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azucar
Member Posts: 20
in Guild Wars 2
Will there be a beta for the game?
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=will+there+be+a+guild+wars+2+beta
lol ! how long were you waiting to use that ?
Short answer: Yes.
Slightly longer answer: Yes, there will be a closed beta starting sometime this year (it could have already started without us knowing it) and an open beta close to release.
Let me google that for you, nice one. Well I guess you know the answer to that by now.
If closed beta started already, wouldn't they have informed us by now?
No. They said the closed beta would be virtually no different from their alpha. It will comprise of people close to the team and not open to the public.
With the way they've released information in the past. I'd wager we'd get an announcement of a semi-open beta (mostly for stress testing), and then a media circus leading up to release.
I have a feeling that it's all going to come in a massive flurry. We have all professions now, so it's just a matter of time.
Ding ding ding, where's my prize? :P
Your answer to marzatplay's question was no, if closed beta had started they would not have told us.
Today they told us that beta is going to start Friday.
It follows that had beta already started, they would have told us ahead of time.
Therefore your answer was incorrect.
To be honest, I'm not even sure that your subsequent explanation is correct either. To outsiders who have no knowledge of what is going on, it might appear no different. But to ArenaNet it might look very different. They might be using a different number of people or perhaps entirely different people.
It is also reasonable to think that their focus would be different. Up until now, they've allowed for sweeping changes (sylvari redesign, Smokestead completely scrapped and redone, energy gone, ranger pets, etc). Beta often signifies a time to move forward and focus on fixing bugs and balancing.
"Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true you know it, and they know it." -Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007
I don't need to ponder. I have friends who live in the Seattle area who work for Microsoft and know some ArenaNet employees. The friday "start" date for beta is just a PR thing, believe me. They're treating beta no different than alpha, just with more people. If changes need to be made, they will be made. They've always implied that, no matter what stage it's at.
Closed beta starts tomorrow. Being closed its by invitation only. Wish I was invited.
You can't have it both ways. It's either that they're adding more people, or it's just a PR thing.
It doesn't really matter anyway. Your information is secondhand. You weren't there to hear what these ArenaNet employees said. You have no way of knowing whether what these ArenaNet employees said was true. You don't know whether what they said was accurately relayed back to you.
For all of us reading it, it's even worse because we don't have any idea whether you're making this up. If I were to email a friend of mine now and say that "a guy on the internet said that he has friends in Seattle who know ArenaNet employees and they said that beta is a PR thing" do you think that would be considered credible?
"Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true you know it, and they know it." -Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007
Holy crap did you just miss my point entirely.
The entire point was the actual date of the start of beta was never going to be known. We had the definite answer of by the end of the year.
While I'm not saying ArenaNet is lying, but Fridays "start date" is just a PR move. On paper, alpha and beta are the same thing. It's also what ArenaNet has been reiterating for a while. If things come up in beta, they will be dealt with, no matter the time frame.
You're right though, my information is second hand. It must be completely idotic of me to believe a friend. Yep, I must've been insane when he introduced me to his ArenaNet friend when I was in Seattle for PAX the last 2 years.
Yep.
The point is beta has already begun. Fridays date is just for the record. You know...for the shareholders and publisher.
that amused me )
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Yes, I missed your point until now because in this post you finally omitted the information which contradicts it.
You're saying that alpha and beta are no different whatsoever, and that the official start of beta is only a PR move to put an official date on the start.
However, you have said that beta will be adding more people than alpha. Adding more people is a change. Perhaps not a change in focus, as I said was possible earlier, but a change nonetheless.
Actually, I realize you're now saying that beta has already begun, something you never said in your previous posts. How am I supposed to get your point when you're changing what it is you're saying?
As far as your friend and the information you received goes, a few points there. One, I'm no closer to believing that you're not making this up as you could also be making up the story of meeting him, so that doesn't help me. Second, I'm not saying at all that it would be idiotic to believe your friend. However, your friend might have misremembered the conversation. The point might have been misunderstood between you and your friend. The ArenaNet person might not know what they're talking about. ArenaNet might have changed their policy since the conversation.
I could continue speculating as to reasons why the information you received might be suspect, but it's all irrelevant anyway because we don't know you and have no reason to believe you. This is why we have to go by official announcements.
"Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true you know it, and they know it." -Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007
I have a friend who knows a friend that has a friend who's friend is a janitor over at the Anet building, and he was saying the toilets are pretty clean.
The truth may be puzzling. It may take some work to grapple with. It may be counterintuitive. It may contradict deeply held prejudices. It may not be consonant with what we desperately want to be true. But our preferences do not determine what's true.
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Apparently not. You're being quite...personal about this.
And you're the one whose completely just speculating. I realize you're only going on with the known public information, but just think. Think.
You really think they don't have a smaller, dedicated in house team to test the beta client before letting the new testers have at it? It's just basic quality assurance practice.
My original point was ArenaNet was not going to let the public know of the specifics of beta. Which is still true. We no nothing about how they recruit. Know nothing about how they're distributing beta. The Friday date is nothing more than PR. That's my point.
You just keep going on about how I can't possibly know more than you or another general GW2 fan. Sorry if that bugs you.
"Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true you know it, and they know it." -Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007
The answer everyone wants is that CLOSED BETA STARTS TOMORROW DECEMBER 16th, 2011!
The answer in more detail:
it's a real one, so no, you won't get an invite.
Open beta is for us 'normals'.
^ the guy in green above is essentially correct.
The closed beta is basically just the next step of testing and it won't be vastly different from alpha (alpha itself was insanely polished in the demo's anyway), where they're slightly increasing the pool of testers. It is very limited, and they will not be sending out many invites to the community if at all. Maybe on or two moderators at guru may get in, but apart from that? nah.
"Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true you know it, and they know it." -Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007
Wow, you're really going to blow a semantic this far?
I don't see having a larger pool size makes a game go from alpha to beta. Would it be any different if they kept the game alpha status and added in more people? No. That should be obvious.
They are throwing the project in beta stage to move along with their projected outline. In my opinion, it was the announcement of the Mesmer profession. It's obviously been in the game for a while now. And before releasing it to the larger pool, it was heavily tested by their then current testers. So beta, if we're going by the game version, did actually start. The version had been played, had been tested. Now it's just opening up to more people.
I think I'm done with the thread though. OP has been answered and this is just wasting space