Does not discourage anything.. The game is sounding better and better every day.
Full loot PVP is how MMORPGs should be.. if you cant defend yourself then get yourself a good clan
Your suggesting that you need your clan tanding around you to harvest or craft? On the off chance you are ganked? o.0
In the third continent.... yeah, that's where all the best resources, clan wars and PVP happens.
You can also get ganked on the first 2 continents, but the ganker will probably go red like in Lineage 2 and drop equipment when being hunted by the whole server.
You are guessing on how this will be based on Lineage 2, but that's looking not to be the case.
On the 2 continents, as I keep saying in this thread, only your own faction will cause you to drop 'bloods' when you are PKed. You hand these bloods in to have them 'put in gaol'. Too much of this and the PK goes red.
Reds and the other faction will be able to gank you senseless 24/7 wherever you are without consequence (and very probable gain).
The only difference with the thrid continent is that your own faction can also attack you with impunity.
Thats how it was a few months ago anyhow, I haven't been following new developments recently due to interest waning after reading posts by the folks following this game already.
Another eastern mmo that doesn't understand the large percentage of western gamer mentality. A few instances of gear robbing followed by the players reaction of "sod this for a game of soldiers" .
Sounds like a game that will attract a minority of people here, probably the disaffected Aion bunch of gankers, zerg fillers and low level griefers.
Another eastern mmo that doesn't understand the large percentage of western gamer mentality. A few instances of gear robbing followed by the players reaction of "sod this for a game of soldiers" .
Sounds like a game that will attract a minority of people here, probably the disaffected Aion bunch of gankers, zerg fillers and low level griefers.
Yup pretty much another Sandbox that thinks there "HAS" to be PvP in order to be good. See my sig for reference. One less title I'll be looking forward too.
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We need more unique MMORPGs, if that means that a few carebears will QQ and go play another generic single player mmo, that's great for me.
You don't drop equipment, mats or anything if you aren't trying to build something.
You can also play safe on the first 2 continents, where PVP is much less likely to happen, there are tons of guards and players of the same faction.
Seriously, some sandbox elements and you already have carebears scraming Darkfall.
How can they DARE add a bit of PVP in a game.
"Guildmates cooperating? you are crazy! that has never happened in any mmo, at least not in the first mmo ever made, WOW. Pfff, social interaction in an online game, LOL"
"Esport with tournaments is for hardcore pvp'rs that want to be competitive. Openworld PVP with ganking and griefing is for casuals that just wants their pvp mixed with pve from time to time." otacu
Another eastern mmo that doesn't understand the large percentage of western gamer mentality. A few instances of gear robbing followed by the players reaction of "sod this for a game of soldiers" . Sounds like a game that will attract a minority of people here, probably the disaffected Aion bunch of gankers, zerg fillers and low level griefers.
Yup pretty much another Sandbox that thinks there "HAS" to be PvP in order to be good. See my sig for reference. One less title I'll be looking forward too.
GIVE ME A SANDBOX PvE MMO DAMNIT!!!!!!!!!!!
What you want is a PVE only sandbox MMO.
ArcheAge also has PVE, the PVE with more features since Ultima Online.
I think you are overreacting, we don't know almost nothing about this.
But yeah... if you expected 0 PVP no matter what... this isn't the game you are looking for.
"Esport with tournaments is for hardcore pvp'rs that want to be competitive. Openworld PVP with ganking and griefing is for casuals that just wants their pvp mixed with pve from time to time." otacu
I keep seeing the comment - a few carebears....go play something else.
One part of that is true - they do go off and play a mainstream game.
The part that isn't correct is "few". in fact it's the other way round. The pvp guys who don't mind gear drops are in fact the minority in the west.
By the sound of it, this game looks ideal for that type of player. I expect certain players will love it, a niche game for a minortiy of people. There's nothing wrong with that - if it doesn't stifle ongoing development and support funds for the western market.
People tend to forget with these kinds of games that not every other player is a PK. The potential is there, sure; they can attack you or anyone else at anytime.
