You guys need to stop worrying about the hypes of any game on here. Go look how many people are actually hyping it. A very small amount. Hype here means nada.
I haven't been on the site in a while, and I noticed that ArcheAge has dropped noticeibly on the game list. I was looking forward to its release, and I thought a lot of others were, too. What happened?
It has nothing to do with Archeage, it's a manipulation of the ratings system to allow TOR the #2 spot. GW2 is still the same but the rest of the games are in the same order just have a far lower score. For months Archeage had been between 8.2-8.5 (#2) with The Secret World around 8.0-8.1(#3). Suddenly they both drop to their current levels and *gasp* TOR is now #2.
I haven't been on the site in a while, and I noticed that ArcheAge has dropped noticeibly on the game list. I was looking forward to its release, and I thought a lot of others were, too. What happened?
It has nothing to do with Archeage, it's a manipulation of the ratings system to allow TOR the #2 spot. GW2 is still the same but the rest of the games are in the same order just have a far lower score. For months Archeage had been between 8.2-8.5 (#2) with The Secret World around 8.0-8.1(#3). Suddenly they both drop to their current levels and *gasp* TOR is now #2.
nothing to do with TOR either. its all GW2 people. TOR has dropped a ton as well. TOR, AA, Firefall, tera and TSW were all over 8. now none of them are. the reason why TOR has stayed higher than the others is because it has so many more positive ratings so the GW2 negative bombardment doesnt affect is as much.
TOR has still dropped .30 points. AA .40-.50. TOR has 4000 votes. AA 670.
this is a GW2 ploy. nothing more.
EVERY other game has gone done by atleast .30. while GW2 has gone up
lol a lot of fuss about a hype ratio ... something which is virtual in a virtual world
i'll say one thing: although i'm in survival mode financially this is the one game which makes me think about a payed subscribtion nevertheless (in case it's not f2p with or without cash shop). how's that for 'hype'?
Originally posted by blognorg I haven't been on the site in a while, and I noticed that ArcheAge has dropped noticeibly on the game list. I was looking forward to its release, and I thought a lot of others were, too. What happened?
This site's game rating list means nothing, unless you really believe Atlantic Online and Perpetuum are somehow highly rated games most people are playing.
I admit, it's fallen on my radar mostly due to the lack of info.
Same. Concept sounds great, videos I've seen looked good. Not sure what the holdup is other than it's not done and taking much longer than what I'd expect.
I hope it doesn't work out to be one of those 75% finished games that looks good and cancels before release.
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Stil have a very bad taste in my mouth from it, still bleeding eyes from the endless farming of the same mobs.
One asian mmo might break that bubble of endless boring grinding but i dont know if AA will do that, we can hope tough.
In the meantime GW2 will bring fresh wind in the rotten lands of mmo's.
Its fantasy mmo #123890 but its all we get till something realy diffrent like a (Eve) mmo comes along wich plays just totaly diffrent.
An mmo made to be hard with political systems and alliances with huge wars battling out on 1 big server.
That is something iam waiting for, but it might not happen in my lifetime :P
Reason is the copy and paste structures of mmo desingers who dont dare to take a step in the unknown.
Saying GW2 is being a sheep and then waiting for Archage is kinda stupid thing to say when GW2 will break almost any traditional rule in the mmo market.
While AA might seem awesoem in many regards its to soon to get any decent verdict on that matter as so much can change in development.
GW2
Archage
Realy hope those 2 can live up to its expectations and be all that we ask for a awesome mmo to play, but still Asian mmo's fail harder then western mmo's when it comes to diversity etc etc..
Stil have a very bad taste in my mouth from it, still bleeding eyes from the endless farming of the same mobs.
One asian mmo might break that bubble of endless boring grinding but i dont know if AA will do that, we can hope tough.
In the meantime GW2 will bring fresh wind in the rotten lands of mmo's.
Its fantasy mmo #123890 but its all we get till something realy diffrent like a (Eve) mmo comes along wich plays just totaly diffrent.
An mmo made to be hard with political systems and alliances with huge wars battling out on 1 big server.
