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MoreplexMoreplex Member Posts: 472

I have always liked Cyde he is a smart person.  Many people told SV it was a bad move to ban him from the forum fro critical posts.  He has started a new one which I agree with %100

 

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default Priorities - My opinion.




First off, let me state my opinion that Starvault desperately needs to sort out its priorities. Yes fluff is needed, and the hunger/cooking system is decent enough but what really bothers me is the mount system. Way too much effort has been put into this and tbh it's completely superfluous, the mounts were fine as they were, now they have more variety but they feel broken and ultimately seem like a waste of time.



Six months was put into the Dawn patch, and realistically, what was added that's going to keep subs? What part of Dawn gave anyone more reason to subscribe? 



You're right, I cant think of anything either.



Sorry to be so negative but seriously, SV, priorities.



Combat



I've already made a thread regarding this but I want to see two tiny changes to the melee system, just to make it less of a hit trade, because nobody likes a hit trade. (except Derik.. maybe.)

The fact is I've spent the course of the server war dressed in a cronite armour set and wielding an ogh sword and I just feel like if someone jumped me alone, I could casually wait til I was 50% hp before turning around and dealing with them, because I can tank a ton of hits while hitting like a truck – perfect for this combat system. I know there's a shit load of money worth of gear in that set up, but seriously, it ultimately shows that the system is way too gear based, and that sucks.


  1. Let block interrupt a charge.
If I'm standing with a swing ready to hit someone and suddenly need to block, I should be able to adjust to a block instantly. I see no logical reason for this not to be in place, it makes sense completely in game terms and real terms. This increases the requirement for quick response times.


  1. Decrease counter-attack charge and release time.
A complementing system for the adjusted block is the increased efficiency of counter attacks. Think for a moment what a counter attack essentially is. You are aiming to suddenly take the enemy completely by surprise and remove their ability to defend. Right now, counter attacks are essentially an average swing with a little more damage behind them. A definition of them in this game would be, 'not enough'. Counter attacks are lightning fast, damaging assaults. They are the only special move, make them rule combat by significantly decreasing the time it takes to charge and release them. Make it take lightning fast reactions to block them so that the ones who shine in duels are those who can block and counter effectively. Hit trading will also be eliminated with this change.





Two minor changes and you've got skill based combat again.





Territory Control





I think territory control is hugely important and should have received a lot more attention by now than it has. Again.. priorities.





Keep Capture

Currently, it's imperative that you remove the standing keep and put one up in its place if you want to take over territory. This is both a massive investment of money and and a massive investment of time. Both of those are significant factors when it comes to turning a force from taking over territory. So no one bothers.





Keeps need to be capturable.





First of all, I think that guilds in ownership of a keep should not be able to decline a war dec. Once at war, the attacking force can capture the keep.

At 10% hp the doors to the keep are broken down and if the attackers pay 1000g for a transfer deed they place it inside the keep and after an hour of the person carrying the deed being alive inside the keep the keep passes hands.





SOMETHING like this, it's not easy to think of a good system and it really needs discussion but idk, something along these lines.





Incentives for control





It's my personal belief that every palisade in the map should have some kind of unique benefit to it. That way there is an incentive for conquering guilds and alliances to take everything, or, if they aren't up for that, there might be increased trade between guilds of the unique materials.





The materials should be rare and valuable, each with its own benefit. It could be raw ore, or wood, or animal materials. Whatever it should be there should be somewhere within the palisade where things can be farmed (with appropriate depletion/respawn rates)





I doubt any guild has the motivation to conquer the entire map, but if they did, at least it would be rewarding.





Also, taxation needs to work, and each house should be required to pay an appropriate amount of money to the resident keep.





Finally, I think that members of the guild that owns the territory should be immune to the guards of the territory, no matter of their flag. Also, everyone within the territory should be killable by the resident guild without any repercussions.





In time I'd also like the system so that the resident guild can define flags for individual players when they entire the territory. For example, a player who is flagged as innocent in one territory could be flagged a murderer in another, etc. But this I think can easily wait.





Reasons for prioritizing these ideas





Of course these ideas are completely in favour of PvPers and completely neglect the peaceful individuals of the community, but I think that the PvP aspect of the game is and will always be the ruling factor. Also, guilds should be hugely important as should territory control. Currently neither are, and this needs to change. Big conflicts always bring a new spark to the game while they last, and if guild wars and territory control could work then finally the PvP might have areason. And people might finally stay.

