Skyrim looks great from the previews. Say what you want about the combat but at least they're going to add a little more complexity with the double wield/double spell mechanic. Also it looks amazing and the dragons will add some unpredictability to the game play.
I just hope the entire world isn't going to be voice acted by the same 5 people again.
has to be Skyrim for me, as its PC available. Dark Souls is a Console game and not on the PC. So no contest really between the 2, if you have a console you will buy DS on it, if you have a PC you will buy Skyrim. If you have both you will more than likely buy both games.
I have my Dark Souls pre ordered. Let me tell you.. As much as I enjoyed Oblivion, I liked Demon's Souls more. I am sure I will prefer Dark Souls over Skyrim, just because of the challenge. I prefer a game I can't play with my eyes closed...
Dark Souls doesn't just have good combat, the enemy and world design are unique unlike Skyrim's generic enemies and world. Further more, Dark Souls has the covenant system (basically a guild system) which effects gameplay by either having you side with a certain fraction so you get allies and don't fight certain enemies (because they're on your side) or giving you powerful spells and abilities. I hear convents even effect the ending and what bosses you face.
Skyrim? You can join all guilds and they have no effect on the story whatsoever. Combine this with Bethesda's mediocre storytelling and atrocious combat mechanics and Dark Souls wins.
Darksouls is linear where skryim is open world. when playing darksouls i feel like im playing a console game whereas skyrim makes you feel you are in a living breathing world, skyrim is better bang for your buck.
Skyrim on PC will be superior in every way and dont forget all the MODS it will get will make game just awesome.
Btw i realy dont understand why OP compare a console game only to a PC game/console, there also both 2 completely different games one is sandbox other themepark lineair console only game with silly gamepad lol.
Dark Souls doesn't just have good combat, the enemy and world design are unique unlike Skyrim's generic enemies and world. Further more, Dark Souls has the covenant system (basically a guild system) which effects gameplay by either having you side with a certain fraction so you get allies and don't fight certain enemies (because they're on your side) or giving you powerful spells and abilities. I hear convents even effect the ending and what bosses you face.
Skyrim? You can join all guilds and they have no effect on the story whatsoever. Combine this with Bethesda's mediocre storytelling and atrocious combat mechanics and Dark Souls wins.
Darksouls is linear where skryim is open world. when playing darksouls i feel like im playing a console game whereas skyrim makes you feel you are in a living breathing world, skyrim is better bang for your buck.
Skyrim on PC will be superior in every way and dont forget all the MODS it will get will make game just awesome.
Btw i realy dont understand why OP compare a console game only to a PC game/console, there also both 2 completely different games one is sandbox other themepark lineair console only game with silly gamepad lol.
Actually, Dark Souls is open ended, much like Skyrim. The difference is, Skyrim is so easy you can walk into just about anywhere and not worry about a thing.
Dark Souls doesn't just have good combat, the enemy and world design are unique unlike Skyrim's generic enemies and world. Further more, Dark Souls has the covenant system (basically a guild system) which effects gameplay by either having you side with a certain fraction so you get allies and don't fight certain enemies (because they're on your side) or giving you powerful spells and abilities. I hear convents even effect the ending and what bosses you face.
Skyrim? You can join all guilds and they have no effect on the story whatsoever. Combine this with Bethesda's mediocre storytelling and atrocious combat mechanics and Dark Souls wins.
Darksouls is linear where skryim is open world. when playing darksouls i feel like im playing a console game whereas skyrim makes you feel you are in a living breathing world, skyrim is better bang for your buck.
Skyrim on PC will be superior in every way and dont forget all the MODS it will get will make game just awesome.
Btw i realy dont understand why OP compare a console game only to a PC game/console, there also both 2 completely different games one is sandbox other themepark lineair console only game with silly gamepad lol.
Actually, Dark Souls is open ended, much like Skyrim. The difference is, Skyrim is so easy you can walk into just about anywhere and not worry about a thing.
