Sorry to say, but zombies have been romanticized before... at least technically. I can't remember WHICH movie it was, but I believe it was one of the "of the dead" movies... guy and his girlfriend get into a motorcycle accident, she's gravely injured. Guy's dad just so happens to be working on a certain... life-bringing kind of concoction, i.e. zombievitis. He gets her there and infects her with the zombie-juice. The rest of the movie is spent with him trying to protect his slowly changing girlfriend, while she struggles to deal with her growing hunger. It all culminates with a rather... Romeo&Juliet ending, but with fire.
And the whole Zombie>Vampire thing only stands when you compare one subsection of the vampire branch with them. Twilight isn't about vampires though, oh sure they are in there but it definitely aint about them from the few pieces of crap I've glimpsed. You want real vampires? They are out there. They have their own games, they have their own better movies.
Besides, zombies and vampires have one major thing in common, both of them have been shat on by Uwe Boll and his horrible excrement-caked hackjobs that are in some twist of fate not even the devil could support, managed to infect itself onto a film reel and be played as a movie.
True Blood is a good show! Dont hate on it because it popular.
Twilight on the other hand is extremely bad, EMO, twinkling vamps? wtf?
Zombies>Vampires.
Sadly all the turbo geeks of the net have to hate on anything thats popular since they associate popularity with the dude that dunked their head in a toilet in JR highschool...
Right now, the Zombie rules the day. Books, movies, games. But everything is cyclic, and the Zombie will once again fade into the shadows, even the current authors know it.
It's truly a sad time for Vampire fans. Not that great Vampire books aren't being written, it's just hard to find them on the shelf stuffed with thousands of Teem/Young Adult/Adult Softcore Romance books. I blame Anne Rice/Rampling. Her "I love You, your so beautiful" romanticized Vampires really started this trend of writers like Hamilton, Banks, etc, that sell more than anything else. Even those authors credit her with being their inspiration. For every good Zombie or Vampire novel written there are hundreds if not thousands of the "Paranormal Romance" novels done. Ugh.
Mainstream Vampires quite frankly suck. We're even seeing Zombie Romance novels now, and not just a few, but many, and it's growing. Once again, Ugh.
It's all good I guess, everything changes, than changes back. Until than, I'll just go back and read Monastary by Whalen, They Thirst by McCammon, The Necroscope books by Lumley, Blood Red by Moore, etc. The Del Toro/Hogan series is good. The Maberry Joe Ledger series is good, as are Maberry's Rot & Ruin and Dust & Decay. (Though young adult they are well done and dark.)
I have and always will prefer Vampires. Just not these shiny, beautiful ones that are so popular now. I like my Vampires brutal, ugly, and consumed with only one thing, drinking the world.
No Zombigame can match with Vampire Bloodlines - Zombies go Home!
"Torquemada... do not implore him for compassion. Torquemada... do not beg him for forgiveness. Torquemada... do not ask him for mercy. Let's face it, you can't Torquemada anything!"
Really? I always perceived vampires as more of a practical threat, they are actually mobile; if a zombie attacks, just walk away at a brisk pace.
The traditional notion of the shambling, crippled zombie whose infection is only spread by a bite never made much sense to me. They are way too easy to avoid, how would that even turn into an epidemic?
Sorry to say, but zombies have been romanticized before... at least technically. I can't remember WHICH movie it was, but I believe it was one of the "of the dead" movies...
Right now, the Zombie rules the day. Books, movies, games. But everything is cyclic, and the Zombie will once again fade into the shadows, even the current authors know it.
It's truly a sad time for Vampire fans. Not that great Vampire books aren't being written, it's just hard to find them on the shelf stuffed with thousands of Teem/Young Adult/Adult Softcore Romance books. I blame Anne Rice/Rampling. Her "I love You, your so beautiful" romanticized Vampires really started this trend of writers like Hamilton, Banks, etc, that sell more than anything else. Even those authors credit her with being their inspiration. For every good Zombie or Vampire novel written there are hundreds if not thousands of the "Paranormal Romance" novels done. Ugh.
Mainstream Vampires quite frankly suck. We're even seeing Zombie Romance novels now, and not just a few, but many, and it's growing. Once again, Ugh.
It's all good I guess, everything changes, than changes back. Until than, I'll just go back and read Monastary by Whalen, They Thirst by McCammon, The Necroscope books by Lumley, Blood Red by Moore, etc. The Del Toro/Hogan series is good. The Maberry Joe Ledger series is good, as are Maberry's Rot & Ruin and Dust & Decay. (Though young adult they are well done and dark.)
