a Horta... does he do backflip and make you breakfast?
Why- because it is crap and if people keep falling for crap, that is all they are going to get is crap. The game is nothing like Star Trek or any vision Gene would of had of Star Trek. It did get better but when you are at the bottom of the pit, there is only one place go so that is not saying much.
Meh, give it a go. I had fun with it for a couple of months, and spent less than I would have purchasing any one of the new games out there now (mainstream ones anyway). Even if you think it's a horrible atrocity that should be destroyed, the most you'll be out is less than the cost of a halfway decent meal.
I'd like to check out the ground combat changes myself, but am waiting for it to go F2P. If that doesn't happen in a month or two I may just bite the bullet and pay the $15 anyway. DStahl is definitely moving this game in the right direction.
Play the trial and decide for yourself. The trial only contains the early part of the game but, to be honest, the content doesn't really get that much diverse beyond the standard few types of quests you get in the trial. It was truly awful at release but I woke up with a hangover and found I had resubbed there a few months back (doh), I was pleasently surprised at how they had improved some areas of the game. There were now storyline quest chains that played out like star trek episodes (albeit simple episodes) and it was enough to keep me interested for a day or two before I got bored with the shoddy format again. They've recently overhauled the ground combat in the last patch which was one of the biggest canards. Although even with all the touches and improvements it will be hard to get over the fact that it's a pretty two dimensional game. A sci-fi game based on space exploration comes with some hefty expectations (especially after eve did a great job with making the universe truly big and wild), this game just makes space feel small, caged in and repetitively dull.
In Summary:
Space Combat: well polished and with a very Next Generation-y feel to it...but with diminishing returns, painfully repetitive after the first few missions, general 'aw not this one agaaain' feeling.
Ground Combat: haven't seen the overhaul but I hear they basically speeded it up and dropped health bars to make it more on the edge of your seat with an added optional first person shooting gimick. I'll wager it's still repetitive as hell though.
Environments: they've misunderstood the concept of scale of space big time. You can fly around planets in a way that makes them all about the size of small cities using orbiting asteroids as a reference point. Both space and ground areas are instanced and horribly/claustraphobically boxed in.
Graphics: passable but character and ship models seem McDonaldsy, inflexible and plastic but maybe that's just me.
Progression: as you go up the ranks you get better ships that can do more things but the missions dont change much so there's just more options to do the same things.
I agree, do the trial and see what you think. A lot of the people vehemently against the game are ones who played at launch, or even 6 months in. It's improved by leaps and bounds since then, and still has a healthy playerbase.
In all fairness, ANY mmo is repetative, but STO actually makes an effort to make things fun. There are no RP servers per se, and there are RP Fleets (guilds) that seem to thrive. As far as the community, there are a few bad apples but for the most part in Earth Space Dock chat its mostly conversations and playful joking around.
I find the game a lot of fun, and so do quite a few other people it seems. You are going to have ot make up your mind for yourself though.
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This game is likely to go F2P very soon, I'd wait until then and give it a go.
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Although this is likely very good advice, I'd caution you that any F2P change may be quite some time away. Personally, I don't think the Champions F2P conversion worked out as well as they had hoped. If it had, STO would be F2P already. Of course there is the PW factor.........
If you think you'd like to try it, Amazon has it for cheap. For the cost of a single movie ticket, you can try the game for a month and see what's what. Don't let the C-store scare you either, nothing there is necessary in the slightest.
I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil
From what Iv read CO going F2P didnt work out as well as Cryptic planed due to how little content the game has and how costly the c-store is. STO is a licence to print money from a Trekky point of view as so many of the customer base not only will pay a monthly fee but also beg Cryptic to take their money if they add costumes or races to the c-store.
LOTRO has a huge amount of content, 3 and 6 man dungeons, full raids, full crafting, tons of fluff items, skirmishes and PvP of a sort on its free to play model where spending a 10-20 quid every couple of months gives you plently of value for money.
STO has none of the above except the fluff items so there is nothing to keep people paying or playing.
1. What? You don't like 3 types of hair?
2. I'd say... 3 dollars for a Horta... does he do backflip and make you breakfast?
No
Why- because it is crap and if people keep falling for crap, that is all they are going to get is crap. The game is nothing like Star Trek or any vision Gene would of had of Star Trek. It did get better but when you are at the bottom of the pit, there is only one place go so that is not saying much.
Meh, give it a go. I had fun with it for a couple of months, and spent less than I would have purchasing any one of the new games out there now (mainstream ones anyway). Even if you think it's a horrible atrocity that should be destroyed, the most you'll be out is less than the cost of a halfway decent meal.
I'd like to check out the ground combat changes myself, but am waiting for it to go F2P. If that doesn't happen in a month or two I may just bite the bullet and pay the $15 anyway. DStahl is definitely moving this game in the right direction.
Play the trial and decide for yourself. The trial only contains the early part of the game but, to be honest, the content doesn't really get that much diverse beyond the standard few types of quests you get in the trial. It was truly awful at release but I woke up with a hangover and found I had resubbed there a few months back (doh), I was pleasently surprised at how they had improved some areas of the game. There were now storyline quest chains that played out like star trek episodes (albeit simple episodes) and it was enough to keep me interested for a day or two before I got bored with the shoddy format again. They've recently overhauled the ground combat in the last patch which was one of the biggest canards. Although even with all the touches and improvements it will be hard to get over the fact that it's a pretty two dimensional game. A sci-fi game based on space exploration comes with some hefty expectations (especially after eve did a great job with making the universe truly big and wild), this game just makes space feel small, caged in and repetitively dull.
In Summary:
Space Combat: well polished and with a very Next Generation-y feel to it...but with diminishing returns, painfully repetitive after the first few missions, general 'aw not this one agaaain' feeling.
Ground Combat: haven't seen the overhaul but I hear they basically speeded it up and dropped health bars to make it more on the edge of your seat with an added optional first person shooting gimick. I'll wager it's still repetitive as hell though.
Environments: they've misunderstood the concept of scale of space big time. You can fly around planets in a way that makes them all about the size of small cities using orbiting asteroids as a reference point. Both space and ground areas are instanced and horribly/claustraphobically boxed in.
Graphics: passable but character and ship models seem McDonaldsy, inflexible and plastic but maybe that's just me.
Progression: as you go up the ranks you get better ships that can do more things but the missions dont change much so there's just more options to do the same things.
I agree, do the trial and see what you think. A lot of the people vehemently against the game are ones who played at launch, or even 6 months in. It's improved by leaps and bounds since then, and still has a healthy playerbase.
In all fairness, ANY mmo is repetative, but STO actually makes an effort to make things fun. There are no RP servers per se, and there are RP Fleets (guilds) that seem to thrive. As far as the community, there are a few bad apples but for the most part in Earth Space Dock chat its mostly conversations and playful joking around.
I find the game a lot of fun, and so do quite a few other people it seems. You are going to have ot make up your mind for yourself though.