Look one month and 6 months out for a better perspective. MMORPG games are still topping the list.
Also look at what else is out to play. Many of the quote "hot" games are only hot because there is f-all else to play atm. Some of these games are true cookie cutter clones or just pure crap but are on the hype meter becuase everything else is stale/old.
I have only 1 prediction, and that is that SWTOR will die out to a minimum after the first 6 mounth, and then there will only be a small player database left.
- Keep this post in your mail, return to it in 6 mounth after release and you will say, he was right ( I may add, again as before on other games )
You tend to forget why games die out. The core stuff looks to be there and the base audience is there. It is up to Bioware to make content fast enough. The biggest doubt with SWToR currently is can the game adjust fast enough to what the audience wants.
Do you live under a rock? TOR is more populat than you know. The only reason it's dropping in hype is because of the lack of info regarding release and a monthly pricing moduel.
The only list I use right now is the hype meter. I've been watching it for sometime and find it an interesting indicator. Its obviously not perfect since different lists from different sites will vary differently. However, if you trend the games on this site alone, you can gauge this communities 'hype activity'. In this case, I do agree that SWTOR has been dropping. I do not believe its becoming less popular, but new games have come on the horizon and its natural for those games to get a bump.
I don't think that the hype meter is a perfect tool, but I enjoy seeing the trends from this one community.
I have only 1 prediction, and that is that SWTOR will die out to a minimum after the first 6 mounth, and then there will only be a small player database left.
- Keep this post in your mail, return to it in 6 mounth after release and you will say, he was right ( I may add, again as before on other games )
This title is old 34 years?..imagine how big is fan base so your predictions falling in water.
Currently playing: Elder Scrolls Online MMORPG experiences:EQ2, AoC(pre f2p), Lotro,GW1,DDO, Aion,WoW( stop with wotlk),Allods, GW2 Eu,War, Secret World
Waiting On: WoD Sometime Maybe: Elder Scrolls MMO, Might and Magic
We would be lucky if 10% of the mmo players in the world have visited this site once. Hype meter means nothing,
It doesn't mean anything within the larger population. However it does mean something within the sampling pool. Lets take your 10% number as an example. No, lets make it more strict, say 1% of the MMO community visits the site. Fine. That 1% is 100% on the site. So you can trend that 1% in the greater community and 100% within the sub community. Within this sub community we see clearly that SWTOR has dropped in hype. (Before everyone thinks I am negative towards SWTOR, I've already pre-ordered and looking forward to it).
The next question becomes how does this community reflect the larger community, That question is highly debatable for sure. I believe that its pretty close to other general MMO sites. If this is the case than this myticil 1% becomes say 10% (assuming there are 9 other general MMO sites). That would be 10% of the MMO community with similar views.
Then you would have to figure out how many people each hype voter represents. No idea, but its greater than 1, I'm sure. Just as exit polls during an election are able to achieve accurate results with just 5 - 10% of the vote being tabulated, it becomes a pretty good predictor. Not saying this is the case, because I don't have enough information.
lol, kind of a long winded personal analysis. But I'm analyzing/rambling as I have excess time today. Like I said in my original post, I don't think its a matter of less hype for the game, but rather reflects new games which are coming online.
The MMO crowd has grown very fickle due to the number of disappointments.
The more people know about a game, the less interest they have in playing it.
To them, there will never be another great MMO. They will wait and wait for GW2 then be disappointed when it gets released.
That is true in some cases as hype can only go so far. WAR and AoC are examples of how hype leads to failure.
As more and more info is released on games, some becomes disenfranchised or see the game as another clone etc. while other games only strengthen their image and become less opt to crash and burn.
It is only my personal opinion but i think TOR is the the former and GW2 the latter in this case.
Originally posted by Puremallace Look one month and 6 months out for a better perspective. MMORPG games are still topping the list.
You seem to be a newcomer so you weren't here when MMORPG.com was heavily pushing Warhammer Online and had a lot of fawning interviews with Paul Barnett that were pretty laughable.