That is something iam waiting for, but it might not happen in my lifetime :P
Reason is the copy and paste structures of mmo desingers who dont dare to take a step in the unknown.
Saying GW2 is being a sheep and then waiting for Archage is kinda stupid thing to say when GW2 will break almost any traditional rule in the mmo market.
While AA might seem awesoem in many regards its to soon to get any decent verdict on that matter as so much can change in development.
GW2
Archage
Realy hope those 2 can live up to its expectations and be all that we ask for a awesome mmo to play, but still Asian mmo's fail harder then western mmo's when it comes to diversity etc etc..
Time will tell tough.
I think AA will just try to break the bubble of endless grinding, as you will probably be able to lvl by crafting also, and other activities. I want it to certainly break the bubble of endless and pointless questing, which is as boring as endless grinding. Keep quests on necessary level, i.e. for aquiring mount or pet, for learing a crafting, or gathering ability, something that will have some meaning.
I totally agree with the one server concept you describe. It will be awesome. This will make politics work perfectly and we will at last get PvP with meaning (territory/castle control), and not the silly pointless instanced PvP battlegrounds, which are an excuse of PvP.
The "copy/paste" mmo mechanics you refer to, is the big mistake of mmo developers in the post-WoW era. They didn't get that WoW had this kind of success mainly because of its well established brand and storyline, and secondly because it introduced the "themepark" characteristics it has. So, everyone who followed just copied the themeparkish mechanics bringing nothing new actually, and lacking any "brand"...they of course failed.
That's why I have put my hopes on Asian developers rather than Western. Western ones can't get better/different than WoW. I don't know why, I can't explain it, but somehow WoW defined the way of doing things for the Western developers, and they are not willing to leave that path, despite the never-ending failures, for nearly 10 years now.
Now, the "brand" issue will guarantee the success of SWTOR, given that its mechanics can guarantee that it's funny and not frustrating playing SWTOR. That's why they followed the easy "themeparkish" way, they surely feel it can guarantee this minimum requirement, thus ensure the success. It was the easy way to go. But it is bringing nothing new.
AA has dropped in the ranking for one reason....the GW2 fanboys.
every single game on the list has gone down over 10 points at the minimum with GW2 actually gaining 2 pts at one time this week. now GW2 is back down to the 8.73 it was when the fanboys made their assault on every other game.
AA itself has dropped over .25 pts with ZERO info coming out about it. nothing bad, nothing good. AA was the only game to make a semi rebound from the GW2 assault as it climbed back up a few points before being hammered to death the last few days.
speaks volumes(atleast to me) as to what the GW2 community will be like
and this assault the past 2 weeks is not the first time the GW2 tards have done this
You got us.
lol srsly tho haven't you ever noticed how GW2 ppl don't really care to the point where they would criticize another game. They usually spend all their time doing their own thing: worshipping GW2.
If anything, it would be SWTOR ppl who are assaulting other games out of frustration with the several negative previews out there.
Or any other game's fanboys who are frustrated about their own game. I mean that is the main reason to "assault" another game, right?
Why bother giving another game a bad rating when you know that your favorite game is already in the top and probably will stay there?
The game won't be release till late Summer to Fall next year for NA and Europe, for now Korea get's to play with it, while we just wait.
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AA has dropped in the ranking for one reason....the GW2 fanboys.
every single game on the list has gone down over 10 points at the minimum with GW2 actually gaining 2 pts at one time this week. now GW2 is back down to the 8.73 it was when the fanboys made their assault on every other game.
AA itself has dropped over .25 pts with ZERO info coming out about it. nothing bad, nothing good. AA was the only game to make a semi rebound from the GW2 assault as it climbed back up a few points before being hammered to death the last few days.
speaks volumes(atleast to me) as to what the GW2 community will be like
and this assault the past 2 weeks is not the first time the GW2 tards have done this
You got us.
lol srsly tho haven't you ever noticed how GW2 ppl don't really care to the point where they would criticize another game. They usually spend all their time doing their own thing: worshipping GW2.
