The poin here its not the fact about the change of D3 from offline/online to only online content the problem here is the tone of this incompetent person: “Erm… upgrade the wiring in his house?” suggests Wilson. “I mean, in this day and age the notion that there’s this a whole vast majority of players out there that don’t have online connectivity – this doesn’t really fly any more.”
lol and here i ask this Wilson who the *** are you to speak to a custumer like this; now im not one who has a bad connection at home so im not angry at him for the change in the game but you are nowhere important enough to tell people what they should or not should do. Even an idiod could have realized that what shoud be done was an upgrading of theyr line, maybe if they complained about it was because this could cause issues for them?! Not every one in the world has money to spare for games or internet so if a casual player wants to enjoy a game without using too much money you can't absolutely speak to them like this!
Thats like saying they should release it on CD just in case someone doesnt have a DVD drive yet. Its the same argument "But I cant afford a dvd drive!" then download the game "but my internet connection isnt stable enough" get a better internet connection "How dare you!!!"
I really don't get what some people expect from blizzard, should they come and check everyones computer and make sure it will work ok?
Oh boy as if it hasn't been controversial enough about the online only arguement, Jay Wilson has added more fuel to the fire. Jay Wilson of Blizzard Entertainment has suggested that people who have mediocre connections to their houses should "upgrade the wiring in your house" uhh what ? I'm sorry Jay but are you going to pay everyone who doesn't have a good connection ? Ofcourse not but what nerve they have telling people what they should and shouldn't do. Since when does Blizzard employees play God or atleast think they make the laws ?
funny stuff, but on the same page of this thinking.. who are you,I,they to say to blizzard that they should chance thier games becourse you,I,they have crappy connections.
If you dont have the hardware to play a game you dont say to the developer hey use less gfx else my game cant run it. if you dont have the money you dont say to a mmo developer that they should not ask for money coz your poor.
if you dont like it..dont buy it , done, end of discussion.
those unlucky folks who live in backwater area's whit crappy connections and wires will have to upgrade thier houses at some point else they will never be able to get a good connection. specialy in the united states of america its crap..houses made out of wood whit the cheapest possible materials and they look amazed if a storm in the middle of tornado land blows away their houses :P. up side, amazing wonderfull big houses every europian is jealos off, down side crappy power lines and internet and every now and then you risk to lose everyting you own.
thats the good thing about europe, its infratructure is simply better but the down side is that we all live in either old leaky brick houses or new leaky brick houses half the size of the american counterpart and triple the building cost.
Your connection sucks is not their problem and quite frankly they do not care. If you cannot be online or your connection awful,then do not buy the game is their message. They do not want to cater to people like that and they will bring in enough money to roll in without that section of the playerbase that will not buy it because of this. That is at the end of the day the real problem isn't it , that they can do without those people and do so just fine. That must bite isn't it that they can be so successful that they can tell to you suck it up and deal. Your threat not to buy the game will not impact them in any substantial way.
The only real problem with the statement is that it is stupid. Most connection issues people encounter are not from the wiring in their home, but rather with the signal quality they are getting from their internet provider. Not much anyone can do to change that if there are few options where they live.
Case in point, I have wonderful high speed internet at my house, my mother literally lives around the corner from me and my provider cannot get a signal too her because they don't want to spend the money to put in a new booster to boost the signal another 200 feet.
You know, far be it from me to be a Blizzard apologist, but I don't get the rage about D3 requiring internet.
1) The biggest issue with the Diablo games in the past was bots and hacks. This eliminates a lot of them.
2) As much as I hate to admit it, it's a good form of DRM.
3) The achievement system will be tied into Battle.net and require a connection. Much like a lot of current Steam products that require you to be logged into Steam.
4) Starcraft II required internet too, and no one freaked.
More on topic about internet...that was a stupid comment, since a LOT of houses are primarily wireless nowadays.
1. I can guarantee you that within a week or less of D3's release, hackers will find a way around it.
2. No, it isn't. It's intrusive and requires people to rely upon something that isn't entirely under their control. Also, see above.
3. STEAM has an offline mode, in case you didn't know. Also, there's plenty of ways to tie achievements into Battle.net without requiring online-only play.
