All games published by EA will be linked to Origin. If anyone thinks SW: TOR wont be you're dreaming. As for them banning people from all of the games that they have bought just for getting a little rowdy on the forums I see a lot of class action law suits in EAs future. Should be interesting to watch to say the least.
Will I require an Origin account in addition to a SWTOR account?
Yes, you will require an active Origin account in addition to a Star Wars: The Old Republic account. You can create a new Origin account by going to the Origin Account Registration page, entering your email address in the appropriate space and clicking “Start my EA Profile.” This will take you to a screen where you can create your EA Master ID and set your password. You can also start a new Origin account by logging in with either your Facebook or PlayStation Network accounts, or by downloading and running the Origin client for the first time.
Read the fine print " All SWTOR account emails will be linked to Origin" Is what it said when I entered my pre order code before I cancelled the the pre order.
If you noticed, Bioware doesn't have a payment method in the account panel.... SO will assume , ASSUME, it is going to be paid through Origin.
i bouught through origin but im downloading from an email bioware sent me. so even though i bought the game through origin im not using it to install the client. Your account is tied to swtor.com not origin.
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I was reaing another forum and it seems that EA has been banning actual Origin accounts for an violation of a ToS or EULA. What does that mean ?
Lets say you hav your BF3 account tied on your same origin account as your brand new SWtOR collectors edition. One day in BF3 server and you you get hacked up like swiss cheese by some lame dude with aimbot. You head over to the official forums, rant up a storm, using foul language, and bam, you are banned from the forum. Guess what, they didnt ban you from just that forum, they have banned from your origin account. Any games tied to that account that uses online authorizatoin is unuseable.
When I bought my pre order through origina, I really didnt think that through, so that was yet another momumental thing that lead me to cancel.
The fact that almost all SWTOR will have to eventually be pushed into Origin is a little scary to me,
What do you thing the EA + Origin ='s to ?
I've been playing mmo's and online games for a little over 10 years now and I've never once got myself banned. I don't see why this is a big deal. There are rules, you don't follow, you suffer consequences. Although, I really don't think you're correct here. The account is still through SWTOR, can't see it banning you from all games. But like I said, should be a non-issue for most who can control themselves.
I think EA will force it, they have done so in the past, and they will be overwhelmed with the ability to push this onto millions of players at one time when SWTOR launches. THe margin of profit is simply to high to not do it,
If they force orgin onto the players, what will be the outcome ?
EA + Origin = Who Cares...
If EA wants their own little steam like client they can create it. Steam does the same thing with VAC bans. If you're going to be angry and hate filled or a cheater then you should be banned. Too many people feel safe saying or doing whatever they want on the net. If you don't like what a company does then don't agree to their EULA/TOS. But when you do that you can't play their game either.
And technically, when you buy a game, you are only buying the lisence to play the game, not the actual copy of softwarre.
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I think EA will force it, they have done so in the past, and they will be overwhelmed with the ability to push this onto millions of players at one time when SWTOR launches. THe margin of profit is simply to high to not do it,
If they force orgin onto the players, what will be the outcome ?
EA + Origin = Who Cares...
If EA wants their own little steam like client they can create it. Steam does the same thing with VAC bans. If you're going to be angry and hate filled or a cheater then you should be banned. Too many people feel safe saying or doing whatever they want on the net. If you don't like what a company does then don't agree to their EULA/TOS. But when you do that you can't play their game either.
And technically, when you buy a game, you are only buying the lisence to play the game, not the actual copy of softwarre.
If you get banned from the Steam forums you don't lose all of the games you bought through them. You have to be caught hacking or otherwise violating the EULA of a game to get that level of ban. Their forum accounts and their game accounts are handled totally seperately. I'm not saying the OP is correct but if he is it should be quite a show once the class action law suits start flying.
So be careful what you say on EA forums from now on, you are warned.