If anything, it would be SWTOR ppl who are assaulting other games out of frustration with the several negative previews out there.
Or any other game's fanboys who are frustrated about their own game. I mean that is the main reason to "assault" another game, right?
Why bother giving another game a bad rating when you know that your favorite game is already in the top and probably will stay there?
As for AA... It was probably due to lack of info.
You obviously haven't spent any time in the SWTOR forums watching GW2 fanbois whine and cry like little girls.
There is too many sheep i mean people following gw2 and swtor.Both those games make me laugh,i don't have to trial either game,as i have already seen enough to know they are both very weak games.
Wizardry why the heck do you have to insult people? If you find the games weak then that's your prerogative and more power to you. But just because someone embraces something that you dont' like doesn't make them sheep any more than it makes you a sheep for following archeage and jumping on its own bandwagon.
That statement can cut both ways you know.
Personally I hope ArcheAge does well, it seems to lean more towards "one" type of game I enjoy. But that doesn't mean that someone is something lesser because they follow and enjoy a game that might have more mainstream appeal.
Where did i say anyonme was not allowed to embrace something i don't like?Twisting words around to insult hmm nice..NOT.
Where did i say that statement coudln't go both ways?That is YOU saying that NOT me.
Where did i say or use the term "lesser" and relate it to "mainstream" ?
You did a butcher job of trying to insult me,exactly what you were telling me not to do.
Maybe a follower is not the best of words,i am not a walking dictionary..sorry.What i was describing is those and there are MANY that compliment a game based on OTHERS opinions.Example posting articles that have been written by ONE person or voted on by maybe 5/6 people.That does not a game make,so would that not be a follower?Also there is a LOT of people caliming to buy those two hyped games based on ONLY hype without ever playing it .I think i am allowed to have the opinion that they are buying these games based on follwoing hype..therefore a follower.
That DOES NOT mean i a am calling them a "lesser".To make a purchase without even trying the game,means what?What would Mr.Sorvath say they are using to deem the games worthy of a purchase?I said following hype,it's an opinion,it is allowed.
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Stil have a very bad taste in my mouth from it, still bleeding eyes from the endless farming of the same mobs.
One asian mmo might break that bubble of endless boring grinding but i dont know if AA will do that, we can hope tough.
Do you really lose that much sleep over games that dont interest you?
Western games are just as much of a grind,heck any game thats mechanics a person doesnt like is a grind to them but those very same mechanics enjoyed by a different person is not.I really wish people would stop trying to insinuate that asian games are the only ones that are a grind its getting old.
There is too many sheep i mean people following gw2 and swtor.Both those games make me laugh,i don't have to trial either game,as i have already seen enough to know they are both very weak games.
Wizardry why the heck do you have to insult people? If you find the games weak then that's your prerogative and more power to you. But just because someone embraces something that you dont' like doesn't make them sheep any more than it makes you a sheep for following archeage and jumping on its own bandwagon.
That statement can cut both ways you know.
Personally I hope ArcheAge does well, it seems to lean more towards "one" type of game I enjoy. But that doesn't mean that someone is something lesser because they follow and enjoy a game that might have more mainstream appeal.
Where did i say anyonme was not allowed to embrace something i don't like?Twisting words around to insult hmm nice..NOT.
Where did i say that statement coudln't go both ways?That is YOU saying that NOT me.
Where did i say or use the term "lesser" and relate it to "mainstream" ?
You did a butcher job of trying to insult me,exactly what you were telling me not to do.
Maybe a follower is not the best of words,i am not a walking dictionary..sorry.What i was describing is those and there are MANY that compliment a game based on OTHERS opinions.Example posting articles that have been written by ONE person or voted on by maybe 5/6 people.That does not a game make,so would that not be a follower?Also there is a LOT of people caliming to buy those two hyped games based on ONLY hype without ever playing it .I think i am allowed to have the opinion that they are buying these games based on follwoing hype..therefore a follower.
That DOES NOT mean i a am calling them a "lesser".To make a purchase without even trying the game,means what?What would Mr.Sorvath say they are using to deem the games worthy of a purchase?I said following hype,it's an opinion,it is allowed.
