Obi Wan?

Teala

What class would Obi Wan fall into for this game?

Unknown

Originally posted by Teala

What class would Obi Wan fall into for this game?

i believe the folks at bioware see him as a consular

Kanester

Yep, Consular indeed, I think he would fall into the Sage class as Balance spec, I think that is Light saber Pew Pew with a little bit of the force.

I suppose he could also fall under the Jedi Knight class too. Obi is a ledgend

maskedweasel

I see him as a knight.  I see Yoda as a consular.

Gadareth

Originally posted by maskedweasel

I see him as a knight.  I see Yoda as a consular.

I agree Obi Wan was always quick to get into the fight. Look at ALL the films including the original when the chips were down his blade was out.

His mentor and Yoda were more like Consulars.

grunt187

Ummm I'm pretty sure he was a trooper.

zeiden

I think he is both. It's bioware that fucked up by making 2 Jedi classes.  

rygard49

My gut tells me he was a tank spec Guardian. Taking Anakin under his wing he had to keep the hothead out of trouble more often than not.

artemisentr4

A hybrid Jedi Knight Guardian IMO. At least in the prequals. A New Hope had him more of a Consular because of his age and wisdom gained.

Metentso

Originally posted by zeiden

I think he is both. It's bioware that fucked up by making 2 Jedi classes.  

 

This. A Jedi is a Jedi. Period.

Unknown

well technically jedi knight is a rank within the order, whereas consular is one of the 3 branches that jedi decide to train under once they become knights. i believe the three branches are consular, guardian, and sentinel.  personally going off of these i would see obi wan probably as a sentinel in terms of trying to seek a balance between force usage and saber skills, but i could also see qualities of a consular in him.

What Jedi Guardians achieved through combat, Jedi Consulars achieved with words or non-violent use of the Force. Concentrating on mental refinement through study and meditation, Consulars sought to perfect the art of diplomacy and mediation, hoping to calm a tense situation or mend hurt feelings through civil discourse, reasoning, and parley, rather than drawing their lightsabers and cutting down an attacker. While Jedi Consulars would attempt to avoid conflict for as long as possible, the Consulars were sensible and carried a lightsaber, often with a green blade to symbolize their commitment to peace.^[2]

 

now when bioware is talking about movie inspirations for the classes, they often times refer to anakin and mace windu when speaking of knights.  and when speaking of consulars they refer to yoda, qui-gon, and obi-wan.  so if looking a for story more in line with obi-wan i would suggest looking at consular.  and despite not using a double-bladed saber, i could see him as a shadow since its a melee type that uses stealth and sneaking around which in way, is seen being used by obi-wan in the movies(i.e. mind trick and infiltrating the clone facility)

 

just some of my thoughts on the topic

Unshra

Young Obi-Wan: Jedi Knight - Guardian

He's role during the Clone Wars fits a Jedi Guardian to the letter.

Old Obi-Wan: Jedi Consular - Sage

Keep in mind that Jedi Sage was based off of old Obi-Wan and was originally called Wizard (after Obi-Wan) before the fanbase demanded a change and BioWare (thankfully) listened. Personally I can see why, he was no longer a guardian but clearly a sage in the original trilogy.

Teala

So Obi Wan was a Guardian...would that mean Qui-Gon Jinn was a Consular?

fansede

At first I would put myself in the Jedi Guardian camp based on the movies. - You don't see Obi using the force except to push back or telekinesis of objects and occasional mind trick. Then bioware decided to toss us a little innuendo in their last video - the last scene reminds me of Revenge of the Sith..

Isturi

Originally posted by Metentso

Originally posted by zeiden

I think he is both. It's bioware that fucked up by making 2 Jedi classes.  

 

This. A Jedi is a Jedi. Period.

Yum er there has ALWAYS been two Jedi classes. "Always two nothing more." -Yoda

Isturi

Originally posted by Teala

So Obi Wan was a Guardian...would that mean Qui-Gon Jinn was a Consular?

LoL silly Teala in Old Republic terrms yes. But the titles has changed in Obi Wans time during the Star Wars time line. It became Kight and Jedi Master. though when descovered by a Kight  or Master you were considered a padawan. Which if I am not mastaken during the Old Republics time line you would just be considered a "Student of the Force."