Good and valid point because you have played Skyrim ...oh wait you haven't because its final build isn't released yet ( all the current demonstrations at gaming exhibitions is not the final product ). Amazing the so called " informed " comments you get from people who don't know something
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There is no decision here ,Skyrim on PC wins hand down .Install some Mods to enhance the game and you will have a true immersive RPG experience . But as mentioned its silly to compare a PC version of a game to a console game ,the PC is vastly superior
Dark Souls doesn't just have good combat, the enemy and world design are unique unlike Skyrim's generic enemies and world. Further more, Dark Souls has the covenant system (basically a guild system) which effects gameplay by either having you side with a certain fraction so you get allies and don't fight certain enemies (because they're on your side) or giving you powerful spells and abilities. I hear convents even effect the ending and what bosses you face.
Skyrim? You can join all guilds and they have no effect on the story whatsoever. Combine this with Bethesda's mediocre storytelling and atrocious combat mechanics and Dark Souls wins.
Darksouls is linear where skryim is open world. when playing darksouls i feel like im playing a console game whereas skyrim makes you feel you are in a living breathing world, skyrim is better bang for your buck.
Skyrim on PC will be superior in every way and dont forget all the MODS it will get will make game just awesome.
Btw i realy dont understand why OP compare a console game only to a PC game/console, there also both 2 completely different games one is sandbox other themepark lineair console only game with silly gamepad lol.
Actually, Dark Souls is open ended, much like Skyrim. The difference is, Skyrim is so easy you can walk into just about anywhere and not worry about a thing.
Good and valid point because you have played Skyrim ...oh wait you haven't because its final build isn't released yet ( all the current demonstrations at gaming exhibitions is not the final product ). Amazing the so called " informed " comments you get from people who don't know something
@ Op
There is no decision here ,Skyrim on PC wins hand down .Install some Mods to enhance the game and you will have a true immersive RPG experience . But as mentioned its silly to compare a PC version of a game to a console game ,the PC is vastly superior
Okay, let me rephrase that. If it's anything like Oblivion, what so ever, it's so easy you can play it without worry, all the time. However, I based my comments on many editor, and critic comments about Dark Souls not being a game to play if you want to relax, but skyrim is.
Edit: To be clear, I'm getting Skyrim, and Dark Souls. I'm sure Skyrim is amazing on PC like Oblivion was, however, I preferred Demon's Souls over Oblivion on pc. I'm not sure how Dark Souls vs Skyrim will turn out, however, I'm sure both will be fun in their own rights.
Dark Souls doesn't just have good combat, the enemy and world design are unique unlike Skyrim's generic enemies and world. Further more, Dark Souls has the covenant system (basically a guild system) which effects gameplay by either having you side with a certain fraction so you get allies and don't fight certain enemies (because they're on your side) or giving you powerful spells and abilities. I hear convents even effect the ending and what bosses you face.
Skyrim? You can join all guilds and they have no effect on the story whatsoever. Combine this with Bethesda's mediocre storytelling and atrocious combat mechanics and Dark Souls wins.
Darksouls is linear where skryim is open world. when playing darksouls i feel like im playing a console game whereas skyrim makes you feel you are in a living breathing world, skyrim is better bang for your buck.
Skyrim on PC will be superior in every way and dont forget all the MODS it will get will make game just awesome.
Btw i realy dont understand why OP compare a console game only to a PC game/console, there also both 2 completely different games one is sandbox other themepark lineair console only game with silly gamepad lol.
Actually, Dark Souls is open ended, much like Skyrim. The difference is, Skyrim is so easy you can walk into just about anywhere and not worry about a thing.
Good and valid point because you have played Skyrim ...oh wait you haven't because its final build isn't released yet ( all the current demonstrations at gaming exhibitions is not the final product ). Amazing the so called " informed " comments you get from people who don't know something
@ Op
There is no decision here ,Skyrim on PC wins hand down .Install some Mods to enhance the game and you will have a true immersive RPG experience . But as mentioned its silly to compare a PC version of a game to a console game ,the PC is vastly superior
Dark Souls and Skyrim are two very different games. Can't compare them so Skyrim doesn't win anything.