I was commenting more on you calling people sheep for following a game. Just because many people follow a game doesn't make them sheep.
I don't think people who like games like GW2 or SWToR or even WoW are sheep.
Calling someone a sheep is a derogatory term.
I'm not trying to insult you that was "you" taking it as such. I did however infer that you were calling them sheep because they were games that you didn't like After all, you did say "both those games make me laugh". That implies that you think less of them. Unless you are implying that they make you all fun and giggly inside. I doubt that.
You called the games weak and that means "lesser" to me. They are insubantial, not capable of fulfiling what they set out to do. Not strong in what they set out to do. Weak.
However, this makes more sense and at least better explains your position:
Maybe a follower is not the best of words,i am not a walking dictionary..sorry.What i was describing is those and there are MANY that compliment a game based on OTHERS opinions.Example posting articles that have been written by ONE person or voted on by maybe 5/6 people.That does not a game make,so would that not be a follower?Also there is a LOT of people caliming to buy those two hyped games based on ONLY hype without ever playing it .I think i am allowed to have the opinion that they are buying these games based on follwoing hype..therefore a follower.
Calling someone a sheep for following a game that you have deemed weak would be considered an insult as it implies that you have set the bar, deemed it "lesser" and therfore they are docile followers. And that's why I posted that.
The above yellow is not what you said in your first post and I would have actually agreed to the yellow part.
So as you have made yourself clear so I hope I have made my post more clear. Apologies if you think that I insulted you but that wasn't my intent.
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I had to make myself clear ,because you obviously formed your OWN words and definition to what i was referring to.
Not once did i EVER say people are sheep for following a game or anything mainstream,nor did i ever even once call them a lesser.To put words in someone else's mouth is not right.If you are not clear on what i meant ,that is fine, like i said i am not a walking dictionary with words,but don't form your own agenda to insult someone after complaining about them insulting.
To deem someone else a "lesser" as Mr.Sorvath likes to call it,takes a heck of a lot more than anything related to gaming,so no idea how you went that far over board in making that statement.
I don't want an apology for misunderstanding,i just want you to not make up your own words and put them in my mouth or do it to anyone else either.
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Sometimes I think naughty little elves visit this site and play with the ranking system.
As for me, I like the way this game looks, judging by clips and screenshots, I also like the way it seems to be heading. But it won't even hit my radar until I know more about how pvp will play out in various areas of the game world.
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I'm looking forward to SWTOR and GW2 because I have a good amount of confidence in the deveopment teams to deliver on their promises.
If ArcheAge lives up to its promises and possibilities, then in my book the game would be better than both of those titles. Will it? We can only wait and see.
I had to make myself clear ,because you obviously formed your OWN words and definition to what i was referring to.
Not once did i EVER say people are sheep for following a game or anything mainstream,nor did i ever even once call them a lesser.To put words in someone else's mouth is not right.If you are not clear on what i meant ,that is fine, like i said i am not a walking dictionary with words,but don't form your own agenda to insult someone after complaining about them insulting.
To deem someone else a "lesser" as Mr.Sorvath likes to call it,takes a heck of a lot more than anything related to gaming,so no idea how you went that far over board in making that statement.
I don't want an apology for misunderstanding,i just want you to not make up your own words and put them in my mouth or do it to anyone else either.
Ok not to get into a huge argument but you made a statment. Your words. you might not have meant them as an insult but you did just that.
There is too many sheep i mean people following gw2 and swtor.Both those games make me laugh,i don't have to trial either game,as i have already seen enough to know they are both very weak games.
This statment can be construed as an insult right off the bat. With your explanation I see what you were saying.Without your explanation it comes off as an insult.
I did not put words into your mouth. I took your words at face value.
What you meant to say per your explanation was: "there are so many people who follow guild wars without doing their own research that they turn out to be sheep"
But without that qualifier you essentially make a blanket statement that comes of as insulting.
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I had to make myself clear ,because you obviously formed your OWN words and definition to what i was referring to.