Thinking back to my UO days though, there were plenty of "good" players as there were PK.
There will be griefing, but just as much, players will find 'safe' routes on the third continent, and protect each other.
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I'm trying to temper my enthusiasm, but this fresh info sounds amazing.
I keep seeing the comment - a few carebears....go play something else.
One part of that is true - they do go off and play a mainstream game.
The part that isn't correct is "few". in fact it's the other way round. The pvp guys who don't mind gear drops are in fact the minority in the west.
By the sound of it, this game looks ideal for that type of player. I expect certain players will love it, a niche game for a minortiy of people. There's nothing wrong with that - if it doesn't stifle ongoing development and support funds for the western market.
i could be wrong but i dont see anything that states theres goin to be Gear drops. i did read something about REFINDED BUILDING MATS AND THAT OBJECT THAT ALOWS YOU TO CAPTURE LAND can be taken but nothing else. the refined building mats are needed to build homes and vilages. the RARE mats are safe in your bags. its almost like you only saw the words KILLED, ITEM, DROP. take a zanax and relax. im very happy that theres a lvl of RISK coming to a MMO. im so sick of all these pussy ass games that coddle its players. if this isent your cup of vodka then there are PLENTY of dumbed down MMOs out there you can play. RIFT/WOW just to name a couple. i for one dont want to play another single player MMORPG
I keep seeing the comment - a few carebears....go play something else.
One part of that is true - they do go off and play a mainstream game.
The part that isn't correct is "few". in fact it's the other way round. The pvp guys who don't mind gear drops are in fact the minority in the west.
By the sound of it, this game looks ideal for that type of player. I expect certain players will love it, a niche game for a minortiy of people. There's nothing wrong with that - if it doesn't stifle ongoing development and support funds for the western market.
i could be wrong but i dont see anything that states theres goin to be Gear drops. i did read something about REFINDED BUILDING MATS AND THAT OBJECT THAT ALOWS YOU TO CAPTURE LAND can be taken but nothing else. the refined building mats are needed to build homes and vilages. the RARE mats are safe in your bags. its almost like you only saw the words KILLED, ITEM, DROP. take a zanax and relax. im very happy that theres a lvl of RISK coming to a MMO. im so sick of all these pussy ass games that coddle its players. if this isent your cup of vodka then there are PLENTY of dumbed down MMOs out there you can play. RIFT/WOW just to name a couple. i for one dont want to play another single player MMORPG
I keep seeing the comment - a few carebears....go play something else.
One part of that is true - they do go off and play a mainstream game.
The part that isn't correct is "few". in fact it's the other way round. The pvp guys who don't mind gear drops are in fact the minority in the west.
By the sound of it, this game looks ideal for that type of player. I expect certain players will love it, a niche game for a minortiy of people. There's nothing wrong with that - if it doesn't stifle ongoing development and support funds for the western market.
i could be wrong but i dont see anything that states theres goin to be Gear drops. i did read something about REFINDED BUILDING MATS AND THAT OBJECT THAT ALOWS YOU TO CAPTURE LAND can be taken but nothing else. the refined building mats are needed to build homes and vilages. the RARE mats are safe in your bags. its almost like you only saw the words KILLED, ITEM, DROP. take a zanax and relax. im very happy that theres a lvl of RISK coming to a MMO. im so sick of all these pussy ass games that coddle its players. if this isent your cup of vodka then there are PLENTY of dumbed down MMOs out there you can play. RIFT/WOW just to name a couple. i for one dont want to play another single player MMORPG
Read again
i just did. did i miss something that you read? if you dont mind could you post where it says you will drop gear?
Seems interesting, but I can see alot of people camping out waiting for the crafter players in order to snag thier stuff.
I mean even in the linked source the translator says that his guild will be waiting to PK the crafters because its *alot less work*
That implys that refining the materials in order to make a claim is a long process, therefore it encourages the PK's to just not bother and try to steal someone elses work.