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  • MoreplexMoreplex Member Posts: 472

    The one thing in the thread Talwin says that makes no sense to me is. 

    "

    For example, the new UI needs to be finished before a new inventory system, and the new inventory and item system need to be finished before new items, like new armors, weapons, and RP/social items, can be added. Another example is that the new gene system had to be finished before the new AI system, and the new AI system has to be finished before Breeding is in. Yet another example would be that the cooking and eating system had to be finished before alchemy could be done. Systems work upon systems that work upon systems and so on."

     

    Why does a gene system need to be in before AI?  Do Risars, ratmen, skeles etc etc need to have genes for AI?

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,720

    Originally posted by Moreplex

    The one thing in the thread Talwin says that makes no sense to me is. 

    "

    For example, the new UI needs to be finished before a new inventory system, and the new inventory and item system need to be finished before new items, like new armors, weapons, and RP/social items, can be added. Another example is that the new gene system had to be finished before the new AI system, and the new AI system has to be finished before Breeding is in. Yet another example would be that the cooking and eating system had to be finished before alchemy could be done. Systems work upon systems that work upon systems and so on."

     

    Why does a gene system need to be in before AI?  Do Risars, ratmen, skeles etc etc need to have genes for AI?

     Well... guess that simply confirms that you are looking at MANY addtitional months before "working AI" is added to the game.  So seriously.. the game will simply remain 100% PvP focused for the forseeable future and even the PvP is neutered due to the fact they disabled combat systems like asset destruction, pet commands are borked and the lag/desync/interpolation.prediction system is screwed

     

    Good thing they let Cyde post again.  The fact that he was banned from the forums was a great injustice...  Instead of censoring him maybe they should listen to what he says...

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  • Cyde77Cyde77 Member UncommonPosts: 101

    err thanks, but it was just a 3 week ban ..lol

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    I was bored and saw kootenay locked an entertaining thread so I made another thread that basically ripped on the mod rules and koot took exception

  • MoreplexMoreplex Member Posts: 472

    I bet SV regrets unbanning Cyde today..

    http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/65180-times-tough-have-hope.html

     




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    i sensed a subtle jab at SV's lack of experience there.



    If you're speaking legitimately can I ask you why you think good times are coming?



    At the rate the development is going I'm seeing another 342984 months spent on alchemy and breeding, by which time yet another developer or two will have been dismissed to cut costs, at which point Henrik Mats and Seb the remaining devs will look at their to-do list and move on to implementing something like...horse shit to accompany horse piss.



    And yes I'm being the negative nando today, I just need to get my frustration at the devs out of my system that's been building up over the past 3 weeks. It pains me to see a complete lack of communication from Henrik and makes me think they're blind to the fact that some of us object to their development plan and direction.



    meh.

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,720

    Guess you were right.  Same message as above.  Look at his new status...

     

     


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    i sensed a subtle jab at SV's lack of experience there.



    If you're speaking legitimately can I ask you why you think good times are coming?



    At the rate the development is going I'm seeing another 342984 months spent on alchemy and breeding, by which time yet another developer or two will have been dismissed to cut costs, at which point Henrik Mats and Seb the remaining devs will look at their to-do list and move on to implementing something like...horse shit to accompany horse piss.



    And yes I'm being the negative nando today, I just need to get my frustration at the devs out of my system that's been building up over the past 3 weeks. It pains me to see a complete lack of communication from Henrik and makes me think they're blind to the fact that some of us object to their development plan and direction.



    meh.


     


    If you can't FIX the problems, just ban those who complain and the problems will go away...  RIGHT?

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  • Cyde77Cyde77 Member UncommonPosts: 101



    [quote]Dear Cyde,



    You have received a new private message at Mortal Online Forums from kootenay, entitled "You have received an infraction at Mortal Online Forums".



    To read the original version, respond to, or delete this message, you must log in here:

    http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/private.php



    This is the message that was sent:

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    Dear Cyde,



    You have received an infraction at Mortal Online Forums.



    Reason: Trolling

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    There is no trolling on the forums Cyde

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    This infraction is worth 1 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.



    Original Post:

    http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/65199-proof-aq-hacking-post1187176.html#post1187176



    ---Quote---

    Finally, got em at last. This is solid.



