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what year did the major WoW bashing start?
MMOExposed
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just curious, but what year did the major WoW bashing {mod edit} start?
{mod note- also edited title to match and be a bit less lightning rod}
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For me this year. I wouldn't call it bashing exactly though, since I try not to mention my dislike of the game very much. Heck, I wouldn't even have come into this thread, but I saw the main title in the window on the main site and wanted to see what people were saying in answer.
"If half of what you tell me is a lie, how can I believe any of it?"
A year after it came out once people realized how shallow, thoughtless, and skilless the game really was. World of Warcraft is seen as the "Starter" MMO for new people to the MMO genre. It's not a "serious" MMO by any means whatsoever. I do however understand people's frustration at the "bashing" the game gets, but you need to understand the bad points of a game & where it's coming from. There's a reason why there are so MANY kids whom play WoW.
However, making threads like this is considered trolling MMOExposed, please reframe from doing it :d
The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.
Before Vanilla.
Increased with Burning Crusade.
Increased with Lich King.
Increased with Cataclysm.
You see...with each expansion, some of the people that were fine with the game before that expansion - some of them ended up joining the hatetrain.
I stuck it out through Cata for the most part... bought the expansion, played for a week . . . and brutally /facepalmed myself.
Kind of like you're seeing an increase with MoP.
There would be fewer haters if MoP was not going to be what it is - because those that were fine with Cata would have still been fine. There would be fewer haters if not for Cata, because the LK folks were fine. There would be fewer haters if not for LK, because the BC folks were fine. There would be fewer haters if not for BC, because the Vanilla folks were fine.
There is a growing group of Latter Day WoW haters growing - that still love the game up to a certain expansion and wish it would return to that.
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
Explorer: 87%, Killer: 67%, Achiever: 27%, Socializer: 20%
I've been trying to guess. I probably started noticing it more in the last 2-3 years. I'd say 2008 or so. Lots of wow bashing started leading up to WARs release, I remember that much.When Age of Conan was about to be released is when I noticed the bashing and hating and now Age of Conan is F2P. Whatever happened to all those fanbois. LOL
I think around the time when Warhammer Online was slated to come out. The original "WoW Killer." It was mostly WoW players who were disgruntled by one major patch or another.
And as time went on, people who got burnt out or felt slighted in some way jumped on the hate train. It's to the point where you have people who haven't played it or maybe tried the trial version acting like it's the worst thing to ever happen to gaming, despite the fact that it blew off the floodgates for the entire MMO industry and made developers pay attention to it.
I will never understand this bashing nonsense. When i dislike something i move on. I dislike FFXIV but you won't see me talking abou it day and night. i think most of bashers are closet lovers lol
Never in 10 years of my gaming experince i bashed a game continuously or latchd on to it like ex who dumped me.
A year after it came out once people realized how shallow, thoughtless, and skilless the game really was. World of Warcraft is seen as the "Starter" MMO for new people to the MMO genre. It's not a "serious" MMO by any means whatsoever. I do however understand people's frustration at the "bashing" the game gets, but you need to understand the bad points of a game & where it's coming from. There's a reason why there are so MANY kids whom play WoW.
However, making threads like this is considered trolling MMOExposed, please reframe from doing it :d
Hmm, I guess I thought it was a good topic.Not sure when the major wow bashing started but its probebly related with the mmo's released after WoW and forums overflowing with WoW fans bashing the heck out of them. It no justification ofcourse. But it certainly does explain alot.
naw I remember it before Warhammer. Cause I remember people in Guild Wars bashing WoW.
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2004. Early in 2004.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
The thread title itself, and the content in his original post are classic "Troll Baiting" threads. It literally looked like he was trying to create a flamewar since "Bashing on WoW" is a largely controversial subject. He could of worded it different obviously
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The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.
Heh, I decided to go back and look in this very section of the forums... a locked thread! http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/5368/WoW-the-next-best-thing.html
Course, the "juicy" bits are gone... and lol, the staff was a little more - ahem, agressive back then too.
Sometimes it is a trip to go back and read those old threads (don't necro them, they hate when you necro them):
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/forum/432/page/750
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
Explorer: 87%, Killer: 67%, Achiever: 27%, Socializer: 20%
I dont know where it started but I got a feeling its gonna move over to swtor. And that just explains that the bashing comes from an mmo that is too popular for the "rage I wanna be original" people posting on these forums.
wow damn, them Mods were sick... fighting each other and locking a thread over their own fighting....
also interesting to read some of these old post
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/6829/WoW-vs-Lineage-II.html
I guess it was a much different community back then. I guess WoW was the cause of this generation of MMO gaming's bad community
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Yup, the bashing began well before the game opened.
I smile a bit to myself at all of the more recent bashing heroes. It all feels so familiar.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
I thought he meant when it became a 'poptrend' or, when it became the 'cool' thing to do. But I've never been one of the 'cool cats' so I guess I don't really know LOL
I think negativity has always been something the cool cats do on message boards.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
lol these people sound exciting about PvP in WoW
I found that interesting.
wow here is early talk that only kids play WoW
wow early Raid bashing to... I guess that didnt start with WoW
oh my, check this thread out as well. Beta was long after 2 months? WoW rushed
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Not sure when it began but it's pretty typical really. Whenever something becomes excessively popular, people want to do everything they can to come off as hip and cool, so they bash it. Forums are just sort of known for that. The people who like the game don't post much because they're actually playing the game. Most of the people who "hate" the game are people who've burnt themselves out on the game by playing 15 hours a day for the last six tyears and then they wonder why they don't find the game fun anymore.
Wow doesn't have an end I have heard allot of times, but actually, everytime you finished the new features you had to wait and in that period time you didn't have anything to do. What blizzard really sucks is at keeping the old dungeons interesting, they just bring out new content every time that will make allot of the old content useless.
here early bashin of FFA PvP
Hey I remember one of my friends in vanilla say you could attack any NPC that was flagged in the game on a PvP server, even own faction members.
Is that true? I didnt make a PvP server character until TBC came out. So I have no idea how it was back then.
How long will WoW last? lol
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People have always hated on WoW, even when it was still the unproven new comer and EQ was king.
Since November 23, 2004
See what I meant about the current arguments sounding so eerily familiar? Deja Vu.
First off, Blizzard has yet to release details on what exactly they're planning but for sure, there's going to be tons of options for end game. Life/Epic quests, AvH combat (Battlegrounds, PvP, etc.), Hero classes, Raids, World events, secret areas to find and explore, unlockables (Opening of the Dark Portals).
Also don't forget, Blizzard has stated numerous times that they'll have free monthly updates (almost expansion worthy amounts), GM run events (Halloween festivles, Warcraft Specific holidays were some examples they explained), expansions (giving more classes, races, quests, zones, etc.)
Most of those predictions did come true, but the vast majority of them only in the most limited fasion. Some are obvious marketing hype.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.