All fine in theroy but it means that any crafter who's not in a large guild and will have alot of support moving his claim to location is SOL. The rewards for PKing in this instance seem to far out wiegh the risks involved and the bigger PK guilds will always be on the hunt for anyone carrying a claim. Its basically become a *kill me please* flag.
Now if the *Claim* item was unusable for a period of time after an ownership change (Ie a chance for the original makers to reclaim it) I could support it more fully. ATM it appears that they can grab the claim and immediatly use it. Make an ownership change incur a lockdown and have them defend it for a period (with all the slow movement restrictions etc) and I can see the risk Vs reward balancing out more, since the victims could call in support and that PK clan would have to fight to keep thier stolen boootie.
Seems interesting, but I can see alot of people camping out waiting for the crafter players in order to snag thier stuff.
I mean even in the linked source the translator says that his guild will be waiting to PK the crafters because its *alot less work*
That implys that refining the materials in order to make a claim is a long process, therefore it encourages the PK's to just not bother and try to steal someone elses work.
All fine in theroy but it means that any crafter who's not in a large guild and will have alot of support moving his claim to location is SOL. The rewards for PKing in this instance seem to far out wiegh the risks involved and the bigger PK guilds will always be on the hunt for anyone carrying a claim. Its basically become a *kill me please* flag.
Now if the *Claim* item was unusable for a period of time after an ownership change (Ie a chance for the original makers to reclaim it) I could support it more fully. ATM it appears that they can grab the claim and immediatly use it. Make an ownership change incur a lockdown and have them defend it for a period (with all the slow movement restrictions etc) and I can see the risk Vs reward balancing out more, since the victims could call in support and that PK clan would have to fight to keep thier stolen boootie.
the true risk is trying to build on the 3rd continent. there are penelties for pking in this game. something about being hunted by npcs i think. theres a risk for being a pirate but its another way to play the game i guess. theres still a ton of info that needs to come out so some of this info is dripping out atm. the homesteds on the 2 main continents are near major cities so the risk of being pked small. like i said its that 3rd, contested continent that all the craziness happens in. well just have to wait for more info.
I've been looking everywhere for info saying ArcheAge has full loot PvP. It doesn't say that anywhere. The only looting it talks about is in the case of special items that sell for a lot of money to NPC vendors, refined building materials, and the item that lets you claim territory.
Seems to be a lot of speculation going-ons in the forum as of yet. It's hard to actually tell if all of this is really going on or not... I'm all for a more competitive climate but I can see why some ...lesser hard-core gamers might drop the ball early. If XL Games wishes to cater both audiences they might want to reconsider the heavy penalty on ownership and emphasize more on the PK-system.
Seems interesting, but I can see alot of people camping out waiting for the crafter players in order to snag thier stuff.
I mean even in the linked source the translator says that his guild will be waiting to PK the crafters because its *alot less work*
That implys that refining the materials in order to make a claim is a long process, therefore it encourages the PK's to just not bother and try to steal someone elses work.
All fine in theroy but it means that any crafter who's not in a large guild and will have alot of support moving his claim to location is SOL. The rewards for PKing in this instance seem to far out wiegh the risks involved and the bigger PK guilds will always be on the hunt for anyone carrying a claim. Its basically become a *kill me please* flag.
Now if the *Claim* item was unusable for a period of time after an ownership change (Ie a chance for the original makers to reclaim it) I could support it more fully. ATM it appears that they can grab the claim and immediatly use it. Make an ownership change incur a lockdown and have them defend it for a period (with all the slow movement restrictions etc) and I can see the risk Vs reward balancing out more, since the victims could call in support and that PK clan would have to fight to keep thier stolen boootie.
You've completely taken the text out of context.
The person waiting to gank is with his guild on the 3rd continent waiting for city 'shard' holders to come. This is a lot different from camping people crafting and then killing them. It should be obvious only the largest and most powerful guilds will control any substantial area on this continent and they will have to fight for their land.
As for building on the normal continents it's already been said it's alot safer to build near city areas, I'm sure with a couple of friends you'd easily managed to set up your own houses.
