Laughing man it's there whether you like that it's there or not, it's starting to become a majority issue, and it was an issue for many past mmos. Hell you can't even get on your mount in a smooth manor, there is proof of this in video format and compared by WoW since no matter how many people hate WoW they did manage to get that right.
It's better to let Bioware know it's an issue rather than act like it's not there because that's what a lot of fans did in previous mmos.
I hit button, character mounts up, before animation of mount is even complete I am riding mount away from location I summoned speeder bike.
Wat problim?
Seriously I DO NOT HAVE THIS ISSUE, I'm sorry if you guys do, and that sucks. I don't know what to tell you. However, please accept the fact that NOT EVERYONE is having this problem.
Thanks for posting the videos I do realize what you mean, the good thing is this isnt unfixable it is actually quite easy for them to patch this up, I personally do not see this cause I wait until I actually get the mount in this case before start running, this is a case of the server compensating for the client-server lag, and actually forcing the client to be a state that you have not seen.
If you look closely on the WoW video actually says failed because technically the cast was cancelled at the last milisecond but because the server timer already aknowledge the cast it forces the client into the state, so you could argue it is a preference really and could not even be by design but just a side effect of the WoW server architecture.
As a dev myself this seems fairly easy to fix which is allow the server to force a client state when it is too close to the end of the cast timer rather than let the client cancel it.
Yea it shows durring different lvls of classes like on sith warrior as my newphew was playing you can see it clearly from the start, he presses two and the guy ets ready, then re gets ready again then hits.
It's might be easy to fix but so far games that had these issues didn't deal with them mainly because it was like people act like it was perfect and some exaggerated it but then some brought it up as a huge and valid issue.
I'm brinin it up so people who are starting to get cocky an think nothings wrong well it's time to support the real issues because that thread is growing and people are getting to the point were they are about to leave, same happened in Aion.
I hope your right about it being easy to fix though some actually concur with it since they would almost have to re do the anims and what not.
I see where you are coming from, I wouldnt call this game breaking tho, I dont see why it wouldnt be addressed.
The reason it works in WoW is cause the casting bar is out of sync with the server if I remember correctly in TBC you could have a latency addon for your bars and force /cancelcast when it is about 3 quarters of the way in and then recast and a heal would still go out, they fixed it by allowing this automatically if you spam a button and its already off on the server it will start casting on the client a new one.
Laughing man it's there whether you like that it's there or not, it's starting to become a majority issue, and it was an issue for many past mmos. Hell you can't even get on your mount in a smooth manor, there is proof of this in video format and compared by WoW since no matter how many people hate WoW they did manage to get that right.
It's better to let Bioware know it's an issue rather than act like it's not there because that's what a lot of fans did in previous mmos.
I hit button, character mounts up, before animation of mount is even complete I am riding mount away from location I summoned speeder bike.
Wat problim?
Seriously I DO NOT HAVE THIS ISSUE, I'm sorry if you guys do, and that sucks. I don't know what to tell you. However, please accept the fact that NOT EVERYONE is having this problem.
Do you have an ATI card? Or Nvidia? Just curious, I don't have that issue either
Laughing man it's there whether you like that it's there or not, it's starting to become a majority issue, and it was an issue for many past mmos. Hell you can't even get on your mount in a smooth manor, there is proof of this in video format and compared by WoW since no matter how many people hate WoW they did manage to get that right.
It's better to let Bioware know it's an issue rather than act like it's not there because that's what a lot of fans did in previous mmos.
I hit button, character mounts up, before animation of mount is even complete I am riding mount away from location I summoned speeder bike.
Wat problim?
Seriously I DO NOT HAVE THIS ISSUE, I'm sorry if you guys do, and that sucks. I don't know what to tell you. However, please accept the fact that NOT EVERYONE is having this problem.
Do you have an ATI card? Or Nvidia? Just curious, I don't have that issue either
And read the post of the pages before this on please.
My computer can run Skyrim on max settings with high fps, the cards don't matter it's the design of the system, it need a fix'n how ever what's crazy is they might intentionally did that so they gambled with animations.
The thing is it's there, wether people like it or not, you can try running while mounting if it happenes that means your the lucky few that don't have this problem.
People brought up the issue before hand and some on the SWTOR forums but since they were more blunt and raging it was passed as hating, were as Creslin brought this up and the poster Xcore found the right words for the issue, it's like when people said "Haters are in the minority." got their own medicine.
At the end I hope they fix it asap, like I said if they do I'll happily enjoy this game since I like melee classes and the shadow/assasin advance class for the consular and inquisidor.
