GW2 brings lots of new things. Dynamic events, a private block in the city that changes based on your choices, the ability to color your armor anything you want (No more clones of ME! ) , a loot system thats non competitive, a world that changes around you based on player interaction, a payment method thats designed so that we pay for content as we feel the need too, and.....dragons.....and stuff.
In fact? Guild Wars 2 just brings the SEXY ! I know Im sexy. Im sure some of you are. And if so this is where you belong.
Or if you're not sexy, but want to be? Buy GW2. Stand in the parking lot with the game box for five minutes. People will be running into things and hurting themselves just trying to turn their necks long enough to take a good long look at you. Why? Because you bought GW2 and are now insanly sexy.
So if you like sexy, are sexy, want to be sexy, or one time wanted more sexy in your life but somehow forgot because of too many cheese burgers, BUY GW2 NAO!
So if you like sexy, are sexy, want to be sexy, or one time wanted more sexy in your life but somehow forgot because of too many cheese burgers, BUY GW2 NAO!
*snip*
I'd love to! Where can I get it 'NAO'? :P
Waiting for Guild Wars 2, and maybe SWTOR until that time...
GW2 brings a very complete package. Building off what they've learned with GW, they've made some well thought out changes to increase the activity and complexity of the user input while leaving the actual interface relatively simple. Dodge mechanics, swappable weapons/skills, and racial skills are a fair tradeoff for the loss of secondary classes, and the vast array of builds and skill combinations in GW1. The PvP should be that much more engaging and yet easier to balance as well.
With Dynamic events, scalable mobs, and full rewards for participation, the PvE will enjoy a welcome shot in the arm. People that are not ready to be social will still be fighting right alongside everyone else without any effort, having their skills compliment others, even if just accidently. The game will play out more like a story, with the players efforts helping to design that story.
B2P and the GW2 store. Many players comment that $15/month is a cheap price to pay in comparison the amount of entertainment received. So you can spend the subsription fee each month and get nothing but the option to play, or you can spend it and get cool stuff. The people are used to spending money to play these games, subscription or cash shop. This is a very viable business model.
WvWvW PvP. Massive PvP battles are my most memorable moments from any game. This could top them all.
Diverse races, great lore, personal storyline, the list just goes on and on. GW2 is full. It's got everything I want to see in my next MMORPG
All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.
I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.
I laughed when you said charr were as smart as asura.
Honestly... do we have to keep doing this fantasy racism thing? This seems to be coming entirely from the sort of people who want to play perfect, white human lords or ladies.
The lore supports me, here. They made internal combustion engines without the use of any magicks, whereas the asura are drawing upon a magical framework laid down by the gods, so the asura are obviously going to develop faster. I would, however, say that both are equally intelligent, yes.
Can we stow the vapid xenophia for just a little bit? Please? This is precisely the sort of thing that gets me down. I know you respect my views in regards to the game, and well... respect this one. There's no reason to view any of the races as being substantially inferior to any of the others. The charr are smart in the field of technology, it's what they have going for them. Just as the asura are smart in the field of magicks, the humans are smart in the filed of politics and the arts, the sylvari are smart in how they can absorb knowledge, and the norn are smart as displayed by their wisdom. (Gullik had some insightful lines in Ghosts of Ascalon.)
I don't see any reason to single the charr out as being idiots unless you're playing the pseudo-racist, and as I've said before I don't think it's long before that pours out into reality, because you don't need a race to be racist, the thing you need first is the sentiment. If you have the belief that one group of peoples can be naturally superior to another simply by the merit of their race, in regards to anything, then you're eventually going to fall into a racist mindset. The seed is there. Don't let that weed grow.
And this xenophobia is really one of the things that makes me the most annoyed and depressed at gamers in general. I'd advise reading up on xenophobia and what it means to understand why I'm levelling it at you. Don't be that. Never be that. I'd like to respect you but I can't if you're doing that.
I voted "new things" because it's the closest option to what I think, though I really wouldn't call most of what they do new. There are actually very few features in GW2 that are new, rather stuff other MMOs promised but never really got to work.
I laughed when you said charr were as smart as asura.