I seriously doubt it'd be possible to kill someone crafting in an NPC city and if you're not crafting in those you should have adequate protection from guild/allies when doing anything costly.
I keep seeing the comment - a few carebears....go play something else.
One part of that is true - they do go off and play a mainstream game.
The part that isn't correct is "few". in fact it's the other way round. The pvp guys who don't mind gear drops are in fact the minority in the west.
By the sound of it, this game looks ideal for that type of player. I expect certain players will love it, a niche game for a minortiy of people. There's nothing wrong with that - if it doesn't stifle ongoing development and support funds for the western market.
i could be wrong but i dont see anything that states theres goin to be Gear drops. i did read something about REFINDED BUILDING MATS AND THAT OBJECT THAT ALOWS YOU TO CAPTURE LAND can be taken but nothing else. the refined building mats are needed to build homes and vilages. the RARE mats are safe in your bags. its almost like you only saw the words KILLED, ITEM, DROP. take a zanax and relax. im very happy that theres a lvl of RISK coming to a MMO. im so sick of all these pussy ass games that coddle its players. if this isent your cup of vodka then there are PLENTY of dumbed down MMOs out there you can play. RIFT/WOW just to name a couple. i for one dont want to play another single player MMORPG
Read again
i just did. did i miss something that you read? if you dont mind could you post where it says you will drop gear?
Read carefully, or get someone to read it for you. You have gear/stuff/kit/belongings/(insert-word-here) or whatever you pedantically want to call it. You have gained this through effort. Someone (or probably more like a camping group knowing how open pvp works) comes along and takes it. - summary is below
your stuff---->pvpgank----->their stuff.
Yep mmo history is overwhelmed by western successes using this format. Let me count them....finished
Ok just verified. There is no full loot PvP as of CBT3 and doesn't look like it ever will have full loot. it's just the refined building materials, territory items, and special items to sell to vendors that can be dropped and taken through PvP.
I keep seeing the comment - a few carebears....go play something else.
One part of that is true - they do go off and play a mainstream game.
The part that isn't correct is "few". in fact it's the other way round. The pvp guys who don't mind gear drops are in fact the minority in the west.
By the sound of it, this game looks ideal for that type of player. I expect certain players will love it, a niche game for a minortiy of people. There's nothing wrong with that - if it doesn't stifle ongoing development and support funds for the western market.
i could be wrong but i dont see anything that states theres goin to be Gear drops. i did read something about REFINDED BUILDING MATS AND THAT OBJECT THAT ALOWS YOU TO CAPTURE LAND can be taken but nothing else. the refined building mats are needed to build homes and vilages. the RARE mats are safe in your bags. its almost like you only saw the words KILLED, ITEM, DROP. take a zanax and relax. im very happy that theres a lvl of RISK coming to a MMO. im so sick of all these pussy ass games that coddle its players. if this isent your cup of vodka then there are PLENTY of dumbed down MMOs out there you can play. RIFT/WOW just to name a couple. i for one dont want to play another single player MMORPG
Read again
i just did. did i miss something that you read? if you dont mind could you post where it says you will drop gear?
Read carefully, or get someone to read it for you. You have gear/stuff/kit/belongings/(insert-word-here) or whatever you pedantically want to call it. You have gained this through effort. Someone (or probably more like a camping group knowing how open pvp works) comes along and takes it. - summary is below
your stuff---->pvpgank----->their stuff.
Yep mmo history is overwhelmed by western successes using this format. Let me count them....finished
you dont lose gear, or anything else thats actually in your inventory
THE ONLY thing that can be lost to PVP is cores to build castles or the refined housing building stuff.... because those items are not in your inventory.
It's a fair compromise seeing as how the endgame in this game is supposed to be about controlling territory and land through pvp... if you cant handle the aspects that are neccesary for this ENDGAME gameplay tyhen this game isnt for you.... becuas ethe endgame is obviously the most important part of an mmo (its what will keep subs active).
