Results of the Sheild Event.

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Despite what happen after the event in the sieging of FEAR's keep this thread is for the shield event and only the shield event please as a troll I ask all of you to discuss only about the event.

To start off what happen in the arena was very stupid, multiple teams teamed up together to fight the others and it just became a very big cluster of people. AQ and ENVY were fighting everyone else... There was one solo team being the "Rhodri" team that also fought everyone. The event ended up bring a 5v10v20 which was pretty dumb considering no rule was put on teaming up. This ruined the event from the start, not only did every group only recieve 10 bandages but also there was only 15 cuprum, 7 water, 7 rock oil, and 7 calimine to share within the group. This limitation on mages made this just a bad event in the end. Mages are an essential tool for victory in a battle such as this, but not only were there not a lot of bandages and regs but everyone got the same gear. 5 sets of scale armor were handed out to each group along with 1 axe, 2 greatblades, 2 spears, 1 one-handed greatblade and 2 shields. All of these weapons I believe were made of steel, and the mages had to deal with wearing half sets of gear considering weight was not looked into very well.

The event was just won by FEAR and OUTS being allied together and making a no kill pact with the other groups to go against AQ and ENVY. After the first fight was over the "boss" came out with the shield and did not display a good show for anyone. This boss was killed very easily and he did not dish out barrly any damage for such a "boss". He stood still most of the time while 5 people stood around him bashing him left and right, the shield did not help him one bit and he was either not skilled in PVP or he let the players kill him with little to no effort.

This event was not run very well in my opinion because what happen in the first fight mainly considering the grouping up of teams. Also a huge thing about this event that was different from any other event was what happen after they looted their winnings. What happen after that never happened to any other player or guild was that the winning FEAR group was teleported directly back to their keep. Not only did they get the shield but they looted 4000 ogh, cronite, and tungsteel from the boss. After looting they were teleported safetly back to their keep and later logged off with the loot.

The fact that this event the loot was 4k of the 3 best metals in game makes me wonder if the GMs of this game even remotely know how much 4k ogh and 4k cronite is worth. Even though the winners of the last event "The Sword of Tears" did not recieve the amount of items this event gave out or even slighty close to what FEAR got from this event it was completely dumb that they were teleported to safety. The "Sword of Tears" event winners got 666 cronite, ogh, and skadite. Every other event players had to run out of the gate of the arena and find their own way home, so I speak for everyone when I say this. That event was bullshit.

PS. The GMs claim to have changed the rules and that was their reason they teleported them to their keep, also they had 4 members of FEAR and 1 member of OUTS in the "FEAR" group therefore that is not allowed according to the rules, but appareny they were changed. When the GMs were asked about the 1 OUTS member being in the FEAR group we got no response.

Anything I left out please add or fix something I got wrong... considering it is almost 5 am.. sorry for mistakes.

I hope the GMs can do a bit of explaining on this thread, thanks in advance GM team for responses.

Xhodan

ok no clue what the GMs where thinking. why did they get TPed back to there keep? is this carebear mode? this has never happend in any event why now? the last event aq also had to go back knowing they could get attacked by anyone and loose the sword.

it should have been the same with the winners of this event, you won it well thats great but you need to protect it also. where is the sandbox here? this is easy mode nothing more. not only tho did they get carebear mode TPed with there shield into the keep but all the ogh and cronite that is worth fucking alot also with no risk found there way back into the keep.

GMs should atleast delete the cronite and ogh.

ashestoashes

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Originally Posted by rdomi

not the fucking point of thread anyway

The fucking point is that AQ lost an event for the first time. Be happy you had an event to go to in the first place, this entire game revolves around like 200 people. Be happy for your community, without them MO would be dead.

GM Theia

Hmm, such a shame. so the support team have done a lot of soul searching over this. My main aim for Pravum's Defence was to frankly get past the Sword of Tears and the difficulty that we had with that event. Which I really don't want raked over again although am obviously I am risking that juts by raising it. So one of the main issues with the sword of tears was teaming and the suggestion that there was unfairness due to guilds that were able to bring their own kit which was out of balance with the rest of the community. Events IMHO should if possible be shared and not always won by the same small group, even if they have legitimate advantages that are hard won over time.

So the whole team put huge and lengthy effort into pre-staging kit,weapons etc so that we could drive fairness into an event that was after all for a unique weapon. Some might argue that this in itself is unfair because if you have an advantage it is probably won. But we listened carefully and decided from the outset that Pravum's would have fairness 'baked in'. Once again, however there is a very upset section of the community, the support team feels drained and certain folk are re-posting some of the more controversial posts on external sites. So it doesn't feel like a win from over here at the moment.

I think implicit in sandbox is the opportunity for catastrophe in organised events. Again a team pushed against then rules which was not spotted, remember that we are disgustingly busy when these events are happening we were moving 30 sets of armour... Weapons, regs and the rest of it, trying to scan everyone to avoid any cheating (you know who you are) as well as deal with the normal tickets, that always seem to spike during an event.

So whilst we will (I will) again listen carefully to the feedback I would like to make a few points and caution some of the more vociferous posts that I've seen.

Remember that we write these events for YOU, not us, not for SV, the support team made up mainly of volunteers give up their free time to run these for you.

Remember that when you rage-post people from outside our community, some of them with nothing but hate for MO sieze upon this in a somewhat feeble attempt to prove bias (which I hope given the level of rage with the support team by a certain guild is seen now as even more ridiculous than it was before).

Remember that we ran a focus group meeting on this event and whilst we didn't want spoilers it was also green lit by that team.

So, again we will go away and review what went wrong and what SV can do to help us with some more mechanics around events. I agreed with the decision to port out the winner, we had effectively gibbed the teams (deeply ironic in that we were looking to drive fairness in) so it seemed at least fair that they were not mass-ganked the moment they stepped outside the walls of the arena. Shinzon is right, we could have just said, be prepared to move your loot but I do wonder how that would have worked out. What's the point in trying to run a 'fair' event if the most powerful guild is just waiting outside to take any prize, now or in the future. Yes, yes sandbox and all but if we have taken all their kit off of them what's the suggested fix? To those of you that said well just log off, that's not a great idea as we only port out of the Arena during an event, so it's at least possible if they logged in a week later they would have been refused a port out.

Try to realise the sheer effort that goes Into these events, the weeks of planning, building, publicising and all the rest of it, done by a mainly volunteer team.

We will continue to try and learn to make the next event better but this level of rage is really discouraging

If we ever port winners home again we will pre-announce it, that was my mistake for not doing that and I apologise, something I seem to have to do a lot after one of my events,

Thanks again to everyone who strayed within the rules I have had many messages of thanks for a fun event and support and indeed I thank those of you that have been supporting us on external sites.

I think that on balance, overall there is a net gain from running these, even if it frequently feels like that's not the case.

The very next event, I will be seeking written sign-off from as broad a section of the community as I can, let's see how that runs.

Thanks again all!

GM Theia

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So the whole team put huge and lengthy effort into pre-staging kit,weapons etc so that we could drive fairness into an event that was after all for a unique weapon.

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