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tsdbhg
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I don't know if this will be kicked to the off topic forum or not. My intent is to find a great isp for my online gaming needs. All I will be doing is mmorpgs.
I know alot of people care about how fast their internet connection downloads. But I care about having fast enough upload speeds so as the latency between my computer and the game server are as low as possible. I have done a lot of research and still can't find anything that completely makes me devoted to get that service. One other major thing is I don't want to have to compete with bandwidth at peek times of the day. I know that DSL and Wireless provide these kind of services.
With all my research I am under the impression that Wireless Broadband might be my best choice for low latency if there is a tower near my antenna with a clear line of sight.
I live in Miramar CA. which is in San Diego. If anyone in this area is using a specific service that is under the price of $100 and you have a great latency without having to compete for bandwidth, please let me know what your stats are and which provider you use.
Oh yes one more thing. Please leave intelligent responses. I dont want to be disapointed to find a post that says "use cable" as the only line in the post.
ALIAS MORDTOD
ALIAS MORDTOD
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Coming to an international forum to request assistance for a localized problem does not set the standard for intelligent responses.
Coming to an international forum to request assistance for a localized problem does not set the standard for intelligent responses.
Fist off this is not a localized problem. It isn't even a problem. I just want information to find the lowest latency broadband service and maybe find the best provider in my area at the same time. I actually want people from all around the world to post thier knowledge/oppinion on this subject. The reason I put my location was I figured I might be able to knock out 2 birds with 1 stone. I might have been lucky enough to have someone who lives in my area give me all the information that I need.
Oh and 1 more thing before I finish this. Sinse you seem to know it all.... Can you explain to me what the standard for intelligent responses is? Because... heh... I missed that course in college.
ALIAS MORDTOD
ALIAS MORDTOD
If you are looking for something under $100/month, I'm not sure why you have T1 listed in your poll.
Also, latency and bandwidth are two distinctly different things. When you're speaking of people's download speeds in relation to their upload speeds, you're actually talking about volume of data you are sending/receiving, which is your bandwidth. When you ping a server, the time it takes for the ping to leave your system, hit the destination system and come back, that is latency. Take satellite internet for instance. The latency on satellite internet is REALLY high because, obviously it takes a long time for your packet to leave your house, hit the satellite and rebound back to earth. But, when your're on a satellite intenet connection, your initial request to hit a web page or whatever takes a while due to the latency. But once your request is processed, the data is sent to you at a rate anywhere from 500Kbps-1Mbps. But, if you had 2 PC's right next to each other, one on satellite internet with a 1Mbps satellite and the other on 1Mbps DSL and went to the same website, the DSL system would load the page faster than the satellite one due to the lower latency.
Out of all of the broadband listings in your poll, a T1 would give you the lowest latency, but not necessarily the best bandwidth. A T1 will get you 1.54 Mbps upload and download speeds and probably a latency of around 5-20ms but I believe SDSL can go up to 2.3 Mbps upload/download speeds but have a latency closer to the 20-50ms range.
So, basically it comes down to this. If you're going to be sending alot of small amounts of data, you're going to want the low latency. If you're going to be sending huge chunks of data, you're going to want a higher throughput (bandwidth). That being said, when you look at MMORPG's and the volume of data they send, there's very minimal amount of upstream data (your upload speed), but the downstream data (your download speed) could be significant (patches, expansions, etc).
Now, as to what internet connection works best for this? I don't think you're going to see much of a difference between cable and DSL. I think both will perform quite well. Satellite would be the worst choice for a gamer. The ping latency on satellite connection would lag your command to the game and basically make it unplayable (as a side note, if you ever have a VPN connection, don't choose satellite either. VPN tunnels rely on a significant amount of small packets, which with satellite latency, makes for an AWFUL connection). A T1 would work quite well too as a gamer, but, the costs of one of those is usually outside the price range of your average Joe.
Tsdbhg, I also live in cali, about 15 minutes south of san francisco. I am assuming that you have SBC phone service, or that it is available in your area. Currently SBC is teamed up with Yahoo for a DSL service that costs $19.95 a month. This is for a year long plan to it, and the $19.95 lasts for the whole plan, not just for the first 3 months like other plans.
