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Norn Transformation

Grigor_BronGrigor_Bron Member Posts: 129

ArenaNet recently posted a trailer that was put on display at Gamescom. It can be viewed on the front page of the Guild Wars 2 website or alternatively here on their "Videos" page. There were a lot of interesting things in that video, but what really caught my attention was the rather brief reveal of all of the norn animal forms. ArenaNet somewhat copped out on the transformation (panning away rather than letting us see it actually happen - presumably because the effect isn't finished), but we nevertheless get to see the previously unrevealed Raven, Leopard, and Wolf forms.

Norn Animal Forms

So, what do you guys think? Are you satisfied with their appearance? Which, if any, do you like best?

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  • AzureProwerAzurePrower Member UncommonPosts: 1,550

    Yay for furries.

  • FadedbombFadedbomb Member Posts: 2,081

    Originally posted by Grigor_Bron

    ArenaNet recently posted a trailer that was put on display at Gamescom. It can be viewed on the front page of the Guild Wars 2 website or alternatively here on their "Videos" page. There were a lot of interesting things in that video, but what really caught my attention was the rather brief reveal of all of the norn animal forms. ArenaNet somewhat copped out on the transformation (panning away rather than letting us see it actually happen - presumably because the effect isn't finished), but we nevertheless get to see the previously unrevealed Raven, Leopard, and Wolf forms.

     

    So, what do you guys think? Are you satisfied with their appearance? Which, if any, do you like best?

     

    They've gone too far imo. Transformations should have been relegated to a seperate class (BeastMaster, Shapeshifter, PieMaster?). This just seems too rediculous now, and I'll probably pass on GW2 now :(.

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  • TGSOLTGSOL Member Posts: 274

    The bear is incredible. The raven is a little wonky.

     

    All in all, good stuff.

  • RanyrRanyr Member UncommonPosts: 212

    Originally posted by Fadedbomb

    They've gone too far imo. Transformations should have been relegated to a seperate class (BeastMaster, Shapeshifter, PieMaster?). This just seems too rediculous now, and I'll probably pass on GW2 now :(.

    So because one race in the game shapeshifts you won't play it at all? Amazing.

  • FadedbombFadedbomb Member Posts: 2,081

    Originally posted by Ranyr

    Originally posted by Fadedbomb



    They've gone too far imo. Transformations should have been relegated to a seperate class (BeastMaster, Shapeshifter, PieMaster?). This just seems too rediculous now, and I'll probably pass on GW2 now :(.

    So because one race in the game shapeshifts you won't play it at all? Amazing.

    I like how you missed the point entirely. If ONE race in specific, can "shapeshift" into some crazy animal form it's simply too far into the realm of random, over the top, sillyness.

     

    They SHOULD have made shapeshifting a class, so that not one race is more "amazing" than the other. You obviously don't understand, so trying to explain it to you obviously wouldn't make sense.

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  • TalthanysTalthanys Member Posts: 458

    So these are like...were-creatures? I probably missed the memo, but I had the preconception they were strict animal transformations. I'm fine with either way, I suppose, just startled.

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  • DJJazzyDJJazzy Member UncommonPosts: 2,053

    Perhaps read up on the lore of the Norn race, Faded bomb.

    Otherwise, sorry that GW2 won't have the druid class that you want.

  • LatellaLatella Member Posts: 189

    Originally posted by Fadedbomb

    Originally posted by Ranyr


    Originally posted by Fadedbomb



    They've gone too far imo. Transformations should have been relegated to a seperate class (BeastMaster, Shapeshifter, PieMaster?). This just seems too rediculous now, and I'll probably pass on GW2 now :(.

    So because one race in the game shapeshifts you won't play it at all? Amazing.

    I like how you missed the point entirely. If ONE race in specific, can "shapeshift" into some crazy animal form it's simply too far into the realm of random, over the top, sillyness.

     

    They SHOULD have made shapeshifting a class, so that not one race is more "amazing" than the other. You obviously don't understand, so trying to explain it to you obviously wouldn't make sense.

    Or perhaps you are just overreacting over a small ¿issue? I don´t consider the norns somehow superior because they can become furries on steroids. It´s just part of their character and deciding not to play the game for such thing is...well... to each their own i guess.

    Rawr.

