I have to agree with the OP. I have tried to get into this game 4 times and it fails to grab me every time. Boring, repetitive Lore-soaked wow clone that does nothing for me.
I played it in beta until release: Bored.
I played it about a year in, had a friend with an endgame char that was willing to help me out: Nope, bored.
Tried it again when it went to F2P: really bored and aggravated.
Downloaded it one last time recently pre-format and logged in to see if I could complete this one quest. I followed the stupid arrow to no where and the NPC was gone. I laughed and logged and formatted my computer.
LOTRO to me is like a hot blonde bombshell with no brain.
I am still trying to get past level 40, and I have been "there" since it's release (suos on & off). The combat is some of the worst I ever played in any MMO.
Yeah, it most certainly can be boring. Even while simultaneously having a certain charm. I've been playing off and on for years now, had a lifetime membership which is now converted to a perma-vip, and my highest lvl achieved is 42. One thing that I have found that helps me, though, is to turn of the sleep inducing music. I won't say it's not pretty... I'm honestly not sure anymore as I've had it turned off for so long, and when it was on I was snoozing within a matter of moments. So turn off the game music, kick up some nice rock music in the background and try it that way. I've also found that much of the soundtrack from the movies is very inspirational and can keep your blood pumping, even while waiting the year or so it takes to craft.
One thing that keeps pulling me back is my love for the movies. Yes, the movies, not the books, the last time I picked up one of the books was decades ago and I had to put it down because of its long-winded style. But the movies always get me ramped up to visit middle earth.
Also, don't be afraid to take breaks. I'm usually playing two or three other games on the side, so if I get to incredibly bored, I hop over to another world.
So, boring it may be, but I have come to appreciate the significant amount of lore put into the game and I keep coming back to discover more. It's not a bad game. Just a bit slower paced, more casual than most of the others.
Get several quests, go kill some mobs, then come back, get another quest and proceed to next quest hub.
You could cut and paste this into 99.9% of the game sub forums on this site and it would fit.
I don't see how any of those other games are any better than Lotro. Atleast lotro attempts to have an epic storyline thats somewhat interesting through out your adventure.
This is my sad story with this MMORPG, just in case anyone is interested (I'm looking at you, young gamer thinking about purchasing bits of "F2P" content...)
I have a lifetime subscription, purchased with Codemasters (oh Lord, yes, them...) since I live and play in Europe. With this kind of subscription, I tried many many times to play the game, I levelled a Loremaster to max level (the max level previous to Moria), but I never got "into" the game. The problem is.... I find the game incredibly dull and boring.
I don't know what the real problem is, maybe the design of the toons (they look like puppets), the appalling animations, the slow combat, the dull grind of meaningless quests... All this and probably one more thing: you never have the feeling you are actually inside the world of the Lord of the Rings. Before Moria you only had a few regions to visit (very nice landscape, true); it took ages to have an expansion, and then we got Moria... Very beautiful place to visit for one day, maybe 2, but then it gets frustrating, you get lost every now and then, it's always dark and claustrophobic, not my cup of tea. You had the terrifying "radiance" system, that was a killer for many "non-hardcore players" such as I am. Then you waited for the other "expansions": even calling them this way is not just an euphemism, it's telling lies....
The F2P conversion revealed the true nature of Turbine: naturally all gaming companies are there to make profit, but Turbine is absolutely greedy (although it's a tough competition between Turbine and Funcom). Now we have the mess with Isengard (disgraceful patching, Turbine points polemics, etc etc). The story progression is so slow that by this pace we'll probably get to Mordor in 10 more years of dull gaming and patching.
Of course you'll tell me it's my problem, true: I just wanted to share my experience with people who haven't tried the game yet, and maybe share it with other unlucky gamers who made the bad choice to purchase a lifetime subscription.
I played it about a year in, had a friend with an endgame char that was willing to help me out: Nope, bored.
You answer your own question really.
I understand that some MMO's like Wow are far more solo friendly, but the books on lord of the rings spawned the original concept of dungeons and dragons whos entire principle is based on a GROUP of adventurers and how by working together the overcome challenges.
You find lotro boring because its less solo friendly, you probably have to skip most of the good parts simply because you dont have a team, or attempt them with PUG's.
I play a lot of game which are far more boring, Like Eve.. but they do become incredibly addictive when in a successfull and well organised guild/corp
I played it about a year in, had a friend with an endgame char that was willing to help me out: Nope, bored.
You answer your own question really.