If we compare Demon's Souls to Arena, Daggerfall, Morrowind and Oblivion, Demon's Souls wins.
Stopped reading after this sentence.
Demon Soul's was a great game. But better than Morrowind & Oblivion? Oh man...
Anyway, Dark Soul's is a great game if you want to be challenged. Skyrim is a great game if you want to be immersed. At the end of the day, Skyrim will provide significantly more entertainment dollar for dollar.
I'd personally pick up Dark Souls and play it til Skyrim comes out, but it's an exclusive title so it's losing out on my money until it becomes dirt cheap.
I have preordered both . Demon Souls was a challenge and I rate it far superior to Morrowind . However Oblivion was one of my all time favorites so I have to do with Skyrim for the world and Dark Souls for the challenge.
From what i saw in gameplay videos Dark souls apears to be something like severance blade of darkness with better grafix but less tactical combat. Timing isnt that important all combat scenes i watched players were either spamming ranged attacks or meleee attacks or spells and carefully observation or timed blocks and counter attacks seem to be of less importance making the gameplay something like diablo in supert duper 3d grafix, spamfest and all.
It maybe a good hack n slash arcade/console style rpg for the fans of such games but when it comes to players that are seeking challenge or value more the tactical part i dont think it can even be compared with oblivion ..comparing it with skyrim seems equal to blasphemy heh...
Timing isnt that important all combat scenes i watched players were either spamming ranged attacks or meleee attacks or spells and carefully observation or timed blocks and counter attacks seem to be of less importance making the gameplay something like diablo in supert duper 3d grafix, spamfest and all.
Which may or may not be the case but he thinks so.
"At first, the combat feels clunky, but it clicks when you realise it's all about timing your strikes to when enemies are just about to attack, or parrying their attacks and replying while they are still off balance. Each type of undead you face has a distinct way in which it acts, and things start getting really fun when you're beset by several different types at once."
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DS cause it will be an even bigger challenge than its predecessor. Wanted to buy Elder Scrolls for PC but the console port combined with the stupid spyware "steam" will not touch my pc.
We need a MMORPG Cataclysm asap, finish the dark age of MMORPGS now!
"Everything you're bitching about is wrong. People don't have the time to invest in corpse runs, impossible zones, or long winded quests. Sometimes, they just want to pop on and play." "Then maybe MMORPGs aren't for you."
Go for both, cause both of them are good games and its better to have them rather than choosing. It will just give you headaches just for choosing either of them, in the end you will just crave from the other one if you only choose the other. Play and enjoy thats the better part.
Timing isnt that important all combat scenes i watched players were either spamming ranged attacks or meleee attacks or spells and carefully observation or timed blocks and counter attacks seem to be of less importance making the gameplay something like diablo in supert duper 3d grafix, spamfest and all.
Which may or may not be the case but he thinks so.
"At first, the combat feels clunky, but it clicks when you realise it's all about timing your strikes to when enemies are just about to attack, or parrying their attacks and replying while they are still off balance. Each type of undead you face has a distinct way in which it acts, and things start getting really fun when you're beset by several different types at once."
Maybe his statement is true,maybe not. That remains to be sorted out. But out of personal expirience from last 4-5 years rpg's thatcoming out from the market when i see characters on full plate armour rolling over ..heh.. i dont know smells like arcania gothic 4 ,eco dragonis and some other action rpg's that feel alot consolised in gameplay with whatever means that if u get my point.
If it's anything like Demon's Souls, you can only roll in Plate Armor properly if you raise your endurance really high, to raise equip burden stat. 50% or lower equip burden = fast roll. Otherwise you fall down, and do a lazy flop over, then slowly stand back up.
I just can't bet against Skyrim. I feel if there was a decision to be made that would be my choice. I feel that The Elder Scrolls is more proven at this point and therefore the safe bet.
LOL one thing is for sure, this forum is filled with people who talk up games that never live up to the hype. and like others have said why even compare? one is console only, the other is both.
At launch skyrim will be the one that sells more.