Honestly... do we have to keep doing this fantasy racism thing? This seems to be coming entirely from the sort of people who want to play perfect, white human lords or ladies.
The lore supports me, here. They made internal combustion engines without the use of any magicks, whereas the asura are drawing upon a magical framework laid down by the gods, so the asura are obviously going to develop faster. I would, however, say that both are equally intelligent, yes.
Can we stow the vapid xenophia for just a little bit? Please? This is precisely the sort of thing that gets me down. I know you respect my views in regards to the game, and well... respect this one. There's no reason to view any of the races as being substantially inferior to any of the others. The charr are smart in the field of technology, it's what they have going for them. Just as the asura are smart in the field of magicks, the humans are smart in the filed of politics and the arts, the sylvari are smart in how they can absorb knowledge, and the norn are smart as displayed by their wisdom. (Gullik had some insightful lines in Ghosts of Ascalon.)
I don't see any reason to single the charr out as being idiots unless you're playing the pseudo-racist, and as I've said before I don't think it's long before that pours out into reality, because you don't need a race to be racist, the thing you need first is the sentiment. If you have the belief that one group of peoples can be naturally superior to another simply by the merit of their race, in regards to anything, then you're eventually going to fall into a racist mindset. The seed is there. Don't let that weed grow.
And this xenophobia is really one of the things that makes me the most annoyed and depressed at gamers in general. I'd advise reading up on xenophobia and what it means to understand why I'm levelling it at you. Don't be that. Never be that. I'd like to respect you but I can't if you're doing that.
I'm all for having different opinions and whatnot, but anybody who doesn't vote for the first option is misinformed or underinformed about the game. Thankfully they've come to the right place.
Not exactly, now they do advertise a lof of new "concepts", which is great. However it really comes down to how it feels, if it feels familiar it's really not "new". You can hand me any list of new features, on paper it might all sound groundbreakingly new, that doesn't make it so. Execution is key, so an undecided vote is perfectly understandable.
On paper AOC sounded new, as did WAR. Neither had a new feeling, outside of AOC's combat system, or WAR'S level your way from 1 to cap in PVP. All in all though it all felt familiar.
Sure GW2 has some aspects that haven't really been in MMO's, like dodging in combat, that will change things up in some regard. To me though that's more gimmicky than something groundbreaking though.
The video you linked to me last night as an example where they describe DE's, and how people were approaching them. Now don't read me wrong, but from that video it sounds as if they backtracked a tad bit in how they were executing these things. To a more questing oriented experience.
While that approach doesn't change how DE's are executed it could change how it feels to run into one. For me who likes questing that might actually be a good thing. On the other hand for those looking for something completely different, it might not be. Sure they can ignore npc's and find them on their own, but, A-net t said themselves players are conditioned into talking to NPC's with symbols above their head. This is a double edged blade IMO. As it does solve one sides problem, yet introduces anothers. If one side is conditioned, so is the other, and that could be a turn off for them IMO.
Like I said though it all comes down to execution in the end.
To SB fans, please stop making our demographic look bad.Stop invading threads that have nothing to do with sandboxes.
Not exactly, now they do advertise a lof of new "concepts", which is great. However it really comes down to how it feels, if it feels familiar it's really not "new". You can hand me any list of new features, on paper it might all sound groundbreakingly new, that doesn't make it so. Execution is key, so an undecided vote is perfectly understandable.
On paper AOC sounded new, as did WAR. Neither had a new feeling, outside of AOC's combat system, or WAR'S level your way from 1 to cap in PVP. All in all though it all felt familiar.
Sure GW2 has some aspects that haven't really been in MMO's, like dodging in combat, that will change things up in some regard. To me though that's more gimmicky than something groundbreaking though.
The video you linked to me last night as an example where they describe DE's, and how people were approaching them. Now don't read me wrong, but from that video it sounds as if they backtracked a tad bit in how they were executing these things. To a more questing oriented experience.