I don't think those who don't break any rules and try to start trouble for sake of it got anything to worry about.
according to the article, no. Even perfectly normal guys that did not break any rules (unless you count someone insulting you as breaking a rule) got banned.
Maybe they are all lying, but the evidence against EA is quite mounting right now. There is also a long thread at the Escapist about it, not to speak of Destructoid and even the Examiner all picking up the story.
Usually if someone insults you it is always best to report the post aad not insult him / her back. As long as heated discussion stays till game and not get personal it is fine. So yeah it is breaking the rules if you re taliate in similar manner. in such a case both people get a ban or warning.
How many servers SWTOR will launch with on release?
ShredderSE - Umm how many do they need? Maybe 6. US, EU, Asian, France, German and Russian. Subs will be so low there is no need for more Snoocky-How many servers? The first 3 months a lot...after that 2 i guess, one for PVE and 1 for PVP...
Thorbrand - SWTOR doesn't have longevity at all. Might be one of the shortest lived MMOs.
It can be hard as hell to get companies to help you even recover your passwords. I Lost so many games on steam and MMORPG companies and only companies that ever eventually gave me my accounts back where blizzard and NCSoft ( 5 months of run around via email, finnally decided to try phone support and got help right away)
FYI Seems like NCsoft is one of the few companies that actually helps you via phone, unfortunately thier email support is useless like everyone elses i delt with. I never had to call blizzard though since they actually helped me via email when my account got stolen twice and when my dial -in auth phone number got disabled they helped me right away via email.
So yeah i am kind of hesitent to keep all my eggs in one basket if you know what i mean.
There's this amazing thing in the world. It's given out for free, can be tricky to use at first and is definitely not always the most satisfying option.
It 100% completely negates any chance of an Origin account EVER getting banned by EA.
It's called Self-Control.
No matter what internet-drama story you want to come up with, theres always still the much more valid, EULA-abiding side of just being the better person and not devolving down to bannable-troll levels.
So someone aimbotted or called you a name, or some other petty grievance. Well, use the in-game reporting tools, or more over, the Not-A-Public-Forum reporting tools or e-mail address' that just about every game and company has.
Wanting to go rage on the forums is like barreling your car into a mall to scream for police that someone just stole your wallet. There's always a better way to go about the same thing without resorting to any self-righteous or attention-grabbing stunts.
And say someone does try to sue for denying access, it probably won't be a broad enough issue for class-action. Besides, those trials records would be amazing to read or watch. I can see it now:
"You were banned for making inappropriate posts to a forum, correct?"
"Yes your honor"
"Now, would you please explain to the jury and the court why you felt you needed to call Company X the following 2 page list of over 40 unique vulgarities and ethnic slurs, while knowing your were posting on a private forum?"
Because that's the thing. Do you want to spend your money to get a lawyer, goto court, then have to answer that question while sworn under oath? You can sue, but they can defend and counter-sue just as easily.
Lets Push Things Forward
I knew I would live to design games at age 7, issue 5 of Nintendo Power.
Support games with subs when you believe in their potential, even in spite of their flaws.
So be careful what you say on EA forums from now on, you are warned.
I don't think those who don't break any rules and try to start trouble for sake of it got anything to worry about.
according to the article, no. Even perfectly normal guys that did not break any rules (unless you count someone insulting you as breaking a rule) got banned.
Maybe they are all lying, but the evidence against EA is quite mounting right now. There is also a long thread at the Escapist about it, not to speak of Destructoid and even the Examiner all picking up the story.
Usually if someone insults you it is always best to report the post aad not insult him / her back. As long as heated discussion stays till game and not get personal it is fine. So yeah it is breaking the rules if you re taliate in similar manner. in such a case both people get a ban or warning.
buuuut he never got that far. Because he was banned before he could answer in any way to those insults.
So To recap: Guy post on EA forum, someone else answer insulting him. The Guy gets banned. He lose access to ALL EA games.