1 year from now most people who bought skyrim will still be playing it, where as most people who bought dark souls will be on here talking up the next niche game as if its gona kill the current genre leader.
I'm getting Skyrim for the ps3, and Dark soul's for the 360, I prefer Skyrim on the ps3 because of the higher graphics quality and Dark Soul's on the 360 so there are more players to help...and invade. On thing I disliked about Oblivion was the combat, but that led to some funny ass moments such as flying across the map and such. Demon Soul's combat has more...depth. One thing as well, was Demon Soul's online notes, invades/assistance as well. I thought that added a bit of zest to it as well.
It is hard to pick a "better" game. Hell, I'd go as far as saying its like trying to pick the better game out of a FPS or a turn-based RPG. The two are just that different.
One game was made to blow the player away with massive amount of quests and side content, bonuses to find, and other tidbits of stuff. The other was made to challenge the players and give them a unique twist of online content. (This is based on their other games, ofcourse.) They are both good in their own ways, and I cannot wait for either of them
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Skyrim for freedom sandbox rpg and MILLIONS MODS it will get ill play as all Elder scrolls for months prolly or maybe close to year.
Skyrim looks great from the previews. Say what you want about the combat but at least they're going to add a little more complexity with the double wield/double spell mechanic. Also it looks amazing and the dragons will add some unpredictability to the game play.
I just hope the entire world isn't going to be voice acted by the same 5 people again.
has to be Skyrim for me, as its PC available. Dark Souls is a Console game and not on the PC. So no contest really between the 2, if you have a console you will buy DS on it, if you have a PC you will buy Skyrim. If you have both you will more than likely buy both games.
I have my Dark Souls pre ordered. Let me tell you.. As much as I enjoyed Oblivion, I liked Demon's Souls more. I am sure I will prefer Dark Souls over Skyrim, just because of the challenge. I prefer a game I can't play with my eyes closed...
Skyrim on PC will be superior in every way and dont forget all the MODS it will get will make game just awesome.
Btw i realy dont understand why OP compare a console game only to a PC game/console, there also both 2 completely different games one is sandbox other themepark lineair console only game with silly gamepad lol.
Actually, Dark Souls is open ended, much like Skyrim. The difference is, Skyrim is so easy you can walk into just about anywhere and not worry about a thing.
Good and valid point because you have played Skyrim ...oh wait you haven't because its final build isn't released yet ( all the current demonstrations at gaming exhibitions is not the final product ). Amazing the so called " informed " comments you get from people who don't know something
@ Op
There is no decision here ,Skyrim on PC wins hand down .Install some Mods to enhance the game and you will have a true immersive RPG experience . But as mentioned its silly to compare a PC version of a game to a console game ,the PC is vastly superior
"after the time of dice came the day of mice "
I hadn't heard of Dark Souls until this thread, I will definitely be checking it out now.
Will be buying Skyrim regardless.
Okay, let me rephrase that. If it's anything like Oblivion, what so ever, it's so easy you can play it without worry, all the time. However, I based my comments on many editor, and critic comments about Dark Souls not being a game to play if you want to relax, but skyrim is.
Edit: To be clear, I'm getting Skyrim, and Dark Souls. I'm sure Skyrim is amazing on PC like Oblivion was, however, I preferred Demon's Souls over Oblivion on pc. I'm not sure how Dark Souls vs Skyrim will turn out, however, I'm sure both will be fun in their own rights.
other than being rpg's arent they really two different kinds of games?
They arent even competing for revenue let alone market share
To the caterpillar it is the end of the world, to the master, it is a butterfly.
Dark Souls and Skyrim are two very different games. Can't compare them so Skyrim doesn't win anything.
Both are pre-order for me.
So now we're hipstering on about console games too eh?
Both will be good, deal with it.
Stopped reading after this sentence.
Demon Soul's was a great game. But better than Morrowind & Oblivion? Oh man...
Anyway, Dark Soul's is a great game if you want to be challenged. Skyrim is a great game if you want to be immersed. At the end of the day, Skyrim will provide significantly more entertainment dollar for dollar.
