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lol - thank you
I think it's one of those subcutaneous zits that take a few days to get ready, and you look at in the mirror trying to work out if the pain right now is worth the squeeze or you should leave it for a few days to ...ripen.
eeeeeewwwwwwwww
GMTheia
I agree with you on this - and I want much more fluff too. PVP has had the lions share of the effort. AI is all about trying to re-balance that - but yes, agreed.
GMTheia
Gm Theia -
Hello, I've been following this post - I gotta admitt I was surprised to see you pop in here and attempt to engage some of the community about MO - It's very bold of you as this place can be very, very unkind
That said - I commend you for coming over here and trying, it's a place most mmo companies steer clear of (for obvious reasons).
I played MO on and off a lot since early beta (sausage lake incident) with a small group of friends. I am currently done with MO and have been for a few months however my brother still plays. I was hopeing to avoid a lot of the back and fourth going on in this thread and try to shed some light on my problem with MO and views on things.
I think people are so fired up over MO because initially it showed so much potential to us sandboxers, my guild was absolutley stocked for MO, we came over from Darkfall, we all pre-ordered early and played in Beta. To be honest most of us loved beta when we didn't have to deal with the extensive resource gathering and crafting and could just have some good ol'pvp fights -that was the game at its best, at it's core - people play MO for the PvP NOT the crafting.
What happened after release was, sadly what has happened with so many other sandboxes...the game was littered with bugs, some small but many game wrecking - balance issues were in abundance (thieves stealing 1k stacks of ore) and crafting was clunky, grindy and unpredictible.
The best part of the game PvP was lost in my guild spending a month trying to figure out the crafting system - in the end most my guild mates quit simply fed up with things - I stayed and would play on and off for a lot longer. While I always enjoyed MO when at it's best PvPing with my guild, there always seemed to be fairly serious bugs.
Then the rumors of dupeing and exploiting by some of the better known "PK" guilds became rampent - the final straw for me was the ghost armor bug - Yes, I know it was fixed - but it took so long to fix and no one was ever really punished for it, I know this because my guild at the time (silver sun republic) reported numerous people for exploiting it over and over and over. This at essence was in my opinion the biggest flaw with MO - I followed the rules, I would spend hours resource gathering and crafting with my guild only to lose all of my hardwork to an exploiter or a zerg of PK's.
My old guildies that used to play always joke we would happily return to MO if they would go back to the pre-crafting days of Beta..In our opinion it was the clunky, time consuming crafting system that really did the game in.
I have some very bitter memories of MO but never wanted the game to fail by any means - There are very few sandboxes in the MMO genre and it's hard to watch a game like MO with so much potential repeatedly suffer from so many game wrecking problems. I have a lot of respect for what you guys tried to do (same with Darkfall). I think it's a case of being too ambitious.
Again, I commend you for coming over here and trying to engage the community, I apologize for the trolls but I think the only reason they are so upset with MO is because they saw early on what a lot of us saw that MO had so much potential to be an incredible game and unfortunatly it's been a let-down.
Best wishes in the future!
Four million variations is irrelavent, same as in the other crafting skills, as no more than 3 or 4 are ever useful. In fact, as current players confirm, alchemy has no use as vendor potions are as good and cheaper (if you are not just using duped potions of course, which we now know were never tracked).
Remember, in a PvP game people can loot you and discover exactly what you were carrying - so no seekrit sause there.
OK opinion INC from an outside observer that doesn't give a crap if this game lives or dies, and only checks these forums for the lulz/morbid curiosity like watching a train wreck.
The level of unprofessionalism this company shows is truly mind boggling. I'm surprised they are still afloat...I mean they can't even steal another company's EULA and and globally replace "EVE" with "Mortal Online" lol. I used to think Cryptic was unprofessional the way devs and mods would argue with unhappy customers on their own forums, but it takes a special level of arrogance to actually go to an outside forum and do the same, while trying to act like they have some sort of pull there. People can be forgiving if you are humble, but when you act like your crap doesn't stink, you get no mercy.
GM Theia: you are doing SV/MO absolutely zero favors coming here arguing with people and saying stuff like the pop is rising based on your own observations (lol) without backing it up. Every fanboy of every sinking MMO does the same, and no one believes them, either. You'd be better off just answering the questions you are allowed to. I know English isn't your native language, but if I was going to have an employee represent my company on an English speaking forum, I'd have someone that was, or I'd at least give them a spell checker. Like another poster recently said NO ONE is not going to not buy or unsub to a game because of a few unhappy customers on the internet...if that was the case, WoW (or pretty much every MMO for that matter) would be doomed.
By the way, it's easy to explain increased population while losing subs...TRIAL ACCOUNTS.
alright these threads are very entertaining. However, You all are unprofessional, Ya call yours selves MMO players, Come on, do your homework!. Now , I know for a fact a game can last a very long time, Even if their is only 1 person working on the game and maintaining the servers.
Their is a good bit of mmos out their with a small 100-200 pop that managed 3 devs and pump out patchs and have managed to keep a float for a very long time now. When times get rough, if the games owner (if he is a dev that is) Truly is trying to save his investment and wants to save it, He can fire every1, work on the game byhimself and cover server costs with subs. This system sucks as yes patchs/content takes a very long time. However the game can stay afloat on bare bones for years.