"I will Turn your name into a synonym for weakness"
I keep seeing the comment - a few carebears....go play something else.
One part of that is true - they do go off and play a mainstream game.
The part that isn't correct is "few". in fact it's the other way round. The pvp guys who don't mind gear drops are in fact the minority in the west.
By the sound of it, this game looks ideal for that type of player. I expect certain players will love it, a niche game for a minortiy of people. There's nothing wrong with that - if it doesn't stifle ongoing development and support funds for the western market.
i could be wrong but i dont see anything that states theres goin to be Gear drops. i did read something about REFINDED BUILDING MATS AND THAT OBJECT THAT ALOWS YOU TO CAPTURE LAND can be taken but nothing else. the refined building mats are needed to build homes and vilages. the RARE mats are safe in your bags. its almost like you only saw the words KILLED, ITEM, DROP. take a zanax and relax. im very happy that theres a lvl of RISK coming to a MMO. im so sick of all these pussy ass games that coddle its players. if this isent your cup of vodka then there are PLENTY of dumbed down MMOs out there you can play. RIFT/WOW just to name a couple. i for one dont want to play another single player MMORPG
Read again
i just did. did i miss something that you read? if you dont mind could you post where it says you will drop gear?
Read carefully, or get someone to read it for you. You have gear/stuff/kit/belongings/(insert-word-here) or whatever you pedantically want to call it. You have gained this through effort. Someone (or probably more like a camping group knowing how open pvp works) comes along and takes it. - summary is below
your stuff---->pvpgank----->their stuff.
Yep mmo history is overwhelmed by western successes using this format. Let me count them....finished
now i know your full of shit. all i asked was for you to eather link or tell me where to look for the into you said states that getting killed by a player will alow them to loot your person. ANYTHING OFF your person in your inventory. and your telling me to do my own research and to read better lol. all the artical said was those items that you have to carry on your back are subject to being taken. refined building supplies, items to captuer land, or wierd items that sell for a ton of cash back to the vendors. no where that i read said anything about player looting like your refering to - taking mats/gear/weapons out of your inventory - so now ill ask you again, please LINK or at the very least tell me where you read this info that makes you think what your think. otherwise just take your loss, admit your just making shit up and move along. because at this time your not providing any facts, just spculations on your inturpretation of information.
Ok just verified. There is no full loot PvP as of CBT3 and doesn't look like it ever will have full loot. it's just the refined building materials, territory items, and special items to sell to vendors that can be dropped and taken through PvP.
thats what iv been trying to tell this guy but he keeps yelling RAT in a crowded resturant. and its because of people this him, that others may take his words for truth and mislead others into beliving his unfounded views. just because someone yells RAT doesent mean there are any. a word of advice to anyone looking into AA. do some reseach of your own. really poke around and see whats what. there are some great fan sites out there that provide some really good info.
I honestly don't plan to build on the 3rd continent at all. I'd rather take my guild and destroy guild cities that are built there over and over again. Once it's established that we can destroy their towns I'll start giving them the option of paying us to leave them alone.
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You are guessing on how this will be based on Lineage 2, but that's looking not to be the case.
On the 2 continents, as I keep saying in this thread, only your own faction will cause you to drop 'bloods' when you are PKed. You hand these bloods in to have them 'put in gaol'. Too much of this and the PK goes red.
Reds and the other faction will be able to gank you senseless 24/7 wherever you are without consequence (and very probable gain).
The only difference with the thrid continent is that your own faction can also attack you with impunity.
Thats how it was a few months ago anyhow, I haven't been following new developments recently due to interest waning after reading posts by the folks following this game already.
Another eastern mmo that doesn't understand the large percentage of western gamer mentality. A few instances of gear robbing followed by the players reaction of "sod this for a game of soldiers" .
Sounds like a game that will attract a minority of people here, probably the disaffected Aion bunch of gankers, zerg fillers and low level griefers.
Yup pretty much another Sandbox that thinks there "HAS" to be PvP in order to be good. See my sig for reference. One less title I'll be looking forward too.