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_9oBnOypjI



    0:29 - turns around to admire the view. Everyone knows standing still makes your enemy go further away and doesnt allow them to make up massive distance on you.

    0:50 - turns around to admire the view again and reflects upon how his last stop didnt make the enemy go further away as it should (evidence of hacks)

    1:03 - jogs backwards while reflecting upon how LolaBunny sprinting is faster than him jogging. (I mean so blatant, how obvious can you make yourself? everyone knows jogging is as fast as sprinting, wtf)

    1:14 - stands still in the hope that the hacks have stopped working and that LolaBunny will go further away because of it. Doesnt happen (again, evidence of major hacks)

    Waits so long that lolabunny who would have lower stamina at this point must also be on or close to max stamina.

    1:32 - sprints away again expecting his huge unparalleled 125 dex runspeed will leave LolaBunny in the dust after about 2 seconds (it should, obviously, but LolaBunny is hacking as we can clearly see)

    1:38 - reflects about how LolaBunny should go from 100% stamina to 0% in the time he goes from 100% to 40%, just because Lola has his sword out. (obviously drains are at 300% while running with the sword out, everyone knows this, again evidence to show LolaBunny is hacking)

    2:12 - well what can I say? looks like teleport hacks / lagswitch from CYDE there to me, pretty blatant.

    100 headshot? Damage hacks obviously.



    Busted, AQ. Prepare for numerous account bans across the board.



    oh fuck wait, LolaBunny frapsed it too!



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thvqqTtx7N4



    Damn it caught out once again, we'll get them next time though.

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    unsubbed. mods need to lighten the fuck up.

    game's gonna die anyway, oh well.

     

    edit: christ wheres the quote and img tags on this forum? what a mess

  • MoreplexMoreplex Member Posts: 472

    How was that trolling unless they consider it trolling when you are basically trolling yourself???

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,720

    Originally posted by Cyde77



    unsubbed. mods need to lighten the fuck up.

    game's gonna die anyway, oh well.

     

     Yet... there are those who will claim the game is "improving" and the moderation is just fine and dandy!   Guess your experience has been quite different...

     

    SV's motto is "Ignore the problem till it goes away"...

    followed by

    "If it doesn't go away, make those who complain about it go away"

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  • RedRocketRedRocket Member CommonPosts: 154

    I can't believe you were subbed to that crap to begin with. :P

     

    Obviously they didn't want to ban you for "saying bad things about SV" in the other thread, so they banned you for trolling in any other. And if you suspect bad intention, well, there's a chance that poopenay didn't even read and/or understand the thread before getting rid off you.

     

    Btw I'm getting bored of laughing at SV. Maybe that's their tactic?

  • ToferioToferio Member UncommonPosts: 1,411

    I've had some respect for Koot being one of better mods, rather then the fanboi Talwin, but seems he neither knows what sarcasm is and puts everything under "trolling" tag as he seems fit.

  • Cyde77Cyde77 Member UncommonPosts: 101

    Originally posted by Slapshot1188

    Originally posted by Cyde77



    unsubbed. mods need to lighten the fuck up.

    game's gonna die anyway, oh well.

     

     Yet... there are those who will claim the game is "improving" and the moderation is just fine and dandy!   Guess your experience has been quite different...

     

    SV's motto is "Ignore the problem till it goes away"...

    followed by

    "If it doesn't go away, make those who complain about it go away"

    Barely any devs left

    moderation is crap both ingame and out. I see a trend with both the GMs and the forum/irc mods where the big names are the tossers, and then you get the ones you don't know who seem chill

    the devs that are left have their priorities in the wrong place and dont have the experience/manpower to pull this through imo, fuck knows how long it's going to be before they fix dawn, which has been out nearly 2 months

    hardly anyone bothers logging in anymore. they disable asset destruction and give no indication of how long it's going to be out. we brought a spark back to the community with that. yes it was buggy but people logged in and fought. since they disabled it ive spent maybe 1 or 2 hours ingame tops, in almost a week, because all it is is mage griefers in gk or nothing.

    anyway i deleted the characters off my main account, kinda hurt to do so actually since its over a year since i made them, but fuck it, at least ill be less inclined to log in and do nothing.

