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The great invention of Rift
Even tho GW2 is on the horizon, Rift is still technically the first game with a so called "Dynamic Event"
But on topic, the great invention of Rift is probably
AOE LOOTING
This feature is so nice, every game should implement lol, it just makes the grinding easier
oh or did you read the first line and decided to be hell with it and flame me already 
, to me, rifts are just events, not dynamic events
EDIT: inserted poll :P
How much WoW could a WoWhater hate, if a WoWhater could hate WoW?
As much WoW as a WoWhater would, if a WoWhater could hate WoW.
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Wrong your so called dynamic events are not dynamic they are static spawns. Also they ripped those so called dynamic events off from war hammer public quests. There are for the most part the same design just tweaked.
Aoe looting was ok but the game is booring.
Isn't looting only a mechanic thats required when there is some form of player looting(like UO/DF/MO), or maybe i just have and issue with looting in PvE, why do i need to press a button to pick something up, and during the course of the game how many times do i need to press that button ? really ? just stick it in my inventory please, save the hassle, save wear on my KB.
u dont have to loot in CoX. it automatically goes in inventory. thats the shit.
Rift had no great inventions, only further refinements of previously introduced game mechanics or minor refinements.
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Rift has invasions which have rampaging mobs running around fighting players, npc, and other rampaging mobs. It also has major invasions during world events, temporary story lines and daily quests during world events, the ability to change how areas look during world events, and has shown the ability to do one time, timed events (although it remains to be seen if they'll do it again.)
What is your definition of "dynamic content" if none of these elements apply?
I was pleasantly surprised when I went from Apprentice to full 5 star Elite in under 2 months. I was pleasantly surprised again when I went from Elite to just barely Hardcore in 2 weeks. Apprentice, here I come!
What you're talking about are just the Rifts themselves. There are dynamic events that happen seemingly randomly depending on certain variables where shit hits the fan and you and everyone else in a zone will have to basically go to war for a while to stop an invasion that is moving through different area's of the zone, killing people and npc's alike, raiding villages and whatnot.
No other game out there has this, and it's by far the only enjoyable part of Rift in my eyes - which unfortunately isn't enough to keep me playing.
Rift is going to get tagged as the father of dynamic content, but that is only because of the amount of dynamic content the game uses. Much like Warhammer is tagged with creating public quests.
These mechanics existed in smaller and various amounts in other games dating all the way back to UO.
Rift just refined the idea and made it a core mechanic in the game. That isn't saying it is bad or Trion are hacks. Kudos for making a great in game system that works well and provides a lot for players to do.
I love how the MMO community defines "invention". It has to be something completely original, never seen before, totally unique. Because in threads like this whenever something innovative is pointed out the automatic response is "its just an improvement over X game" or "i saw that in X game -its better in RIFT but they didnt invent it". By the definition MMO folks use to define invention or innovation literally nothing has been "invented" or is"new" since roughly the creation of the wheel.
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Rift has innovated quite a bit. Its soul system, the use of Rifts, its dynamic event system, the speed at which content is pushed out, AOE looting, and a good bit more. Have all of these elements been seen in some form before-of course-the MMO market is pretty mature-at this point its about pushing the envlope, tweaking models that work, enhancing or building upon existing models to make them better and more interesting.
Every game any of us has ever played was built in part on the games that came before . Rift isnt for everyone, i think its a bit to quest dependent, I find the end game to be a bit meh in terms of repeatable (daily) quest type content. I'd love to see some "extra" things to do in the game like fishing, a music system, housing, guild housing and most of all AA's. But its certainly the best game we've seen in the last 3 or 4 years. They are pumping out loads of solid content on a fast timetable, they have an energetic dev team that communicates VERY well with its users. Next to GuildWars 2 and SWOTR i think it represents the best hope for the future of our genre.
Did you read my last line, it was directed at you ;D
Its funny so many jumped at flaming the first line of the post, not even bother reading the rest of it.
How much WoW could a WoWhater hate, if a WoWhater could hate WoW?
As much WoW as a WoWhater would, if a WoWhater could hate WoW.
Rift is just bascially Warhammer Online re vamped lol. it uses the same engine and everything...
Never said it was a great invention for the MMO genre, just said it was a great invention of Rift, compare to everything else, AoE looting was great in Rift, something that I hope other games start implementing, its those small things that makes life easier.
Maybe instead of saying this sucks and that sucked, find a positive in games, maybe everyone can have a longer lifespan.
How much WoW could a WoWhater hate, if a WoWhater could hate WoW?
As much WoW as a WoWhater would, if a WoWhater could hate WoW.
Rift was fun for 3 months until they released the third raid with no real content. Daily quests are not content. Maybe if they had released new zones I might still be playing. Oh well.
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I would like to see Auto AoE Looting [AAL] feature in future mmorpgs.
Looting mobs one by one is annoying.
Looting mobs AoElike is better.
Looting mobs with AAL would be great.
Ah and AAL should be optional so comes with a looting mode selection in options menu:
Loot one by one, AoE loot, AAL Loot
and 'sell all junk' button @ trader npcs is a must have function imo.
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Lol I never said you said it was a great invention for the MMO genre. You discribed it as a great invention and I said, if that is, then what hope is there for MMOs, of which Rift is.
Anyway even now you are saying that you hope that other games(MMOs i guess) implement it, so by extension you are saying it is an invention for other MMOs, ie the MMO genre, make up your mind what you want to say.......
I did not say that anything sucked (for someone who is saying he never said something, it is a bit rich to say that I said something when i did not), all I am saying is that AoE looting is not that great in the vast scheme of things.
Want something positive in games then check out this list:
1) AoC's combat style that moves away from auto attack making each and every npc encounter different.
2) War/DaOC's RvR pvp model that gives each faction (an end game) something to fight over continously and endlessly
3) Rifts multi-facet class system removing the need to roll vast number of alts in the same archi-type.
4)Mounted combat, X-realm LFG systems, Eve's skill system to mention a few more.
These are innovative and push forward the boundaires of the genre.....
Rift is one of the greatest mmorpgs made in our time, the content coming is exciting and it is not on cash cow life warning syndrome like warhammer and daoc are. Each of the patches are nothing short of heavy.
Sure it takes a different angle to things but imo it is the wests no.2 mmorpg next to wow, next year it should still be in the top 4.
Do we really have to the name the ways in which you are wrong?
Chins
Although I read through the entire post I still voted dynamic events suck because they contain more suckage than the aoe looting contains awesomeness.
No because then you would be not telling the truth. I'll pick one though you think mythic are the same team they were continuing amazing development of daoc and warhammer? Not on your nelly they are all in bed with bioware.
Go check out Eden Eternal. Your non-combat pet loots for you with no aggro radius.
LFD tools are great for cramming people into content, but quality > quantity.
I am, usually on the sandbox .. more "hardcore" side of things, but I also do just want to have fun. So lighten up already
think we need to agree to disagree
Chins