4. Actually it doesn't. You can play it offline just fine.
That being said, I think his incredibly weak comment about 'unintentionally opting out' is far more offensive than his comment about wiring, and shows just how little ActiBlizz really thinks of the intelligence of their playerbase. Honestly, that sounds like something Kotick would say.
Which is yet another reason why I'll be sticking with Torchlight 2 and Runic Games, and telling Blizzard to go f**k themselves.
Why would faulty wiring in your house be Blizzard's problem? Why wouldn't you want to fix it? If you don't have the money, too bad... if things like online games are important to you, prioritize repairs and don't whine about a gaming company moving forward without you. It's like demanding devs make crappier games so you can play them on you PIII Laptop. At some point you have to get with the times.
If you say they will get hacked is the excuse then even Torchlight will get hacked too and people will play that too without even buying the game. I played Starcraft II and had to be conencted all the time I was not aware you could play it offline. Unless of course you are talking about the hacked version.
The only real problem with the statement is that it is stupid. Most connection issues people encounter are not from the wiring in their home, but rather with the signal quality they are getting from their internet provider. Not much anyone can do to change that if there are few options where they live.
Case in point, I have wonderful high speed internet at my house, my mother literally lives around the corner from me and my provider cannot get a signal too her because they don't want to spend the money to put in a new booster to boost the signal another 200 feet.
Agreed. An idiot ISP company actually made a lady I know rewire her house. Didn't help of course, took 2 months to get the net work as it should and only because another buddy who work at another ISP (that sadly didn't have anything in this town) called them and told them exactly what to do to get it working as it should.
Of course there are some houses with wires pre WW2 that needs updating, I know someone that actually had wires from WW1 which they changed a few years back but in most cases is this just BS.
In a city like Rome it is mostly wiring and yes it is old and it does affect the connection. Sadly many times you rent a place in Europe and you cannot do anything. Just have to deal I guess what to do that is life.
No worries, I'll be buying Torchlight 2, despite having a very good connection, and Portugal having some of the best ISP services in Europe, no problems with internet whatsoever in the last 3 years I've been with this ISP.
Alas, ill get a cracked version of D3, just so I can feel like I am raining down yellow water into Kotick mouth
That's a bit rediculous tbh.. why is it only this game where internet speed plays a major role?
Some people don't have high-speed simply because it still isn't available in their area and likely never will be at this rate. Hell, if I lived about 30min down the road, all I would have available is dial-up still. So to propose such a thing is beyond silly to me, unless Blizz wants to pressure these lazy ISP's to finally upgrade and add more lines (which was supposed to be standard by 2010 here) than they need to do something on their own end to ensure lower speeds can play.
And besides, as long as a connection is stable it doesn't need to be top of the line fast to propperly play online games. So what makes D3 so different? This makes me wonder if they plan on using something like PandoMedia in their product to reduce their own bandwidth costs.
My beef is with companies who dictate that I "Have" to be online to play the single player portion of a game. THEY do not get my money and I find it rather insulting that they even demand we be online all the time. I don't care if I'm in the minority, my wallet is speaking my mind if they don't listen, then that's one less customer for them for life.
Oh boy as if it hasn't been controversial enough about the online only arguement, Jay Wilson has added more fuel to the fire. Jay Wilson of Blizzard Entertainment has suggested that people who have mediocre connections to their houses should "upgrade the wiring in your house" uhh what ? I'm sorry Jay but are you going to pay everyone who doesn't have a good connection ? Ofcourse not but what nerve they have telling people what they should and shouldn't do. Since when does Blizzard employees play God or atleast think they make the laws ?
His advice is valid. I used to have connection drops every 5 - 7 hours. One day I ran a direct line from the router to the phone box and I haven't had a single dropped connection since.
"I used to think the worst thing in life was to be all alone. It's not. The worst thing in life is to end up with people who make you feel all alone." Robin Williams
Forget it all and just say, "F**k you" to Blizzard. End of problem.
"I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)
well there is an alternative. you can just keep playing C64 games for the rest of your life.