I have and always will prefer Vampires. Just not these shiny, beautiful ones that are so popular now. I like my Vampires brutal, ugly, and consumed with only one thing, drinking the world.
I think we shold take the books to a whole new level with Zombie romance.
The Vampire is the latest victim of the age of the Participation Trophy. They even took some of the scare out of my favorite creature of the night, werewolves. When I was young Vampires and Werewolves were as real as cats and dogs and when you went home from your buddy's house in the dark you'd better pay attention and haul ass or you'd be the next victim. They were as real as that kid who cried outside in the winter and his face stuck taht way. And if you ever felt your belief waning all you had to do was turn on the TV and Scooby Doo and the 4 O'Clock movie would assure you that such vile and debased creatures existed and were hiding behind every tree waiting to gobble up children. The reason none of my generation was kidnapped and molested was we were so busy and so adept at avoiding Vampires, Werewolves, Zombies and Frankenseins that we were impossible for regular humans to catch.
Now it's all gone. Now anyone can be a vampire. It's easy. Everyone knows Vampires shop at Hot Topic, so just head on over and pick yourself out a pair of chunky black boots and a shirt with buckles. Don't want to leave the house for fear of getting sun on that white skin? No problem. Every other role player in your favorite MMORPG is an angst driven, emo - kid Vampire, so role 'em up and get stuck into it. Nothing is scary, nothing can hurt you and those things that go bump in the night are just friendly spirits watching over you while you sleep.
Yet why would anyone need a friendly ghost to watch over them while they sleep if there is nothing bad out there in the dark? Because, one day, inevitably, those scary monsters will be back. Not the half baked emo - kids, but the true souless flesh craving ghouls that stalked my childhood. In the end we need those terrifying images of the night just like we needed the stalwart and fearless heroes who eventually vanquished them, because when you make the bad guys into the heroes, well then the heroes have to go, and what is this world without the good guys and the bad guys to teach us wrong from right?
They'll be back. Bank on it. And when they come ... well those of us who are adept at avoiding them will have to hold classes on how to keep from becoming a statistic.
You have just won MMORPG.com, the Internet, and the Game of Life. Beautiful.
Zombies are better for number of reasons. But the one i'll point out/support is that zombies seem more possible or plausable than vampires. Vampires are magical BS. While Zombies' origin involves science. Sure theres demonic/magic zombies, but when talking about zombies, people tend to think of the sci fi ones, not the fantasy ones.
Vampires (non-twilight, but those simply are not vampires. those are just [word thats really offensive]s) arent that great for me personally, because they just seem more like pests. The only time I can enjoy a vampire movie is when I like the main character that kills the vampire (Edgar Frog FTW). But this isnt about the specific movies I assume. Vampires them selves are just so meh. But with zombies, its about survival, its everyone's problem. I notice in vampire movies, its only a group of retarded teenagers' problem.
Its really based on opinion though, so its kind of pointless. But I think we can all agree that zombies and vampires are way better than whatever those twilight sparkle things are.
You and I both know those arent the vampires that everyone was dying for the last couple years.
Its Twilight Vampires vs Walking dead Zombies!!! You still pick vamps dude?
You pick the flavour of bloodsucker you want, and I'll pick the flavour that I want. Just because Twilight decided to emo up vampires, doesn't mean it's now canon. These are the vamps for me. You're welcome to your assembly line undead flesh sacks if that's what tickles you.
Right now, the Zombie rules the day. Books, movies, games. But everything is cyclic, and the Zombie will once again fade into the shadows, even the current authors know it.
It's truly a sad time for Vampire fans. Not that great Vampire books aren't being written, it's just hard to find them on the shelf stuffed with thousands of Teem/Young Adult/Adult Softcore Romance books. I blame Anne Rice/Rampling. Her "I love You, your so beautiful" romanticized Vampires really started this trend of writers like Hamilton, Banks, etc, that sell more than anything else. Even those authors credit her with being their inspiration. For every good Zombie or Vampire novel written there are hundreds if not thousands of the "Paranormal Romance" novels done. Ugh.
Mainstream Vampires quite frankly suck. We're even seeing Zombie Romance novels now, and not just a few, but many, and it's growing. Once again, Ugh.
It's all good I guess, everything changes, than changes back. Until than, I'll just go back and read Monastary by Whalen, They Thirst by McCammon, The Necroscope books by Lumley, Blood Red by Moore, etc. The Del Toro/Hogan series is good. The Maberry Joe Ledger series is good, as are Maberry's Rot & Ruin and Dust & Decay. (Though young adult they are well done and dark.)