I understand that some MMO's like Wow are far more solo friendly, but the books on lord of the rings spawned the original concept of dungeons and dragons whos entire principle is based on a GROUP of adventurers and how by working together the overcome challenges.
You find lotro boring because its less solo friendly, you probably have to skip most of the good parts simply because you dont have a team, or attempt them with PUG's.
I play a lot of game which are far more boring, Like Eve.. but they do become incredibly addictive when in a successfull and well organised guild/corp
Lotro is nowadays a very solo-oriented game. Epic class traits: soloable. The whole book I: soloable. Fastest leveling: solo. Fastest farming: solo. Overland group areas published in the last 3 years: zero. Group dungeons expected on the first release of next expansion: zero. Group dungeons released on last expansion: 4, only one of them 6-man, the other 3 3-man, one of them beeing as ridiculous as a single room. Fastest way to get skirmish points: solo skirmish. All the old lvl 50 dungeons have been rescaled to the new level cap becouse the amount of group content was alarmingly low. Soloable crafted gear with better stats than raid gear: check. Amount of group areas nerfed down from group areas to solo or small group: endless, examples are GA, IB, northern TS, Agamaur... Helegrod scaled down in group size.
I could go with examples for really long, but I bet you got my point by now. Lotro is actually a very solo-oriented game now, regardless what it was in the past. I was raid leader in a very friendly yet efficient raiding guild. All of us were group-oriented players who raided around 4 nights a week. All of us left, one of the main reasons beeing that the game was becoming a solo-fest. A boring solo-fest.
Yes it is boring. I tried this one more time, just because I wanted a game with housing and lots of crafting and the community is pretty good, but leveling is the most boring, slow, pointless, grindy, frustrating, stupid, dull, way too easy, way too repetitive, way too much time spent running back and forth to quest givers that I have ever experienced. And I experienced Perfect World, so that's really saying something.
I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
Everyone that's complaining sounds like solo players...
ALL MMOS played by yourself are boring. So you have to find something else to complain about. I kind of feel sorry for players who don't have a community to belong to.
Maybe you guys should form a clan together? "We're a pack of lone wolves!"
I used to play MMOs like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
Everyone that's complaining sounds like solo players...
ALL MMOS played by yourself are boring. So you have to find something else to complain about. I kind of feel sorry for players who don't have a community to belong to.
Maybe you guys should form a clan together? "We're a pack of lone wolves!"
There is a limit to how entertaining socializing can make an activity, especially if it's an activity you've spent more than ten years doing.
As I said in another thread, I'm sure game companies would love it to pieces if we'd all keep lapping up their slow, boring quest grinds while entertaining each other, but might as well skip the MMO, save some money, and join a chat room in that case.
I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
I waited a long time for Lotro to come out, only to be completly bored by it.
Didn't find the world compelling at all... I distinctly remember of getting extremely pissed off at some retarded elf who asked me to recover a certain type of leaf, because he was tired of middle earth and was going away, and wanted a memory to take back with him...
{mod edit} go get your damn leaf yourself! I would love to talk with the dev who wrote this particular quest!
The conclusion I have come to is that some quests are just not worth doing.
I play a lot of oblivion and morrowind and in making my characters and sending them out into the world it has come apparent that some quests dont' fit certain characters.
For instance I have an Angelic Character, a Golden Saint and a Dark Knight and Paladin. It just feels that they wouldn't be interested in Jearle getting arrested for stealing gold and his girlfriend having a suspcious connection to it. It seems a bit petty. However, my thief or assassin character might have more of an interest.
This translates over into the mmo world (for me). Some quests just don't fit. Why wold my hero be delivering memos and doing grunt work?
Essentially we as players might consider that if a quest is given to us then it might not be appropriate. Or it migh just be pedantic as hell.
Some of LOTRO's quests are great and some "not so much".
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I'm a lifer and I've somehow reached the point where I'd rather level alts in WOW than level my main in LOTRO. I logged on yesterday, picked up the new epic story quests and bought the quest pack for points. I then logged off and don't really have the motivation to log back in. There isn't exactly a rush to now as the instances won't be available until December and I'm not spending 1250 points for the dragon raid.
I've always hated LOTRO instances and combat. It's slow and the dungeon art is horrendous. Everything is always a blur of gray,brown and black. Nothing stands out.
It's become a tedious, boring game to me but as a lifetimer I'll come back to it when burned out on other games. Turbine has taken my favorite fictional universe and somehow made it boring. Good job Turbine.
