Thats new generation 3 DX11 motherboard but there not on market yet.
CPU is need to get full advantage of the new generation videocard 7970, dont underestimate the power of this new 28nano card.
Stop your nonsensing.
Generation 3 of what? There's only one generation of the DirectX 11 API so far. DirectX 11.1 will come with Windows 8, but that's relatively minor changes.
You might mean PCI Express 3.0. But PCI Express is backward compatible, so you can run a PCI Express 2.0 video card in a 3.0 motherboard and it will work exactly as if the motherboard were PCI Express 2.0.
DirectX 11 compatibility is a property of GPUs, that is, video cards. It's not a property of motherboards unless there is integrated graphics built into the motherboard. That's not what you want for gaming, especially since the only DirectX 11 integrated graphics soldered onto the motherboard is AMD's low end Radeon HD 6310 that would have to turn off all DirectX 11 features to make a game playable, anyway.
Im not so good to write it all down technically like you plus fact my english sucks but i have alot of experience building overclocking and optimizing PC for years and a high end videocard on a early motherboard manytimes results in lesser performance.
You can't just stick a 580 on a 3 year old mother board.
And yes PCIE 3.0 backward compitble lol but not other way around.
And offcorse i mean PCIe3 as new generation lol.
But ill be quiet im not good at typing it all down ill leave that to you then:)
Hope to build full AMD system RYZEN/VEGA/AM4!!!
MB:Asus V De Luxe z77 CPU:Intell Icore7 3770k GPU: AMD Fury X(waiting for BIG VEGA 10 or 11 HBM2?(bit unclear now)) MEMORY:Corsair PLAT.DDR3 1866MHZ 16GB PSU:Corsair AX1200i OS:Windows 10 64bit
Originally posted by forest-nl Im not so good to write it all down technically like you plus fact my english sucks but i have alot of experience building overclocking and optimizing PC for years and a high end videocard on a early motherboard manytimes results in lesser performance.You can't just stick a 580 on a 3 year old mother board.And yes PCIE 3.0 backward compitble lol but not other way around. And offcorse i mean PCIe3 as new generation lol.But ill be quiet im not good at typing it all down ill leave that to you then:)
Actually, it is compatible the other way around. PCI is pretty cool that way. You can stick a 580 in a 3 year motherboard and it will work. You could probably stick it in a 10 year old motherboard and it would work. Now, it wouldn't work optimally - but working optimally is a lot different than not working at all, and you could argue that a lot of modern PC's can't even use it optimally (those with slower CPU's or only single/dual cores, for instance).
There will be very limited benefit to a PCI 3.0 motherboard, even when paired with a PCI 3.0 video card, as it takes 3x SLI/Crossfire video cards currently to even come close to saturating the existing PCI 2.1 standard. The extra bandwidth that the 3.0 spec allows for will be more or less inconsequential. It would be nice if they had bumped the power delivery somewhat, but that didn't happen. As it is right now, there is can be only slight difference between running at PCI 1.1 and 2.1, even though the theoretical throughput doubled, actual benchmarks show some interesting results, depending on how the game is programmed and the size of the frame buffer - video cards can run quite effectively even on PCI 1.1 and see almost no benefit from the additional bandwidth - and that effectively negates the advantages that 3.0 brings to the table.
An older analysis, but still fairly relevant. VIdeo card memory has expanded, but frame buffers haven't by and large due to the nature of developers to tie PC game development with the more restrictive console versions. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pci-express-2.0,1915-13.html
Take into account that the consoles are still working with very small frame buffers (I think the XBox can use a 512M buffer, the PS3 only 256M) - and we probably won't see any benefit at all from PCI3.0 until consoles adapt the standard and fit enough memory to make the frame buffer big enough to utilize it.
Not speaking english well is fine - it's my native language and I still struggle with it. But that isn't a good excuse for passing along misinformation.
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Stop your nonsensing.
Generation 3 of what? There's only one generation of the DirectX 11 API so far. DirectX 11.1 will come with Windows 8, but that's relatively minor changes.
You might mean PCI Express 3.0. But PCI Express is backward compatible, so you can run a PCI Express 2.0 video card in a 3.0 motherboard and it will work exactly as if the motherboard were PCI Express 2.0.
DirectX 11 compatibility is a property of GPUs, that is, video cards. It's not a property of motherboards unless there is integrated graphics built into the motherboard. That's not what you want for gaming, especially since the only DirectX 11 integrated graphics soldered onto the motherboard is AMD's low end Radeon HD 6310 that would have to turn off all DirectX 11 features to make a game playable, anyway.
Im not so good to write it all down technically like you plus fact my english sucks but i have alot of experience building overclocking and optimizing PC for years and a high end videocard on a early motherboard manytimes results in lesser performance.
You can't just stick a 580 on a 3 year old mother board.
And yes PCIE 3.0 backward compitble lol but not other way around.
And offcorse i mean PCIe3 as new generation lol.
But ill be quiet im not good at typing it all down ill leave that to you then:)
Hope to build full AMD system RYZEN/VEGA/AM4!!!
MB:Asus V De Luxe z77
CPU:Intell Icore7 3770k
GPU: AMD Fury X(waiting for BIG VEGA 10 or 11 HBM2?(bit unclear now))
MEMORY:Corsair PLAT.DDR3 1866MHZ 16GB
PSU:Corsair AX1200i
OS:Windows 10 64bit
Actually, it is compatible the other way around. PCI is pretty cool that way. You can stick a 580 in a 3 year motherboard and it will work. You could probably stick it in a 10 year old motherboard and it would work. Now, it wouldn't work optimally - but working optimally is a lot different than not working at all, and you could argue that a lot of modern PC's can't even use it optimally (those with slower CPU's or only single/dual cores, for instance).
There will be very limited benefit to a PCI 3.0 motherboard, even when paired with a PCI 3.0 video card, as it takes 3x SLI/Crossfire video cards currently to even come close to saturating the existing PCI 2.1 standard. The extra bandwidth that the 3.0 spec allows for will be more or less inconsequential. It would be nice if they had bumped the power delivery somewhat, but that didn't happen. As it is right now, there is can be only slight difference between running at PCI 1.1 and 2.1, even though the theoretical throughput doubled, actual benchmarks show some interesting results, depending on how the game is programmed and the size of the frame buffer - video cards can run quite effectively even on PCI 1.1 and see almost no benefit from the additional bandwidth - and that effectively negates the advantages that 3.0 brings to the table.
An older analysis, but still fairly relevant. VIdeo card memory has expanded, but frame buffers haven't by and large due to the nature of developers to tie PC game development with the more restrictive console versions.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pci-express-2.0,1915-13.html
Take into account that the consoles are still working with very small frame buffers (I think the XBox can use a 512M buffer, the PS3 only 256M) - and we probably won't see any benefit at all from PCI3.0 until consoles adapt the standard and fit enough memory to make the frame buffer big enough to utilize it.
Not speaking english well is fine - it's my native language and I still struggle with it. But that isn't a good excuse for passing along misinformation.