Lots of typos I know, I'm better at talking than I am typing ha ha.
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
1) LFG tool not in game. Having to spam trade is not playing. I dont care if I have to find the mission start first. Just let me queue up afterwards. This is really going to hurt BW. I think most people will go because of this reason and when it happens the people who are against it will also have a hard time finding a group.
2) Ability Delay. This is pretty much critical. You cannot get a real rotation off correctly due to abilties being cancelled it even though the cast time is finished but the animation is not. Sometimes it goes off sometimes it doesn't. See this thread from better explanation http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=84943
3) No way ot customize UI. This UI needs some work. Get a developer kit out there so people can adjust it the way they want it.
Game was smooth aside from the ability delay, and i only receieved it in warzones,i played a dps sage and most of there abilities had some nice animations so maybe that factored into it but after experiencing it in everywarzone with most of the abilities i used i just got used to it and after 3-4 warzones it didnt really hamper my playstyle, was still placing top 3-5 dps in warzones and usually i was usually the only sage in the top 5 in most my warzones.
But after seeing Illum and experiencing the ability delay i couldnt shake the idea that PvP was just an afterthought to bioware....
If they ever add any meaningfull pvp in the future i may hop back in and give it another go but as it is i got into early access on thursday and stoped playing on the 20th, shame 2 because i really dug the crafting system and although i was pressing space bar through 90% of the dialogue, i was still following my class story lines and found em entertaining.
Edit: i never had the ability to mount while running....always told me i had to come to a stop.
Added a poll as people have asked, though I felt like I should add options so people don't just vote no who haven't played or do not like the game. So just look at Yes and No for relevent accurate information on people who have purchased the game.
Yes will be subscribing, already have actually - bought a 60 day card and applied it.
LFG tool? No thanks. Join a guild. Pretend this is a MMO and a social experience as MMOs are supposed to be.
Customizable UI? As long as it is 100% cosmetic only. No add ons. Deadly Boss Mods, Recount, GearScore, Quest Helper etc. completely and totally ruined WoW. Perhaps I should also mention EZHeal and Healbot.
Ability lag? What is this? Never seen it. Must be one of the "lucky ones" who never get any lag, ever, anywhere, except for for like 30 minutes when I was on Taris once, but looking at today's patch notes I guess that was a known issue that is now resolved regarding a mission.
I've tried to like the game and played into the 30s on one side and 20s on the other and I'm just done with it now. Just feel like I've played the game before and I can see where it is going, it just feels like a boring grind now to me and the story doesn't play an important roll in it like I hoped. Feels like class story quests are about 5% of questing and the rest is all the standard kill 10 of these quests.
I have tried to like it and given it way more time than I thought I would but just got to that point where I have no interest in carrying on.
on a side note, if the game is F2P it will have poor content update, they need MONEY everything is about money if there is no euros/dollars there is no game.
I have already cancelled, I wanna do something with my life XD
I hate to call you out but your in your free 30 day of free game game time , there was no need to cancel you just dont set up a sub, so calling you out on that. All these folks telling falsehoods.
I have already cancelled, I wanna do something with my life XD
I hate to call you out but your in your free 30 day of free game game time , there was no need to cancel you just dont set up a sub, so calling you out on that. All these folks telling falsehoods.
I don't know a single MMO that allows you to play without a credit card number or some sort of payment plan selected.
Unless SWTOR is different, the poster you quoted most definitely had to "cancel".
"Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."
im gonna sub till this game shut down. im having that much fun. And in the end thats all that matters
i dont care if a game reinvents the mmo genre all i care about is if a game is fun to play and if i enjoy it and i love playing tor and am enuoying it immensly
i bit addicted according to my gf, when im not playing i find at times wishing i was. But i like to spend time with gf and family and do that even when im itiching to play tor.
its a fun polished game and ill sub until it shuts down or goes free 2 play.
I've yet to see anything to even persuade me to buy the game... maybe in a few months time when there has been a few real player reviews put out.. but have to say.. from what i've seen on some of the play throughs on youtube.. im far from convinced that this is that good of a game
Ok, up front, I will admit that I didn't ready all 247 comments. I did read the first 18 pages so around 180 and it seems as though, people posting are much more likely to sub than those just answering the poll question and not responding. This is much different than what I usually see on these forums where people generally pick the positive and it is the negative posters actually posting. All in all, I'm not actually sure what that means (if anything) just an observation. Oh and yes, I will be subbing if for no other reason than my laptop won't run the game and I'm out of town til the first of Jan unable to play.
I have already cancelled, I wanna do something with my life XD
I hate to call you out but your in your free 30 day of free game game time , there was no need to cancel you just dont set up a sub, so calling you out on that. All these folks telling falsehoods.
