No Line of sight checks??

Moreplex

This is the year 2011 right??  How does a game in this decade not have LOS checks?  And people say this game is fine?

princereaper Veteran Member     Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: england,london Infractions: 2/2 (2) Rep Power: 2

so explain please how fear members was able to kill me and other member in a locked storage house? from outside? with mindblast? thunderlash? and corrupt? __________________

Here is the response with a video link

The video is dark but you clearly see a person targeted and then the person is shooting spells through a wall to kill another.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHWTJ9O3smo

 

Gigamo Challenger     Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Belgium Rep Power: 3

Quote: Originally Posted by princereaper  really......that so sad. explain how they even target someone from outside a storage with no windows. Here's how. This game does not have any LoS checks on magic, so as long as your target is under your crosshair the spell will hit. Hope this helps! __________________

 

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Gigamo Challenger     Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Belgium Rep Power: 3	Quote: Originally Posted by Tenchuu  That, but it's a bug, thus if people are using it, it's exploiting. Not going to discuss the "legality" of it, but it seems like simple game mechanics to me. The fact that there are no LoS checks can't be a bug if there were never any checks to begin with. __________________

And I guess this is how they are seeing who is inside the house.  You can do a special sword move when you are next to a house and it carries your face through the wall to see inside.

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psychobilly Member     Join Date: Nov 2009 Rep Power: 2

Quote: Originally Posted by Xyxyxy  Also Gigamo's video is pretty explicit for me. You can't hit someone through walls unlesss you know his EXACT position. Care to explain guys how you knew their exact postition within the house? I doubt you guys 'accidentaly' decided to cast a spell into the walls of the house and 'accidentaly' hit someone. And this happened with three different players. When you do an overhead strike, the animation carries you through and inside whatever structure you are facing. It is trivial to find the exact position of someone in a house (on the 1st floor). _________________

Slapshot1188

How can a game that claims to have "skill based" combat not have LoS checks?  That seems bizarre...  Can any of the CURRENT players who frequent this forum verify this?

deathshroud

basically with magery if your cursor is over the target then it will hit when cast, if you do not have your cursor over the target when you hit cast you will fissle and have to recharge the spell.

Spells can be cast on people through a wall if you have your cursor over them regardless of any obsticales in the way, very difficult to do in combat but easy to do on someone afk in a house for example

spells will not go through bushes, you cannot target them in a bush because bushes seem to block los. You must go into the bush and stand next to them.

 magery esentially works like a sniper rifle in the majority of fps games, if your cursor is over them when you pull the trigger you will hit, the only issue here is the magery sniper rifle shoots through walls

as gigamo kindly demonstrates

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHWTJ9O3smo

 

melee can hit people through thin walls, however only with overhead strike in most cases, its also extrmely difficult to land on a moving target. When doing overhead strike you can see through a palyer door when stood next to it however it isnt much help considering mages dont have overhead strike. They esentially line up their short by jumping at windows to se inside.

nortoni

Originally posted by Slapshot1188

How can a game that claims to have "skill based" combat not have LoS checks?  That seems bizarre...  Can any of the CURRENT players who frequent this forum verify this?

The power of advertising of course.  Alas, short term 'win' for lies is usually long term 'lose' of a disasterous nature. 

Perhaps SV thinks they have found a buyer if they can hold out long enough.

Hopefully a former Eastern Bloc Mafie or Chinese buyer.  Well, be careful either way; those guys might PK all of Sweden in retaliation.