I know you all didnt want to hear it, But its true and going on these days and sum indy devs, get hardcore about stuff. However i cant speak for this game, i tried 2 trials, i uninstalled as i didnt like how it was done. Currently past year ive been glued to Xsyon and i like it their. Also to the GM flying about posting, Ive keep watching your posts, If your truly wants these folks here to listen to ya, Dont advertise Wats soon to be coming, No one cares about wat may come, They care about wats already their and working. And it would be a smart idea to gives these folks some hardfacts to back up anything ya say.
This is MMORPM.com, At this site, always expect to get ur head ripped off, we band together, we all have are differences, But if u wish to change their anger, dont advertise wat may be added, Advertise the facts of the game and prove them wrong. Atm your posts are no different then every1 else posting, ya seem like a very eager fanboi defending their game, but around here that makes things worse. So again bring your facts here, Do w/e homework ya need, If you intend to battle these fourms. Now i dont post often anywhere, So im not taking sides on this, but every1 for love of god, do ur homework!
Excellent post and so very true. As for the highlighted part, that is something that every rabid fanboy of any game should stop, read and reflect on: your favorite game is not prospering because of the few small voices on the internet angrily posting about it. It is not prospering because it just isn't a very well made game...
A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true...
Due to their inability to code properly, SV leases the Unreal Engine and ATLAS as the framework for their game (thinking it would be a plug and play mod editor no doubt).
That costs money, and lot's of it. It is part of the reason why MO has never made a profit at any time, even with the skeleton crew it has now.
These boards are to funny. So if I tell my loved one he/she is very "special", then I´m saying he/she is very retarded. Gotcha... Let´s all agree that the word "special" can mean alot of things. Some of you here seem to take every little straw out there to backtalk this game. "Yeah, your saying they are all retarded cause that´s the ONLY meaning the world special have!!!!!!!". Yeah... Right... AMAZING...
To be fair you have a point. But it is all about context. I doubt that a rep from SV would use the term to mean "loved ones that I care about" when using the term about posters critical of the game and the company on this site. Call me crazy....
A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true...
What do you expect when charging people full price for a game which is ridden with bugs, barely functional and server going up and down like a jojjo?
Atleast this was the way I experienced it a couple of months after release and from what I heard it was like that a full year after release. So you really cant do that to customers and expect them not be be angry, specially for us who are waiting for a good sandbox MMO.
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Call me crazy, but I HIGHLY doubt he ment retarded people that some here think. That he even stated wasn´t the case, but it just ain´t enough for some here. It is retarded or NOTHING!!!
But I would call some1 "special" for posting over 2000 posts on a game they don´t like. I don´t mean they are retarded for doing so. But they sure are "special"...
I can also say this for my own. From the time I returned to MO after the TC was introduced, I´ve had 5 friends trying the free trail. And they have ALL bought the game within a day. And I´ve played the game off and on from BETA, and now it´s more populated then in a long time. Probably since release. So it sure seems the population is rising as of TC at least.
Hello Mr.One-post (Norpan), He was calling the usual posters of this section retards. He/she did it then edited it out. Rather quickly I might add. As someone else said watching anything in respect to SV is like watching a train wreck. You want to look away but can't.
Then tryed to play stupid at first. Hence the urban dictonary link. Then in another thread tryed to say they didn't edit their post. Call me stupid but why would it of been edited out if that was the case.
Might be a bit too old to be down with the kids on this one.. to me it means the below -
adjective
1.
of a distinct or particular kind or character: a special kind ofkey.
2.
being a particular one; particular, individual, or certain:You'd better call the special number.
3.
pertaining or peculiar to a particular person, thing, instance,etc.; distinctive; unique: the special features of a plan.
4.
having a specific or particular function, purpose, etc.: aspecial messenger.
GMTheia
Ehh, yeah, in the eyes of some1 that despise SV and MO he probably called them a bunch of "retarded, homofobic, transvestits from hell", before he, ehmm, edited it... I read the thread when it was 2 minutes old, and it said nothing of the kind. So, pretty please, with sugar on top, prove it, or it didn´t happen. Since you guys are so good at screenshooting anything that could miscredit them. Why didn´t you do it this time? Just to think that Theia would namecall ANY1 here is mindboggling. He has kept his cool here even though some here throw punches at him from left and right. It only goes to show how far some here are willing to go to put SV and MO in a bad spot.
Nope Theia. Haven´t you read the latest. You actually wrote RETARDED first, THEN edited it to special, and then every1 else knew that your special ment RETARDED and nothing else... True stroy...
Keep playing stupid about it. Just keeps the topic up top and lets more people see what douches the staff of SV are. They wonder why the games tanking. "It's everyone else's fault except SV... whomp, whomp, whomp."
I don't have a side. Seeing a representive come over and ask for people to subscribe while acting like a douche on the forums is just amusing. It reinforces everything Slapshot has been posting. Matter of fact the best thing this person could do at this point since they can't act proffessionaly is stop posting. Since he's been here he's insulted others more than once and been moderated at least one time. Yeah that's the type of person I would want trying to recruit on behalf of my company.
Granted if SV had a solid product the staff of SV could get away with it. My example CCP. Hemler has np trolling on their forums. However they don't and they need subs. So what happens? A GM comes over and starts insulting people just like the drones they've been sending over here.
This thread has gotten way off topic and has whittled down to arguments and attacks. Locking it and will be cleaning it up.
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