I don't know a single MMO that allows you to play without a credit card number or some sort of payment plan selected.
Unless SWTOR is different, the poster you quoted most definitely had to "cancel".
You got your code from either buying the box or the pre order. It gave you 30 days, without entering a credit card. In order to play past that you had to subscribe. When all you had to do was not subscribe at all Yea it was a bit different process but that how it was working since it was new.
It just spoke volumes of somebody who had no clue how the billing process worked. If he hated the game that much he should have canceled his pre order. Funny thing the person still has access until 1/13. That is when the billing kicks in, and like I said you had to enter a credit card to subscribe. If you don't it just locks your account at that point.
Just proves my point neither you or him knew how the billing process worked and I got to ask why are you even in this thread.
No, I will not. In fact, after participating in the beta, I found the game to not be worthy of purchase. The game is shallow, boring, childish, extremely repetative, and a I found its graphics to be a cross between Fisher-Price and the Clone Wars series. It's a very sad attempt at producing a MMORPG. I decided to give it a chance though, and after that experience, it is exactly what I thought it would be, a thinly disguised CORPG. Even that might be giving it too much, there really isn't much RP in it to begin with, since the game is very much a 'directed'(on rails) experience. It's not worth it's subscription cost, and I don't think it's worth the box cost either.
Also, the argument that I shouldn't be so dissapointed in the game seeing as I knew what it was is a falacious argument. My dissapointment stems from what this game could do to the development of future MMO(RPG)s. Considering that if it is as successful as some wish it to be, this is what we will continue to get from future development. Do we really want to play the same game over and over again?
Ehmm... topic is about those who have bough the game. Since you didn't after your bad experince in beta so technically you can not resub. But hey don't let me stop you or anything from telling us why you are not going to resub lol
No, I will not. In fact, after participating in the beta, I found the game to not be worthy of purchase. The game is shallow, boring, childish, extremely repetative, and a I found its graphics to be a cross between Fisher-Price and the Clone Wars series. It's a very sad attempt at producing a MMORPG. I decided to give it a chance though, and after that experience, it is exactly what I thought it would be, a thinly disguised CORPG. Even that might be giving it too much, there really isn't much RP in it to begin with, since the game is very much a 'directed'(on rails) experience. It's not worth it's subscription cost, and I don't think it's worth the box cost either.
Also, the argument that I shouldn't be so dissapointed in the game seeing as I knew what it was is a falacious argument. My dissapointment stems from what this game could do to the development of future MMO(RPG)s. Considering that if it is as successful as some wish it to be, this is what we will continue to get from future development. Do we really want to play the same game over and over again?
Ehmm... topic is about those who have bough the game. Since you didn't after your bad experince in beta so technically you can not resub. But hey don't let me stop you or anything from telling us why you are not going to resub lol
Got to love it hes not going to resub to a game he does not have a sub for. Man the trolling in this thread has been epic. I have to wonder why so many fake posters are posting about this game. Rofl.
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I see where you are coming from, I wouldnt call this game breaking tho, I dont see why it wouldnt be addressed.
The reason it works in WoW is cause the casting bar is out of sync with the server if I remember correctly in TBC you could have a latency addon for your bars and force /cancelcast when it is about 3 quarters of the way in and then recast and a heal would still go out, they fixed it by allowing this automatically if you spam a button and its already off on the server it will start casting on the client a new one.
I'll sub if I haven't finished my class story. That's really the only thing worth playing in this f2p bound title.
Do you have an ATI card? Or Nvidia? Just curious, I don't have that issue either
Muthax
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=815227&posted=1#post815227
And read the post of the pages before this on please.
My computer can run Skyrim on max settings with high fps, the cards don't matter it's the design of the system, it need a fix'n how ever what's crazy is they might intentionally did that so they gambled with animations.
The thing is it's there, wether people like it or not, you can try running while mounting if it happenes that means your the lucky few that don't have this problem.
People brought up the issue before hand and some on the SWTOR forums but since they were more blunt and raging it was passed as hating, were as Creslin brought this up and the poster Xcore found the right words for the issue, it's like when people said "Haters are in the minority." got their own medicine.
At the end I hope they fix it asap, like I said if they do I'll happily enjoy this game since I like melee classes and the shadow/assasin advance class for the consular and inquisidor.
Lots of typos I know, I'm better at talking than I am typing ha ha.