Not once did i EVER say people are sheep for following a game or anything mainstream,nor did i ever even once call them a lesser.To put words in someone else's mouth is not right.If you are not clear on what i meant ,that is fine, like i said i am not a walking dictionary with words,but don't form your own agenda to insult someone after complaining about them insulting.
To deem someone else a "lesser" as Mr.Sorvath likes to call it,takes a heck of a lot more than anything related to gaming,so no idea how you went that far over board in making that statement.
I don't want an apology for misunderstanding,i just want you to not make up your own words and put them in my mouth or do it to anyone else either.
Ok not to get into a huge argument but you made a statment. Your words. you might not have meant them as an insult but you did just that.
There is too many sheep i mean people following gw2 and swtor.Both those games make me laugh,i don't have to trial either game,as i have already seen enough to know they are both very weak games.
This statment can be construed as an insult right off the bat. With your explanation I see what you were saying.Without your explanation it comes off as an insult.
I did not put words into your mouth. I took your words at face value.
What you meant to say per your explanation was: "there are so many people who follow guild wars without doing their own research that they turn out to be sheep"
But without that qualifier you essentially make a blanket statement that comes of as insulting.
He knew exactly what he was saying; he just doesn't like being called out on it. He doesn't like being challenged so he's trying back track and make it look like you're insulting him for daring to call him out on calling people sheep. He just likes to pretend in his fantasy world that he's better than everyone else. It's amusing watching him try to point it back at you.
Go up to a person (a friend, family or someone at work) call them a sheep and tell me if they take it as an insult.
AA has dropped in the ranking for one reason....the GW2 fanboys.
every single game on the list has gone down over 10 points at the minimum with GW2 actually gaining 2 pts at one time this week. now GW2 is back down to the 8.73 it was when the fanboys made their assault on every other game.
AA itself has dropped over .25 pts with ZERO info coming out about it. nothing bad, nothing good. AA was the only game to make a semi rebound from the GW2 assault as it climbed back up a few points before being hammered to death the last few days.
speaks volumes(atleast to me) as to what the GW2 community will be like
and this assault the past 2 weeks is not the first time the GW2 tards have done this
You got us.
lol srsly tho haven't you ever noticed how GW2 ppl don't really care to the point where they would criticize another game. They usually spend all their time doing their own thing: worshipping GW2.
If anything, it would be SWTOR ppl who are assaulting other games out of frustration with the several negative previews out there.
Or any other game's fanboys who are frustrated about their own game. I mean that is the main reason to "assault" another game, right?
Why bother giving another game a bad rating when you know that your favorite game is already in the top and probably will stay there?
As for AA... It was probably due to lack of info.
Actually, the complete opposite happerns. GW2 people invade every thread about every game and talk about how "X game doesn't look interesting/will be a grind/is just a generic themepark, I'm waiting for GW2." You can even find a few such posts in this very thread. GW2 fans aren't content with simply enjoying their own game, they have to manipulate the hype meter, invade the boards for other games, and act smug while doing so.
That's why the hype for AA went down, that's why the hype for all the games on the list is less than 8 while GW2 is far over 8. It's manipulation by a weird game evangelist community.
Archage sure looks good on paper. But one of the biggest downer's for me is... It's a Korean game and I personaly have not been able to enjoy any Far Eastern MMO's yet.
You know, that Eastern made game that was supposed to come over the the US and make us realize how bad our games were and change the face of the MMORPG market forever!
Just like Tera and countless others.
I'm still waiting...
You know what IS funny?
How every Eastern MMO to make it to the US has been pretty much exactly the same thing - linear grind fests overly focused on unbalanced PvP (ganking/griefing) and ridiculous gear/level grinds with "flashy" anime graphics and weapons/armor that are way, way too big for no reason what so ever...
What happened to ArcheAge?
Same thing that happens to every Eastern MMO that the crazy hype fans tell us is going to change everything and be totally super amazing...
Yes. The entire GW2 community has collaborated to dehype AA down the list while other games have changed little in position. That's just absurd.