There are some games that are fun to level in for me and then there are games like LOTRO and AoC that are just totally soul killing.
I had a similar experience in Lotro. But I could pinpoint it easily: I always play on pvp servers and am used to the added danger of enemy players out in the open world. This adds a whole lot of extra excitement and unpredictability to doing boring things out in the open world.
This feeling was totally lacking for me in Lotro and I ended up unsubbing after a few months because of it. Even though I LOVED the environmental immersion, RP viability, polish and graphics.
(On a sidenote: That experience is what my main concern for GW2 is based on; it will be very similar to Lotro in that pvp is always restricted to dedicated areas and never in the main game world).
Tolkien is a boring author. I can read any other books without falling asleep but Tolkien knocks me out in a few minutes. So no surprise that the game is also boring. I guess it comes with the generation where wizards are fast paced, young, and highly active like Harry Potter compare to a slow moving old wizard like Gandalf.
Other than that, Turbine is not a very good company. I won't play their game even if they pay me to do so.
I waited a long time for Lotro to come out, only to be completly bored by it.
Didn't find the world compelling at all... I distinctly remember of getting extremely pissed off at some retarded elf who asked me to recover a certain type of leaf, because he was tired of middle earth and was going away, and wanted a memory to take back with him...
{mod edit} go get your damn leaf yourself! I would love to talk with the dev who wrote this particular quest!
The conclusion I have come to is that some quests are just not worth doing.
I play a lot of oblivion and morrowind and in making my characters and sending them out into the world it has come apparent that some quests dont' fit certain characters.
For instance I have an Angelic Character, a Golden Saint and a Dark Knight and Paladin. It just feels that they wouldn't be interested in Jearle getting arrested for stealing gold and his girlfriend having a suspcious connection to it. It seems a bit petty. However, my thief or assassin character might have more of an interest.
This translates over into the mmo world (for me). Some quests just don't fit. Why wold my hero be delivering memos and doing grunt work?
Essentially we as players might consider that if a quest is given to us then it might not be appropriate. Or it migh just be pedantic as hell.
Some of LOTRO's quests are great and some "not so much".
This is a good post pointing out how quests are really a horrible name for many of those tasks.
Fedex and kill X boars should be jobs that earn you money. Quests should be important story, mood/tone setting or class/character progression. Quests should be long and involved as a heros journey (ala writing narrative).
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I was all hyped to get my first mount in this game a few years back, I had the picture in my head, me just chilling in middle earth with my horse by my side as we strode across the land. The minute after getting the mount made me uninstall the game.
How can a horse jump like that? it breaks all immersion. (I'm not even kidding)
The combat and quests we're a little plain but I thought the mounts look so realistic, they'll make up for it together with cool gear or something.. but no..
Also, the system that gives stat like things in exchange for grinding is rubbish imo. (not sure what its called)
Anyway other than that, I really liked the atmosphere of the shire, perhaps I should come around and check if its better now
"You resist. You cling to your life as if it actually matters. You will learn."
I think I'm going to give this one last try by rolling up a Champ (supposed to level fast, anyway), avoiding all quests after the starter area that don't involve either crafting or whatever that main storyline seems to be, and just grinding mobs and wandering around exploring. Maybe then it won't seem like a chore list instead of entertainment. If that doesn't work, beh, guess I'm just counting the days until either GW2 or TSW releases.
I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
Everyone that's complaining sounds like solo players...
ALL MMOS played by yourself are boring. So you have to find something else to complain about. I kind of feel sorry for players who don't have a community to belong to.
Maybe you guys should form a clan together? "We're a pack of lone wolves!"
There is a limit to how entertaining socializing can make an activity, especially if it's an activity you've spent more than ten years doing.
As I said in another thread, I'm sure game companies would love it to pieces if we'd all keep lapping up their slow, boring quest grinds while entertaining each other, but might as well skip the MMO, save some money, and join a chat room in that case.
Socializing has zilch to do with my point actually.
The way the combat is designed, down time, and the way the content fights back with a lot of debuffs; the game speeds up considerably when played with a small group. I have two people who log on with me regularly to play most games and for LotRO I just can't even ponder how any of these "well thought out" critiques of the game could hold water.
I usually hate questing games, but for LotRO the hubs don't seem to have nearly as much back and forth as WoW or RIFT and each part of the zone is interesting to move on to and explore.
The only difference I see is that I have others to game with and while I've not progressed through this game at a blazing speed I've not felt slowed down by the game.
