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Seems there is no item tracking.

http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/69267-prominence.html

 

PP being another thing in the TC patch that is bugged and need to be tweaked.  It seems Henrik also admitted that items are not tracked.

 


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There are a lot of room for surpluce balances on resources etc yes.

This will probably take a while as well untill we think it is in a proper balance since it is not easy at all. Also since each thing takes different time to get in the game, which is pretty hard for us to use, since we can mostly look on what you are getting right now, that do gives us somewhat wrong balance value on PP sale. Your feedback on different things are appreciated since we intend to further balance these values along the road. We thought it would be safer to start out on a slow Surpluce gain than to fast.


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So, basically you just said you can't track items? Not even at the core of the game? To not have logic and understanding within the code of every item and at least a relative drop % is why you never recognize a dupe until the community makes a video or causes a complete fuss about it.


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  • GMTheiaGMTheia Member Posts: 204

    Originally posted by darthturtle1

    http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/69267-prominence.html

     

    PP being another thing in the TC patch that is bugged and need to be tweaked.  It seems Henrik also admitted that items are not tracked.

     


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    There are a lot of room for surpluce balances on resources etc yes.

    This will probably take a while as well untill we think it is in a proper balance since it is not easy at all. Also since each thing takes different time to get in the game, which is pretty hard for us to use, since we can mostly look on what you are getting right now, that do gives us somewhat wrong balance value on PP sale. Your feedback on different things are appreciated since we intend to further balance these values along the road. We thought it would be safer to start out on a slow Surpluce gain than to fast.


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    So, basically you just said you can't track items? Not even at the core of the game? To not have logic and understanding within the code of every item and at least a relative drop % is why you never recognize a dupe until the community makes a video or causes a complete fuss about it.


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    I don't think that's what he said. I've already spoken about some of the tools we now have on this board.

    As well as the asset stripping from ...dupers.

    With the many, many items that can be handed in for PP he is asking for feedback/suggestions - he of course gets this from the Dev Team, Support Team and the Focus Group - it's nice he's asking the wider community. 

    Thank you 

     

     

     

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  • ToferioToferio Member UncommonPosts: 1,411

    Theia, note that when you reply you are not supposed to write in the quote window, but below, makes reading it easier (it can be a bit tricky, mmorpg text editor is bit weird) :)

  • username509username509 Member CommonPosts: 635

     Not really.   His reply was in bright bright green while the quote was not.  

    Never trust a screenshot or a youtube video without a version stamp!

  • ToferioToferio Member UncommonPosts: 1,411

    Originally posted by username509

     Not really.   His reply was in bright bright green while the quote was not.  

    Him using attention grabbing color (to put it in a nice way) is no excuse to screw up formatting :P

  • ltankltank Member UncommonPosts: 293

    Originally posted by Toferio

    Originally posted by username509

     Not really.   His reply was in bright bright green while the quote was not.  

    Him using attention grabbing color (to put it in a nice way) is no excuse to screw up formatting :P

    Who really cares? You were able to read it.

  • TalonsinTalonsin Member EpicPosts: 3,619

    Originally posted by GMTheia

    I don't think that's what he said. I've already spoken about some of the tools we now have on this board.

    As well as the asset stripping from ...dupers.

    With the many, many items that can be handed in for PP he is asking for feedback/suggestions - he of course gets this from the Dev Team, Support Team and the Focus Group - it's nice he's asking the wider community. 

    Thank you 

    I'm confused, are you saying you did NOT have a way to track items before?  You specifically said "tools we have now" and even Henrik makes it seem these tools are all new to SV.

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  • darthturtle1darthturtle1 Member Posts: 208

    Originally posted by Talonsin

    Originally posted by GMTheia

    I don't think that's what he said. I've already spoken about some of the tools we now have on this board.

    As well as the asset stripping from ...dupers.

    With the many, many items that can be handed in for PP he is asking for feedback/suggestions - he of course gets this from the Dev Team, Support Team and the Focus Group - it's nice he's asking the wider community. 