WAR was the son who could do no wrong on this site even though everyone else around the industry seemed to see through the smoke screens. Yet there were full page ads plastered daily. Warhammer won "awards" as well from other more questionable sites.
I like MMORPG because of the writers they get and people like Sanya Weathers who shoot pretty straight, I'm not here to read "hot lists" throught a messed up voting system.
But there are plenty of people still here that remember that.
Not saying they are crooked or anything, I'm just saying that the "hot list" here means nothing.
I don't see how trolling a game with total and complete made up information and trying to spread it isn't worth a warning/temp ban, but calling someone silly for doing it is <.<.
Also, this site proves that the best games/highest rated games are doing the best in the industry. Right?
We would be lucky if 10% of the mmo players in the world have visited this site once. Hype meter means nothing,
It doesn't mean anything within the larger population. However it does mean something within the sampling pool. Lets take your 10% number as an example. No, lets make it more strict, say 1% of the MMO community visits the site. Fine. That 1% is 100% on the site. So you can trend that 1% in the greater community and 100% within the sub community. Within this sub community we see clearly that SWTOR has dropped in hype. (Before everyone thinks I am negative towards SWTOR, I've already pre-ordered and looking forward to it).
The next question becomes how does this community reflect the larger community, That question is highly debatable for sure. I believe that its pretty close to other general MMO sites. If this is the case than this myticil 1% becomes say 10% (assuming there are 9 other general MMO sites). That would be 10% of the MMO community with similar views.
Then you would have to figure out how many people each hype voter represents. No idea, but its greater than 1, I'm sure. Just as exit polls during an election are able to achieve accurate results with just 5 - 10% of the vote being tabulated, it becomes a pretty good predictor. Not saying this is the case, because I don't have enough information.
lol, kind of a long winded personal analysis. But I'm analyzing/rambling as I have excess time today. Like I said in my original post, I don't think its a matter of less hype for the game, but rather reflects new games which are coming online.
Its merely watching the trending for fun for me.
So a site with MMO gamers that seem to want a sandbox themepark instead of a themepark means that those sites that don't favor a sandbox themepark would feel the same? Cool!
We would be lucky if 10% of the mmo players in the world have visited this site once. Hype meter means nothing,
It doesn't mean anything within the larger population. However it does mean something within the sampling pool. Lets take your 10% number as an example. No, lets make it more strict, say 1% of the MMO community visits the site. Fine. That 1% is 100% on the site. So you can trend that 1% in the greater community and 100% within the sub community. Within this sub community we see clearly that SWTOR has dropped in hype. (Before everyone thinks I am negative towards SWTOR, I've already pre-ordered and looking forward to it).
The next question becomes how does this community reflect the larger community, That question is highly debatable for sure. I believe that its pretty close to other general MMO sites. If this is the case than this myticil 1% becomes say 10% (assuming there are 9 other general MMO sites). That would be 10% of the MMO community with similar views.
Then you would have to figure out how many people each hype voter represents. No idea, but its greater than 1, I'm sure. Just as exit polls during an election are able to achieve accurate results with just 5 - 10% of the vote being tabulated, it becomes a pretty good predictor. Not saying this is the case, because I don't have enough information.
lol, kind of a long winded personal analysis. But I'm analyzing/rambling as I have excess time today. Like I said in my original post, I don't think its a matter of less hype for the game, but rather reflects new games which are coming online.
Its merely watching the trending for fun for me.
Actually this "Hype Rating" is basically meaningless since only the most rabid fans will vote or post. The more moderate players will read and move on. Basically, you would not visit a Concervative Convention and take a poll on Liberal views and expect any kind of accuracy for the population at large, so why would you do so here?
"If half of what you tell me is a lie, how can I believe any of it?"
Only critics and metacritic matters. Onces individual opinion has no bearing. If it's not doing good on lists and charts it means it's not a good game.
this is why it's important to only play and like what the masses like. This also proves that beyonce, and lady gaga are the best music artists of our time because they sell so many records. It's true, because more people cannot be wrong.
one should never lower themselfs to play a game that is deemed mediocre by the internet public. that would be silly. one should always only like what other people think is great. or more specifically - the people who are the most vocal and shout the most what is great and what is not, should be considered the last truth.
