Out of every setting i can think of (there aren't that many to start with), baseline fantasy is the one i can connect with the easiest. Sci-Fi not so much (getting too stale for me after a while) and whatever asian setting not at all.
Fantasy (elves, orcs, trolls, dawrfs..) never gets old for me. I've got a TON of audiobooks set in medieval fantasy, both high and low. Many times i thought what an awesome mmorpg this or that book could make.
So for me fantasy is not getting old, but it has to be presented the right way. It's not the setting getting old, but games fail to represent it in an interesting way.
Out of every setting i can think of (there aren't that many to start with), baseline fantasy is the one i can connect with the easiest. Sci-Fi not so much (getting too stale for me after a while) and whatever asian setting not at all.
Fantasy (elves, orcs, trolls, dawrfs..) never gets old for me. I've got a TON of audiobooks set in medieval fantasy, both high and low. Many times i thought what an awesome mmorpg this or that book could make.
So for me fantasy is not getting old, but it has to be presented the right way. It's not the setting getting old, but games fail to represent it in an interesting way.
I wonder... a Harry Potter MMOIRPG?
Ideas?
I mean it is based on a fantasy setting.
There's also rumors of Avatar being turned into an MMORPG.
I personally would love to see that happen just because it would be visually stunning.
Out of every setting i can think of (there aren't that many to start with), baseline fantasy is the one i can connect with the easiest. Sci-Fi not so much (getting too stale for me after a while) and whatever asian setting not at all.
Fantasy (elves, orcs, trolls, dawrfs..) never gets old for me. I've got a TON of audiobooks set in medieval fantasy, both high and low. Many times i thought what an awesome mmorpg this or that book could make.
So for me fantasy is not getting old, but it has to be presented the right way. It's not the setting getting old, but games fail to represent it in an interesting way.
I wonder... a Harry Potter MMOIRPG?
Ideas?
I mean it is based on a fantasy setting.
There's also rumors of Avatar being turned into an MMORPG.
I personally would love to see that happen just because it would be visually stunning.
I wouldn't mind... as long as they have lots of skills I can choose from.
Well maybe it's the way the current fantasy mmos are setup that is old. They all follow a similar model.
With that said, I'm getting a bit tired of fantasy as well. Even the upcoming Star Wars mmo seems too fantasy for my tastes. I'd love a cyberpunk type mmo or something like a world based around Dues Ex.
Well maybe it's the way the current fantasy mmos are setup that is old. They all follow a similar model.
With that said, I'm getting a bit tired of fantasy as well. Even the upcoming Star Wars mmo seems too fantasy for my tastes. I'd love a cyberpunk type mmo or something like a world based around Dues Ex.
I looked and read about the Star Wars mmo and I love Star Wars, but I know I wouldn't like that mmo.
It just doesn't appeal to me at all when I look at the gameplay videos or any of it.
Well maybe it's the way the current fantasy mmos are setup that is old. They all follow a similar model.
With that said, I'm getting a bit tired of fantasy as well. Even the upcoming Star Wars mmo seems too fantasy for my tastes. I'd love a cyberpunk type mmo or something like a world based around Dues Ex.
I looked and read about the Star Wars mmo and I love Star Wars, but I know I wouldn't like that mmo.
It just doesn't appeal to me at all when I look at the gameplay videos or any of it.
I don't really mean the gameplay but the setting itself. I mean the force is just magic set in a sci fi universe. The setting is a space fantasy I suppose. That's what I mean when it still feels too much like fantasy.
It's not that they are old...it is that the genre is saturated by them.
this.
fantasy mmorpg simply hit critical mass. will it burst like a bubble? will it collapse into itself? will it slowly stop shining? will it persist here?irrelevant. point is it wont get much bigger than this
Well, I'm hoping THAT'S not true.
Like others are saying I'm hoping Guild Wars 2 will kind of save the genre.
I know a lot of people are doubtful, but you have to keep on hoping that it will somehow be saved.
Otherwise what's even the point of playing fantasy mmorpgs?
It's not that they are old...it is that the genre is saturated by them.
this.
fantasy mmorpg simply hit critical mass. will it burst like a bubble? will it collapse into itself? will it slowly stop shining? will it persist here?irrelevant. point is it wont get much bigger than this
I don't necessarily think so. Look at shooters, how old the FPS genre is and how similar the titles are. Always terrorists vs counters in one way or another. But by time, FPS got served in a progressing way by companies making an effort -and people stuck to them until today, still excited.