  • MoreplexMoreplex Member Posts: 472

    Cyde like many others you need to unsub to let SV know you won't take it anymore.  So only Sindas and Opal/Shinzon are the only ones still playing,

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,720

    Originally posted by Moreplex

    Cyde like many others you need to unsub to let SV know you won't take it anymore.  So only Sindas and Opal/Shinzon are the only ones still playing,

     He not only unsubbed... but he deleted all his characters and screenshot as he was doing so.

     http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo96/joeblob2/deleteall.png?t=1312152547

     

    That's the way to send a message.  Maybe Kootenay will finally be removed although if it's like when they "removed" St Judas I guess it wouldn't mean much.

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  • ZheomZheom Member Posts: 58

    Originally posted by Moreplex

    Cyde like many others you need to unsub to let SV know you won't take it anymore.  So only Sindas and Opal/Shinzon are the only ones still playing,

     

    oh alot ppl have unsubbed already since they disabled the asset destruction.. its really going downhill fast now with even mods destroying the community with bans.

  • realAngaratorealAngarato Member UncommonPosts: 14

    yea the mods are absolute fucking retards, akk if them, and so are most of the fucking stupid gms that dont even know how their own game works.

    this dude was accusing people for the failed bug saying it was a hack. so i explained to the dumbass how failed actually works and that it was SV's fault not the players

    here is my latest infraction lol.

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    why this happans unilaterally?

    why they see all, but we see noone?

    why admin's can't do anythink? i sure that admin see all that happans while in a battle..

    and while next time it repeat again admin's do nothink? and then what is the essence of the game?



    fix it, punish the perpetrators.



    why when they see what happens nonsense does not stop the battle?

     


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  • AllSeeingGuyAllSeeingGuy Member Posts: 143

    Mortal is on its final incline, I don't see it recovering unless something major happens thats not a fake expansion or a new area or mob. More like selling to a company that knows how to program and has a professional team of Mods/Gms/Counselors not players. Gigamo is a counselor imagine that.

  • RohnRohn Member UncommonPosts: 3,730

    By the way, Cyde is back playing the game - has been for several days.

    Gone for less than 2 weeks before returning.  Doesn't appear to be the huge statement some here were loudly and proudly proclaiming.... 

    LOL  image

    Maybe, just maybe, some people actually DO enjoy playing it.

    Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.

  • MoreplexMoreplex Member Posts: 472

    Originally posted by Rohn

    By the way, Cyde is back playing the game - has been for several days.

    Gone for less than 2 weeks before returning.  Doesn't appear to be the huge statement some here were loudly and proudly proclaiming.... 

    LOL  image

    Maybe, just maybe, some people actually DO enjoy playing it.

    I do not think anyone said the people did not enjoy the game that can see past the bugs, corruption, lack of experience by the dev team, no content. 

     

    It's like this....

    Say you are looking for a hooker on Craigslist.  And you see an add for a hot blonde with big tits.  She is $100 an hour and an hour drive away.  And you go but when you get there she is fat has stretch marks.  Most people would just leave.. But some say hell I am here might as well. 

    MO is the fat ugly hooker.  Some people can look past the problems smashing them in the face but most can not.

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,720

    Originally posted by Rohn

    By the way, Cyde is back playing the game - has been for several days.

    Gone for less than 2 weeks before returning.  Doesn't appear to be the huge statement some here were loudly and proudly proclaiming.... 

    LOL  image

    Maybe, just maybe, some people actually DO enjoy playing it.

     Interesting.  He posted a video that he deleted his characters.  Did he make new ones or did SV go and restore them to save a sub?

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  • RohnRohn Member UncommonPosts: 3,730

    Originally posted by Moreplex

    Originally posted by Rohn

    By the way, Cyde is back playing the game - has been for several days.

    Gone for less than 2 weeks before returning.  Doesn't appear to be the huge statement some here were loudly and proudly proclaiming.... 

    LOL  image

    Maybe, just maybe, some people actually DO enjoy playing it.

    I do not think anyone said the people did not enjoy the game that can see past the bugs, corruption, lack of experience by the dev team, no content. 

     

    It's like this....

    Say you are looking for a hooker on Craigslist.  And you see an add for a hot blonde with big tits.  She is $100 an hour and an hour drive away.  And you go but when you get there she is fat has stretch marks.  Most people would just leave.. But some say hell I am here might as well. 

    MO is the fat ugly hooker.  Some people can look past the problems smashing them in the face but most can not.