While that approach doesn't change how DE's are executed it could change how it feels to run into one. For me who likes questing that might actually be a good thing. On the other hand for those looking for something completely different, it might not be. Sure they can ignore npc's and find them on their own, but, A-net t said themselves players are conditioned into talking to NPC's with symbols above their head. This is a double edged blade IMO. As it does solve one sides problem, yet introduces anothers. If one side is conditioned, so is the other, and that could be a turn off for them IMO.
Like I said though it all comes down to execution in the end.
Thousands of players have already experienced the content. They've been having public conventions for 2 years now. For the majority of the mechanics, we already know how it is executed. The only thing that could change is if they decide to remove mechanics altogether.
The last part we are still trying to play is the PvP. But other than that, we've had loads of experience with events, stories, bosses, combat, underwater, and even some in dungeons.
Again, anyone whos been to the convention will tell you, the game isn't perfect yet, but the mechanics are pretty solid as they are right now. Even if they totally abandon updating and refining the mechanics, they would still be usable. The only things that need work on is animation, balance, some minor issues.
Edit: It's no longer how it looks on paper. A better reference would just be to ask the players who played it or the various gaming sites that took a try at it.
some people are just angry because they are still hyping the last gen MMO's and it must be physically painful to see people excited for a better game. the haters have seen all the gameplay same as you and anyone else, no point wasting your time on them.
some people are just angry because they are still hyping the last gen MMO's and it must be physically painful to see people excited for a better game. the haters have seen all the gameplay same as you and anyone else, no point wasting your time on them.
Really? I mean really? I don't have tunnel vision for one game like ..cough..some^^^..., I have love for them all, so I sincerly hope you're not talking about what I said.
To SB fans, please stop making our demographic look bad.Stop invading threads that have nothing to do with sandboxes.
some people are just angry because they are still hyping the last gen MMO's and it must be physically painful to see people excited for a better game. the haters have seen all the gameplay same as you and anyone else, no point wasting your time on them.
Really? I mean really? I don't have tunnel vision for one game like ..cough..some^^^..., I have love for them all, so I sincerly hope you're not talking about what I said.
hmm, didn't read your post so i can't say yet. were you expressing doubt, or were you trollan with strawmen and saying that game XYZ has done it all before?
some people are just angry because they are still hyping the last gen MMO's and it must be physically painful to see people excited for a better game. the haters have seen all the gameplay same as you and anyone else, no point wasting your time on them.
Really? I mean really? I don't have tunnel vision for one game like ..cough..some^^^..., I have love for them all, so I sincerly hope you're not talking about what I said.
hmm, didn't read your post so i can't say yet. were you expressing doubt, or were you trollan with strawmen and saying that game XYZ has done it all before?
I was replying to a person who said anyone who doesn't vote for option 1 is misinformed. With a reply of an undecided vote even if informed is understandable.
To SB fans, please stop making our demographic look bad.Stop invading threads that have nothing to do with sandboxes.
some people are just angry because they are still hyping the last gen MMO's and it must be physically painful to see people excited for a better game. the haters have seen all the gameplay same as you and anyone else, no point wasting your time on them.
Really? I mean really? I don't have tunnel vision for one game like ..cough..some^^^..., I have love for them all, so I sincerly hope you're not talking about what I said.
hmm, didn't read your post so i can't say yet. were you expressing doubt, or were you trollan with strawmen and saying that game XYZ has done it all before?
I was replying to a person who said anyone who doesn't vote for option 1 is misinformed. With a reply of an undecided vote even if informed is understandable.
undecided is no problem at all. to be honest the PvP will make or break the game for me.
Speaking for myself, it's easy to maintain the hype when ANet continuously follows through on what they say they will do. It also helps that I like what they say. Take the Sylvari redesign. Even if you're not impressed, ANet followed through on exactly what they said they would do, even though they were scoffed at because it seemed like such a monumental task to take on so late in the development cycle.
ArenaNet has spent years earning my trust and they've done nothing yet to betray it. If only everyone involved in the game industry had half the integrity. For one, EA wouldn't exist.
You may disagree with the decisions, which is totally fair, but understand that those who are willing to take ANet's words at face value, do so because we've yet to regret it. The true test will come on release day, but I've seen enough to no longer wait for the other shoe to drop.