I remain with my point: it's not fantasy getting old, but the way it gets provided in shallow, fail games for years by now.
Fantasy mmorpgs will never get old. But shallow mmorpgs of any genre will
A lot of people have talked about shallow mmorpgs and the mmorpgs that generally are referred to this are free to play because of cash shops providing pay to win features.
What I'm curious about is the mmorpgs that only have item shops with vanity items, and why a lot of people still snub them.
Are all free to play games just not as good as pay to play?
This can't be true though because I've played some pretty rotten pay to play mmorpgs.
Fantasy is really such a broad genre that you can do a ton with it. It is just the typical tolken-esque DnD type fantasy that is beyond dull at this point. Even if you wanted to do a swords and sorcery fantasy game there are so many directions you could go with it that isn't the typical fantasy setting.
All men think they're fascinating. In my case, it's justified
fantasy mmorpg simply hit critical mass. will it burst like a bubble? will it collapse into itself? will it slowly stop shining? will it persist here?irrelevant. point is it wont get much bigger than this
Takes 99% of the fantasy MMO market right off the internet.
If you can make dragons and shields explode too, you probably get them all.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
Fantasy is really such a broad genre that you can do a ton with it. It is just the typical tolken-esque DnD type fantasy that is beyond dull at this point. Even if you wanted to do a swords and sorcery fantasy game there are so many directions you could go with it that isn't the typical fantasy setting.
I never liked the Lord of the Rings mmorpg.
I tried to get into it but for some reason it just didn't appeal to me at all.
I loved the movies so I thought I would love the game too but I just didn't.
Fantasy is really such a broad genre that you can do a ton with it. It is just the typical tolken-esque DnD type fantasy that is beyond dull at this point. Even if you wanted to do a swords and sorcery fantasy game there are so many directions you could go with it that isn't the typical fantasy setting.
I never liked the Lord of the Rings mmorpg.
I tried to get into it but for some reason it just didn't appeal to me at all.
I loved the movies so I thought I would love the game too but I just didn't.
So you didn't like the game so you don't like the setting, how does that follow?
fantasy mmorpg simply hit critical mass. will it burst like a bubble? will it collapse into itself? will it slowly stop shining? will it persist here?irrelevant. point is it wont get much bigger than this
Takes 99% of the fantasy MMO market right off the internet.
Right?!
I hate elves in mmorpgs so much because it's not anything new!
They are in basically every single fantasy mmorpg and the funny part is they usually have the same exact classes as humans so in no way are they different besides having pointy ears.
Fantasy is really such a broad genre that you can do a ton with it. It is just the typical tolken-esque DnD type fantasy that is beyond dull at this point. Even if you wanted to do a swords and sorcery fantasy game there are so many directions you could go with it that isn't the typical fantasy setting.
I never liked the Lord of the Rings mmorpg.
I tried to get into it but for some reason it just didn't appeal to me at all.
I loved the movies so I thought I would love the game too but I just didn't.
So you didn't like the game so you don't like the setting, how does that follow?
I don't quite understand your question.
I loved the setting, but the game just felt lacking in something.
The story is great and everything, but I didn't like the game play.
It didn't feel as if it was bringing anything new to the table.
I don't think it will ever get old. I do think maybe what is getting old for some veteran players is the class mechanics. Generally a druid is a druid in every game, a cleric is a cleric. Each game may have slightly different mechanics, but you sort of know what to expect going in. That can be a good or a bad thing depending on how you look at it.
I loved the setting, but the game just felt lacking in something.
The story is great and everything, but I didn't like the game play.
It didn't feel as if it was bringing anything new to the table.
What I meant was, what does not liking the current fantasy mmo's (anymore?) have to do with not liking fantasy as a setting for mmo's in general? Is it really fantasy as a setting people are tired of or is it the gameplay and the way the setting is presented?
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Absoluteley no.
Out of every setting i can think of (there aren't that many to start with), baseline fantasy is the one i can connect with the easiest. Sci-Fi not so much (getting too stale for me after a while) and whatever asian setting not at all.
Fantasy (elves, orcs, trolls, dawrfs..) never gets old for me. I've got a TON of audiobooks set in medieval fantasy, both high and low. Many times i thought what an awesome mmorpg this or that book could make.
So for me fantasy is not getting old, but it has to be presented the right way. It's not the setting getting old, but games fail to represent it in an interesting way.
I wonder... a Harry Potter MMOIRPG?
Ideas?
I mean it is based on a fantasy setting.
