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Should I Give Up
tenthring
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I would appreciate if no one under the age of 25 comment here.
I've been out of MMOs for awhile. Haven't played since early WoW in college. I've been trying to make it on my own. Get the money, get the bitches, enjoy live, that's the goal. But sometimes I feel like I've capped out in upper middle class mediocrity.
The truth is, I'm smart but have a fucked up body. Its all messed up from birth, and it leads to a mediocrity socially and with women. Good enough to want to do better, bad enough to wonder if its worth trying. Sometimes I feel like just escaping into an MMO. Give up on doing well in live and just put in my 9-5 and make MMOs my life. I'm the best in MMOs, I'm always second best IRL. And second best sucks IRL, its an expoential function for rewards.
I know the high from MMOs isn't close to the highs IRL, but I wonder how many IRL highs I can really look forward too. Why bother? Should I just give up?
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Maybe you could do both, play mmos and join a gym to get the body you want. I doesnt have to be an either or scenario.
giving up real life and make mmos ur life wont fix ur problems, specially ur body that needs care, girls, sports, excersice, sun, beer, water, etc...
keep it up, and never give up. if u dont fight for what u want, it wont fall from the heavens right to ur room
MMO's are meant to be enjoyed. They will never make up for issues in your RL. So there is no reason for you not to play them, just don't expect anything more then a game.
Philosophy of MMO Game Design
Things in life are that they are life you can only escape reality for so long before other things around you start to get your interest in return. So ya play MMO's but only do so if you are not going to put your whole life into it because eventually if you keep doing that your going to pass up a lot of things.
You also say your body is screwed up but to me with a couple of my friends I don't know what you mean by a screwed up body so if you can elaborate just a little that would be helpful so more people can help you out.
Take up learning a musical instrument and join a band, become locally popular chicks dig it. A good buddy of mine has some deformaty from birth, ugly as sin, and short arms, but can play drums like a pro, his local band played the shit out of college parties, local bars and opening for national acts. He's gotten more girls than anyone I know personally just because he is confident and doesn't let his self esteem bring him down, even makes fun of his own defects. Now he is married to a very attractive woman, still plays his band on the side and has a great job. Just be confident and don't let societies norm bring you down. Games are a means of entertaintment, sure people drown their lives in them but is that how you want to live? Plus their isn't a damn game out there worth playing atm anyways unless you want to jump on the Tor bandwagon.
yeah kid... the truth is you do what you want with your life and BELIEVE you can do it without a doubt in your mind. DO what you love thats the basis of life! So work on your body, work on your goals and make and play MMOs man. YOu can do it and with women man... the one worth keep is the one that should accept you for who you are... in truth... FUCK BITCHES.... go for quality not quanity.
34 here, kids, wife.
I would not give up on life. If you want to make it either or...or you feel you have to, that decision is easy. Give up MMO's.
Life is all about growing. If youre not growing, you are dying.
Have any dreams?
Goals?
Hobbies?
Who do you want to be? What do you want to do?
You working a j o b? or are you doing what you really want to do?
And about your physical limitations, I don't dare to assume what is wrong with you. But I know there is a ton of stuff out there, amazing supplements, therapies, etc-- that at the very least could help you feel better physically and mentally.
I got to the gym five days a week. I've actually maxed out how ripped I can get. Truth is, I was born with a small frame, type I diabetes, deformed ribs, immune system problems, and other issues. I don't think there is anything else I can do to improve my body at this point. I bench 1x my bodyweight, squat 2x my bodyweight, and do even better on pushups/pullups and bicep/tricep workouts. I practice marshal arts. But I'm small and 140 lbs, so none of that makes me really ripped like most guys.
I have an IQ of 140 and I do pretty well money/career wise, but i'm not likely to get rich. I feel like I've maxed out and there is little that I can do to improve IRL that is likely to suceed.
My problem, in a nutshell, is that I'm Bernard Marx. My mind is top tier, but my body is bottom tier. So I don't fit in either tier. I can't talk to most girls because they are fucking retarded, but the few girls I can talk to all want someone hotter then me whose body and mind are more tighly rated.
In MMOs, things work better. Its fair, everything is as it should be. A true meritocracy, managed by true world controllers. No fucked up alcohol in the birthing tubes there, everyone gets the same stats on birth.
If you wonder what prompts this, I finally found a girl I really connect with, but she just told me that she is in a relationship with another guy and has been cheating on him with me, but decided to end her affair. She was nice. Harvard grad, we really connected, more then most. I'm tired of getting drunk every weekend at bars and maybe hooking up with random sluts every once in awhile. I'm too old for that shit. But I don't think anything more meaninful is forthcoming.
