wait....weren't people here just crying the other day about not being let in all at the same time???
Haha, exactly. This is what makes me laugh. Two days ago everyone was up in arms whining about the staggered EA. Now imagine if they had never had that, and let everyone in at once.
Bioware is damned if they do, and damned if they don't. I think their only real mistake was underestimating how many servers they'd need once everyone was let in. Otherwise, the staggered EA was a very good idea.
wait....weren't people here just crying the other day about not being let in all at the same time???
Exactly.
What people don't understand is the option was slowly let people in or queues. People chose queues so stop crying.
No, options are:
a) let people slowly in and queues
b) queues
Why shouldnt someone be pi**ed off because he first has 24-72 hours long queue in name of rainbows and uniqorns, just to be greeted by long queues when he finally gets access, because it would be same without 24-72 hours queues in the name of rainbows and unicorns.
Staggered turns out to be worse than "classic" because it brings whole another bunch of problems to the table in addition to usual ones.
I've been playing since tuesday and right now I'm in my first que. Its the first weekend, I'm not really suprised its happened. Still its been a great launch experience for me so far.
I've been playing since tuesday and right now I'm in my first que. Its the first weekend, I'm not really suprised its happened. Still its been a great launch experience for me so far.
I don't think anyone really understands just how many people are gonna be playing this game in the first month alone.
I've been following the game for a little over 6 months and I did not pre-order. I'm going to my local Best Buy the day it releases as soon as the store is open to get a copy.
There are many other's that will do the same thing on release day and the following week. We are legion.
+900k boxed North America pre-orders alone? Not including pre-order boxed copies for EU, and not including digital pre-order for U.S.A. or EU and not accounting for all the boxed and digitals purchases that will happen the day of and after offical release?
There will be a metric shit ton of people playing this game.
I feel pretty safe saying I believe that Bioware/EA will recoup the development costs of this game within the first week of official release which pretty much insures this game's longevity as they only need 500k sustained subscribers to be profitable which is a quote coming from Bioware/EA. I think 500k sustained players for this game is way WAY on the low end of how many it will have considering Rift the second most succesful mmo probably has 1 million or more active subs.
Star Wars IP made by Bioware vs Rift.
YA.
TOR will be #2 mmo over Rift by a pretty big margin. Both Rift and WoW will lose subs to TOR.
I've been playing since tuesday and right now I'm in my first que. Its the first weekend, I'm not really suprised its happened. Still its been a great launch experience for me so far.
For you, yes, for 90% others no.
As I've always suspected, sucks to be 90% of people who aren't me. Joking of course, but that is either a major exageration or Krayt Dragon is the greatest server ever, because everyone seems very happy so far. People in general chat mentioned having to que to get on a few hours ago and most people thought they were joking.
I've been playing since tuesday and right now I'm in my first que. Its the first weekend, I'm not really suprised its happened. Still its been a great launch experience for me so far.
For you, yes, for 90% others no.
As I've always suspected, sucks to be 90% of people who aren't me. Joking of course, but that is either a major exageration or Krayt Dragon is the greatest server ever, because everyone seems very happy so far. People in general chat mentioned having to que to get on a few hours ago and most people thought they were joking.
Yes, people are exceptionally happy for witing 4 days to get access and then be faced with few hour(s) long queues. In fact i suggest BW to make at least hour long artificial queue, even if theres noone playing, just to make people more happy
Oh, and they should make staggered access every week! So starting every monday you have to wait to get e-mail for when you can start playing, and access is granted anywhere from mon-fri. That would make players excstatic it seems
I bet those fanbois would again preach how "its best thing evah" lol.
I've been playing since tuesday and right now I'm in my first que. Its the first weekend, I'm not really suprised its happened. Still its been a great launch experience for me so far.
For you, yes, for 90% others no.
As I've always suspected, sucks to be 90% of people who aren't me. Joking of course, but that is either a major exageration or Krayt Dragon is the greatest server ever, because everyone seems very happy so far. People in general chat mentioned having to que to get on a few hours ago and most people thought they were joking.