I'd personally pick up Dark Souls and play it til Skyrim comes out, but it's an exclusive title so it's losing out on my money until it becomes dirt cheap.
I have preordered both . Demon Souls was a challenge and I rate it far superior to Morrowind . However Oblivion was one of my all time favorites so I have to do with Skyrim for the world and Dark Souls for the challenge.
From what i saw in gameplay videos Dark souls apears to be something like severance blade of darkness with better grafix but less tactical combat. Timing isnt that important all combat scenes i watched players were either spamming ranged attacks or meleee attacks or spells and carefully observation or timed blocks and counter attacks seem to be of less importance making the gameplay something like diablo in supert duper 3d grafix, spamfest and all.
It maybe a good hack n slash arcade/console style rpg for the fans of such games but when it comes to players that are seeking challenge or value more the tactical part i dont think it can even be compared with oblivion ..comparing it with skyrim seems equal to blasphemy heh...
In this blog http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2011/oct/02/dark-souls-review-xbox-ps3 the writer indicates that timing is rather important.
Which may or may not be the case but he thinks so.
"At first, the combat feels clunky, but it clicks when you realise it's all about timing your strikes to when enemies are just about to attack, or parrying their attacks and replying while they are still off balance. Each type of undead you face has a distinct way in which it acts, and things start getting really fun when you're beset by several different types at once."
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
DS cause it will be an even bigger challenge than its predecessor. Wanted to buy Elder Scrolls for PC but the console port combined with the stupid spyware "steam" will not touch my pc.
We need a MMORPG Cataclysm asap, finish the dark age of MMORPGS now!
"Everything you're bitching about is wrong. People don't have the time to invest in corpse runs, impossible zones, or long winded quests. Sometimes, they just want to pop on and play."
"Then maybe MMORPGs aren't for you."
Go for both, cause both of them are good games and its better to have them rather than choosing. It will just give you headaches just for choosing either of them, in the end you will just crave from the other one if you only choose the other. Play and enjoy thats the better part.
Maybe his statement is true,maybe not. That remains to be sorted out. But out of personal expirience from last 4-5 years rpg's thatcoming out from the market when i see characters on full plate armour rolling over ..heh.. i dont know smells like arcania gothic 4 ,eco dragonis and some other action rpg's that feel alot consolised in gameplay with whatever means that if u get my point.
If it's anything like Demon's Souls, you can only roll in Plate Armor properly if you raise your endurance really high, to raise equip burden stat. 50% or lower equip burden = fast roll. Otherwise you fall down, and do a lazy flop over, then slowly stand back up.
I just can't bet against Skyrim. I feel if there was a decision to be made that would be my choice. I feel that The Elder Scrolls is more proven at this point and therefore the safe bet.
LOL one thing is for sure, this forum is filled with people who talk up games that never live up to the hype. and like others have said why even compare? one is console only, the other is both.
At launch skyrim will be the one that sells more.
1 year from now most people who bought skyrim will still be playing it, where as most people who bought dark souls will be on here talking up the next niche game as if its gona kill the current genre leader.
its how it is.
I'm getting Skyrim for the ps3, and Dark soul's for the 360, I prefer Skyrim on the ps3 because of the higher graphics quality and Dark Soul's on the 360 so there are more players to help...and invade. On thing I disliked about Oblivion was the combat, but that led to some funny ass moments such as flying across the map and such. Demon Soul's combat has more...depth. One thing as well, was Demon Soul's online notes, invades/assistance as well. I thought that added a bit of zest to it as well.
It is hard to pick a "better" game. Hell, I'd go as far as saying its like trying to pick the better game out of a FPS or a turn-based RPG. The two are just that different.
One game was made to blow the player away with massive amount of quests and side content, bonuses to find, and other tidbits of stuff. The other was made to challenge the players and give them a unique twist of online content. (This is based on their other games, ofcourse.) They are both good in their own ways, and I cannot wait for either of them
Skyrim for PC, for me. Ultra Settings all the way!!!