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Gaming goes political
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Honestly I don't think it is wise for a gaming company to get involved in politics. Imagine if a game hd you shooting the President.? Al Sharpton? A head shot to John Stewart and Rachel Maddow? Would you expect nothing to happen?
It brings bad attention to the gaming industry and is asking for regulatory slaps on the whole industry. You may get some media attention now, but congressional hearings - already leary of gaming companies for "corrupting the youth", now has more fodder.
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That game sounds awesome, but I agree with you, perhaps not the best subject for a videogame, at least not in the US. Also, from the article:
Some researchers contend that first-person shooter games, where the user wields weapons to attack human targets, encourage actual acts of violence by helping a potential gunman to visualize and practice an attack.
LOL
<childish, provocative and highly speculative banner about your favorite game goes here>
While I think very little of Palin, Beck, and O'Reilly, crafting their likenesses as targets in a commercial video game steps beyond the pale. Using this platform (the gaming industry) for expressing political opinions is ultimately hurtful to the industry.
Hmm, I wonder how a 24 or West Wing game would do.
It looks like something I'd find on albinoblacksheep but the report reads as if it's a commercial title out in the shops right now.
Don't see what the fuss is about tbh.
Huh, another author who is clearly biased against video games. These luddites seem to be multiplying.
Idon't see the problem? The recipients of said treatment have been pushing violent rhetoric of their own for years now, they aren't victims here. Besides, this won't sway anyone who doesn't already have their misguided mind made up about violence in video games. People who think fictional violence leads to real violence are usually attached to a much larger mythology-based lifestyle, and are painfully unaware of the irony behind such a stance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24:_The_Game
I agree that the individuals mentioned peddle in violent rhetoric and are miserable excuses for human beings, but I think the point here is that this will only backlash against the gaming industry.
I disagree with your assessment that it won't sway minds. This is exactly how minds are swayed. When enough of the persuaded seek action, it becomes the precursor to policy. Punitive policy. Stupid and misguided policy, but punitive nonetheless.
This one is cool from a technical point of view.
http://www.cool.com.au/computers-technology/personal-computers/jfk-reloaded-revisited-20060414256/
It shows all the questions around if the shot was possible is bunk, the shot it totally possible.
Every company is involved in politics and their own agenda. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to climb out of the river. Is it ok to insert politics into music, film, art, books, etc?
PS2, no wonder i'd never heard of it. From the reviews it sounds like it could have been quite good if they'd given it decent gameplay to go with the good story it had.
TDS, these are the people whose idealogical ancestors protested against violence in Bugs Bunny, and before than railed against Popeye, The Three Stooges and alcohol. They gave us Prohibition and replaced our entertainment with pablum. Prohibition didn't hold, and the pablum is just as 'unhealthy' as the raving hoards claimed the classic cartoons to have been. They are intolerent of new ideas. In the past 25 years, they've crusaded against D&D, Star Wars and Harry Potter. If they don't understand it, don't want to understand something, or simply don't find the same enjoyment as someone else might, then it must be evil in their eyes.
Just a few weeks ago, a teen killed his great-grandmother and injured his grandmother with a sword. I was terrified that this would be a rallying cry against Conan, Lord of the Rings or anything fantasy. It hasn't manifested (yet), but I know there are still those out there in society that want to censor my thoughts, and tell me how I should live and what I should enjoy. Life must exist within their narrow view, everything else must be evil.
These people are the nameless, faceless enemy of our time. Unfortunately, there's every indication that they outnumber us.
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
The great thing about living in the US is having the freedom to create a videogame the way you want it, regardless of the context* because of the constitution.
Even if I dont agree with the creation itself, I would fight for the developers freedom to create it.
Politics are in everything. Some are left and some are right.
Know who you are, who they are, and what you believe and what they believe.
footnote
*unless it breaks the law
Sadly there are idiots out there who advocate the killing of political figures because they disagree with them. Since they cant do so in real life without consequences so they make games to simulate it. IMO Its wrong and shouldnt be done, but cant tell them not to do it.
***Raving Rabbid engages in plunger to lightsaber comabt with Darth Maul!!***
All my opinions are just that..opinions. If you like my opinions..coolness.If you dont like my opinion....I really dont care.