I have and always will prefer Vampires. Just not these shiny, beautiful ones that are so popular now. I like my Vampires brutal, ugly, and consumed with only one thing, drinking the world.
You're probably the only other person I've come across whose read They Thirst. Gonna have to go dig it up now that you've reminded me of it.
I would never chose zombies over vampires. Zombies are simply too stupid and because of that, too boring. I do hate the Twilight style of vampires though. From the current vampire tvseries I can only stand True Blood.
Zombies are so boring. I could see them as one of the monster types in some kind of post apocalyptic world (like Fallen Earth), but never as the main theme of a MMO. I find fighting zombies more boring then swatting mosquitos. At least mosquitos try to avoid your hits.
^^ this.. vampires all the way, but not the oens related to the Twilight movies please, I mean real vampires.
I always thought Vampires were sissies,even before women turned them into sparkling emo sissies..
I grew up watching zombies,from the original Night of the living dead,to the cheesey 80's ones,to the remake of the original NotLD (which they took seriously and also scared the poo out of me.),to todays The Walking Dead,the show that,in my opinion,is the only thing worth a damn on TV these days.When it came to scary movies,Zombies were always my greatest fear and my greatest love.
Not some lame ass man with a black and red velvet cape,slicked back hair and fangs.
...Except female Vampires,they're ok becuase usually theyre pretty damn hot.
While I do agree with you all on the point that Twilight has really turned Vampires into tweeny popculture, it was actually around Anne Rice's Interveiw With a Vampire when Vampires starting making the slow and steady trek from blood thirsty bastard raised from the dead to feast on your blood to soft core porn aimed at the masses of horny housewives who want to suck on something.
Personally I really dispise the old and done to death undead themes. Writers need to take a step back from the average roadkill and take the time to create, but once again that's really all based on the agent's/production companies and directors willing to take on the role if a horror era revolution would ever take place.... nothing happens without money, and money never comes unless it makes more money.
Yeah... im pretty sure i dont give a fuck about what other people think vampire and zombies are, i mean twilight didnt ruin vampires for me, just as justin bieber didnt ruin music for me.
EVERYTHING can be a good movie/book/game provided that you know what you are doing. And even the best ideas can fail if you dont know what you are doing or are actively trying to ruin it.
The reason none of my generation was kidnapped and molested was we were so busy and so adept at avoiding Vampires, Werewolves, Zombies and Frankenseins that we were impossible for regular humans to catch.
The spectre of death does not haunt me, for I am already dead- Some game quote.
I used to be mesmerized by vampires and disqusted by flesh oozing zombies. But it's been played out. What I fear now is no life beyond death. But I don't fear it enough not to want the release.
Deadliest Warrior would disagree with ya, but they were using 30 days of night vampires.....and the vamp did sort of turn into a zombie? at the end. Still nice write up, lame Mr sparkles vampires are the worst.
I saw that too - last night - I thought it was a Halloween special , but in September? Anyhow, who would have thought there were "zombie" experts? Vampire enthusiasts yes. Guess the Vampires vs. Werewolves weren't as hotly debated?
Not only did I also see that Deadliest Warrior episode, I've got to throw my hat in with the 30 Days of Night crowd. I've got to say, I had some strong disagreements with their test data. Vampires succumbing to the zombie virus? Really?!? I always thought that LIVING things got infected with viruses, not other undead. Whatever.
Are zombies better than vamps? It depends. I agree w/Coyote that they are more entertaining to watch than sparkling/emo/douchebag teenage vamps. "Real" vampires (just my opinion and definition of) are much darker, sinister, blood-thirsty, cruel, feral, visceral, and just downright scary. I think 30 Days of Night nailed it and it's one of my all-time favorite vampire movies. Now zombies....ugh. There was a time and a day that I enjoyed a good zombie flick. That day, and ship, have LONG since sailed. The modern entertainment industry is like a zombie horde of zombie crap. Movies...TV shows...video games....books....sorry, I'm just zombied-out. If a zombie could do something other than travel in large groups, stumble around with arms outstretched, eat people, eat people's brains, burst through walls, burst through windows, burst through doors, burst through attic doors, burst through garage doors, rinse, repeat....I could maybe enjoy it. The only twists I ever see, anymore, on zombies; is where they show up, who they eat/chase, how they got to be zombies in the 1st plce, and whatever firecracker scares are thrown in. VERY boring and just played out. I'm gonna go take a nap while I wait for the zombies to catch up to me. Ciao.