Absurd? I'm a member of the GW2 fanboi board for hype manipulation and thread invasion - and we're doing a great job, if i may say so.
Looking at the amout of votes, there wasn't a significant change, but the ratings for most games dropped regardless. So, obviously, we collaborated with mmorpg.com to have them change the hype algorithm itself, which proved much more effective then primitive downvoting. It was decicided that AA should drop off the hype list, because compared to the shining beacon of innovation and progress that is GW2, AA is obviously just another WoW-clone.
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You guys need to stop worrying about the hypes of any game on here. Go look how many people are actually hyping it. A very small amount. Hype here means nada.
It has nothing to do with Archeage, it's a manipulation of the ratings system to allow TOR the #2 spot. GW2 is still the same but the rest of the games are in the same order just have a far lower score. For months Archeage had been between 8.2-8.5 (#2) with The Secret World around 8.0-8.1(#3). Suddenly they both drop to their current levels and *gasp* TOR is now #2.
Just not worth my time anymore.
nothing to do with TOR either. its all GW2 people. TOR has dropped a ton as well. TOR, AA, Firefall, tera and TSW were all over 8. now none of them are. the reason why TOR has stayed higher than the others is because it has so many more positive ratings so the GW2 negative bombardment doesnt affect is as much.
TOR has still dropped .30 points. AA .40-.50. TOR has 4000 votes. AA 670.
this is a GW2 ploy. nothing more.
EVERY other game has gone done by atleast .30. while GW2 has gone up
lol a lot of fuss about a hype ratio ... something which is virtual in a virtual world
i'll say one thing: although i'm in survival mode financially this is the one game which makes me think about a payed subscribtion nevertheless (in case it's not f2p with or without cash shop). how's that for 'hype'?
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Same. Concept sounds great, videos I've seen looked good. Not sure what the holdup is other than it's not done and taking much longer than what I'd expect.
I hope it doesn't work out to be one of those 75% finished games that looks good and cancels before release.
Asian mmo's...ugh.
Stil have a very bad taste in my mouth from it, still bleeding eyes from the endless farming of the same mobs.
One asian mmo might break that bubble of endless boring grinding but i dont know if AA will do that, we can hope tough.
In the meantime GW2 will bring fresh wind in the rotten lands of mmo's.
Its fantasy mmo #123890 but its all we get till something realy diffrent like a (Eve) mmo comes along wich plays just totaly diffrent.
An mmo made to be hard with political systems and alliances with huge wars battling out on 1 big server.
That is something iam waiting for, but it might not happen in my lifetime :P
Reason is the copy and paste structures of mmo desingers who dont dare to take a step in the unknown.
Saying GW2 is being a sheep and then waiting for Archage is kinda stupid thing to say when GW2 will break almost any traditional rule in the mmo market.
While AA might seem awesoem in many regards its to soon to get any decent verdict on that matter as so much can change in development.
GW2
Archage
Realy hope those 2 can live up to its expectations and be all that we ask for a awesome mmo to play, but still Asian mmo's fail harder then western mmo's when it comes to diversity etc etc..
Time will tell tough.
I think AA will just try to break the bubble of endless grinding, as you will probably be able to lvl by crafting also, and other activities. I want it to certainly break the bubble of endless and pointless questing, which is as boring as endless grinding. Keep quests on necessary level, i.e. for aquiring mount or pet, for learing a crafting, or gathering ability, something that will have some meaning.
I totally agree with the one server concept you describe. It will be awesome. This will make politics work perfectly and we will at last get PvP with meaning (territory/castle control), and not the silly pointless instanced PvP battlegrounds, which are an excuse of PvP.
The "copy/paste" mmo mechanics you refer to, is the big mistake of mmo developers in the post-WoW era. They didn't get that WoW had this kind of success mainly because of its well established brand and storyline, and secondly because it introduced the "themepark" characteristics it has. So, everyone who followed just copied the themeparkish mechanics bringing nothing new actually, and lacking any "brand"...they of course failed.