  • PigozzPigozz Member UncommonPosts: 886

    Okey after seeing raven form I am totally playing Norn called Jericho Swain :))

    I think I actually spent way more time reading and theorycrafting about MMOs than playing them

  • ZyllosZyllos Member UncommonPosts: 537

    Ya, the Norn are tuned to their animal spirits and can manifest themselves as their respective spirits. It's just part of the GW universe and lore.

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  • FadedbombFadedbomb Member Posts: 2,081

    Originally posted by DJJazzy

    Perhaps read up on the lore of the Norn race, Faded bomb.

    Otherwise, sorry that GW2 won't have the druid class that you want.

    Druids don't shapeshift, what are you talking about =.=?

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  • XexvXexv Member Posts: 308

    Looks good give the bear two axes and a few other mids following behind and we'll be right at home heh ;)

  • aionixaionix Member UncommonPosts: 288

    Originally posted by Fadedbomb

    Originally posted by DJJazzy

    Perhaps read up on the lore of the Norn race, Faded bomb.

    Otherwise, sorry that GW2 won't have the druid class that you want.

    Druids don't shapeshift, what are you talking about =.=?

    In WoW's lore they do....but this isn't Warcraft.  This is Guild War's lore....this is how they created this group of people, as shapeshifters.  If that bothers you that much....well I don't know.

     

    Anyways, thanks OP!  Sweet pictures!  Defientaly going to roll a Norn as my first character now :)

  • FadedbombFadedbomb Member Posts: 2,081

    Originally posted by Latella

    Originally posted by Fadedbomb


    Originally posted by Ranyr


    Originally posted by Fadedbomb



    They've gone too far imo. Transformations should have been relegated to a seperate class (BeastMaster, Shapeshifter, PieMaster?). This just seems too rediculous now, and I'll probably pass on GW2 now :(.

    So because one race in the game shapeshifts you won't play it at all? Amazing.

    I like how you missed the point entirely. If ONE race in specific, can "shapeshift" into some crazy animal form it's simply too far into the realm of random, over the top, sillyness.

     

    They SHOULD have made shapeshifting a class, so that not one race is more "amazing" than the other. You obviously don't understand, so trying to explain it to you obviously wouldn't make sense.

    Or perhaps you are just overreacting over a small ¿issue? I don´t consider the norns somehow superior because they can become furries on steroids. It´s just part of their character and deciding not to play the game for such thing is...well... to each their own i guess.

    It's called "foresight". If you go into a diner and you see dead roaches everywhere you have the FORESIGHT that perhaps they've been in the food prepared at that diner. Therefore, you know you've got a HIGH chance of seeing more roaches, and they'll probably be in your food.

     

    Same thing here, I see the sillyness that is being involved within GW2. It's not even acceptable for an RPG to give the "Norn" an amazing, over the top, were-form when the other races don't have anything near as "out there".

     

    Now, if that shorty race could "summon" a steam-robotic suit as an exo-skeleton then perhaps the "sillyness" would be evened out. However, I've not seen anything that equates to it.

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  • romanator0romanator0 Member Posts: 2,382

    Originally posted by Fadedbomb

    It's called "foresight". If you go into a diner and you see dead roaches everywhere you have the FORESIGHT that perhaps they've been in the food prepared at that diner. Therefore, you know you've got a HIGH chance of seeing more roaches, and they'll probably be in your food.

     

    Same thing here, I see the sillyness that is being involved within GW2. It's not even acceptable for an RPG to give the "Norn" an amazing, over the top, were-form when the other races don't have anything near as "out there".

     

    Now, if that shorty race could "summon" a steam-robotic suit as an exo-skeleton then perhaps the "sillyness" would be evened out. However, I've not seen anything that equates to it.

    It's funny because that "shorty race" actually can summon a robotic suit as an exo-skeleton.

    And saying that it's unacceptable for an RPG to give the Norn the ability to shapeshift is just plain stupid.

    If you don't like the lore of the Guild Wars universe then that's your decision, but you have no right going around calling it unacceptable because it doesn't fit your definition of an RPG.

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  • bookworm438bookworm438 Member Posts: 647

    Originally posted by Fadedbomb

    Originally posted by Ranyr


    Originally posted by Fadedbomb



    They've gone too far imo. Transformations should have been relegated to a seperate class (BeastMaster, Shapeshifter, PieMaster?). This just seems too rediculous now, and I'll probably pass on GW2 now :(.