Yes, people are exceptionally happy for witing 4 days to get access and then be faced with few hour long queues. In fact i suggest BW to make hour long artificial queue, even if theres noone playing, just to make people more happy
Oh, and they should make staggered access every week, so starting every monday you have to wait to get e-mail for when you can start playing, and access is granted anywhere from mon-fri. That would make players excstatic it seems
I bet those fanbois would again preach how "its best thing evah" lol.
clearly you must be a fanboy if you havnt had any problems!
Nice try though, maybe next time you post might actually be funny.
Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling" Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.
I've been playing since tuesday and right now I'm in my first que. Its the first weekend, I'm not really suprised its happened. Still its been a great launch experience for me so far.
For you, yes, for 90% others no.
(_|_) <-- not a reliable source of data
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein "Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
I'm tired of this crap... there are servers that NEVER get full. Play on one of them... it's your choice to play on a populated server or not... just know one thing... servers with queues have a higher probability of not being a dead server when the 30-60 day quitters leave. Pick your poison... go play on a non queue server or know your playing with a population. Whichever one you choose stop crying about the game and server being successful.
Everything I say is my opinion or personal preference. You may or may not find it useful to your cause but regardless I am entitled to it.
I'm tired of this crap... there are servers that NEVER get full. Play on one of them... it's your choice to play on a populated server or not... just know one thing... servers with queues have a higher probability of not being a dead server when the 30-60 day quitters leave. Pick your poison... go play on a non queue server or know your playing with a population. Whichever one you choose stop crying about the game and server being successful.
Really, so is shuld leave my guild which i joined in BWs pre-launch guild program just because you say so?
Get off your high horse, im now in 1 and 1/2 hour queue just because i had lunch. And yes, i want to play with my friends and guildies, im happy that you have no friends or guildies to play with so you dont have such problems.
Originally posted by Loktofeit
(_|_) <-- not a reliable source of data
More reliable than fanbois claiming there are no queues lag and gamebreaking bugs.
Ah,well, could you tell us when you got your email, just to put things in perspective?
I'm tired of this crap... there are servers that NEVER get full. Play on one of them... it's your choice to play on a populated server or not... just know one thing... servers with queues have a higher probability of not being a dead server when the 30-60 day quitters leave. Pick your poison... go play on a non queue server or know your playing with a population. Whichever one you choose stop crying about the game and server being successful.
Weren't you "crying" about the staggering launch? For some people who might have played a character too far on a particular server or have their guild on one, it's not that easy. Personally I am not sure if it was a good idea to listen to the people "crying" to have more people let them in.
It shows weak backbone on Biowares part, and if they are going to give in too angry players like this, what other nonsense will they give in to, when a small vocal part of the community gets angry or feel that there is great injustice?
I waited at least 4 hours yesterday to get in. It's okay though. I am okay with it, but I can see why other people are upset over this. The game is not out yet. I didn't think there would be queue problems like this for the pre-order folks.
I'm tired of this crap... there are servers that NEVER get full. Play on one of them... it's your choice to play on a populated server or not... just know one thing... servers with queues have a higher probability of not being a dead server when the 30-60 day quitters leave. Pick your poison... go play on a non queue server or know your playing with a population. Whichever one you choose stop crying about the game and server being successful.
That is an almost brainless argument, if you were in a pre-release guild then you don't get a choice where your guild is sent (except the PvE/PvP choice) nor do you get a reasonable choice if everyone you usually play with is on a full server either.
For those that are truly starting alone, your suggestion works but I would expect a large segment of the bulk of pre-orders to have been from organised players to who your statement doesn't apply.
Originally posted by Skuz Originally posted by DexterMMO I'm tired of this crap... there are servers that NEVER get full. Play on one of them... it's your choice to play on a populated server or not... just know one thing... servers with queues have a higher probability of not being a dead server when the 30-60 day quitters leave. Pick your poison... go play on a non queue server or know your playing with a population. Whichever one you choose stop crying about the game and server being successful.
That is an almost brainless argument, if you were in a pre-release guild then you don't get a choice where your guild is sent (except the PvE/PvP choice) nor do you get a reasonable choice if everyone you usually play with is on a full server either. For those that are truly starting alone, your suggestion works but I would expect a large segment of the bulk of pre-orders to have been from organised players to who your statement doesn't apply.