Yes, i understand now but i hope it is an isolated incident and not a norm. After all, EA will also lose a lot of potential customers if cases like these happen frequently and i doubt they would want matters like this to escalate. I am always cautious when i visit Origina / EA forums, but if i am unlucky what has to happen will happen.
How many servers SWTOR will launch with on release?
ShredderSE - Umm how many do they need? Maybe 6. US, EU, Asian, France, German and Russian. Subs will be so low there is no need for more Snoocky-How many servers? The first 3 months a lot...after that 2 i guess, one for PVE and 1 for PVP...
Thorbrand - SWTOR doesn't have longevity at all. Might be one of the shortest lived MMOs.
I always believed punishment should be proportional to the offense. It seems EA takes it one step further. Regardless of how I feel about asinine behavior online, that is just dumb.
Then again their house their rules. It's just another reason not to buy anything EA related. It's funny how software pirates doesn't have to deal with this stuff
I was reaing another forum and it seems that EA has been banning actual Origin accounts for an violation of a ToS or EULA. What does that mean ?
Lets say you hav your BF3 account tied on your same origin account as your brand new SWtOR collectors edition. One day in BF3 server and you you get hacked up like swiss cheese by some lame dude with aimbot. You head over to the official forums, rant up a storm, using foul language, and bam, you are banned from the forum. Guess what, they didnt ban you from just that forum, they have banned from your origin account. Any games tied to that account that uses online authorizatoin is unuseable.
When I bought my pre order through origina, I really didnt think that through, so that was yet another momumental thing that lead me to cancel.
The fact that almost all SWTOR will have to eventually be pushed into Origin is a little scary to me,
What do you thing the EA + Origin ='s to ?
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If your account is hacked, then it's probably best if they shut down access across accounts until it's fixed.
The amount of times it's due to a keylogger, or the like, is very large and those tend to get all accounts and passwords. As such, they are helping protect players from losing all their stuff across games which can take weeks to get straightened out -AND- come back to bite the player if they missed one that they hadn't played in a while.
A central account system means the list can be sent and you then can clean your system, change all the passwords and get back to gaming more quickly and cleanly.
If it's banned for EULA issues - no sympathy. Exercise some self control, develop manners and/or don't cheat at the games to get you banned. Someone that is an ass-hat in one game, tends to be so across their games and those types of players aren't needed.
Upside: Better protection if you are hacked and the ability to cleanly fix the problems across games, in 1 shot - then get back to gaming with all those "hacked!" problems corrected.
Downside of this? Someone can't be a cheat or jerk in a game. They'll need to be more polite plus follow the rules or the penalties will be across the games.
I doubt most will miss the mouths and cheats that keep showing up across games. It may be fun for those doing so but it tends to ruin gaming for many others. Long term: They help get rid of those players that cost the game companies customers and impove those players gaming experience.
I want to make sure everyone is on the same page here with how Steam handles Vac bans.
No, forum bans will not lead to a Vac ban just because you got a forum ban.
No, I've never seen any "rage" get anyone Vac Banned
Yes, if you are Vac banned in one game, you are Vac banned in all games that use Vac on that account requing you to play in non Vac servers, which are usually aimbot festivals.
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I lol'd and damn near spit my coffee all over the screen and board here at work
Well played sir
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All games published by EA will be linked to Origin. If anyone thinks SW: TOR wont be you're dreaming. As for them banning people from all of the games that they have bought just for getting a little rowdy on the forums I see a lot of class action law suits in EAs future. Should be interesting to watch to say the least.
Edit: Straight from the game faq at SWTOR.COM...
Will I require an Origin account in addition to a SWTOR account?
Yes, you will require an active Origin account in addition to a Star Wars: The Old Republic account. You can create a new Origin account by going to the Origin Account Registration page, entering your email address in the appropriate space and clicking “Start my EA Profile.” This will take you to a screen where you can create your EA Master ID and set your password. You can also start a new Origin account by logging in with either your Facebook or PlayStation Network accounts, or by downloading and running the Origin client for the first time.