LFD tools are great for cramming people into content, but quality > quantity. I am, usually on the sandbox .. more "hardcore" side of things, but I also do just want to have fun. So lighten up already
The poin here its not the fact about the change of D3 from offline/online to only online content the problem here is the tone of this incompetent person: “Erm… upgrade the wiring in his house?” suggests Wilson. “I mean, in this day and age the notion that there’s this a whole vast majority of players out there that don’t have online connectivity – this doesn’t really fly any more.”
lol and here i ask this Wilson who the *** are you to speak to a custumer like this; now im not one who has a bad connection at home so im not angry at him for the change in the game but you are nowhere important enough to tell people what they should or not should do. Even an idiod could have realized that what shoud be done was an upgrading of theyr line, maybe if they complained about it was because this could cause issues for them?! Not every one in the world has money to spare for games or internet so if a casual player wants to enjoy a game without using too much money you can't absolutely speak to them like this!
If they can't afford too much money on games or internet, why would they be paying $60 for a game that requires high speed internet?
If someone didn't have the required CPU/GPU power, they wouldn't demand the specs be lowered. Why is a required connection speed any different? They're both hardware issues.
If I was paying for a certain connection and only getting a fraction of it or it being very unstable due to faulty/old wiring, I'd want it changed. I had my wiring changed a few months back for this exact reason. You shouldn't be raging at Blizzard for suggesting you fix the wires, but your ISP for providing a poor service.
Online or offline, doesn't matter anyway as I won't be buying D3. Not until Actiblizzion sorts their shit out.
So the Bliz guy says Diablo 3 is a circle-jerk? I can believe that.
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Thats like saying they should release it on CD just in case someone doesnt have a DVD drive yet. Its the same argument "But I cant afford a dvd drive!" then download the game "but my internet connection isnt stable enough" get a better internet connection "How dare you!!!"
I really don't get what some people expect from blizzard, should they come and check everyones computer and make sure it will work ok?
"But.... you're holding it the wrong way!!!!!!!!!!!!"
funny stuff, but on the same page of this thinking.. who are you,I,they to say to blizzard that they should chance thier games becourse you,I,they have crappy connections.
If you dont have the hardware to play a game you dont say to the developer hey use less gfx else my game cant run it. if you dont have the money you dont say to a mmo developer that they should not ask for money coz your poor.
if you dont like it..dont buy it , done, end of discussion.
those unlucky folks who live in backwater area's whit crappy connections and wires will have to upgrade thier houses at some point else they will never be able to get a good connection. specialy in the united states of america its crap..houses made out of wood whit the cheapest possible materials and they look amazed if a storm in the middle of tornado land blows away their houses :P. up side, amazing wonderfull big houses every europian is jealos off, down side crappy power lines and internet and every now and then you risk to lose everyting you own.
thats the good thing about europe, its infratructure is simply better but the down side is that we all live in either old leaky brick houses or new leaky brick houses half the size of the american counterpart and triple the building cost.
Your connection sucks is not their problem and quite frankly they do not care. If you cannot be online or your connection awful,then do not buy the game is their message. They do not want to cater to people like that and they will bring in enough money to roll in without that section of the playerbase that will not buy it because of this. That is at the end of the day the real problem isn't it , that they can do without those people and do so just fine. That must bite isn't it that they can be so successful that they can tell to you suck it up and deal. Your threat not to buy the game will not impact them in any substantial way.
The only real problem with the statement is that it is stupid. Most connection issues people encounter are not from the wiring in their home, but rather with the signal quality they are getting from their internet provider. Not much anyone can do to change that if there are few options where they live.
Case in point, I have wonderful high speed internet at my house, my mother literally lives around the corner from me and my provider cannot get a signal too her because they don't want to spend the money to put in a new booster to boost the signal another 200 feet.
1. I can guarantee you that within a week or less of D3's release, hackers will find a way around it.
2. No, it isn't. It's intrusive and requires people to rely upon something that isn't entirely under their control. Also, see above.
3. STEAM has an offline mode, in case you didn't know. Also, there's plenty of ways to tie achievements into Battle.net without requiring online-only play.
4. Actually it doesn't. You can play it offline just fine.
That being said, I think his incredibly weak comment about 'unintentionally opting out' is far more offensive than his comment about wiring, and shows just how little ActiBlizz really thinks of the intelligence of their playerbase. Honestly, that sounds like something Kotick would say.