ROFL yes it is actually dropping on some list but that is only due to the fact the games above it are actually in beta now and are keeping a few of us mildly entertained after a long dry spell.
Mainly talking about bounty hounds, and dragon nest.
Bounty Hounds is ok but 30+ the game becomes a painful grind.
Dragonnest on the other hand is actually a pretty decent game for what it is and what it offers. The just added the pvp update, and the arena pvp is actually kinda fun but Im sure it will get old fast.
Personally, I am afraid that the game will lose interest after a short period and leave the game's survival to the fan database, I really hope that this is plenty for the game, but doubt it.
lol sounds like to me you want the game to die.......... i dont think its going any were because you say so. i know this the fans of the star wars game i know there alot will stay and keep the game runing. so you cant predict the game is going to die because you say so. I know every game has it fans and those are the people that will stay if gets old really fast then the game ant for you move on to the next one .
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Also look at what else is out to play. Many of the quote "hot" games are only hot because there is f-all else to play atm. Some of these games are true cookie cutter clones or just pure crap but are on the hype meter becuase everything else is stale/old.
You tend to forget why games die out. The core stuff looks to be there and the base audience is there. It is up to Bioware to make content fast enough. The biggest doubt with SWToR currently is can the game adjust fast enough to what the audience wants.
i care about the hot list
/sarcasm
Oh noes, I guess I better find a different game to play, TOR isn't the popularzzz.
To SB fans, please stop making our demographic look bad.Stop invading threads that have nothing to do with sandboxes.
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Do you live under a rock? TOR is more populat than you know. The only reason it's dropping in hype is because of the lack of info regarding release and a monthly pricing moduel.
Played - M59, EQOA, EQ, EQ2, PS, SWG[Favorite], DAoC, UO, RS, MXO, CoH/CoV, TR, FFXI, FoM, WoW, Eve, Rift, SWTOR, TSW.
Playing - PS2, AoW, GW2
They cut all laern from a game like: http://www.primeonline.com/
Dont release anything till there is anything to release. And build by a mmo player thinking, not by the money bank.
A game that are not for kindergarden, a game that are build by the players( Thats what a mmo are about right players / a player world ? )
Not that the graphic are the best out there, but first its the game then its the grahic, right ?
The only list I use right now is the hype meter. I've been watching it for sometime and find it an interesting indicator. Its obviously not perfect since different lists from different sites will vary differently. However, if you trend the games on this site alone, you can gauge this communities 'hype activity'. In this case, I do agree that SWTOR has been dropping. I do not believe its becoming less popular, but new games have come on the horizon and its natural for those games to get a bump.
I don't think that the hype meter is a perfect tool, but I enjoy seeing the trends from this one community.
I self identify as a monkey.
We would be lucky if 10% of the mmo players in the world have visited this site once. Hype meter means nothing,
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The MMO crowd has grown very fickle due to the number of disappointments.
The more people know about a game, the less interest they have in playing it.
To them, there will never be another great MMO. They will wait and wait for GW2 then be disappointed when it gets released.
This title is old 34 years?..imagine how big is fan base so your predictions falling in water.
Currently playing: Elder Scrolls Online
MMORPG experiences:EQ2, AoC(pre f2p), Lotro,GW1,DDO, Aion,WoW( stop with wotlk),Allods, GW2
Eu,War, Secret World
Waiting On: WoD Sometime Maybe: Elder Scrolls MMO, Might and Magic
It doesn't mean anything within the larger population. However it does mean something within the sampling pool. Lets take your 10% number as an example. No, lets make it more strict, say 1% of the MMO community visits the site. Fine. That 1% is 100% on the site. So you can trend that 1% in the greater community and 100% within the sub community. Within this sub community we see clearly that SWTOR has dropped in hype. (Before everyone thinks I am negative towards SWTOR, I've already pre-ordered and looking forward to it).
The next question becomes how does this community reflect the larger community, That question is highly debatable for sure. I believe that its pretty close to other general MMO sites. If this is the case than this myticil 1% becomes say 10% (assuming there are 9 other general MMO sites). That would be 10% of the MMO community with similar views.