You don't really get a choice on where your guild goes anyway. Not everyone in a guild starts on the same day, and even if they do, there are the inevitable queues, etc. So unless your entire guild decides to reroll on another server en mass, you are s.o.l. guild wise no matter what.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
How is it a brainless arguement to say that you have a choice to whine and queue for a server or too go to a different one that isnt full. That's just all 3 of your in a row being neanderthuls. It's not a valid arguement... Bioware did not know people would cram pack yoru particular server over the others... so they did release others... and those others are not filling up because the players... the people still want to play on that server. Write your next QQ thread to the people who want to play there and not Bioware. They opened other servers.
/end thread.
Edit: for clarification my staggered invite arguement was that day 1 and 2 all servers were light/standard loads... that's stupid because... DID IT HELP??? Nope look your still here crying about queues... they should of just let everyone in at the same time and there would of been a better chance of people rolling on other servers.
Oh man I'm like beyond genius status +100 logic and debate got my +50 flame retardant vest and +20 dps to trolls hammer.
Everything I say is my opinion or personal preference. You may or may not find it useful to your cause but regardless I am entitled to it.
wait....weren't people here just crying the other day about not being let in all at the same time???
Shhhhh. We're tying to get past all that ugliness. Most people forgot they were mad and you go and bring that up.
For shame.
haha!
lol so true, its no wonder my account gets banned about every 6 months I can only sit back in silence so long reading posts from people that seem to have the reasoning skills of a lap dog. I have to bite my tounge on every other post I read but to no avail I always end up making fun of some dumb smucks mindless post. and in comes the warnings.
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I was number 900 or so today on T3-M4, a German server I have a few chars. It waited almost 2 hours! It isn't funny anymore!
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
Exactly.
What people don't understand is the option was slowly let people in or queues. People chose queues so stop crying.
Remember Old School Ultima Online
Haha, exactly. This is what makes me laugh. Two days ago everyone was up in arms whining about the staggered EA. Now imagine if they had never had that, and let everyone in at once.
Bioware is damned if they do, and damned if they don't. I think their only real mistake was underestimating how many servers they'd need once everyone was let in. Otherwise, the staggered EA was a very good idea.
No, options are:
a) let people slowly in and queues
b) queues
Why shouldnt someone be pi**ed off because he first has 24-72 hours long queue in name of rainbows and uniqorns, just to be greeted by long queues when he finally gets access, because it would be same without 24-72 hours queues in the name of rainbows and unicorns.
Staggered turns out to be worse than "classic" because it brings whole another bunch of problems to the table in addition to usual ones.
I've been playing since tuesday and right now I'm in my first que. Its the first weekend, I'm not really suprised its happened. Still its been a great launch experience for me so far.
For you, yes, for 90% others no.
I don't think anyone really understands just how many people are gonna be playing this game in the first month alone.
I've been following the game for a little over 6 months and I did not pre-order. I'm going to my local Best Buy the day it releases as soon as the store is open to get a copy.
There are many other's that will do the same thing on release day and the following week. We are legion.
+900k boxed North America pre-orders alone? Not including pre-order boxed copies for EU, and not including digital pre-order for U.S.A. or EU and not accounting for all the boxed and digitals purchases that will happen the day of and after offical release?
There will be a metric shit ton of people playing this game.
I feel pretty safe saying I believe that Bioware/EA will recoup the development costs of this game within the first week of official release which pretty much insures this game's longevity as they only need 500k sustained subscribers to be profitable which is a quote coming from Bioware/EA. I think 500k sustained players for this game is way WAY on the low end of how many it will have considering Rift the second most succesful mmo probably has 1 million or more active subs.
Star Wars IP made by Bioware vs Rift.
YA.
TOR will be #2 mmo over Rift by a pretty big margin. Both Rift and WoW will lose subs to TOR.
As I've always suspected, sucks to be 90% of people who aren't me. Joking of course, but that is either a major exageration or Krayt Dragon is the greatest server ever, because everyone seems very happy so far. People in general chat mentioned having to que to get on a few hours ago and most people thought they were joking.
Yes, people are exceptionally happy for witing 4 days to get access and then be faced with few hour(s) long queues. In fact i suggest BW to make at least hour long artificial queue, even if theres noone playing, just to make people more happy
Oh, and they should make staggered access every week! So starting every monday you have to wait to get e-mail for when you can start playing, and access is granted anywhere from mon-fri. That would make players excstatic it seems
I bet those fanbois would again preach how "its best thing evah" lol.
clearly you must be a fanboy if you havnt had any problems!