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I like werewolves more because they are very similar to Anthros in a way. Zombies however are more creepy and scary than vampires and werewolves.
Mr. Barlow and Selene agree: vampires > zombies.
Sorry to say, but zombies have been romanticized before... at least technically. I can't remember WHICH movie it was, but I believe it was one of the "of the dead" movies... guy and his girlfriend get into a motorcycle accident, she's gravely injured. Guy's dad just so happens to be working on a certain... life-bringing kind of concoction, i.e. zombievitis. He gets her there and infects her with the zombie-juice. The rest of the movie is spent with him trying to protect his slowly changing girlfriend, while she struggles to deal with her growing hunger. It all culminates with a rather... Romeo&Juliet ending, but with fire.
And the whole Zombie>Vampire thing only stands when you compare one subsection of the vampire branch with them. Twilight isn't about vampires though, oh sure they are in there but it definitely aint about them from the few pieces of crap I've glimpsed. You want real vampires? They are out there. They have their own games, they have their own better movies.
Besides, zombies and vampires have one major thing in common, both of them have been shat on by Uwe Boll and his horrible excrement-caked hackjobs that are in some twist of fate not even the devil could support, managed to infect itself onto a film reel and be played as a movie.
True Blood is a good show! Dont hate on it because it popular.
Twilight on the other hand is extremely bad, EMO, twinkling vamps? wtf?
Zombies>Vampires.
Sadly all the turbo geeks of the net have to hate on anything thats popular since they associate popularity with the dude that dunked their head in a toilet in JR highschool...
So expect a ton of zombie hate from now on.
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You and I both know those arent the vampires that everyone was dying for the last couple years.
Its Twilight Vampires vs Walking dead Zombies!!! You still pick vamps dude?
Playing: Nothing
Looking forward to: Nothing
Right now, the Zombie rules the day. Books, movies, games. But everything is cyclic, and the Zombie will once again fade into the shadows, even the current authors know it.
It's truly a sad time for Vampire fans. Not that great Vampire books aren't being written, it's just hard to find them on the shelf stuffed with thousands of Teem/Young Adult/Adult Softcore Romance books. I blame Anne Rice/Rampling. Her "I love You, your so beautiful" romanticized Vampires really started this trend of writers like Hamilton, Banks, etc, that sell more than anything else. Even those authors credit her with being their inspiration. For every good Zombie or Vampire novel written there are hundreds if not thousands of the "Paranormal Romance" novels done. Ugh.
Mainstream Vampires quite frankly suck. We're even seeing Zombie Romance novels now, and not just a few, but many, and it's growing. Once again, Ugh.
It's all good I guess, everything changes, than changes back. Until than, I'll just go back and read Monastary by Whalen, They Thirst by McCammon, The Necroscope books by Lumley, Blood Red by Moore, etc. The Del Toro/Hogan series is good. The Maberry Joe Ledger series is good, as are Maberry's Rot & Ruin and Dust & Decay. (Though young adult they are well done and dark.)
I have and always will prefer Vampires. Just not these shiny, beautiful ones that are so popular now. I like my Vampires brutal, ugly, and consumed with only one thing, drinking the world.
No Zombigame can match with Vampire Bloodlines - Zombies go Home!
"Torquemada... do not implore him for compassion. Torquemada... do not beg him for forgiveness. Torquemada... do not ask him for mercy. Let's face it, you can't Torquemada anything!"
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Really? I always perceived vampires as more of a practical threat, they are actually mobile; if a zombie attacks, just walk away at a brisk pace.
The traditional notion of the shambling, crippled zombie whose infection is only spread by a bite never made much sense to me. They are way too easy to avoid, how would that even turn into an epidemic?
I would much rather have a zombie apacolypse rather than a vampire one... much more fun.
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Looks like Return of the Living Dead 3 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_of_the_Living_Dead_3).
I think we shold take the books to a whole new level with Zombie romance.
You have just won MMORPG.com, the Internet, and the Game of Life. Beautiful.
Zombies are better for number of reasons. But the one i'll point out/support is that zombies seem more possible or plausable than vampires. Vampires are magical BS. While Zombies' origin involves science. Sure theres demonic/magic zombies, but when talking about zombies, people tend to think of the sci fi ones, not the fantasy ones.