There's also rumors of Avatar being turned into an MMORPG.
I personally would love to see that happen just because it would be visually stunning.
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I wouldn't mind... as long as they have lots of skills I can choose from.
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Not to me, I'm still waiting for a fantasy themed game that I "love".
To be honest, I'd love something a bit more generic. Regular Knights, regular dragons, regular fantays stuff.
All of the fantasy stuff (new fantasy) is a bit too stylized.
I tend not to stick with sci-fi games in any case.
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Yeah, sci-fi isn't my cup of tea either.
Also I would love an mmorpg where I could actually be a dragon besides Istaria.
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Well maybe it's the way the current fantasy mmos are setup that is old. They all follow a similar model.
With that said, I'm getting a bit tired of fantasy as well. Even the upcoming Star Wars mmo seems too fantasy for my tastes. I'd love a cyberpunk type mmo or something like a world based around Dues Ex.
I looked and read about the Star Wars mmo and I love Star Wars, but I know I wouldn't like that mmo.
It just doesn't appeal to me at all when I look at the gameplay videos or any of it.
Smile
It's not so much that fantasy MMO's are becoming old, it's more that we've just kept making the same fantasy MMO since Everquest.
I don't really mean the gameplay but the setting itself. I mean the force is just magic set in a sci fi universe. The setting is a space fantasy I suppose. That's what I mean when it still feels too much like fantasy.
It's not that they are old...it is that the genre is saturated by them.
I don´t think fantasy MMos are getting old....
The thing is that wowish/everquest II gameplay is....and all moos copy that.
Guild Wars 2 will offer a complete different gameplay for the genre and hopefully will bring up the fantasy back!
Well, I'm hoping THAT'S not true.
Like others are saying I'm hoping Guild Wars 2 will kind of save the genre.
I know a lot of people are doubtful, but you have to keep on hoping that it will somehow be saved.
Otherwise what's even the point of playing fantasy mmorpgs?
Smile
I don't necessarily think so. Look at shooters, how old the FPS genre is and how similar the titles are. Always terrorists vs counters in one way or another. But by time, FPS got served in a progressing way by companies making an effort -and people stuck to them until today, still excited.
I remain with my point: it's not fantasy getting old, but the way it gets provided in shallow, fail games for years by now.
Fantasy mmorpgs will never get old. But shallow mmorpgs of any genre will
A lot of people have talked about shallow mmorpgs and the mmorpgs that generally are referred to this are free to play because of cash shops providing pay to win features.
What I'm curious about is the mmorpgs that only have item shops with vanity items, and why a lot of people still snub them.
Are all free to play games just not as good as pay to play?
This can't be true though because I've played some pretty rotten pay to play mmorpgs.
Smile
Fantasy is really such a broad genre that you can do a ton with it. It is just the typical tolken-esque DnD type fantasy that is beyond dull at this point. Even if you wanted to do a swords and sorcery fantasy game there are so many directions you could go with it that isn't the typical fantasy setting.
All men think they're fascinating. In my case, it's justified
Consider: Exploding elves, exploding orcs. Randomly.
Takes 99% of the fantasy MMO market right off the internet.
If you can make dragons and shields explode too, you probably get them all.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
I never liked the Lord of the Rings mmorpg.
I tried to get into it but for some reason it just didn't appeal to me at all.
I loved the movies so I thought I would love the game too but I just didn't.
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So you didn't like the game so you don't like the setting, how does that follow?
Right?!
I hate elves in mmorpgs so much because it's not anything new!
They are in basically every single fantasy mmorpg and the funny part is they usually have the same exact classes as humans so in no way are they different besides having pointy ears.
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Fantasy aint getting old. However same combination of elves, gameplay mechanics and you being the hero is indeed getting old.
I don't quite understand your question.
I loved the setting, but the game just felt lacking in something.
The story is great and everything, but I didn't like the game play.
It didn't feel as if it was bringing anything new to the table.
Smile
I don't think it will ever get old. I do think maybe what is getting old for some veteran players is the class mechanics. Generally a druid is a druid in every game, a cleric is a cleric. Each game may have slightly different mechanics, but you sort of know what to expect going in. That can be a good or a bad thing depending on how you look at it.
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What I meant was, what does not liking the current fantasy mmo's (anymore?) have to do with not liking fantasy as a setting for mmo's in general? Is it really fantasy as a setting people are tired of or is it the gameplay and the way the setting is presented?
I think its just that the genre and games themselves are getting older and were not really seeing anything new and groundbreaking.