Playing: ESO, WOT, Smite, and Marvel Heroes
That is based on a TV fictional series. Games from Tv/movies are commonplace.
In regards to our freedoms,- note I didn't say we should ban the game. My point was this is a foolish move for the game developer because our games are already under intense scrutiny. Sure my right leaning news organization picked this up, but rest assurred if the Tea Party created a game listing liberal icons as targets, you would be hearing from everywhere of the outrage of the Tea Party Gaming company etc. So much public pressure would be brought upon congress that the company would be forced to pull it and perhaps even suffer financially from lawsuits (using someones likeness without permission, etc.)
Indy game companies with edgy themes might not proceed with their creative work - "its not worth it".
Of course there can be politics in anything out there. However don't cry when politics decides how games are to be created in the name of "protecting the innocent children", etc.
agreed. however, i think they are just louder right now, but they haven't always been.
on a similar note, let's try and remember *one* social conservative who was pro abolitionist, pro women's vote, or pro civil rights.
having trouble thinking of one? there's a reason for that. as you point out they'd jump at their own shadow if they didn't recognize it.
"There are at least two kinds of games.
One could be called finite, the other infinite.
A finite game is played for the purpose of winning,
an infinite game for the purpose of continuing play."
Finite and Infinite Games, James Carse
They do this with movies, books and television, why is it surprising that people would do this with the next biggest form of entertainment? This isn't the first politically themed game to come out, and it won't be the last.
It is a pretty poor platform for political statements though. You definitely get the, "I don't like the Tea Party!" idea, but you don't get much in the way of actual thinking or promotion of ideas beyond, "Don't like this!"
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
Aye,
I don't care if you are Left, Right or Middle - A game like this is really only meant to provoke a response in a specific group, grab headlines and grab attention. Sadly all it will really do is bring up uneeded disscussions about the gaming industry and creators needing limits and strict regulations - basically a lot of uneeded headaches for the rest of us....
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
I happen to agree with this statement. But I have been told before, on these forums even, that video games are NOT art. Well, I disagree. I think they are just as much art as sculpture, oil painting, playwriting, ballet, etc., etc. They are a more technological art, but....they are still art. And yes, art expresses all kinds of things....as it should.
However, will it end up with a terrible backlash against video games....yes. Both a shame and pity, but you aren't really "allowed" to say just anything. The "rules" aren't the same for everyone.
President of The Marvelously Meowhead Fan Club
O'Reilly probably will love this kind of publicity. It just validates him. Ignoring people like him is the best solution .Doing things like this only make them more important than they deserve.
I see it as a publicity stunt. Tacky makes for great sensationalist headlines.
Really? Can you link me to the movies, books ot TV shows where real (not fictitious) politicians currently in office are being repeatedly executed?
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Never going to find one unless it's a Biography or Documentaries.
Agree with a previous post that if it were based on the dems it would be an even bigger thing then it is now.
Guess we need to wait and see now how badly this will affect gaming.
funny that these guys end up on the other side of the stick and qq about it. these exact same people support ideas like this that attack their muslim counter parts.
right wing muslim extremist = taliban etc
right wing american extremist = tea party
if this game came out shooting muslims they would praise it and call it patriotic. they are no different from the taliban themselves.
this exact same group is responsible for releasing the "9/11 coloring book" which targets 3-8 year old children. in it, you get to color osama bin laden. that alone is trying to promote racism and hate towards other people.
yet they still qq when they finally get outted for the monsters they are.
oh and for the record, i am not a democrate or republican. im an independant. one of the last few left.
+1 for this game.
Exactly - a historical depiction of an actual death, not a video/story about murdering contemporary politicians.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
I have to admit that my first reaction to that statement was thiat is seemed like a bit of Undercover Brother thinking going on there, so I decided to research it myself and, while I still don't see the connection between allowing someone to color in multi-cultural pictures and promoting racism*, pages like crying at a memorial wall or action shots of shooting Muslims (terrorist or not) are just inappropriate for the target audience on so many levels.The shooting one is actually inappropriate for ANY audience at ANY level when you think about it.
*This view seems so odd to me, as in elementary school, acknowledging the diversity of the class and embracing it was encouraged. Everyone being different was always presented as a good thing. That the same approach in today's world would be perceived as racism is scary.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre