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MoreplexMoreplex Member Posts: 472

Seems the sub cracker is at it again..

 



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There were 2168 payments made between my payment on September 5th and my payment on October 5th. So I hypothesize that there are approximately 2168 subscriptions at this time.



Can any others see if your results are similar.



142877 Game Time One Month EUR 11.40 COMPLETE

145045 Game Time One Month EUR 11.40 COMPLETE


 



 


Now either the double and triple billing led to the inflated numbers of 5k, or they lost half their subs from 3 months ago.  I am betting it was the triple billing that led to the inflated numbers and they are steady at 2k subs.   I would like to know how many of them are double and triple account holders.  

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  • GrayGhost79GrayGhost79 Member UncommonPosts: 4,775

    Originally posted by Moreplex

    Seems the sub cracker is at it again..

     



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    There were 2168 payments made between my payment on September 5th and my payment on October 5th. So I hypothesize that there are approximately 2168 subscriptions at this time.



    Can any others see if your results are similar.



    142877 Game Time One Month EUR 11.40 COMPLETE

    145045 Game Time One Month EUR 11.40 COMPLETE


     



     


    Now either the double and triple billing led to the inflated numbers of 5k, or they lost half their subs from 3 months ago.  I am betting it was the triple billing that led to the inflated numbers and they are steady at 2k subs.   I would like to know how many of them are double and triple account holders.  

    Nah, you already know how this is going to go. Those that supported his findings the first time around (Then decided he didn't know what he was talking about when he said there was an error due to the double/triple billing etc.) won't support this because it shows a decline. 

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    135579 Game Time Three Months EUR 29.05 COMPLETE

    143336 Game Time Three Months EUR 29.40 COMPLETE



    between 6.12.2011 & 9.13.2011 - averages about 2.5k/month



    edit: if that number really is the number of payments since launch - the community has funded over $1.4M worth of development, assuming the majority of that is being reinvested into development - do you think we are getting our money worth?


     


     


    Um nope.

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,686

    Originally posted by Moreplexedit: if that number really is the number of payments since launch - the community has funded over $1.4M worth of development, assuming the majority of that is being reinvested into development - do you think we are getting our money worth?

     


     


    Um nope.

     Of course he seems to have totally forgotten about all the initial game purchases.   Pretty sure the total is about double what he estimates... but someone could go look it up in the financials (at least as of June) if they really cared.

     

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    Originally posted by Moreplex

    Originally posted by SHOE788

    Without knowing the way the transaction number "counts" it's utterly useless to make conclusions based on it.


    Exactly my point!  

    @ Greyghost:

    You propose that fans of Mortal Online only accept evidence that is favorable to towards MO. Just thought I would point out that the opposite could be said about at least some critics of MO.

    Things frequently get (mis)interpreted in whatever way is most unfavorable.  Last month, the surge in payment numbers was just people on the free trial. Now that we know it is not sustained, it's "people getting double billed". That of course makes very little sense, since it would require EVERY ACCOUNT getting double billed (or 1/2 of accounts getting triple billed).  I don't doubt that some people have been double billed, but I never have bben, and I'm sure there would be more of an uproar if double billing was that widespread.

     

    My monthly payment just came up and I can verify that the monthly increment in the payment counter is in the 2100's.  What the surge and drop in numbers really shows is that ther are a significant number of people interested in the overall design of MO but not satisfied with the current execution of that design. MO's future growth (or lack thereof) depends on how long those people will stay "waiting in the wings" and Sv's ability to keep working towards a better execution of their plans.  When / if another game comes out with a similar design plan and clearly better execution, those people will go there. 

    P.s. @ Moreplex:  August was 2 months ago, not 3

  • MoreplexMoreplex Member Posts: 472

     

    This player is very optimistic.  He seems to think the TC patch will bring 2-3k subs back.  I hope that people by now have learned what a content patch from SV means and wait for real reveiws.

     

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    Yes, there has been a official comment some month ago to need 5k subs for break even and to be only 500 subs away from that point. From my fealing the number of players decreased during August and September, but who can tell about the number of subs.


    i beleive the TC update will = 5000 subs for that first month, lets hope this time they can keep alot more of them.

    but with TC they need to bring a few other things to keep players active when there is no wars going on, eg a few new mobs, a new resource (Like cerulite rock, it did more for keeping people subbed in dawn than anything else)


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