Vampires (non-twilight, but those simply are not vampires. those are just [word thats really offensive]s) arent that great for me personally, because they just seem more like pests. The only time I can enjoy a vampire movie is when I like the main character that kills the vampire (Edgar Frog FTW). But this isnt about the specific movies I assume. Vampires them selves are just so meh. But with zombies, its about survival, its everyone's problem. I notice in vampire movies, its only a group of retarded teenagers' problem.
Its really based on opinion though, so its kind of pointless. But I think we can all agree that zombies and vampires are way better than whatever those twilight sparkle things are.
Vampires make better characters (If done properly). Zombies make better subject matter (Again, if done properly).
I'm about 3/4s of the way through World War Z... wow... THAT is how to write about Zombies.
You pick the flavour of bloodsucker you want, and I'll pick the flavour that I want. Just because Twilight decided to emo up vampires, doesn't mean it's now canon. These are the vamps for me. You're welcome to your assembly line undead flesh sacks if that's what tickles you.
You're probably the only other person I've come across whose read They Thirst. Gonna have to go dig it up now that you've reminded me of it.
^^ this.. vampires all the way, but not the oens related to the Twilight movies please, I mean real vampires.
I always thought Vampires were sissies,even before women turned them into sparkling emo sissies..
I grew up watching zombies,from the original Night of the living dead,to the cheesey 80's ones,to the remake of the original NotLD (which they took seriously and also scared the poo out of me.),to todays The Walking Dead,the show that,in my opinion,is the only thing worth a damn on TV these days.When it came to scary movies,Zombies were always my greatest fear and my greatest love.
Not some lame ass man with a black and red velvet cape,slicked back hair and fangs.
...Except female Vampires,they're ok becuase usually theyre pretty damn hot.
While I do agree with you all on the point that Twilight has really turned Vampires into tweeny popculture, it was actually around Anne Rice's Interveiw With a Vampire when Vampires starting making the slow and steady trek from blood thirsty bastard raised from the dead to feast on your blood to soft core porn aimed at the masses of horny housewives who want to suck on something.
Personally I really dispise the old and done to death undead themes. Writers need to take a step back from the average roadkill and take the time to create, but once again that's really all based on the agent's/production companies and directors willing to take on the role if a horror era revolution would ever take place.... nothing happens without money, and money never comes unless it makes more money.
Vampires before they were turned into glitterfreaks by far.
*thinks zombie*
*Thinks again...*
*thinks vampire*
Yeah... im pretty sure i dont give a fuck about what other people think vampire and zombies are, i mean twilight didnt ruin vampires for me, just as justin bieber didnt ruin music for me.
EVERYTHING can be a good movie/book/game provided that you know what you are doing. And even the best ideas can fail if you dont know what you are doing or are actively trying to ruin it.
I'm gonna have to quote this from now on...
Well done.
Seems a little off topic for a gaming site. But interesting and funny at the same time. Enjoy
btw my hair is better and I dont need hairspray
The spectre of death does not haunt me, for I am already dead- Some game quote.
I used to be mesmerized by vampires and disqusted by flesh oozing zombies. But it's been played out. What I fear now is no life beyond death. But I don't fear it enough not to want the release.
Godspeed my fellow gamer
Not only did I also see that Deadliest Warrior episode, I've got to throw my hat in with the 30 Days of Night crowd. I've got to say, I had some strong disagreements with their test data. Vampires succumbing to the zombie virus? Really?!? I always thought that LIVING things got infected with viruses, not other undead. Whatever.
Are zombies better than vamps? It depends. I agree w/Coyote that they are more entertaining to watch than sparkling/emo/douchebag teenage vamps. "Real" vampires (just my opinion and definition of) are much darker, sinister, blood-thirsty, cruel, feral, visceral, and just downright scary. I think 30 Days of Night nailed it and it's one of my all-time favorite vampire movies. Now zombies....ugh. There was a time and a day that I enjoyed a good zombie flick. That day, and ship, have LONG since sailed. The modern entertainment industry is like a zombie horde of zombie crap. Movies...TV shows...video games....books....sorry, I'm just zombied-out. If a zombie could do something other than travel in large groups, stumble around with arms outstretched, eat people, eat people's brains, burst through walls, burst through windows, burst through doors, burst through attic doors, burst through garage doors, rinse, repeat....I could maybe enjoy it. The only twists I ever see, anymore, on zombies; is where they show up, who they eat/chase, how they got to be zombies in the 1st plce, and whatever firecracker scares are thrown in. VERY boring and just played out. I'm gonna go take a nap while I wait for the zombies to catch up to me. Ciao.