GIVE ME A SANDBOX PvE MMO DAMNIT!!!!!!!!!!!
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We need more unique MMORPGs, if that means that a few carebears will QQ and go play another generic single player mmo, that's great for me.
You don't drop equipment, mats or anything if you aren't trying to build something.
You can also play safe on the first 2 continents, where PVP is much less likely to happen, there are tons of guards and players of the same faction.
Seriously, some sandbox elements and you already have carebears scraming Darkfall.
How can they DARE add a bit of PVP in a game.
"Guildmates cooperating? you are crazy! that has never happened in any mmo, at least not in the first mmo ever made, WOW.Pfff, social interaction in an online game, LOL"
"Esport with tournaments is for hardcore pvp'rs that want to be competitive. Openworld PVP with ganking and griefing is for casuals that just wants their pvp mixed with pve from time to time."
otacu
Yup pretty much another Sandbox that thinks there "HAS" to be PvP in order to be good. See my sig for reference. One less title I'll be looking forward too.
GIVE ME A SANDBOX PvE MMO DAMNIT!!!!!!!!!!!
What you want is a PVE only sandbox MMO.
ArcheAge also has PVE, the PVE with more features since Ultima Online.
I think you are overreacting, we don't know almost nothing about this.
But yeah... if you expected 0 PVP no matter what... this isn't the game you are looking for."Esport with tournaments is for hardcore pvp'rs that want to be competitive. Openworld PVP with ganking and griefing is for casuals that just wants their pvp mixed with pve from time to time."
otacu
I keep seeing the comment - a few carebears....go play something else.
One part of that is true - they do go off and play a mainstream game.
The part that isn't correct is "few". in fact it's the other way round. The pvp guys who don't mind gear drops are in fact the minority in the west.
By the sound of it, this game looks ideal for that type of player. I expect certain players will love it, a niche game for a minortiy of people. There's nothing wrong with that - if it doesn't stifle ongoing development and support funds for the western market.
People tend to forget with these kinds of games that not every other player is a PK. The potential is there, sure; they can attack you or anyone else at anytime.
Thinking back to my UO days though, there were plenty of "good" players as there were PK.
There will be griefing, but just as much, players will find 'safe' routes on the third continent, and protect each other.
***
I'm trying to temper my enthusiasm, but this fresh info sounds amazing.
i could be wrong but i dont see anything that states theres goin to be Gear drops. i did read something about REFINDED BUILDING MATS AND THAT OBJECT THAT ALOWS YOU TO CAPTURE LAND can be taken but nothing else. the refined building mats are needed to build homes and vilages. the RARE mats are safe in your bags. its almost like you only saw the words KILLED, ITEM, DROP. take a zanax and relax. im very happy that theres a lvl of RISK coming to a MMO. im so sick of all these pussy ass games that coddle its players. if this isent your cup of vodka then there are PLENTY of dumbed down MMOs out there you can play. RIFT/WOW just to name a couple. i for one dont want to play another single player MMORPG
Read again
i just did. did i miss something that you read? if you dont mind could you post where it says you will drop gear?
Seems interesting, but I can see alot of people camping out waiting for the crafter players in order to snag thier stuff.
I mean even in the linked source the translator says that his guild will be waiting to PK the crafters because its *alot less work*
That implys that refining the materials in order to make a claim is a long process, therefore it encourages the PK's to just not bother and try to steal someone elses work.
All fine in theroy but it means that any crafter who's not in a large guild and will have alot of support moving his claim to location is SOL. The rewards for PKing in this instance seem to far out wiegh the risks involved and the bigger PK guilds will always be on the hunt for anyone carrying a claim. Its basically become a *kill me please* flag.