Which is yet another reason why I'll be sticking with Torchlight 2 and Runic Games, and telling Blizzard to go f**k themselves.
Why would faulty wiring in your house be Blizzard's problem? Why wouldn't you want to fix it? If you don't have the money, too bad... if things like online games are important to you, prioritize repairs and don't whine about a gaming company moving forward without you. It's like demanding devs make crappier games so you can play them on you PIII Laptop. At some point you have to get with the times.
If you say they will get hacked is the excuse then even Torchlight will get hacked too and people will play that too without even buying the game. I played Starcraft II and had to be conencted all the time I was not aware you could play it offline. Unless of course you are talking about the hacked version.
Agreed. An idiot ISP company actually made a lady I know rewire her house. Didn't help of course, took 2 months to get the net work as it should and only because another buddy who work at another ISP (that sadly didn't have anything in this town) called them and told them exactly what to do to get it working as it should.
Of course there are some houses with wires pre WW2 that needs updating, I know someone that actually had wires from WW1 which they changed a few years back but in most cases is this just BS.
In a city like Rome it is mostly wiring and yes it is old and it does affect the connection. Sadly many times you rent a place in Europe and you cannot do anything. Just have to deal I guess what to do that is life.
No worries, I'll be buying Torchlight 2, despite having a very good connection, and Portugal having some of the best ISP services in Europe, no problems with internet whatsoever in the last 3 years I've been with this ISP.
Alas, ill get a cracked version of D3, just so I can feel like I am raining down yellow water into Kotick mouth
"I am not a robot. I am a unicorn."
That's a bit rediculous tbh.. why is it only this game where internet speed plays a major role?
Some people don't have high-speed simply because it still isn't available in their area and likely never will be at this rate. Hell, if I lived about 30min down the road, all I would have available is dial-up still. So to propose such a thing is beyond silly to me, unless Blizz wants to pressure these lazy ISP's to finally upgrade and add more lines (which was supposed to be standard by 2010 here) than they need to do something on their own end to ensure lower speeds can play.
And besides, as long as a connection is stable it doesn't need to be top of the line fast to propperly play online games. So what makes D3 so different? This makes me wonder if they plan on using something like PandoMedia in their product to reduce their own bandwidth costs.
My beef is with companies who dictate that I "Have" to be online to play the single player portion of a game. THEY do not get my money and I find it rather insulting that they even demand we be online all the time. I don't care if I'm in the minority, my wallet is speaking my mind if they don't listen, then that's one less customer for them for life.
They might aswell just say "We want only city folks to play our games, that's all" ...
His advice is valid. I used to have connection drops every 5 - 7 hours. One day I ran a direct line from the router to the phone box and I haven't had a single dropped connection since.
Forget it all and just say, "F**k you" to Blizzard. End of problem.
"I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)
well there is an alternative. you can just keep playing C64 games for the rest of your life.
LFD tools are great for cramming people into content, but quality > quantity.
I am, usually on the sandbox .. more "hardcore" side of things, but I also do just want to have fun. So lighten up already
If they can't afford too much money on games or internet, why would they be paying $60 for a game that requires high speed internet?
If someone didn't have the required CPU/GPU power, they wouldn't demand the specs be lowered. Why is a required connection speed any different? They're both hardware issues.
If I was paying for a certain connection and only getting a fraction of it or it being very unstable due to faulty/old wiring, I'd want it changed. I had my wiring changed a few months back for this exact reason. You shouldn't be raging at Blizzard for suggesting you fix the wires, but your ISP for providing a poor service.
Online or offline, doesn't matter anyway as I won't be buying D3. Not until Actiblizzion sorts their shit out.
So the Bliz guy says Diablo 3 is a circle-jerk? I can believe that.
-Letting Derek Smart work on your game is like letting Osama bin Laden work in the White House. Something will burn.-
-And on the 8th day, man created God.-
What I find funny are MMO gamers complaining they need to be online to play a game.
It's just an excuse to whale on Blizzard nothing more. I don't know why blizzards success pains them so much?