     

    Or, issues with the game are regularly blown completely out of proportion by those who've allowed a game to hurt them emotionally, as sad as that is.  So much so, they stalk it on the internet just to scream "Whore!" at it whenever possible, selectively repeating the same lines of propaganda over and over and over.

    Just as guys' tastes in women (and gals' tastes in men) often differ from one person to the next, so it is with gaming.

    In any event, for the sake of appearances, those few appeared to agree with Cyde's initial decision to leave, and thought it proved something.  Well, he's decided to return after only a very short time.  Wonder what that proves?

    Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.

  • MoreplexMoreplex Member Posts: 472

    Originally posted by Rohn

    Originally posted by Moreplex


    Originally posted by Rohn

    By the way, Cyde is back playing the game - has been for several days.

    Gone for less than 2 weeks before returning.  Doesn't appear to be the huge statement some here were loudly and proudly proclaiming.... 

    LOL  image

    Maybe, just maybe, some people actually DO enjoy playing it.

    I do not think anyone said the people did not enjoy the game that can see past the bugs, corruption, lack of experience by the dev team, no content. 

     

    It's like this....

    Say you are looking for a hooker on Craigslist.  And you see an add for a hot blonde with big tits.  She is $100 an hour and an hour drive away.  And you go but when you get there she is fat has stretch marks.  Most people would just leave.. But some say hell I am here might as well. 

    MO is the fat ugly hooker.  Some people can look past the problems smashing them in the face but most can not.

     

    Or, issues with the game are regularly blown completely out of proportion by those who've allowed a game to hurt them emotionally, as sad as that is.  So much so, they stalk it on the internet just to scream "Whore!" at it whenever possible, selectively repeating the same lines of propaganda over and over and over.

    Just as guys' tastes in women (and gals' tastes in men) often differ from one person to the next, so it is with gaming.

    In any event, for the sake of appearances, those few appeared to agree with Cyde's initial decision to leave, and thought it proved something.  Well, he's decided to return after only a very short time.  Wonder what that proves?

    You say people blow it out of propotion.  So you are saying fanboys have never tried to cover shit up or act like bugs are not game breaking??  Man I did not know invisible people killing me wasnt game breaking whoooo am I am dumby.

  • deathshrouddeathshroud Member Posts: 1,366

    Originally posted by Slapshot1188

    Originally posted by Rohn

    By the way, Cyde is back playing the game - has been for several days.

    Gone for less than 2 weeks before returning.  Doesn't appear to be the huge statement some here were loudly and proudly proclaiming.... 

    LOL  image

    Maybe, just maybe, some people actually DO enjoy playing it.

     Interesting.  He posted a video that he deleted his characters.  Did he make new ones or did SV go and restore them to save a sub?

     he made new characters, but later sv told him they could restore them if he wanted but he would have to dleete his new characters, in the end he decided to let them restore the characters. He quit the game due to being banned from the forums, he deleted his characters to make sure he iddnt come back. But after the recent patch which addad alot of the content he had been asking for he came back and even made new characters fully prepared to start from scratch.

    there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.

  • MoreplexMoreplex Member Posts: 472

    Originally posted by deathshroud

    Originally posted by Slapshot1188


    Originally posted by Rohn

    By the way, Cyde is back playing the game - has been for several days.

    Gone for less than 2 weeks before returning.  Doesn't appear to be the huge statement some here were loudly and proudly proclaiming.... 

    LOL  image

    Maybe, just maybe, some people actually DO enjoy playing it.

     Interesting.  He posted a video that he deleted his characters.  Did he make new ones or did SV go and restore them to save a sub?

     he made new characters, but later sv told him they could restore them if he wanted but he would have to dleete his new characters, in the end he decided to let them restore the characters. He quit the game due to being banned from the forums, he deleted his characters to make sure he iddnt come back. But after the recent patch which addad alot of the content he had been asking for he came back and even made new characters fully prepared to start from scratch.

    And you think that is ok for the DEV to restore his characters??  And he deleted his stuff after the DAWN patch there has only been bug fixes or bug try to fixes since the content patch. 

    This just adds weight to the gm giving Russian stuff to restart his character as it was too old to actually restore.

  • deathshrouddeathshroud Member Posts: 1,366

    i personally, cant see anything wrong with the devs restoring his characters a week after he deleted them. Lets just hope the devs learnt their lesson from the russian experience, they were to naive and fools to put any trust in  a cheater and hacker what so ever.

    there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.

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