    So because one race in the game shapeshifts you won't play it at all? Amazing.

    I like how you missed the point entirely. If ONE race in specific, can "shapeshift" into some crazy animal form it's simply too far into the realm of random, over the top, sillyness.

     

    They SHOULD have made shapeshifting a class, so that not one race is more "amazing" than the other. You obviously don't understand, so trying to explain it to you obviously wouldn't make sense.

    Um...well...

    1) We have known since GW1 that the norn could shape shift. Even when brawling against norn you see them shapeshift. If you did not realize this was a trait of norn, then I don't know what to tell you...

    2) Read through the lore. It's the norn's racial ability. They worship animal spirits, namely raven, snow leapard, the bear, and wolf(?), along with other animals that aren't quite as prominent. They gain the ability to shapeshift through these spirits and completing a task or tasks for these spirits, each relating to what the spirit stands for. (Such as solving a riddle for the raven). Other races do not worship these spirits.

    3) Each races has their own class specific abilities. For example, humans have prayers to each of their gods. One such prayer can conjure hounds of balthazar (one of the 6 gods humans worship: Balthazar, Melandru(sp), Lyssa, Grenth, Dwayna, and Kormir--as of Nightfall). Asura have their golems, and I don't know what else. The other races we still don't really know.

    4) I recommend reading through the races section on www.guildwars2.com. As well as learning some of the lore behind these things.

    5) You obviously don't understand, so these points I just listed to you obviously won't make sense.

    6) Do you think any of us care if you aren't going to play GW2? In fact, some of us will probably be happier if you don't. Your opinion != fact. This is the lore of the Guild Wars universe. If you don't like it, then ignore it and play something else.

    7)  I'm betting the charr is going to be much more popular than the norn. Hmmm....playing as a gigantic ferocious 4 eared cat, or play as some oversized human that just happens to be able to shapeshift into animals (and we don't have all the facts on the ability, such as cooldown. Is it permanent. What advantages does each form provide, etc.)

    8) Some classes do have the ability to shapeshift into some things. Necro can shapeshift into some grenth creature thing. Ele can turn into a tornado.

  • FadedbombFadedbomb Member Posts: 2,081

    Originally posted by romanator0

    Originally posted by Fadedbomb

    It's called "foresight". If you go into a diner and you see dead roaches everywhere you have the FORESIGHT that perhaps they've been in the food prepared at that diner. Therefore, you know you've got a HIGH chance of seeing more roaches, and they'll probably be in your food.

     

    Same thing here, I see the sillyness that is being involved within GW2. It's not even acceptable for an RPG to give the "Norn" an amazing, over the top, were-form when the other races don't have anything near as "out there".

     

    Now, if that shorty race could "summon" a steam-robotic suit as an exo-skeleton then perhaps the "sillyness" would be evened out. However, I've not seen anything that equates to it.

    It's funny because that "shorty race" actually can summon a robotic suit as an exo-skeleton.

    And saying that it's unacceptable for an RPG to give the Norn the ability to shapeshift is just plain stupid.

    If you don't like the lore of the Guild Wars universe then that's your decision, but you have no right going around calling it unacceptable because it doesn't fit your definition of an RPG.

    Are you trolling me sir >,,>?

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  • romanator0romanator0 Member Posts: 2,382

    Originally posted by Fadedbomb

    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Fadedbomb

    It's called "foresight". If you go into a diner and you see dead roaches everywhere you have the FORESIGHT that perhaps they've been in the food prepared at that diner. Therefore, you know you've got a HIGH chance of seeing more roaches, and they'll probably be in your food.

     

    Same thing here, I see the sillyness that is being involved within GW2. It's not even acceptable for an RPG to give the "Norn" an amazing, over the top, were-form when the other races don't have anything near as "out there".

     

    Now, if that shorty race could "summon" a steam-robotic suit as an exo-skeleton then perhaps the "sillyness" would be evened out. However, I've not seen anything that equates to it.

    It's funny because that "shorty race" actually can summon a robotic suit as an exo-skeleton.

    And saying that it's unacceptable for an RPG to give the Norn the ability to shapeshift is just plain stupid.

    If you don't like the lore of the Guild Wars universe then that's your decision, but you have no right going around calling it unacceptable because it doesn't fit your definition of an RPG.

    Are you trolling me sir >,,>?

    No.