    Thank you 

    I'm confused, are you saying you did NOT have a way to track items before?  You specifically said "tools we have now" and even Henrik makes it seem these tools are all new to SV.

    That is my point they have talked about new tools a couple times now.  How are these new tools finding old stockpiles of duped gold?  Also how are these tools going to delete legitimate items and property bought with duped materials and gold.  There are still keeps standing in game bought with duped gold.

  • argiropargirop Member UncommonPosts: 300

    Originally posted by username509

     Not really.   His reply was in bright bright green while the quote was not.  

    That bright green hurts my eyes for sure...

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,710

    Originally posted by GMTheia

    Originally posted by darthturtle1

    http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/69267-prominence.html

     

    PP being another thing in the TC patch that is bugged and need to be tweaked.  It seems Henrik also admitted that items are not tracked.

     


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    There are a lot of room for surpluce balances on resources etc yes.

    This will probably take a while as well untill we think it is in a proper balance since it is not easy at all. Also since each thing takes different time to get in the game, which is pretty hard for us to use, since we can mostly look on what you are getting right now, that do gives us somewhat wrong balance value on PP sale. Your feedback on different things are appreciated since we intend to further balance these values along the road. We thought it would be safer to start out on a slow Surpluce gain than to fast.


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    So, basically you just said you can't track items? Not even at the core of the game? To not have logic and understanding within the code of every item and at least a relative drop % is why you never recognize a dupe until the community makes a video or causes a complete fuss about it.


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    I don't think that's what he said. I've already spoken about some of the tools we now have on this board.

    As well as the asset stripping from ...dupers.

    With the many, many items that can be handed in for PP he is asking for feedback/suggestions - he of course gets this from the Dev Team, Support Team and the Focus Group - it's nice he's asking the wider community. 

    Thank you 

     

     

     Would it not be better to simply  make this function like an economy is supposed to function?  The more frequently something is turned in, the less it is worth.  The rarer items would then be worth more.  This is basic economics.  Asking people to vote is probably not the best method for forming an economic base... and that is essentially what is happening here...

     But that's just me.... 

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  • ExilorExilor Member Posts: 391

    What does "surpluce" mean? I can't find it in my dictionary or in wikipedia.

  • ltankltank Member UncommonPosts: 293

    Originally posted by Exilor

    What does "surpluce" mean? I can't find it in my dictionary or in wikipedia.

    I believe it's "Swenglish" for Surplus.

  • GMTheiaGMTheia Member Posts: 204

    Originally posted by Exilor

    What does "surpluce" mean? I can't find it in my dictionary or in wikipedia.

    It is Swenglish for 'surplus' ...  Remember English isn't their first language in Sweden.  I've linked the wikki page about Sweden so you can see where it is on the map.  So we see a lot of these sorts of typos coming from the team - their spoken English is prefect.  But they keep Martialis and I busy re-writing things.  Henrik can and does post for himself - so you will still see a little bit of this. 

     

    Thanks for taking the time to point that out to us! 

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  • ToferioToferio Member UncommonPosts: 1,411

    Originally posted by GMTheia

    Originally posted by Exilor

    What does "surpluce" mean? I can't find it in my dictionary or in wikipedia.

    It is Swenglish for 'surplus' ...  Remember English isn't their first language in Sweden.  I've linked the wikki page about Sweden so you can see where it is on the map.  So we see a lot of these sorts of typos coming from the team - their spoken English is prefect.  But they keep Martialis and I busy re-writing things.  Henrik can and does post for himself - so you will still see a little bit of this. 

     

    Thanks for taking the time to point that out to us! 

    You know, there is this simple addon for most browsers called spellcheck.. underlines all your typos with fat red lines. Maybe something for the SV team? Beyond me how they manage to avoid using it.

    (Shame it doesn't work on mmorpg thou:S)

  • GMTheiaGMTheia Member Posts: 204

    hehe - good point!

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