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Honest comments on GW2 from an SW:TOR fanbois
Agricola1
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I'm a rabid SW:TOR fanbois and I hated GW1, I won't be playing GW2 as I just don't like fantasy settings no matter how hard I try. I'd just like to say that I think GW2 looks like a massive improvement on the first and I'm quite envious of many of the new and innovative features especially having a dynamic world. If this game were in a sci fi setting I'd have probably pre ordered it alongside SW:TOR, I've posted this as I'm tired of the GW2 vs SW:TOR bashing wether percieved or real there do seem to be some ****wits from either side of the fence and I already made a total dick of myself in the AoC VS WAR fiasco more than three years ago.
So today I'm here to rectify that and gain back some good karma by giving my honest opinion of GW2 and saying good luck to all those who pre ordered and I hope you have fun,
Agricola
SW:TOR fanbois
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"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
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Thanks for your honesty. [mod edit] Let's not go baiting each other now [/mod edit]
No pre-orders yet for GW2, but let me throw that back at ya and wish you good luck if you pre-ordered ToR
They are such wildly different games I don't understand the wars between fanbois of either camp, I have my preferences and you have yours and good luck to any game that is getting ready to launch, I don't revel in failures.
I have no doubts that SW:ToR will be a great theme park, trinity, MMO with a superb storyline. The setting is great and I like the graphics, I think the aesthetic serves its purpose incredibly well. I'm looking forward to spending more time with it.
I'm more excited for GW2 and TSW but I appreciate what Bioware is doing, if you don't want what ToR has to offer why slag it off? Simply ignore it.
People care less about the two games than they care about the "us vs. them" tribe mentality. Like politics A vs. politics B, religion A vs. religion B, religion vs. non-religion, sports team A vs. sports team B...
It seems that humans are hardwired into making sides just for the sake of belonging into a group ("us") and having a common enemy ("them").
As this doesn't earn us nothing, maybe we should try to be above such primitive way of thinking.
As this doesn't earn us nothing, maybe we should try to be above such primitive way of thinking.People care less about the two games than they care about the "us vs. them" tribe mentality. Like politics A vs. politics B, religion A vs. religion B, religion vs. non-religion, sports team A vs. sports team B...
It seems that humans are hardwired into making sides just for the sake of belonging into a group ("us") and having a common enemy ("them").
As this doesn't earn us nothing, maybe we should try to be above such primitive way of thinking.
Good post.
For a laugh: Play an Asura (techno gnome) with a gun (or a turret or flamethrower) and wear goggles and walk around in a mech (golem) then jump out and shoot gay fantasy characters!
I would say it is both. Players get so emotionally invested in game that they forget that it is just a game. It becomes personal at that point. it is as if a video game is suddenly as important as your mother.
Amen! Both of these games look polished and are going for a completely different audience for the most part. If they both succeed it will be great for both studios and for the gaming fan base. People need to stop going into other forums for games just to cause drama!
Gamers have this odd (and unsupported) notion that quality games cannot coexist.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
Ahhh... Let's have a group hug now.
/spits
You people, make me sick. Get back to your trenches.
People are allways trying to proove themsleves right, in this case making the right choice for the (supposedly) best game... And then they try to proove themselves right by bashing other games..... People hate making wrong choices...
Well, in gaming there is nothing like a wrong choice.... if you can accept a game is it was meant to be, you guaranteed will have a lot of fun...
On top of that, i think for the first time it will be possible to play 2 MMO's at the same time, as GW2 will not have a monthly fee... And both games are so much different... Playign both games simmultanously, will make sure you will not as easilly finish new top level content... and keeping both games more attractive.
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
I find myself getting fired up over these games and later I just laugh because I realize how stupid it is. Then...I come back in and do it again later because some GW2 fanboi hijacks a ToR thread and posts "GW2 will so pwn SWTOR" comments. . I really do hope GW2 is successful. Any successful MMO is good for the industry.
But...this thread has inspired me to stop the hate posts toward GW2.
/tiphat
heh. It is far better to just say your reasons for not liking a game than to try and convince others to not like a game...Sometimes I think tthat people get that confused with trying to convince others to like their game.
nice thread.
I used to TL;DR, but then I took a bullet point to the footnote.