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i bouught through origin but im downloading from an email bioware sent me. so even though i bought the game through origin im not using it to install the client. Your account is tied to swtor.com not origin.
Don't violate the rules and you won't have a problem.
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John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"
I've been playing mmo's and online games for a little over 10 years now and I've never once got myself banned. I don't see why this is a big deal. There are rules, you don't follow, you suffer consequences. Although, I really don't think you're correct here. The account is still through SWTOR, can't see it banning you from all games. But like I said, should be a non-issue for most who can control themselves.
EA + Origin = Who Cares...
If EA wants their own little steam like client they can create it. Steam does the same thing with VAC bans. If you're going to be angry and hate filled or a cheater then you should be banned. Too many people feel safe saying or doing whatever they want on the net. If you don't like what a company does then don't agree to their EULA/TOS. But when you do that you can't play their game either.
And technically, when you buy a game, you are only buying the lisence to play the game, not the actual copy of softwarre.
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If you get banned from the Steam forums you don't lose all of the games you bought through them. You have to be caught hacking or otherwise violating the EULA of a game to get that level of ban. Their forum accounts and their game accounts are handled totally seperately. I'm not saying the OP is correct but if he is it should be quite a show once the class action law suits start flying.
Bren
while(horse==dead)
{
beat();
}
Usually if someone insults you it is always best to report the post aad not insult him / her back. As long as heated discussion stays till game and not get personal it is fine. So yeah it is breaking the rules if you re taliate in similar manner. in such a case both people get a ban or warning.
How many servers SWTOR will launch with on release?
ShredderSE - Umm how many do they need? Maybe 6.
US, EU, Asian, France, German and Russian.
Subs will be so low there is no need for more
Snoocky-How many servers?
The first 3 months a lot...after that 2 i guess, one for PVE and 1 for PVP...
Thorbrand - SWTOR doesn't have longevity at all. Might be one of the shortest lived MMOs.
It can be hard as hell to get companies to help you even recover your passwords. I Lost so many games on steam and MMORPG companies and only companies that ever eventually gave me my accounts back where blizzard and NCSoft ( 5 months of run around via email, finnally decided to try phone support and got help right away)
FYI Seems like NCsoft is one of the few companies that actually helps you via phone, unfortunately thier email support is useless like everyone elses i delt with. I never had to call blizzard though since they actually helped me via email when my account got stolen twice and when my dial -in auth phone number got disabled they helped me right away via email.
So yeah i am kind of hesitent to keep all my eggs in one basket if you know what i mean.
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EA + Origin = Where I bought SWTOR and BF3.
There's this amazing thing in the world. It's given out for free, can be tricky to use at first and is definitely not always the most satisfying option.
It 100% completely negates any chance of an Origin account EVER getting banned by EA.
It's called Self-Control.
No matter what internet-drama story you want to come up with, theres always still the much more valid, EULA-abiding side of just being the better person and not devolving down to bannable-troll levels.
So someone aimbotted or called you a name, or some other petty grievance. Well, use the in-game reporting tools, or more over, the Not-A-Public-Forum reporting tools or e-mail address' that just about every game and company has.
Wanting to go rage on the forums is like barreling your car into a mall to scream for police that someone just stole your wallet. There's always a better way to go about the same thing without resorting to any self-righteous or attention-grabbing stunts.
And say someone does try to sue for denying access, it probably won't be a broad enough issue for class-action. Besides, those trials records would be amazing to read or watch. I can see it now:
"You were banned for making inappropriate posts to a forum, correct?"
"Yes your honor"
"Now, would you please explain to the jury and the court why you felt you needed to call Company X the following 2 page list of over 40 unique vulgarities and ethnic slurs, while knowing your were posting on a private forum?"