That's why I have put my hopes on Asian developers rather than Western. Western ones can't get better/different than WoW. I don't know why, I can't explain it, but somehow WoW defined the way of doing things for the Western developers, and they are not willing to leave that path, despite the never-ending failures, for nearly 10 years now.
Now, the "brand" issue will guarantee the success of SWTOR, given that its mechanics can guarantee that it's funny and not frustrating playing SWTOR. That's why they followed the easy "themeparkish" way, they surely feel it can guarantee this minimum requirement, thus ensure the success. It was the easy way to go. But it is bringing nothing new.
You got us.
lol srsly tho haven't you ever noticed how GW2 ppl don't really care to the point where they would criticize another game. They usually spend all their time doing their own thing: worshipping GW2.
If anything, it would be SWTOR ppl who are assaulting other games out of frustration with the several negative previews out there.
Or any other game's fanboys who are frustrated about their own game. I mean that is the main reason to "assault" another game, right?
Why bother giving another game a bad rating when you know that your favorite game is already in the top and probably will stay there?
As for AA... It was probably due to lack of info.
The game won't be release till late Summer to Fall next year for NA and Europe, for now Korea get's to play with it, while we just wait.
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You obviously haven't spent any time in the SWTOR forums watching GW2 fanbois whine and cry like little girls.
Where did i say anyonme was not allowed to embrace something i don't like?Twisting words around to insult hmm nice..NOT.
Where did i say that statement coudln't go both ways?That is YOU saying that NOT me.
Where did i say or use the term "lesser" and relate it to "mainstream" ?
You did a butcher job of trying to insult me,exactly what you were telling me not to do.
Maybe a follower is not the best of words,i am not a walking dictionary..sorry.What i was describing is those and there are MANY that compliment a game based on OTHERS opinions.Example posting articles that have been written by ONE person or voted on by maybe 5/6 people.That does not a game make,so would that not be a follower?Also there is a LOT of people caliming to buy those two hyped games based on ONLY hype without ever playing it .I think i am allowed to have the opinion that they are buying these games based on follwoing hype..therefore a follower.
That DOES NOT mean i a am calling them a "lesser".To make a purchase without even trying the game,means what?What would Mr.Sorvath say they are using to deem the games worthy of a purchase?I said following hype,it's an opinion,it is allowed.
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Do you really lose that much sleep over games that dont interest you?
Western games are just as much of a grind,heck any game thats mechanics a person doesnt like is a grind to them but those very same mechanics enjoyed by a different person is not.I really wish people would stop trying to insinuate that asian games are the only ones that are a grind its getting old.
I was commenting more on you calling people sheep for following a game. Just because many people follow a game doesn't make them sheep.
I don't think people who like games like GW2 or SWToR or even WoW are sheep.
Calling someone a sheep is a derogatory term.
I'm not trying to insult you that was "you" taking it as such. I did however infer that you were calling them sheep because they were games that you didn't like After all, you did say "both those games make me laugh". That implies that you think less of them. Unless you are implying that they make you all fun and giggly inside. I doubt that.
You called the games weak and that means "lesser" to me. They are insubantial, not capable of fulfiling what they set out to do. Not strong in what they set out to do. Weak.
However, this makes more sense and at least better explains your position:
Maybe a follower is not the best of words,i am not a walking dictionary..sorry.What i was describing is those and there are MANY that compliment a game based on OTHERS opinions.Example posting articles that have been written by ONE person or voted on by maybe 5/6 people.That does not a game make,so would that not be a follower?Also there is a LOT of people caliming to buy those two hyped games based on ONLY hype without ever playing it .I think i am allowed to have the opinion that they are buying these games based on follwoing hype..therefore a follower.
Calling someone a sheep for following a game that you have deemed weak would be considered an insult as it implies that you have set the bar, deemed it "lesser" and therfore they are docile followers. And that's why I posted that.
The above yellow is not what you said in your first post and I would have actually agreed to the yellow part.
So as you have made yourself clear so I hope I have made my post more clear. Apologies if you think that I insulted you but that wasn't my intent.
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I had to make myself clear ,because you obviously formed your OWN words and definition to what i was referring to.