I used to play MMOs like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
I tried several times to play LOTRO, and when i say several, it's at least 5 times. Each time i stopped playing around 20 out of boredom. 1-20 is fun then after that it,s slows to a crawl and all the quest you have involved running a lot and killing 10, 15 or 20 mobs or gathering 10, 15 or 20 items that drop once every 5 kills.
I think I'm going to give this one last try by rolling up a Champ (supposed to level fast, anyway), avoiding all quests after the starter area that don't involve either crafting or whatever that main storyline seems to be, and just grinding mobs and wandering around exploring. Maybe then it won't seem like a chore list instead of entertainment. If that doesn't work, beh, guess I'm just counting the days until either GW2 or TSW releases.
Honestly, it's probably not going to work for you While Champs ARE a lot of fun - the game really IS better when grouped or 'kinned' Grinding mobs really isn't a great way to level - trust me, you won't get to 20 before it becomes the chore you're dreading.
The plus is of course, that you can wander around and do it completely free (and although you don't like 'hubs' - I'd recommend doing the starter zones anyways as it comes to 200+ easy TP's and you can breeze through it)
Good luck in finding a game that grabs you though - even if it's not this one. Keep looking if this doesn't work, it's out there I'm sure !
ive played it for 4 years and up this date its the same exact thing. Whati have to laugh about is how they remesh old areas togethee and call them new areas. How people except this as new "areas" is just lolz
My biggest gripe is the pvp
They flat out led 2 times in a row now about that new map. The only development in 4 years has been pve outposts and a tree with a bird.
still have a bug where warleaders become invincable
still have people going into rez points killing people
still have skill lock
lag is worse then before (yes all mmo's have lag)
My kin has left the game just waiting for swtor myself.
Ive played other mmo's and while it is true most get boring after awhile most mmo's 4 years in have a lot more then lotro does.
4 years in we should have had a lot more by now and ffs we should be past isen in the first 2 years alone. At the rate there going our grandkids will see mordor before we do thats if lotro still exists thanks to the lvl 5's in bree rp'ng
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Its not the game thats boring its the guild your in thats boring.
I have to agree with the OP. I have tried to get into this game 4 times and it fails to grab me every time. Boring, repetitive Lore-soaked wow clone that does nothing for me.
I played it in beta until release: Bored.
I played it about a year in, had a friend with an endgame char that was willing to help me out: Nope, bored.
Tried it again when it went to F2P: really bored and aggravated.
Downloaded it one last time recently pre-format and logged in to see if I could complete this one quest. I followed the stupid arrow to no where and the NPC was gone. I laughed and logged and formatted my computer.
What? Fifth time is the charm?
LOTRO to me is like a hot blonde bombshell with no brain.
I am still trying to get past level 40, and I have been "there" since it's release (suos on & off). The combat is some of the worst I ever played in any MMO.
Make us care MORE about our faction & world pvp!
Yeah, it most certainly can be boring. Even while simultaneously having a certain charm. I've been playing off and on for years now, had a lifetime membership which is now converted to a perma-vip, and my highest lvl achieved is 42. One thing that I have found that helps me, though, is to turn of the sleep inducing music. I won't say it's not pretty... I'm honestly not sure anymore as I've had it turned off for so long, and when it was on I was snoozing within a matter of moments. So turn off the game music, kick up some nice rock music in the background and try it that way. I've also found that much of the soundtrack from the movies is very inspirational and can keep your blood pumping, even while waiting the year or so it takes to craft.
One thing that keeps pulling me back is my love for the movies. Yes, the movies, not the books, the last time I picked up one of the books was decades ago and I had to put it down because of its long-winded style. But the movies always get me ramped up to visit middle earth.
Also, don't be afraid to take breaks. I'm usually playing two or three other games on the side, so if I get to incredibly bored, I hop over to another world.
So, boring it may be, but I have come to appreciate the significant amount of lore put into the game and I keep coming back to discover more. It's not a bad game. Just a bit slower paced, more casual than most of the others.
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You could cut and paste this into 99.9% of the game sub forums on this site and it would fit.
I don't see how any of those other games are any better than Lotro. Atleast lotro attempts to have an epic storyline thats somewhat interesting through out your adventure.
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This thread....... is boring.
You answer your own question really.
I understand that some MMO's like Wow are far more solo friendly, but the books on lord of the rings spawned the original concept of dungeons and dragons whos entire principle is based on a GROUP of adventurers and how by working together the overcome challenges.