Because that's the thing. Do you want to spend your money to get a lawyer, goto court, then have to answer that question while sworn under oath? You can sue, but they can defend and counter-sue just as easily.
Lets Push Things Forward
I knew I would live to design games at age 7, issue 5 of Nintendo Power.
Support games with subs when you believe in their potential, even in spite of their flaws.
buuuut he never got that far. Because he was banned before he could answer in any way to those insults.
So To recap: Guy post on EA forum, someone else answer insulting him. The Guy gets banned. He lose access to ALL EA games.
Now the situation is clear?
Rock paper shotgun link:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/12/05/ea-origin-bans-update-edition/
Destructoid:
http://www.destructoid.com/ea-will-ban-you-from-games-if-someone-else-swears-at-you-217219.phtml
Escapist thread (includes lots of links):
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.328868-EA-now-issuing-permanent-Origin-bans-through-content-filter?page=1
The examiner:
http://www.examiner.com/video-game-industry-in-national/origin-user-on-receiving-end-of-harassment-banned
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How many servers SWTOR will launch with on release?
ShredderSE - Umm how many do they need? Maybe 6.
US, EU, Asian, France, German and Russian.
Subs will be so low there is no need for more
Snoocky-How many servers?
The first 3 months a lot...after that 2 i guess, one for PVE and 1 for PVP...
Thorbrand - SWTOR doesn't have longevity at all. Might be one of the shortest lived MMOs.
Don't use official forums, lesson learned.
I always believed punishment should be proportional to the offense. It seems EA takes it one step further. Regardless of how I feel about asinine behavior online, that is just dumb.
Then again their house their rules. It's just another reason not to buy anything EA related. It's funny how software pirates doesn't have to deal with this stuff
Dont buy EA games problem solved:) And this is realy NO BRAINER:)
Hope to build full AMD system RYZEN/VEGA/AM4!!!
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CPU:Intell Icore7 3770k
GPU: AMD Fury X(waiting for BIG VEGA 10 or 11 HBM2?(bit unclear now))
MEMORY:Corsair PLAT.DDR3 1866MHZ 16GB
PSU:Corsair AX1200i
OS:Windows 10 64bit
If your account is hacked, then it's probably best if they shut down access across accounts until it's fixed.
The amount of times it's due to a keylogger, or the like, is very large and those tend to get all accounts and passwords. As such, they are helping protect players from losing all their stuff across games which can take weeks to get straightened out -AND- come back to bite the player if they missed one that they hadn't played in a while.
A central account system means the list can be sent and you then can clean your system, change all the passwords and get back to gaming more quickly and cleanly.
If it's banned for EULA issues - no sympathy. Exercise some self control, develop manners and/or don't cheat at the games to get you banned. Someone that is an ass-hat in one game, tends to be so across their games and those types of players aren't needed.
Upside: Better protection if you are hacked and the ability to cleanly fix the problems across games, in 1 shot - then get back to gaming with all those "hacked!" problems corrected.
Downside of this? Someone can't be a cheat or jerk in a game. They'll need to be more polite plus follow the rules or the penalties will be across the games.
I doubt most will miss the mouths and cheats that keep showing up across games. It may be fun for those doing so but it tends to ruin gaming for many others. Long term: They help get rid of those players that cost the game companies customers and impove those players gaming experience.
I really don't see any major downside to this.
Or, excercise what we adults call "self control".
I want to make sure everyone is on the same page here with how Steam handles Vac bans.
No, forum bans will not lead to a Vac ban just because you got a forum ban.
No, I've never seen any "rage" get anyone Vac Banned
Yes, if you are Vac banned in one game, you are Vac banned in all games that use Vac on that account requing you to play in non Vac servers, which are usually aimbot festivals.
s**t creek + paddling upstream = ?
So basicly you are worried that you won't be able to TROLL the forums ? Is that it really ? Grow up and stop using foul language in the Internetz xD