Originally posted by Dream_Chaser Originally posted by Dubhlaith I laughed when you said charr were as smart as asura.
Honestly... do we have to keep doing this fantasy racism thing? This seems to be coming entirely from the sort of people who want to play perfect, white human lords or ladies. The lore supports me, here. They made internal combustion engines without the use of any magicks, whereas the asura are drawing upon a magical framework laid down by the gods, so the asura are obviously going to develop faster. I would, however, say that both are equally intelligent, yes. Can we stow the vapid xenophia for just a little bit? Please? This is precisely the sort of thing that gets me down. I know you respect my views in regards to the game, and well... respect this one. There's no reason to view any of the races as being substantially inferior to any of the others. The charr are smart in the field of technology, it's what they have going for them. Just as the asura are smart in the field of magicks, the humans are smart in the filed of politics and the arts, the sylvari are smart in how they can absorb knowledge, and the norn are smart as displayed by their wisdom. (Gullik had some insightful lines in Ghosts of Ascalon.) I don't see any reason to single the charr out as being idiots unless you're playing the pseudo-racist, and as I've said before I don't think it's long before that pours out into reality, because you don't need a race to be racist, the thing you need first is the sentiment. If you have the belief that one group of peoples can be naturally superior to another simply by the merit of their race, in regards to anything, then you're eventually going to fall into a racist mindset. The seed is there. Don't let that weed grow. And this xenophobia is really one of the things that makes me the most annoyed and depressed at gamers in general. I'd advise reading up on xenophobia and what it means to understand why I'm levelling it at you. Don't be that. Never be that. I'd like to respect you but I can't if you're doing that.
This is pretty ironic, not least because the entire rest of my post was spend agreeing with you completely. That was a joke, largely because asura are so haughty about being smarter than everyone else, and I thought someone who knows so much about Guild Wars would laugh. Sorry.
But you seem to be the one spreading ideas of racism and xenophobia and tension where they do not exist. I didn't single charr out. You did, and you consistently do. No one else brings up charr and racism as much as you do. What I have seen in the real world is that the biggest thing that keeps racism alive is talking about it, instead of embracing our differences as positives, and accepting each other for who and what we are. You consistently bring up the spectre of racial issues in places where they do not belong, and it is getting old. I find it is pretty easy to spot a racist, and I am very insulted, after interactions with me, you might think that of me.
I find that racism happens more easily if we try to pretend everyone and every race is the same, because they are not. When you try to act like every race is the same, then you are more likely to face racism from people who see the differences, and then perceive them as negatives or deficiencies.
Again, I agree with what you are actually saying, which is the races can all be quite smart, in different fields. But my point is that you brought up the fear of racism in a place where it never existed until you mentioned it. That actually perpetuates racism, which I doubt you want to you. You seem be be on some crusade, but I fear you are probably working against your own cause.
I have found that gamers are actually generally more accepting of others than many other groups, even though they talk a lot of trash to each other much of the time. And gamers joke a lot with each other. And you you can't take a simple joke, then you are taking the issue, and yourself, far too seriously, and that is a real problem too.
And I really, really hate being called vapid. I get that somtimes because of my looks, and it gets old. Really old. That's prejudice. Having to fight to prove to men that I'm as smart or as tough or as dedicated. Men assuming I can't do something simply because I am a woman. It does happen. I do know what you are talking about.
All that said, in addition to the brilliant lore, the well-written client, the innovations in gameplay and social mechanics, Guild Wars is bringing a community. A community of people that I have found to be intelligent and insightful and understanding, and many of them probably come from Guild Wars the first. The fact that you care so much about what other people in the community think is a good thing, because we are all going to be one large community, and the ability to discuss things like this is a hallmark of a good community. And I find this in GW right now, too. Yes, there are some not so nice things, but for the most part, it is a very open and mature community, and that can only be good for retention of gamers in the long term.
Not to mention that the game's story and lore is so well-written that issues like this seem to hit home for people, and we can relate it so easily to the real world. That's damn good storytelling. That discussions about this game can spark discussions like this speaks to its power amongst us, and that's incredible.
"Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true you know it, and they know it." Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007
1. Not sure if content will come at a fast enough pace. They have to prove it to me.
2. This is a MMO not a CORPG or whatever so they have to prove it works like I expect it to
3. Mechanics only based encounters with no direct healer sound cool, but is it just a zerg fest or does it just revolutionize the genre
4. Dynamic Events and some 5 mans as end game sound cool, but are they rewarding enough for me to even remotely care
5. Consequences for my actions sound cool in a single player RPG but in a MMORPG that is not all about me me me does it work.
u may get this a lot, but you should probably look these things up. not only have they "proven" all of this, but theyve gone beyond people's expectations.
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GW2 brings lots of new things. Dynamic events, a private block in the city that changes based on your choices, the ability to color your armor anything you want (No more clones of ME! ) , a loot system thats non competitive, a world that changes around you based on player interaction, a payment method thats designed so that we pay for content as we feel the need too, and.....dragons.....and stuff.
In fact? Guild Wars 2 just brings the SEXY ! I know Im sexy. Im sure some of you are. And if so this is where you belong.
Or if you're not sexy, but want to be? Buy GW2. Stand in the parking lot with the game box for five minutes. People will be running into things and hurting themselves just trying to turn their necks long enough to take a good long look at you. Why? Because you bought GW2 and are now insanly sexy.
So if you like sexy, are sexy, want to be sexy, or one time wanted more sexy in your life but somehow forgot because of too many cheese burgers, BUY GW2 NAO!
GW2 = Sexy
I'd love to! Where can I get it 'NAO'? :P
Waiting for Guild Wars 2, and maybe SWTOR until that time...
GW2 brings a very complete package. Building off what they've learned with GW, they've made some well thought out changes to increase the activity and complexity of the user input while leaving the actual interface relatively simple. Dodge mechanics, swappable weapons/skills, and racial skills are a fair tradeoff for the loss of secondary classes, and the vast array of builds and skill combinations in GW1. The PvP should be that much more engaging and yet easier to balance as well.
With Dynamic events, scalable mobs, and full rewards for participation, the PvE will enjoy a welcome shot in the arm. People that are not ready to be social will still be fighting right alongside everyone else without any effort, having their skills compliment others, even if just accidently. The game will play out more like a story, with the players efforts helping to design that story.
B2P and the GW2 store. Many players comment that $15/month is a cheap price to pay in comparison the amount of entertainment received. So you can spend the subsription fee each month and get nothing but the option to play, or you can spend it and get cool stuff. The people are used to spending money to play these games, subscription or cash shop. This is a very viable business model.
WvWvW PvP. Massive PvP battles are my most memorable moments from any game. This could top them all.
Diverse races, great lore, personal storyline, the list just goes on and on. GW2 is full. It's got everything I want to see in my next MMORPG
All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.
I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.
I don't hate much, but I hate Apple© with a passion. If Steve Jobs was alive, I would punch him in the face.
Honestly... do we have to keep doing this fantasy racism thing? This seems to be coming entirely from the sort of people who want to play perfect, white human lords or ladies.
The lore supports me, here. They made internal combustion engines without the use of any magicks, whereas the asura are drawing upon a magical framework laid down by the gods, so the asura are obviously going to develop faster. I would, however, say that both are equally intelligent, yes.
Can we stow the vapid xenophia for just a little bit? Please? This is precisely the sort of thing that gets me down. I know you respect my views in regards to the game, and well... respect this one. There's no reason to view any of the races as being substantially inferior to any of the others. The charr are smart in the field of technology, it's what they have going for them. Just as the asura are smart in the field of magicks, the humans are smart in the filed of politics and the arts, the sylvari are smart in how they can absorb knowledge, and the norn are smart as displayed by their wisdom. (Gullik had some insightful lines in Ghosts of Ascalon.)
I don't see any reason to single the charr out as being idiots unless you're playing the pseudo-racist, and as I've said before I don't think it's long before that pours out into reality, because you don't need a race to be racist, the thing you need first is the sentiment. If you have the belief that one group of peoples can be naturally superior to another simply by the merit of their race, in regards to anything, then you're eventually going to fall into a racist mindset. The seed is there. Don't let that weed grow.