I got SBC Yahoo DSL when it was $30 a month ( about 2 weeks after i got it, the price went down to $19.95, lucky me since I have to pay 10 bucks more, oh well
). I get great latency in online games and im wireless right now.
When you purchase the DSL, they either send you a kit, or you go to a store (such as Best Buy where i did mine) and you purchase the kit. They give you rebates to basically cover the whole cost so it is pretty much free to buy. When i purchased mine i also recieved $100 in Best Buy gift certificates. If you do the self installation kit, it is very easy to do. You just hook up the modem to the PC and place filters on all of the telephone lines and then set it up on your computer. Wireless is fairly easy, but you will have to set that up on your own as the SBC kit doesnt include a wireless router.
Hope this helped. BTW, the download speeds on average i get from places with secure servers such as fileplanet are 160kbs, and im on the lowest speed plan. When i play WoW my latency is always in the green, and in games such as CS Source it can be as low as 30 or higher (depending on how close the server is to you)
This is a great service for the price/rebates/ease of installation. Go to the SBC website or maybe Yahoo and you can find it. Good luck.
Then why ask for that which you clearly cannot define?Well here we go. You started it, now its finished. If anyone with a brain cell or two can clearly see that my post has the words "Intelligent Responses". While your post has the words "Standard for Intelligent Responses". But you are half right with your statement. I can't define "Standard for Intelligent Responses", because your the only one in the world to seem to know the answer. So enlighten our minds with your Standard Intelligent Response. Please.
Oh and thank the rest of you for helping out. I do know the difference between bandwidth and latency by the way. From what I read one of the reasons why latency was an issue was due to the fact that with some services upload speads were not as fast as download speeds. I was informed that a few services provide just as fast upload as download, which was Wireless Broadband and DSL in some instances. But thank you for your information. Every little bit helps.
ALIAS MORDTOD
I use dsl which is good and I get no lag. T1 is the best though, but really expensive.
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I wouldn't compare the services themselves, so much as whos providing them. About 5 years ago when I first got broadband, I got DSL. It was HORRIBLE. I got so many d/cs and lag spikes it ended up being worse then dial-up. 6 months later I got cable, and in the 4 or so years I've had it, i've only lost my connection for more then a few minutes a handful of times.
So really, its not about the service itself, its how good is it in your area?
well im currently on cable. Ive got around a 1.7 meg download and 1 meg upload. i dont lagg on any games and have around a 50 average latency. now if you want hardcore internet get an OC-255 provider (if there is one) it runs at about 13.21 Gbps. heh >_> wonder how much that would cost a second.
Coming to an international forum to request assistance for a localized problem does not set the standard for intelligent responses.
Well I am U.S. and I'm sure a good percentage of this community are U.S. Based from what I've seen. Anyway, I've used cable extensively with several providers. It really makes a difference who your provider is. Ie. Comcast is fast, but expensive, I am currently using a local Cable through the Utility company where I live and it's slower, only about 150mbps, but I get 5 TCPIP addresses, one for each computer in my household, and I only pay about 60 bucks. Thus it can vary a lot, but from the people whose computers I service, I see a great deal more stability in cable connections than DSL and there is no need to run separate communication or login services to get in. Also, with these types of cable connections, there is no chance of your ISP booting your login after inactivity etc.
Basically, I will always use cable where I'm at, but you should look into which is the best plan, because both high speed services will work for MMO's, but look at features also. And if you ever plan to add additional TCPIP addresses for other computers, the cable tends to be cheaper to do this. Main reasons for doing this would be the ability to two-box or get online with a second computer to check email/IM/game site info etc. Good luck on your choice.
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The bad thing about having a flight like mmo with twitch based controls(well what most say) is that the faster the objects go, the less likley the internet will accurately calculate the movement. It's what you call lag. Now in a mmo twitch based or not, it doesn't really matter where you are in the world as long as you don't experience some kind of lag compared to first person shooter multiplayer games where players can host their single match games themselves.
Over at vendetta online, a quite few amounts of former hardcore flight simmers are complaining the the ship flew waay to slow.. Well technically it's actually good because they fly slow and the internet can accuratly calculate it.