You find lotro boring because its less solo friendly, you probably have to skip most of the good parts simply because you dont have a team, or attempt them with PUG's.
I play a lot of game which are far more boring, Like Eve.. but they do become incredibly addictive when in a successfull and well organised guild/corp
Lotro is nowadays a very solo-oriented game. Epic class traits: soloable. The whole book I: soloable. Fastest leveling: solo. Fastest farming: solo. Overland group areas published in the last 3 years: zero. Group dungeons expected on the first release of next expansion: zero. Group dungeons released on last expansion: 4, only one of them 6-man, the other 3 3-man, one of them beeing as ridiculous as a single room. Fastest way to get skirmish points: solo skirmish. All the old lvl 50 dungeons have been rescaled to the new level cap becouse the amount of group content was alarmingly low. Soloable crafted gear with better stats than raid gear: check. Amount of group areas nerfed down from group areas to solo or small group: endless, examples are GA, IB, northern TS, Agamaur... Helegrod scaled down in group size.
I could go with examples for really long, but I bet you got my point by now. Lotro is actually a very solo-oriented game now, regardless what it was in the past. I was raid leader in a very friendly yet efficient raiding guild. All of us were group-oriented players who raided around 4 nights a week. All of us left, one of the main reasons beeing that the game was becoming a solo-fest. A boring solo-fest.
Yes it is boring. I tried this one more time, just because I wanted a game with housing and lots of crafting and the community is pretty good, but leveling is the most boring, slow, pointless, grindy, frustrating, stupid, dull, way too easy, way too repetitive, way too much time spent running back and forth to quest givers that I have ever experienced. And I experienced Perfect World, so that's really saying something.
I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
~Albert Einstein
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Everyone that's complaining sounds like solo players...
ALL MMOS played by yourself are boring. So you have to find something else to complain about. I kind of feel sorry for players who don't have a community to belong to.
Maybe you guys should form a clan together? "We're a pack of lone wolves!"
I used to play MMOs like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
There is a limit to how entertaining socializing can make an activity, especially if it's an activity you've spent more than ten years doing.
As I said in another thread, I'm sure game companies would love it to pieces if we'd all keep lapping up their slow, boring quest grinds while entertaining each other, but might as well skip the MMO, save some money, and join a chat room in that case.
I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
~Albert Einstein
The conclusion I have come to is that some quests are just not worth doing.
I play a lot of oblivion and morrowind and in making my characters and sending them out into the world it has come apparent that some quests dont' fit certain characters.
For instance I have an Angelic Character, a Golden Saint and a Dark Knight and Paladin. It just feels that they wouldn't be interested in Jearle getting arrested for stealing gold and his girlfriend having a suspcious connection to it. It seems a bit petty. However, my thief or assassin character might have more of an interest.
This translates over into the mmo world (for me). Some quests just don't fit. Why wold my hero be delivering memos and doing grunt work?
Essentially we as players might consider that if a quest is given to us then it might not be appropriate. Or it migh just be pedantic as hell.
Some of LOTRO's quests are great and some "not so much".
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I'm a lifer and I've somehow reached the point where I'd rather level alts in WOW than level my main in LOTRO. I logged on yesterday, picked up the new epic story quests and bought the quest pack for points. I then logged off and don't really have the motivation to log back in. There isn't exactly a rush to now as the instances won't be available until December and I'm not spending 1250 points for the dragon raid.
I've always hated LOTRO instances and combat. It's slow and the dungeon art is horrendous. Everything is always a blur of gray,brown and black. Nothing stands out.
It's become a tedious, boring game to me but as a lifetimer I'll come back to it when burned out on other games. Turbine has taken my favorite fictional universe and somehow made it boring. Good job Turbine.
There are some games that are fun to level in for me and then there are games like LOTRO and AoC that are just totally soul killing.
I had a similar experience in Lotro. But I could pinpoint it easily: I always play on pvp servers and am used to the added danger of enemy players out in the open world. This adds a whole lot of extra excitement and unpredictability to doing boring things out in the open world.
This feeling was totally lacking for me in Lotro and I ended up unsubbing after a few months because of it. Even though I LOVED the environmental immersion, RP viability, polish and graphics.
(On a sidenote: That experience is what my main concern for GW2 is based on; it will be very similar to Lotro in that pvp is always restricted to dedicated areas and never in the main game world).