Nice try though, maybe next time you post might actually be funny.
Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling"
Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.
Uh oh, did i hit a soft spot? Sorry.
lol, you wish, guess the truth hurts.
Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling"
Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.
Yah, i know, i didnt mean to hurt you, i said sorry already.
how cute, it thinks purposley misinterperating my words somehow makes him right, sorry, words too big for you?
Reality check, someone not having issues *gasp* DOESNT make them a fanboy! guess you actually need a clue to know this.
Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling"
Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.
(_|_) <-- not a reliable source of data
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
I'm tired of this crap... there are servers that NEVER get full. Play on one of them... it's your choice to play on a populated server or not... just know one thing... servers with queues have a higher probability of not being a dead server when the 30-60 day quitters leave. Pick your poison... go play on a non queue server or know your playing with a population. Whichever one you choose stop crying about the game and server being successful.
Everything I say is my opinion or personal preference. You may or may not find it useful to your cause but regardless I am entitled to it.
Really, so is shuld leave my guild which i joined in BWs pre-launch guild program just because you say so?
Get off your high horse, im now in 1 and 1/2 hour queue just because i had lunch. And yes, i want to play with my friends and guildies, im happy that you have no friends or guildies to play with so you dont have such problems.
Originally posted by Loktofeit
(_|_) <-- not a reliable source of data
More reliable than fanbois claiming there are no queues lag and gamebreaking bugs.
Ah,well, could you tell us when you got your email, just to put things in perspective?
Weren't you "crying" about the staggering launch? For some people who might have played a character too far on a particular server or have their guild on one, it's not that easy. Personally I am not sure if it was a good idea to listen to the people "crying" to have more people let them in.
It shows weak backbone on Biowares part, and if they are going to give in too angry players like this, what other nonsense will they give in to, when a small vocal part of the community gets angry or feel that there is great injustice?
I waited at least 4 hours yesterday to get in. It's okay though. I am okay with it, but I can see why other people are upset over this. The game is not out yet. I didn't think there would be queue problems like this for the pre-order folks.
That is an almost brainless argument, if you were in a pre-release guild then you don't get a choice where your guild is sent (except the PvE/PvP choice) nor do you get a reasonable choice if everyone you usually play with is on a full server either.
For those that are truly starting alone, your suggestion works but I would expect a large segment of the bulk of pre-orders to have been from organised players to who your statement doesn't apply.
For those that are truly starting alone, your suggestion works but I would expect a large segment of the bulk of pre-orders to have been from organised players to who your statement doesn't apply.
You don't really get a choice on where your guild goes anyway. Not everyone in a guild starts on the same day, and even if they do, there are the inevitable queues, etc. So unless your entire guild decides to reroll on another server en mass, you are s.o.l. guild wise no matter what.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
How is it a brainless arguement to say that you have a choice to whine and queue for a server or too go to a different one that isnt full. That's just all 3 of your in a row being neanderthuls. It's not a valid arguement... Bioware did not know people would cram pack yoru particular server over the others... so they did release others... and those others are not filling up because the players... the people still want to play on that server. Write your next QQ thread to the people who want to play there and not Bioware. They opened other servers.
/end thread.
Edit: for clarification my staggered invite arguement was that day 1 and 2 all servers were light/standard loads... that's stupid because... DID IT HELP??? Nope look your still here crying about queues... they should of just let everyone in at the same time and there would of been a better chance of people rolling on other servers.
Oh man I'm like beyond genius status +100 logic and debate got my +50 flame retardant vest and +20 dps to trolls hammer.
Everything I say is my opinion or personal preference. You may or may not find it useful to your cause but regardless I am entitled to it.
If you fill a cup to overflowing you don't ask the cup to resolve the overflowing issue. You simply pour your drink into a different cup.
If a bazillion players try to play on the same server, it will overflow into a queue. The only resolution is for players to move.
haha!
lol so true, its no wonder my account gets banned about every 6 months I can only sit back in silence so long reading posts from people that seem to have the reasoning skills of a lap dog. I have to bite my tounge on every other post I read but to no avail I always end up making fun of some dumb smucks mindless post. and in comes the warnings.
I'm pissing myself laughing !