Now if the *Claim* item was unusable for a period of time after an ownership change (Ie a chance for the original makers to reclaim it) I could support it more fully. ATM it appears that they can grab the claim and immediatly use it. Make an ownership change incur a lockdown and have them defend it for a period (with all the slow movement restrictions etc) and I can see the risk Vs reward balancing out more, since the victims could call in support and that PK clan would have to fight to keep thier stolen boootie.
the true risk is trying to build on the 3rd continent. there are penelties for pking in this game. something about being hunted by npcs i think. theres a risk for being a pirate but its another way to play the game i guess. theres still a ton of info that needs to come out so some of this info is dripping out atm. the homesteds on the 2 main continents are near major cities so the risk of being pked small. like i said its that 3rd, contested continent that all the craziness happens in. well just have to wait for more info.
I've been looking everywhere for info saying ArcheAge has full loot PvP. It doesn't say that anywhere. The only looting it talks about is in the case of special items that sell for a lot of money to NPC vendors, refined building materials, and the item that lets you claim territory.
My theme song.
Seems to be a lot of speculation going-ons in the forum as of yet. It's hard to actually tell if all of this is really going on or not... I'm all for a more competitive climate but I can see why some ...lesser hard-core gamers might drop the ball early. If XL Games wishes to cater both audiences they might want to reconsider the heavy penalty on ownership and emphasize more on the PK-system.
You've completely taken the text out of context.
The person waiting to gank is with his guild on the 3rd continent waiting for city 'shard' holders to come. This is a lot different from camping people crafting and then killing them. It should be obvious only the largest and most powerful guilds will control any substantial area on this continent and they will have to fight for their land.
As for building on the normal continents it's already been said it's alot safer to build near city areas, I'm sure with a couple of friends you'd easily managed to set up your own houses.
I seriously doubt it'd be possible to kill someone crafting in an NPC city and if you're not crafting in those you should have adequate protection from guild/allies when doing anything costly.
Read carefully, or get someone to read it for you. You have gear/stuff/kit/belongings/(insert-word-here) or whatever you pedantically want to call it. You have gained this through effort. Someone (or probably more like a camping group knowing how open pvp works) comes along and takes it. - summary is below
your stuff---->pvpgank----->their stuff.
Yep mmo history is overwhelmed by western successes using this format. Let me count them....finished
Ok just verified. There is no full loot PvP as of CBT3 and doesn't look like it ever will have full loot. it's just the refined building materials, territory items, and special items to sell to vendors that can be dropped and taken through PvP.
My theme song.
you dont lose gear, or anything else thats actually in your inventory
THE ONLY thing that can be lost to PVP is cores to build castles or the refined housing building stuff.... because those items are not in your inventory.
It's a fair compromise seeing as how the endgame in this game is supposed to be about controlling territory and land through pvp... if you cant handle the aspects that are neccesary for this ENDGAME gameplay tyhen this game isnt for you.... becuas ethe endgame is obviously the most important part of an mmo (its what will keep subs active).
"I will Turn your name into a synonym for weakness"
now i know your full of shit. all i asked was for you to eather link or tell me where to look for the into you said states that getting killed by a player will alow them to loot your person. ANYTHING OFF your person in your inventory. and your telling me to do my own research and to read better lol. all the artical said was those items that you have to carry on your back are subject to being taken. refined building supplies, items to captuer land, or wierd items that sell for a ton of cash back to the vendors. no where that i read said anything about player looting like your refering to - taking mats/gear/weapons out of your inventory - so now ill ask you again, please LINK or at the very least tell me where you read this info that makes you think what your think. otherwise just take your loss, admit your just making shit up and move along. because at this time your not providing any facts, just spculations on your inturpretation of information.
thats what iv been trying to tell this guy but he keeps yelling RAT in a crowded resturant. and its because of people this him, that others may take his words for truth and mislead others into beliving his unfounded views. just because someone yells RAT doesent mean there are any. a word of advice to anyone looking into AA. do some reseach of your own. really poke around and see whats what. there are some great fan sites out there that provide some really good info.
I honestly don't plan to build on the 3rd continent at all. I'd rather take my guild and destroy guild cities that are built there over and over again. Once it's established that we can destroy their towns I'll start giving them the option of paying us to leave them alone.
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