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Tolkien is a boring author. I can read any other books without falling asleep but Tolkien knocks me out in a few minutes. So no surprise that the game is also boring. I guess it comes with the generation where wizards are fast paced, young, and highly active like Harry Potter compare to a slow moving old wizard like Gandalf.
Other than that, Turbine is not a very good company. I won't play their game even if they pay me to do so.
Ready for GW2!!!
This is a good post pointing out how quests are really a horrible name for many of those tasks.
Fedex and kill X boars should be jobs that earn you money. Quests should be important story, mood/tone setting or class/character progression. Quests should be long and involved as a heros journey (ala writing narrative).
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FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"
I was all hyped to get my first mount in this game a few years back, I had the picture in my head, me just chilling in middle earth with my horse by my side as we strode across the land. The minute after getting the mount made me uninstall the game.
How can a horse jump like that? it breaks all immersion. (I'm not even kidding)
The combat and quests we're a little plain but I thought the mounts look so realistic, they'll make up for it together with cool gear or something.. but no..
Also, the system that gives stat like things in exchange for grinding is rubbish imo. (not sure what its called)
Anyway other than that, I really liked the atmosphere of the shire, perhaps I should come around and check if its better now
"You resist. You cling to your life as if it actually matters. You will learn."
I think I'm going to give this one last try by rolling up a Champ (supposed to level fast, anyway), avoiding all quests after the starter area that don't involve either crafting or whatever that main storyline seems to be, and just grinding mobs and wandering around exploring. Maybe then it won't seem like a chore list instead of entertainment. If that doesn't work, beh, guess I'm just counting the days until either GW2 or TSW releases.
I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
~Albert Einstein
Socializing has zilch to do with my point actually.
The way the combat is designed, down time, and the way the content fights back with a lot of debuffs; the game speeds up considerably when played with a small group. I have two people who log on with me regularly to play most games and for LotRO I just can't even ponder how any of these "well thought out" critiques of the game could hold water.
I usually hate questing games, but for LotRO the hubs don't seem to have nearly as much back and forth as WoW or RIFT and each part of the zone is interesting to move on to and explore.
The only difference I see is that I have others to game with and while I've not progressed through this game at a blazing speed I've not felt slowed down by the game.
I used to play MMOs like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
I tried several times to play LOTRO, and when i say several, it's at least 5 times. Each time i stopped playing around 20 out of boredom. 1-20 is fun then after that it,s slows to a crawl and all the quest you have involved running a lot and killing 10, 15 or 20 mobs or gathering 10, 15 or 20 items that drop once every 5 kills.
Honestly, it's probably not going to work for you
While Champs ARE a lot of fun - the game really IS better when grouped or 'kinned' Grinding mobs really isn't a great way to level - trust me, you won't get to 20 before it becomes the chore you're dreading.
The plus is of course, that you can wander around and do it completely free (and although you don't like 'hubs' - I'd recommend doing the starter zones anyways as it comes to 200+ easy TP's and you can breeze through it)
Good luck in finding a game that grabs you though - even if it's not this one. Keep looking if this doesn't work, it's out there I'm sure
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i am in the position i have nothing else to play
so i had a load of turbine points and opend everythign i could and now i just play the game on and off
the world looks really good and it also feels for me like i am going on a adventure
but the character lack any character
combat is slow (but i macroed up about 9 attacks and click once per fight so at least i dont need to pay attention while fighting)
for myself i havent found anything different between the f2p and the sub model game play wise
and the only difference for myself has been it dosent cost me anything
lotro is providing me with a game to play while im waiting for somthing else but if i had to pay i would probably play minecraft instead
btw i feel sorry for every lifer in the game im so glad i wasnt a lifer
ive played it for 4 years and up this date its the same exact thing. Whati have to laugh about is how they remesh old areas togethee and call them new areas. How people except this as new "areas" is just lolz
My biggest gripe is the pvp
They flat out led 2 times in a row now about that new map. The only development in 4 years has been pve outposts and a tree with a bird.
still have a bug where warleaders become invincable
still have people going into rez points killing people
still have skill lock
lag is worse then before (yes all mmo's have lag)
My kin has left the game just waiting for swtor myself.
Ive played other mmo's and while it is true most get boring after awhile most mmo's 4 years in have a lot more then lotro does.
4 years in we should have had a lot more by now and ffs we should be past isen in the first 2 years alone. At the rate there going our grandkids will see mordor before we do thats if lotro still exists thanks to the lvl 5's in bree rp'ng