 

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Metentso

Originally posted by Isturi

Originally posted by Metentso

Originally posted by zeiden

I think he is both. It's bioware that fucked up by making 2 Jedi classes.  

 

This. A Jedi is a Jedi. Period.

Yum er there has ALWAYS been two Jedi classes. "Always two nothing more." -Yoda

What.. that's master and padawan, right? Not two classes.

Teala

Originally posted by Isturi

Originally posted by Teala

So Obi Wan was a Guardian...would that mean Qui-Gon Jinn was a Consular?

LoL silly Teala in Old Republic terrms yes. But the tites has changed in Obi Wans time during the Star Wars time line. It became Kight and Jedi Master. though when descovered by a Kight  or Master you were considered a padawan. Which if I am not mastaken during the Old Republics time line you would just be considered a "Student of the Force."

OK cool...just wanted to get things square.   It is hard to figure out what they are getting at in terms of specialization and stuff.   ^_^ 

Obi Wan has always been my favorite Jedi.  

Isturi

Originally posted by Metentso

Originally posted by Isturi

Originally posted by Metentso

Originally posted by zeiden

I think he is both. It's bioware that fucked up by making 2 Jedi classes.  

 

This. A Jedi is a Jedi. Period.

Yum er there has ALWAYS been two Jedi classes. "Always two nothing more." -Yoda

What.. that's master and padawan, right? Not two classes.

LoL right i caught my mistake and did a updated post TY

Isturi

@ Teala I hope you are goign to play. I think you will enjoy ToR as much as I am.

Unknown

this is a bit off topic, but for anyone interested in playing one of the jedis, i recommend watching the Designing the Light Side video.  it gives a good insight into what kind of stories you will be looking at.  no spoilers or anything, just how the writers approached the classes.

4getting2009

The PnP Star Wars game that KOTOR based it's system on had Obi Wan as a Guardian and Yoda as a Consular. Yes that is where those classes come from.

Elikal

It was 3500 years later. I guess even the Jedi Order had their NGE and merged the classes.

Unshra

Originally posted by Isturi

Originally posted by Teala

So Obi Wan was a Guardian...would that mean Qui-Gon Jinn was a Consular?

LoL silly Teala in Old Republic terrms yes. But the titles has changed in Obi Wans time during the Star Wars time line. It became Kight and Jedi Master. though when descovered by a Kight  or Master you were considered a padawan. Which if I am not mastaken during the Old Republics time line you would just be considered a "Student of the Force."

 

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This is wrong, in the Old Republic (and before) the Jedi Order had Jedi Initiates (Younglings), Jedi Padawans, Jedi Knights and Jedi Masters. This has always been the way in that era, the classes in Star Wars: The Old Republic have nothing to do with the orders ranks, when you play the game you will start off as a Jedi Padawan and under go your trial to become a Jedi Knight, your class does not change this.

 

 

The closest thing the classes come to are Jedi specializations, these are positions open to Jedi after they pass the trail but does not denote a rank just their job (task) focus. Commonly known specializations are Consular, Sentinel and Guardian, under each specialization were several rolls for example a Jedi Consular could be an Jedi Ambassador, Jedi Diplomat, Jedi healer, Jedi Lore Keeper, Jedi Researcher, Jedi Seer.

 

 

All of this information is available on one single wiki page so I won’t ramble on any further about it, if you want to know more you can read it here: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jedi

 

 

So to answer your question Teala the classes in SWTOR are more like Jedi specializations and they are "not" ranks with in the order. The ranks have basicly always been what you saw in the movies (assuming you watched all of them). Also as for the rule of two that only applied to the Sith, but that's another story.

 

 

I hope that answers your questions Teala.

Storched

Bioware classified him as a consular. I have no idea why. It's pretty obvious he is a knight since he is focused more on lightsaber combat. They should have used Obi Wan as the knight and Yoda as the consular.

arieste

i agree with the folks that says Obi-Wan = Knight, Yoda = Consular.  at least that's the closest peg given that those titles aren't actually used in the film era.