And this xenophobia is really one of the things that makes me the most annoyed and depressed at gamers in general. I'd advise reading up on xenophobia and what it means to understand why I'm levelling it at you. Don't be that. Never be that. I'd like to respect you but I can't if you're doing that.
I voted "new things" because it's the closest option to what I think, though I really wouldn't call most of what they do new. There are actually very few features in GW2 that are new, rather stuff other MMOs promised but never really got to work.
Its because Charr's are furballs
"I am not a robot. I am a unicorn."
Not exactly, now they do advertise a lof of new "concepts", which is great. However it really comes down to how it feels, if it feels familiar it's really not "new". You can hand me any list of new features, on paper it might all sound groundbreakingly new, that doesn't make it so. Execution is key, so an undecided vote is perfectly understandable.
On paper AOC sounded new, as did WAR. Neither had a new feeling, outside of AOC's combat system, or WAR'S level your way from 1 to cap in PVP. All in all though it all felt familiar.
Sure GW2 has some aspects that haven't really been in MMO's, like dodging in combat, that will change things up in some regard. To me though that's more gimmicky than something groundbreaking though.
The video you linked to me last night as an example where they describe DE's, and how people were approaching them. Now don't read me wrong, but from that video it sounds as if they backtracked a tad bit in how they were executing these things. To a more questing oriented experience.
While that approach doesn't change how DE's are executed it could change how it feels to run into one. For me who likes questing that might actually be a good thing. On the other hand for those looking for something completely different, it might not be. Sure they can ignore npc's and find them on their own, but, A-net t said themselves players are conditioned into talking to NPC's with symbols above their head. This is a double edged blade IMO. As it does solve one sides problem, yet introduces anothers. If one side is conditioned, so is the other, and that could be a turn off for them IMO.
Like I said though it all comes down to execution in the end.
To SB fans, please stop making our demographic look bad.Stop invading threads that have nothing to do with sandboxes.
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SW:TOR Compare MMO Quests, Combat and More...
Thousands of players have already experienced the content. They've been having public conventions for 2 years now. For the majority of the mechanics, we already know how it is executed. The only thing that could change is if they decide to remove mechanics altogether.
The last part we are still trying to play is the PvP. But other than that, we've had loads of experience with events, stories, bosses, combat, underwater, and even some in dungeons.
Again, anyone whos been to the convention will tell you, the game isn't perfect yet, but the mechanics are pretty solid as they are right now. Even if they totally abandon updating and refining the mechanics, they would still be usable. The only things that need work on is animation, balance, some minor issues.
Edit: It's no longer how it looks on paper. A better reference would just be to ask the players who played it or the various gaming sites that took a try at it.
some people are just angry because they are still hyping the last gen MMO's and it must be physically painful to see people excited for a better game. the haters have seen all the gameplay same as you and anyone else, no point wasting your time on them.
Really? I mean really? I don't have tunnel vision for one game like ..cough..some^^^..., I have love for them all, so I sincerly hope you're not talking about what I said.
To SB fans, please stop making our demographic look bad.Stop invading threads that have nothing to do with sandboxes.
SW:TOR Graphics Evolution and Comparison
SW:TOR Compare MMO Quests, Combat and More...
Now this thread makes sense.
hmm, didn't read your post so i can't say yet. were you expressing doubt, or were you trollan with strawmen and saying that game XYZ has done it all before?
I was replying to a person who said anyone who doesn't vote for option 1 is misinformed. With a reply of an undecided vote even if informed is understandable.
To SB fans, please stop making our demographic look bad.Stop invading threads that have nothing to do with sandboxes.
SW:TOR Graphics Evolution and Comparison
SW:TOR Compare MMO Quests, Combat and More...
undecided is no problem at all. to be honest the PvP will make or break the game for me.
THIS^^^^^^.
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The lore supports me, here. They made internal combustion engines without the use of any magicks, whereas the asura are drawing upon a magical framework laid down by the gods, so the asura are obviously going to develop faster. I would, however, say that both are equally intelligent, yes.