    The Hazmat Suit is an Asura (the "shorty race") creation that can be entered and then used by players. All races can use them but they are Asura creations.

    The Asura also have an elite skill where they can summon a golem.

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  • someforumguysomeforumguy Member RarePosts: 4,088

    Bears are smelly, Ill roll a steamrolling hammerwielding Asura. Cant wait to see him spinning out of balance and fall flat on his face because he missed while trying to hit a mob's kneecaps with that way too heavy hammer. Not that it will stop him from trying again, HA!

    Norn schnorn, pfff.

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,979

    Originally posted by Fadedbomb

    Originally posted by Ranyr


    Originally posted by Fadedbomb



    They've gone too far imo. Transformations should have been relegated to a seperate class (BeastMaster, Shapeshifter, PieMaster?). This just seems too rediculous now, and I'll probably pass on GW2 now :(.

    So because one race in the game shapeshifts you won't play it at all? Amazing.

    I like how you missed the point entirely. If ONE race in specific, can "shapeshift" into some crazy animal form it's simply too far into the realm of random, over the top, sillyness.

     

    They SHOULD have made shapeshifting a class, so that not one race is more "amazing" than the other. You obviously don't understand, so trying to explain it to you obviously wouldn't make sense.

    Sorry I don't agree.

    I don't see any reason why there shouldn't be special race abilities. Since none of this is real the designers can (and in my opinion "should" ) take every opportunity to explore new options, differences, characteristics.

    There is nothign "random" about it.

    Otherwise why have separate races? Just cosmetic? This adds meaning to playing a different race.

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  • VaultFairyVaultFairy Member UncommonPosts: 566

    I want to shapeshift into a bear.

  • SereliskSerelisk Member Posts: 836

    Originally posted by Fadedbomb

    Originally posted by Latella


    Originally posted by Fadedbomb


    Originally posted by Ranyr


    Originally posted by Fadedbomb



    They've gone too far imo. Transformations should have been relegated to a seperate class (BeastMaster, Shapeshifter, PieMaster?). This just seems too rediculous now, and I'll probably pass on GW2 now :(.

    So because one race in the game shapeshifts you won't play it at all? Amazing.

    I like how you missed the point entirely. If ONE race in specific, can "shapeshift" into some crazy animal form it's simply too far into the realm of random, over the top, sillyness.

     

    They SHOULD have made shapeshifting a class, so that not one race is more "amazing" than the other. You obviously don't understand, so trying to explain it to you obviously wouldn't make sense.

    Or perhaps you are just overreacting over a small ¿issue? I don´t consider the norns somehow superior because they can become furries on steroids. It´s just part of their character and deciding not to play the game for such thing is...well... to each their own i guess.

    It's called "foresight". If you go into a diner and you see dead roaches everywhere you have the FORESIGHT that perhaps they've been in the food prepared at that diner. Therefore, you know you've got a HIGH chance of seeing more roaches, and they'll probably be in your food.

     

    Same thing here, I see the sillyness that is being involved within GW2. It's not even acceptable for an RPG to give the "Norn" an amazing, over the top, were-form when the other races don't have anything near as "out there".

     

    Now, if that shorty race could "summon" a steam-robotic suit as an exo-skeleton then perhaps the "sillyness" would be evened out. However, I've not seen anything that equates to it.

    This. This. And this.

    This makes me think you don't know a whole lot about Guild Wars 2.

    ...

    Did you seriously just compare an MMO with a restaurant? More importantly, did you just compare Guild Wars 2 with a restaurant that has roaches? image Your awful analogies aren't helping to make your point.

     

    Edit: Even worse, you compared it with a diner.  image

  • revy66revy66 Member Posts: 464

    Originally posted by Fadedbomb

    Originally posted by Latella


    Originally posted by Fadedbomb


    Originally posted by Ranyr


    Originally posted by Fadedbomb



    They've gone too far imo. Transformations should have been relegated to a seperate class (BeastMaster, Shapeshifter, PieMaster?). This just seems too rediculous now, and I'll probably pass on GW2 now :(.

    So because one race in the game shapeshifts you won't play it at all? Amazing.

    I like how you missed the point entirely. If ONE race in specific, can "shapeshift" into some crazy animal form it's simply too far into the realm of random, over the top, sillyness.

     

    They SHOULD have made shapeshifting a class, so that not one race is more "amazing" than the other. You obviously don't understand, so trying to explain it to you obviously wouldn't make sense.