My career is better then 99% of people. But I'm not going to get quit my job rich ever. Its stimulating in many ways but boring in others. I shouldn't complain, but I'm going too, because it feels like anything short of the apex really doesn't matter. What's the point of making 150k vs 50k. Does is change your lifestyle? Can you get hotter bitches? Better friends? More happinin parties? Not really. You can drink nicer bear, eat better food, live in a nice zip code, but other then that it doesn't matter.
My advice would be to treat MMOs with the same level of priority that people give to watching sports or entertainment on TV. Making gameplay important defeats the purpose. It changes from entertainment to work. Also, expecting more than what's realistic from gameplay experience is a sure fire way to set oneself up for failed expectations.
In the end, it's just a game. Have fun with it.
Accomplishments are about how they make you feel. Whether you went out and climbed Mt Everest, or earned yourself some uber power sword in a video game... you set a goal for yourself, you worked for it, you succeeded. The mountain and the game are just sensory input for your 140 iq brain, it doesn't know the difference. Both are just as real as far as your sense of accomplishment is concerned.
Dude, again, it's not about hot bitches or any of that. It's about people that love and any woman would appreciate a smart dude thats kind... trust me you have more than half of the work done. YOu're not alone and you can do anything you put your mind to.
Well you got the pep talk already. I will tell you what happened to me. When I was 24 I got hurt. I am good looking, very tall, a very fit body. I had a girlfriend that loved me to death, and got along great with my family. Also a job that payed 70k a year. not much by some standards but certainly nice. I was also persuing my favorite hobbie on my free time.
When I got hurt I lost everything, mostly because of my attitude. I felt devastated, like my life was over. A one armed man. You will be surprised how quickly people stop talking to you once you dont have any money. I "isolated" myself completely, lived like a hermit, mostly because people didnt want to hang out with me anymore. All I did is play, rehab, eat, clean myself, and sleep. a couple times I played for over 24 hours.
I lost myself in an MMORPG for 8 months straight. There I was strong again, powerful. I made great relationships. some that went IRL. Those people accepted me. While everyone else IRL I felt had turned against me (real or imagined). I finally had to get my life "back on track". Rent doesnt pay itself. I am well loved and respected again now IRL. But let me tell you. 5 years later, those 8 months were the best time of my life.
Truth is I wasnt isolated. I was intereacting with REAL people ingame. just like facebook, or like having a penpal. They didnt judge me right away becaue of my appearance. So they had to get to know me first.
will I "give up" like you and take a 9-5 and just play MMORPGs again? I dont think of it as giving up. I think of it as giving up a certain lifestyle for another. Just like alcoholics give up the drunk lifestyle. I will give up the rat race. Yes I will. I will just work, pay my bills, save my money, workout, and play MMORPGs, I preffer that type of life.
On the women issue. I never valued myself by my relationships, and never liked keeping a woman around me 24/7 like some captive. Sex is no problem, nowadays its easyer to find someone to have sex with you than date you. If you are disfigured like you say. paying for sex is cheap enough because of this economy. and the girls are prettier than the women most guys can get. Maybe that is to cynical. If you want to meet a partner well...like I said ingame people didnt judge me for how I looked. they got to know me first, and thats why they liked me. I dont have good advise here since its not something very important to me.
I dont know if it helped you I was just telling my story and my point of view. Good luck bro. choose for yourself. its your life, live it like you want. Maybe I'll meet you ingame some day.
Immunocal for your immune system. And you can beat both types of diabetes, if you really want to.
You sound unhappy and a brokenhearted. I don't know you personally but I hope it gets better for you. Everyone deserves to be happy. Hope you find your thing. And don't knock yourself so much. I bet you are More and better than what you give yourself credit for.
You can have it both ways.
1. You don't need any past time or activity to know your self value.
a) Do playing MMOs entertain you?
b) Are you one of the many players who have a good time socially playing?
2. Women like a man who isn't trying too hard to make them notice them. Ever wonder why the spray tan aloof idiot has a hot girlfriend; while his contemporary chatting about sports cars, property, and other ritzy "settle down with me" crap seem to be putting forth uneven amounts of effort for a marginally comparable result?
Overall post 25 dating is easier. Be yourself, go do things socially that make you happy, and keep an eye out for someone that you're attracted to who enjoys those activities as well.
Avoid mixing MMOs dating, it leads to trouble.