Can we stow the vapid xenophia for just a little bit? Please? This is precisely the sort of thing that gets me down. I know you respect my views in regards to the game, and well... respect this one. There's no reason to view any of the races as being substantially inferior to any of the others. The charr are smart in the field of technology, it's what they have going for them. Just as the asura are smart in the field of magicks, the humans are smart in the filed of politics and the arts, the sylvari are smart in how they can absorb knowledge, and the norn are smart as displayed by their wisdom. (Gullik had some insightful lines in Ghosts of Ascalon.)
I don't see any reason to single the charr out as being idiots unless you're playing the pseudo-racist, and as I've said before I don't think it's long before that pours out into reality, because you don't need a race to be racist, the thing you need first is the sentiment. If you have the belief that one group of peoples can be naturally superior to another simply by the merit of their race, in regards to anything, then you're eventually going to fall into a racist mindset. The seed is there. Don't let that weed grow.
And this xenophobia is really one of the things that makes me the most annoyed and depressed at gamers in general. I'd advise reading up on xenophobia and what it means to understand why I'm levelling it at you. Don't be that. Never be that. I'd like to respect you but I can't if you're doing that.
This is pretty ironic, not least because the entire rest of my post was spend agreeing with you completely. That was a joke, largely because asura are so haughty about being smarter than everyone else, and I thought someone who knows so much about Guild Wars would laugh. Sorry.
But you seem to be the one spreading ideas of racism and xenophobia and tension where they do not exist. I didn't single charr out. You did, and you consistently do. No one else brings up charr and racism as much as you do. What I have seen in the real world is that the biggest thing that keeps racism alive is talking about it, instead of embracing our differences as positives, and accepting each other for who and what we are. You consistently bring up the spectre of racial issues in places where they do not belong, and it is getting old. I find it is pretty easy to spot a racist, and I am very insulted, after interactions with me, you might think that of me.
I find that racism happens more easily if we try to pretend everyone and every race is the same, because they are not. When you try to act like every race is the same, then you are more likely to face racism from people who see the differences, and then perceive them as negatives or deficiencies.
Again, I agree with what you are actually saying, which is the races can all be quite smart, in different fields. But my point is that you brought up the fear of racism in a place where it never existed until you mentioned it. That actually perpetuates racism, which I doubt you want to you. You seem be be on some crusade, but I fear you are probably working against your own cause.
I have found that gamers are actually generally more accepting of others than many other groups, even though they talk a lot of trash to each other much of the time. And gamers joke a lot with each other. And you you can't take a simple joke, then you are taking the issue, and yourself, far too seriously, and that is a real problem too.
And I really, really hate being called vapid. I get that somtimes because of my looks, and it gets old. Really old. That's prejudice. Having to fight to prove to men that I'm as smart or as tough or as dedicated. Men assuming I can't do something simply because I am a woman. It does happen. I do know what you are talking about.
All that said, in addition to the brilliant lore, the well-written client, the innovations in gameplay and social mechanics, Guild Wars is bringing a community. A community of people that I have found to be intelligent and insightful and understanding, and many of them probably come from Guild Wars the first. The fact that you care so much about what other people in the community think is a good thing, because we are all going to be one large community, and the ability to discuss things like this is a hallmark of a good community. And I find this in GW right now, too. Yes, there are some not so nice things, but for the most part, it is a very open and mature community, and that can only be good for retention of gamers in the long term.
Not to mention that the game's story and lore is so well-written that issues like this seem to hit home for people, and we can relate it so easily to the real world. That's damn good storytelling. That discussions about this game can spark discussions like this speaks to its power amongst us, and that's incredible.
"Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true you know it, and they know it." Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007
WTF? No subscription fee?
Guild Wars 2 brings....IT! If ya smelllallelelellllll what arena net are cookin'
Guild Wars 2 brings out a lot of fanboys who take this whole thing way too seriously.
Thankfully it also brings out a lot of players who just want to have a good time, more so than most other MMOs I've seen in the past.
u may get this a lot, but you should probably look these things up. not only have they "proven" all of this, but theyve gone beyond people's expectations.