    Or perhaps you are just overreacting over a small ¿issue? I don´t consider the norns somehow superior because they can become furries on steroids. It´s just part of their character and deciding not to play the game for such thing is...well... to each their own i guess.

    It's called "foresight". If you go into a diner and you see dead roaches everywhere you have the FORESIGHT that perhaps they've been in the food prepared at that diner. Therefore, you know you've got a HIGH chance of seeing more roaches, and they'll probably be in your food.

     

    Same thing here, I see the sillyness that is being involved within GW2. It's not even acceptable for an RPG to give the "Norn" an amazing, over the top, were-form when the other races don't have anything near as "out there".

     

    Now, if that shorty race could "summon" a steam-robotic suit as an exo-skeleton then perhaps the "sillyness" would be evened out. However, I've not seen anything that equates to it.

    Other races can do cool things too. Not all is lost because one race can transform into an animal. Perhaps another race can summon something. I'd personally choose the summon race over the Norn so there you have your answer.

  • Grigor_BronGrigor_Bron Member Posts: 129

    Originally posted by Fadedbomb

     

    It's called "foresight". If you go into a diner and you see dead roaches everywhere you have the FORESIGHT that perhaps they've been in the food prepared at that diner. Therefore, you know you've got a HIGH chance of seeing more roaches, and they'll probably be in your food.

     

    Same thing here, I see the sillyness that is being involved within GW2. It's not even acceptable for an RPG to give the "Norn" an amazing, over the top, were-form when the other races don't have anything near as "out there".

     

    Now, if that shorty race could "summon" a steam-robotic suit as an exo-skeleton then perhaps the "sillyness" would be evened out. However, I've not seen anything that equates to it.

    I don't quite understand the cockroach reference so I'll leave it alone for now. 

    Let's step back and look at all non-human races within the game. The asura can summon giant magic-powered robots (GOLEMs) to do their bidding (potential exo-skeleton aplications notwithstanding). The charr are themselves enormous lion-minotaurs who, as one of their racial abilities, can summon three more of the same to fight alongside them. And don't even get me started with the sylvari. They are plant people. Literally people who have been sculpted out of leaves and such... I don't know about you, but I'd say the overall "out there"edness of the different races is fairly even.

  • UnlightUnlight Member Posts: 2,540

    Originally posted by revy66

    Originally posted by Fadedbomb

    Originally posted by Latella

    Originally posted by Fadedbomb

    Originally posted by Ranyr

    Originally posted by Fadedbomb

    They've gone too far imo. Transformations should have been relegated to a seperate class (BeastMaster, Shapeshifter, PieMaster?). This just seems too rediculous now, and I'll probably pass on GW2 now :(.

    So because one race in the game shapeshifts you won't play it at all? Amazing.

    I like how you missed the point entirely. If ONE race in specific, can "shapeshift" into some crazy animal form it's simply too far into the realm of random, over the top, sillyness.

     

    They SHOULD have made shapeshifting a class, so that not one race is more "amazing" than the other. You obviously don't understand, so trying to explain it to you obviously wouldn't make sense.

    Or perhaps you are just overreacting over a small ¿issue? I don´t consider the norns somehow superior because they can become furries on steroids. It´s just part of their character and deciding not to play the game for such thing is...well... to each their own i guess.

    It's called "foresight". If you go into a diner and you see dead roaches everywhere you have the FORESIGHT that perhaps they've been in the food prepared at that diner. Therefore, you know you've got a HIGH chance of seeing more roaches, and they'll probably be in your food.

     

    Same thing here, I see the sillyness that is being involved within GW2. It's not even acceptable for an RPG to give the "Norn" an amazing, over the top, were-form when the other races don't have anything near as "out there".

     

    Now, if that shorty race could "summon" a steam-robotic suit as an exo-skeleton then perhaps the "sillyness" would be evened out. However, I've not seen anything that equates to it.

    Other races can do cool things too. Not all is lost because one race can transform into an animal. Perhaps another race can summon something. I'd personally choose the summon race over the Norn so there you have your answer.

    I believe charr can summon members of their warband and asura can summon a golem.  Sylvari *might* be able to summon a tamed oakheart.

    EDIT:

    Uhh, yeah.  Pretty much Grigor_Bron said, plus the oakheart stuff.

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