Then you would have to figure out how many people each hype voter represents. No idea, but its greater than 1, I'm sure. Just as exit polls during an election are able to achieve accurate results with just 5 - 10% of the vote being tabulated, it becomes a pretty good predictor. Not saying this is the case, because I don't have enough information.
lol, kind of a long winded personal analysis. But I'm analyzing/rambling as I have excess time today. Like I said in my original post, I don't think its a matter of less hype for the game, but rather reflects new games which are coming online.
Its merely watching the trending for fun for me.
I self identify as a monkey.
That is true in some cases as hype can only go so far. WAR and AoC are examples of how hype leads to failure.
As more and more info is released on games, some becomes disenfranchised or see the game as another clone etc. while other games only strengthen their image and become less opt to crash and burn.
It is only my personal opinion but i think TOR is the the former and GW2 the latter in this case.
You seem to be a newcomer so you weren't here when MMORPG.com was heavily pushing Warhammer Online and had a lot of fawning interviews with Paul Barnett that were pretty laughable.
WAR was the son who could do no wrong on this site even though everyone else around the industry seemed to see through the smoke screens. Yet there were full page ads plastered daily. Warhammer won "awards" as well from other more questionable sites.
I like MMORPG because of the writers they get and people like Sanya Weathers who shoot pretty straight, I'm not here to read "hot lists" throught a messed up voting system.
But there are plenty of people still here that remember that.
Not saying they are crooked or anything, I'm just saying that the "hot list" here means nothing.
"TO MICHAEL!"
I don't see how trolling a game with total and complete made up information and trying to spread it isn't worth a warning/temp ban, but calling someone silly for doing it is <.<.
Also, this site proves that the best games/highest rated games are doing the best in the industry. Right?
So a site with MMO gamers that seem to want a sandbox themepark instead of a themepark means that those sites that don't favor a sandbox themepark would feel the same? Cool!
Too busy wachting diablo 3 developement . [mod edit: no trolling please]
Yet you found the time to post a pointless remark about a game you supposedly have no time for.
Actually this "Hype Rating" is basically meaningless since only the most rabid fans will vote or post. The more moderate players will read and move on. Basically, you would not visit a Concervative Convention and take a poll on Liberal views and expect any kind of accuracy for the population at large, so why would you do so here?
"If half of what you tell me is a lie, how can I believe any of it?"
I assure you...the hype machine for SWTOR is fully operational....
Only critics and metacritic matters. Onces individual opinion has no bearing. If it's not doing good on lists and charts it means it's not a good game.
this is why it's important to only play and like what the masses like. This also proves that beyonce, and lady gaga are the best music artists of our time because they sell so many records. It's true, because more people cannot be wrong.
one should never lower themselfs to play a game that is deemed mediocre by the internet public. that would be silly. one should always only like what other people think is great. or more specifically - the people who are the most vocal and shout the most what is great and what is not, should be considered the last truth.
ROFL yes it is actually dropping on some list but that is only due to the fact the games above it are actually in beta now and are keeping a few of us mildly entertained after a long dry spell.
Mainly talking about bounty hounds, and dragon nest.
Bounty Hounds is ok but 30+ the game becomes a painful grind.
Dragonnest on the other hand is actually a pretty decent game for what it is and what it offers. The just added the pvp update, and the arena pvp is actually kinda fun but Im sure it will get old fast.
lol sounds like to me you want the game to die.......... i dont think its going any were because you say so. i know this the fans of the star wars game i know there alot will stay and keep the game runing. so you cant predict the game is going to die because you say so. I know every game has it fans and those are the people that will stay if gets old really fast then the game ant for you move on to the next one
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What now?
Characters look like they are from a superhero comic book.... tights! Ew!
World look like WoW....
When you fight you don't see any blood, just silly light effects. Like the cute anime games...
It seem to be like a single player game that you must pay for every month online....
AI also seem boring and very stupid...
Ofc it will drop.
Hey don't forget Mortal Online and Xyson, yeah they were there too. Lol.