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
Game was smooth aside from the ability delay, and i only receieved it in warzones,i played a dps sage and most of there abilities had some nice animations so maybe that factored into it but after experiencing it in everywarzone with most of the abilities i used i just got used to it and after 3-4 warzones it didnt really hamper my playstyle, was still placing top 3-5 dps in warzones and usually i was usually the only sage in the top 5 in most my warzones.
But after seeing Illum and experiencing the ability delay i couldnt shake the idea that PvP was just an afterthought to bioware....
If they ever add any meaningfull pvp in the future i may hop back in and give it another go but as it is i got into early access on thursday and stoped playing on the 20th, shame 2 because i really dug the crafting system and although i was pressing space bar through 90% of the dialogue, i was still following my class story lines and found em entertaining.
Edit: i never had the ability to mount while running....always told me i had to come to a stop.
Added a poll as people have asked, though I felt like I should add options so people don't just vote no who haven't played or do not like the game. So just look at Yes and No for relevent accurate information on people who have purchased the game.
Yes will be subscribing, already have actually - bought a 60 day card and applied it.
LFG tool? No thanks. Join a guild. Pretend this is a MMO and a social experience as MMOs are supposed to be.
Customizable UI? As long as it is 100% cosmetic only. No add ons. Deadly Boss Mods, Recount, GearScore, Quest Helper etc. completely and totally ruined WoW. Perhaps I should also mention EZHeal and Healbot.
Ability lag? What is this? Never seen it. Must be one of the "lucky ones" who never get any lag, ever, anywhere, except for for like 30 minutes when I was on Taris once, but looking at today's patch notes I guess that was a known issue that is now resolved regarding a mission.
I've tried to like the game and played into the 30s on one side and 20s on the other and I'm just done with it now. Just feel like I've played the game before and I can see where it is going, it just feels like a boring grind now to me and the story doesn't play an important roll in it like I hoped. Feels like class story quests are about 5% of questing and the rest is all the standard kill 10 of these quests.
I have tried to like it and given it way more time than I thought I would but just got to that point where I have no interest in carrying on.
I got the 6 month sub for me and the wife enough said.
6 month sub also, thank you and GZ for me, best game ever
I have already cancelled, I wanna do something with my life XD
on a side note, if the game is F2P it will have poor content update, they need MONEY everything is about money if there is no euros/dollars there is no game.
Yes.
I've been playing since June and don't see a reason to stop playing it yet.
I hate to call you out but your in your free 30 day of free game game time , there was no need to cancel you just dont set up a sub, so calling you out on that. All these folks telling falsehoods.
love it
I don't know a single MMO that allows you to play without a credit card number or some sort of payment plan selected.
Unless SWTOR is different, the poster you quoted most definitely had to "cancel".
"Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."
I need to take this advice more.
im gonna sub till this game shut down. im having that much fun. And in the end thats all that matters
i dont care if a game reinvents the mmo genre all i care about is if a game is fun to play and if i enjoy it and i love playing tor and am enuoying it immensly
i bit addicted according to my gf, when im not playing i find at times wishing i was. But i like to spend time with gf and family and do that even when im itiching to play tor.
its a fun polished game and ill sub until it shuts down or goes free 2 play.
I've yet to see anything to even persuade me to buy the game... maybe in a few months time when there has been a few real player reviews put out.. but have to say.. from what i've seen on some of the play throughs on youtube.. im far from convinced that this is that good of a game
oh yes i will
He that lives upon Hope dies farting.
Ok, up front, I will admit that I didn't ready all 247 comments. I did read the first 18 pages so around 180 and it seems as though, people posting are much more likely to sub than those just answering the poll question and not responding. This is much different than what I usually see on these forums where people generally pick the positive and it is the negative posters actually posting. All in all, I'm not actually sure what that means (if anything) just an observation. Oh and yes, I will be subbing if for no other reason than my laptop won't run the game and I'm out of town til the first of Jan unable to play.
I'll pass thanks. Same old same old...
Grim Dawn, the next great action rpg!
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You got your code from either buying the box or the pre order. It gave you 30 days, without entering a credit card. In order to play past that you had to subscribe. When all you had to do was not subscribe at all Yea it was a bit different process but that how it was working since it was new.
It just spoke volumes of somebody who had no clue how the billing process worked. If he hated the game that much he should have canceled his pre order. Funny thing the person still has access until 1/13. That is when the billing kicks in, and like I said you had to enter a credit card to subscribe. If you don't it just locks your account at that point.
Just proves my point neither you or him knew how the billing process worked and I got to ask why are you even in this thread.
Got to love it hes not going to resub to a game he does not have a sub for. Man the trolling in this thread has been epic. I have to wonder why so many fake posters are posting about this game. Rofl.