Yea man im kinda the same i cant wait for gw2 cozi love fantasy but for some reason i cant get into futeristic games but i stll hope swtor does good it looks enjoyable just not for me though
I just want GW2 to release so that I won't have the time to visit these flaming forums ever again. But alas... the wait. (¬_¬)
SWTOR has guns and magic. Yes the Force is magic. Especially the expanded universe Force that SWTOR uses.
GW2 has guns and magic.
Are you all that sure that the settings are really that different. The main difference is that GW2 is steampunk and SW, in general, is far-futuristic.
The sad thing is GW2 will do guns, turrets and siege turrets better. Yet it still gets labeled fantasy.
Was Arcanum fantasy? You could play a character that was all magic and was terrible at technology or you could go all out technology and be worthless at magic. Is that fantasy? If it is then so is Star Wars.
While I love Star Wars, and everything related, it is going to be GW2 for me.
The dynamic world is just too much of an improvement to not play. (Yes, I know that ToR and GW2 both have "flash point dungeons... both of which will be boring after you run it 10x
) Having stuff start attacking you when a quest giver says it will is just light years ahead of getting a text box, then having to go 50 meters away to kill 10 of X.
My real reason for not being as stoked on TOR is that I've played WOW for too long. Don't get me wrong, WOW is a good game and it held my interest for years... but I need something different now. For those of you that haven't spent as much time on it, I think that TOR will be phenomenol. Just like RIFT is phenomenol.
When I break it down, I really think that what game you enjoy really depends on your story, and where you have been. Are you burned out on something? You'll do better with something else that isn't like it. Are you craving a Sci-Fi fix? TOR is gonna knock it out of the ball park for you. Are you sick of questing being the same? GW2 is going to be fantastic.
Both games are going to be excellent, well-polished, and fun-to-play games, no doubt about it. Which you will enjoy more depends and what you think you need the most to keep gaming fun for you (and your friends).
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
lol yeah me too. Of course school starts for me on Monday so I'll be spending less time here anyway.
Do you want some cheese with that whine?
Personally I'm looking forward to both games. Oddly enough though I think I am actually the most interested in The Secret World, go figure.
I think my only real issue with GW2 is that it is yet another fantasy game. And though this is not A-nets fault, too many half assed fantasy MMOs have poisoned my enjoyment of that particular genre.
As to the fanboi vs fanboi d-baggery in the forums, its equally spread out between factions. Its just a facet of the arrogance of internet dickweeds who beleive "I disagree" means the same thing as "You're wrong."
I will say that SWTOR seems to be getting the sh*t end of the stick though because not only do the SWTOR forums get the infighting between the fanbois, but the added scab picking, never ending litany of bitching, from the disgruntled SWG vets, Star Wars purists, and disenfranchised sandbox gamers in general.
"Gypsies, tramps, and thieves, we were called by the Admin of the site . . . "
gw1 has absolutely nothing to do with gw2, except for the lore i guess. gw2 isnt an improvement of the first, it's a complete remake from scratch and it's different in every possible way. just thought id clarify that for u.,
technically it looks like GW2 is clockpunk not steampunk
What a jerk
Here's my two cents on which game is better:
The one that makes you the happiest.
People who just jump on these boards to hate and shit all over other folks's games are shallow, immature, impotent douches. I'm not claiming to be any more mature or better...just saying they is what they is.
After reading this I was surprised there were so many punks out there! I learnt something today. While clockpunk is sometimes considered a subgenre of steampunk. And since we haven't seen all the technology in the game it may be better to stick to steampunk. One machine not based on springs and gears and you're toast!
Though you might be right of course.
Waiting for Guild Wars 2, and maybe SWTOR until that time...
Except design philosophy. i.e. anti-grind, always play with your friends, PvP seperated from PvE, you're the hero, no griefing.
This is well said and pretty correct in my opinion.
Personally I think ALL arguments get started regarding what people LIKE. If one person doesnt like what another person does, get ready for an argument. If two people like the same thing, they can discuss it. People tend to defend what they like with almost a religious fervor.
Person A likes the PS3. Person B hates it and tells person A. Light the fires. Or one person likes a bill passed by congress (this is completely hypothetical hahaha) and another hates it. Here we go again. Wars, religion, politics, entertainment. Its all the same. We argue over what we like.
For some reason we also get offended if someone doesnt like what we do. Im a night owl, and have literally seemed to hurt peoples feelings when I say I dont really prefer the daytime much. " But I love the daytime! Whats wrong with some sunshine? " . Its as though Ive insulted their child or something.
Its just the way we are I guess.