Not once did i EVER say people are sheep for following a game or anything mainstream,nor did i ever even once call them a lesser.To put words in someone else's mouth is not right.If you are not clear on what i meant ,that is fine, like i said i am not a walking dictionary with words,but don't form your own agenda to insult someone after complaining about them insulting.
To deem someone else a "lesser" as Mr.Sorvath likes to call it,takes a heck of a lot more than anything related to gaming,so no idea how you went that far over board in making that statement.
I don't want an apology for misunderstanding,i just want you to not make up your own words and put them in my mouth or do it to anyone else either.
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Sometimes I think naughty little elves visit this site and play with the ranking system.
As for me, I like the way this game looks, judging by clips and screenshots, I also like the way it seems to be heading. But it won't even hit my radar until I know more about how pvp will play out in various areas of the game world.
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I'm looking forward to SWTOR and GW2 because I have a good amount of confidence in the deveopment teams to deliver on their promises.
If ArcheAge lives up to its promises and possibilities, then in my book the game would be better than both of those titles. Will it? We can only wait and see.
Ok not to get into a huge argument but you made a statment. Your words. you might not have meant them as an insult but you did just that.
There is too many sheep i mean people following gw2 and swtor.Both those games make me laugh,i don't have to trial either game,as i have already seen enough to know they are both very weak games.
This statment can be construed as an insult right off the bat. With your explanation I see what you were saying.Without your explanation it comes off as an insult.
I did not put words into your mouth. I took your words at face value.
What you meant to say per your explanation was: "there are so many people who follow guild wars without doing their own research that they turn out to be sheep"
But without that qualifier you essentially make a blanket statement that comes of as insulting.
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He knew exactly what he was saying; he just doesn't like being called out on it. He doesn't like being challenged so he's trying back track and make it look like you're insulting him for daring to call him out on calling people sheep. He just likes to pretend in his fantasy world that he's better than everyone else. It's amusing watching him try to point it back at you.
Go up to a person (a friend, family or someone at work) call them a sheep and tell me if they take it as an insult.
Actually, the complete opposite happerns. GW2 people invade every thread about every game and talk about how "X game doesn't look interesting/will be a grind/is just a generic themepark, I'm waiting for GW2." You can even find a few such posts in this very thread. GW2 fans aren't content with simply enjoying their own game, they have to manipulate the hype meter, invade the boards for other games, and act smug while doing so.
That's why the hype for AA went down, that's why the hype for all the games on the list is less than 8 while GW2 is far over 8. It's manipulation by a weird game evangelist community.
Wha... Arche Age isn't even in the top 7 anymore. No idea why.
Archage sure looks good on paper. But one of the biggest downer's for me is... It's a Korean game and I personaly have not been able to enjoy any Far Eastern MMO's yet.
Hopefully this can change
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It smells like Aion to me.
You know, that Eastern made game that was supposed to come over the the US and make us realize how bad our games were and change the face of the MMORPG market forever!
Just like Tera and countless others.
I'm still waiting...
You know what IS funny?
How every Eastern MMO to make it to the US has been pretty much exactly the same thing - linear grind fests overly focused on unbalanced PvP (ganking/griefing) and ridiculous gear/level grinds with "flashy" anime graphics and weapons/armor that are way, way too big for no reason what so ever...
What happened to ArcheAge?
Same thing that happens to every Eastern MMO that the crazy hype fans tell us is going to change everything and be totally super amazing...
Yes. The entire GW2 community has collaborated to dehype AA down the list while other games have changed little in position. That's just absurd.
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Absurd? I'm a member of the GW2 fanboi board for hype manipulation and thread invasion - and we're doing a great job, if i may say so.
Looking at the amout of votes, there wasn't a significant change, but the ratings for most games dropped regardless. So, obviously, we collaborated with mmorpg.com to have them change the hype algorithm itself, which proved much more effective then primitive downvoting. It was decicided that AA should drop off the hype list, because compared to the shining beacon of innovation and progress that is GW2, AA is obviously just another WoW-clone.
Hype train -> Reality