But spend time playing MMOs, going to art shows (my personal favorite thing to do), irish pubs, whatever you enjoy and just keep an eye out and stay cool.
Don't give up.
But if you do and your life is spent becoming a damn find MMORPG player; at least you're not killing children. That's always a plus.
I used to play MMOs like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
41 here, 2 teenage kids. I spent my entire childhood a fat little shit. I was fat until I got out of high school, and never...NEVER had luck with women.
Then along comes the army. I get ripped. Not only lost the weight, but get in really, really good shape and have made it a way of life ever since. For a while, that mentality I had as a fat kid hung with me, no confidence with women, shy...basically an introvert. I had no idea that women were interested in me, no understanding of the signs, they could hit on me--and did--and I had no idea. I was like a 20 year old child when it came to women.
But over time, it changed. Didnt give up, and neither should you. Playing MMOs as an escape from pain, or a painful part of your life is probably better than a drug or drinking problem, but you are using them for the same thing.
And the women I have been married to for the last 18 years basically battered through my bullshit. I never saw it coming, and you might be a day away from meeting the woman of your dreams...or a year, or five. But they are out there.
"Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them."--Thoreau
It's quite possible that you're simply measuring worth on the wrong scale.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
There's some good advice in this thread.
In the end you have to take charge of your life. Sorry, but that's how it works.
And "no" you don't have to look like cary grant or be ritch in order to have a happy and fulfilling life.
So much nonsense and drama and immature crap when I was youner. Then I realized I wasn't happy and sort of did a paradigm shift when it came to my life. Stopped comparing women to the list in my head, stopped beating myself up for things that I did and didnt' do.
Basically became clear on what I wanted and what I didn't.
And from 30 onward my life became very good.
Andy maybe that's the problem. Stop thinking of yourself as upper middle class and mediochre and just concentrate on what you want. Really want. Because one can be happy being lower class. It's harder but I know plenty of very happy people who just make do with less. They have good friends, good releationships and they just live for the good stuff. The moments. That's kind of what made me happy. I just do the things I want, cut out the things I dont' want and live for the enjoyable times. Whether that's going out to the movies wiht friends, sitting on the porch with loved ones, writing, playing games, just going hiking or to the park. Basically I invested my happiness into the people around me. Heck, after I was laid off I ended up taking a job that paid less (though with great benefits) because the organization was just amazing. What a difference to go to work with good people and have less nonsense and stress put upon you.
oh, and my age is 44 for the record.
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Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
You're undergoing mid-life crisis at an early age. Don't rush. If you feel what you have right now is not enough, then set up a higher ambition.
Yes, I know most of the people here are saying that you should be happy with what you have. For me though, it's the other way around. If you're not happy with what you have, then do something about it.
Greed is good.
You are young, and you have all the right to make mistakes. Will you fail at some of your endeavors in life after reading the answers from this thread? Certainly. Should you give up? No, I don't think so. If you don't fail, you won't grow.
I believe that all stories end up on a happy ending. If your story ended unhappily, it just means your story ain't over yet.
On a personal note:
When you asked if doing anything better will get you more bitches, etc. I believe that is a sign of immaturity, and that is not a good combination with your "early mid-life" crisis. That's not a good combination. As an earlier poster said, you are measuring things up with the wrong scale.
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Life is short. Most things we do are meaningless because when we finally shite ourself to death.. and we all do in the end... its all gone. Do what you enjoy with life and never be ashamed of it. If you enjoy gaming there is ZERO wrong with making it an important part of your life, however don't let it consume your life... balance often leads to a greater happiness. Never neglect your health.. ever.. being sick tends to suck the fun out of everything.. as someone born with health issues... trust me.. its true. Go for a walk now and then, or get a bike... both easy ways to stay/get in shape. And don't ever ...ever... EVER.. think you can not find a mate. You may think you are ugly or inferior, but guess what? Theres probably a guy/girl out there who thinks the same way about themself (even when its likely untrue), and they need loving too.. not everyone gets the princess, stripper, or super model, but that doesn't mean you can't find love.
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
Yeah yeah, aloof cocky/funny game. I do it, it works on girls at a reasonably ok rate and I get laid every once in awhile. Its getting boring. If anything, the fact that it works makes me despise women. When I use game on a girl and it works, I instantly see her as a worthless fucktoy. Its not even worth the effort to go out to the bars for something that is marginally better then wanking it.
And you wonder why women don't want to be around you.
If only it was as easy as women not wanting to be around me. That would be better, at least it would make sense and more would be right with the world.