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Should I?
tussauc
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in EVE Online
The universe of EVE online and its visuals are powerful enough to carry me away. Something about them really grabs me, still when I played the trial I found it hard to find time to play with all the other games I was playing. I was considering buying the game off of Steam, but could someone tell me why I should.
I'm not trying to knock the game, I just want to know why I should purchase it.
Other than the visuals, which really do take me to a whole other place.
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If you consider yourself a "hardcore" gamer, and love playing difficult games for the challenge, then Eve Online is probably the only game out there that can really, truly, challenge even someone as experienced as you. Do not go into this game if you're just looking for a relaxed, easy game to spend your time off with, as Eve is the exact polar opposite of that.
Here are some of the main highlights that I personally like (I'm a 4 year veteran of it and have tried virtually every single aspect of it)
-Death is permanent death ship-wise in Eve, so this makes most people use very advanced tactics in PvP to prevent it. Those deadly tactics, if you can learn them, will make you very dangerous in both Eve and other games
-Possible to get into fleet fights between over a thousand players on each side
-A manufacturing and resource extraction system far more advanced than that of any other game in existence
-Griefing and scamming openly allowed, making it one of the most "real" games out there since that kind of stuff happens in real life too. This may not seem like a good thing up front, but learning how to avoid these will make you a smarter person overall
-Lots of different things to do
If you do decide to go into it long-term, here are some EXTREMELY important tips to remember:
-Don't fly what you can't afford to lose
-Trust is the most valuable resource in Eve; don't give anything valuable to anyone you don't trust or it will bite you in the ass
-After doing the basic tutorials to learn the core game mechanics of flying/fitting your ship, join a noob-friendly corp like Eve University so that you can start learning about the remaining 98% of the game.
-Always have skills training, try to avoid dead training time if possible
-Learn to manage your cashflow, or you'll make yourself broke very easily
-Always insure your ships
-If you plan on being PvP heavy, I'd recommend starting as the Minmatar race. If you want to be PvE heavy, I'd recommend Caldari. The other two races can both do these, but the two I mentioned are partiularly good at those aspects.
If you decide to join, good luck.
Where's the any key?
EVE online is THE BEST companion MMO you will ever play.
The nature of skill progressioin makes it perfect if you're someone that plays other games on a regular basis, as you're not going to be left behind, at least not as much, as someone who plays often.
Time investment, logged in time investment, in EVE only means more ISK, and then not really.
Purchase a plex and put it on the market and you'll have plenty of ISK. Play with some bad pilots that log in 10x as often as you do, and odds are you'll have more ISK.
Most of my time in EVE is spent watching movies, or chatting with people. I liked the manufacturing/ production part of the game, and didn't have to do a lot other then set up my production lines and work the market a bit here and there.
If you liked what you saw, I say go for it; even if you don't spend as much time actually in the game as you do with others.
Eve is a FFAPVP. In that respect, it's the best game out there. But if you don't like those sorts of games, I can't recommend it. I'm more casual and don't care for PVP so I'm not part of it, but everything I learned about it says that's a great game for its type. My only complaint is that if they were to change the game to make it more of the type I enjoy, it would lose what made it special.
I love Eve. But it has game destroying flaws... it's community.
If i'm going to be completely honest a good portion of the eve community tries so hard to go out of its way too make new players have the worst time playing the game.
Eve is a video game and people play video games to have fun. When so many people try to ruin that it turns a game into a self destructive entity.
So few people subscribe to eve after they attempt to trial the game due to these players. I believe the official Percentage of subscribers after attempted trials is in the single digits of a percent.
Im sure other people will point out the pros of Eve, freedom, mechanics and all that but i personally feel the most important aspect of a mmo is its community and Eve's players are incredibly destructive to the game they love so much.
And this is coming from a guy that lived in low and null sec for a while before i left ,so no i wasn't an abused carebear in high sec.
Playing: Nothing
Looking forward to: Nothing
I'd like to put a counter-argument to this. Yes, there are a lot of assholes who spend their entire time trying to get as many player kills as they possibly can or get the largest amount of ISK (the in game currency) from scams as they can. However, there are players who really do like to help others and you can get along really well with them. I've made a couple of very strong friendships from people I play with in my corp, and they way I first got introduced to them is just after I had my ass handed to me by a ninja looter that I shot at during a mission. This other guy I had never seen before (not the ninja looter) took pity on me and invited me into his corp; that was several years ago and I've been flying with him ever since, making other friends along the way and having a blast.
Where's the any key?
Oh i had a similar experience when i first started but I know full well that situations like that are the exception and not the rule. Eve is a hard to get into & ruthless game and the majority of the community is the same way.
I was only giving the guy a heads up.
Playing: Nothing
Looking forward to: Nothing
Yes.
Then decide, cause free trials are free.
Great insight you got into EVE community. Do you know every active player in person to make such claims?
While his majority claim maybe wrong. There's more than enough out there. There is an unwritten rule that everyone basically follows. "Trust no one." I've seen more than enough people use that phrase over the years. I would say "Never give anyone your full trust." or "Cover your own ass."
The only exceptions would be people who know each other in real life or came to Eve together from another game. Around every corner there is someone waiting for oppertunity to knock. The above phrases apply to everyone who a person runs into and is not one of those two exceptions. Well there is a third, middle-men. However if a person is doing a transaction that would / should require such a person and they don't use one. Well..... let's just say it makes for a great read. The most important thing in Eve is managing how much risk a person allows themselves to take.
I like Eve and I am not bashing it in anyway. But corps do tend to have drama and if someone thinks they are getting a raw deal.... Has access to really do some damage.... Well we've all read what happens.
If everyone was following that rule, the game would be long dead.
The saying is vastly exaggerated to make a point that unlike in other games, you can lose in EVE. Where is a loss, caution and calculation are at place.
As for big damages you can read about, that is mostly due poor game mechanics that do no offer tools to protect assets of large scale.
It is no big deal, really. Just don't be careless and if you do, learn from your mistakes.
The game is quite simple actually, but it is notoriously hard to learn. Takes patience and friends who can show you the ropes.
I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been -Wayne Gretzky
Go back and read what I wrote instead of picking one line. Could of sworn you just repeated the gist of what others and I have said, while telling me I am wrong. .
I did not say "a person should not or could not group, join a corp, or alliance."
I did not say "Do not interact with others."
There is however no short supply of people who are just waiting for an oppertunity to come along.
Tell you what if anything I said is not true, give me:
an invite to your corp with full permissions.
access to your faction ships and mods. Capitals are ok too. I'll give them back and pay a rental fee when I am done.
one of your top end BPO's for a few days.
Or since I am getting an invite with full permissions. Put those BPO's in the corp hanger. I'll put them back in a week. Thanks
How about something as simple as a full api key?
I thought so.....
Yes the op should try Eve. Why not a trials free. I enjoy the hell out of it and I hope the OP does. However to deny any of what others and I have said as untrue is bs. You know it, I know it, and anyone playing Eve knows it. Again "There's no short supply of people waiting for an opportunity to come along." Is it the majority? I wouldn't go that far. But it depends on what sort of measuring stick is being used. Is scaming , spying , and stealing from perceived enemies counted?
Where exactly did I tell you that you are wrong...?
Apologies about the delayed response. Busy in game and had to wait for a safe opportunity to be able to afk for a minute and post. I guess I misunderstood post 11. Couldn't figure out why it seemed like you were agreeing but on the other hand quoted me and disagreeing. But I guess I get it it now. Thought you were selectively picking that sentence and ignored the one after. my bad.
I would like to amend something I said also. "You know it, I know it, and anyone playing Eve knows it."
The "anyone play Eve knows it" part is untrue. Cause if anyone playing Eve knew it, there wouldn't be people getting royally screwed on a regular basis.
Really? I thought the corps I was in during my time in Eve were, for the most part, fantastic. Since I was a low sec pirate, I always knew where I stood, it was my corp vs the rest of New Eden. Ironically, I found the pirates to be the most friendly and team oriented players in Eve. I was always able to count on my corp when I needed help and vice versa. As for everybody else, my motto was "timeo danaos et dona ferentes".
Having said that, I still always left myself outs. I always had jump clones in other regions and ships too. You have to be ready for anything. That is the way of life in Eve.
Eve is by far the best mmorpg out there.
There are certain queer times and occasions in this strange mixed affair we call life when a man takes this whole universe for a vast practical joke, though the wit thereof he but dimly discerns, and more than suspects that the joke is at nobody's expense but his own.
-- Herman Melville
One of the best pulls for getting me to play this game originally was the simple fact that you don't need to be playing to advance.
It's not like being away from the game for a week will put you at a disadvantage where you can no longer play with your buddies. It's not like Darkfall where you need to be playing otherwise you're 'losing out'.
Just make sure you're constantly setting your skill queue. I'm doing final exams at the moment, but when I start playing again in a few weeks, I have a brand new ship I'll be able to get into. You can't really beat that.
There's no rush to play - That's the way it should be.