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Bioware listened. Server specific forums inbound...sort of.

dubyahitedubyahite Member UncommonPosts: 2,483

Here's the official post: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=173672

 

Basically the way it will work is that there will be forums for groups of servers listed alphabetically. Each forum will be shared between a few servers, but they have asked that you preface your posts with [Server Name] when posting.  

 

Each of these forums will have a Guild Recruitment sub-forum also. 

 

What do you think? Is this sufficient for those of you that wanted server specific forums? 

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  • noncleynoncley Member UncommonPosts: 718

    Originally posted by dubyahite

    Here's the official post: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=173672

     

    Basically the way it will work is that there will be forums for groups of servers listed alphabetically. Each forum will be shared between a few servers, but they have asked that you preface your posts with [Server Name] when posting.  

     

    Each of these forums will have a Guild Recruitment sub-forum also. 

     

    What do you think? Is this sufficient for those of you that wanted server specific forums? 

    "they have asked that you preface your posts with [Server Name] when posting"

    Why is it they never get anything quite right?

  • DrakxiiDrakxii Member Posts: 594

    Lazy, lazy, lazy devs.  

    I will not play a game with a cash shop ever again. A dev job should be to make the game better not make me pay so it sucks less.

  • PuremallacePuremallace Member Posts: 1,856

    No forum search function? Damn they said a few days a few weeks ago.

  • TimzillaTimzilla Member UncommonPosts: 437

    Why would we need a server forum? That's something that would only be useful if there were a server community. This game doesn't require a community. You might even be penalized for stepping outside of your personal assigned cut scene.

  • RizelStarRizelStar Member UncommonPosts: 2,773

    Looks likke a good thing to me...I have no idea lmao.

     

    This was an issue really?

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  • dubyahitedubyahite Member UncommonPosts: 2,483
    Everything is an issue aroun here Rizel.

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    Open recruitment for

    The Secret World - Dragons

    Planetside 2 - Terran Republic

    Tera - Dragonfall Server

    http://www.shadowshand.com

  • IcewhiteIcewhite Member Posts: 6,403

    If only hyperbolic snarking carried a penalty.

    Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  • RizelStarRizelStar Member UncommonPosts: 2,773

    Originally posted by dubyahite

    Everything is an issue aroun here Rizel.

    That's an really odd issue and then people are still displeased with it, guess that shows fixing issues hurt em more(sometimes).

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    I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.

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    Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.

  • DrakxiiDrakxii Member Posts: 594

    Originally posted by RizelStar

    Originally posted by dubyahite

    Everything is an issue aroun here Rizel.

    That's an really odd issue and then people are still displeased with it, guess that shows fixing issues hurt em more(sometimes).

    Of course it's an issue.  Server fourms are great for guild recrewing, recrewing for world bosses, selling epics, warning poeple about ninja d-bags, etc...  

     

    It's just a fourm, it doesn't take any real game devs to make or mantain.  Also unless the forum system bioware uses is shit, the number of fourms doesn't really matter so why wouldn't you just have server fourms?  Heck alot of MMOs have three forums per server(trade, guild recrew, and general) not three servers per fourm.

    I will not play a game with a cash shop ever again. A dev job should be to make the game better not make me pay so it sucks less.

  • Creslin321Creslin321 Member Posts: 5,359

    So...let me get this straight.  They will have a single forum for a server "group" (I'm guessing maybe 5 servers), and when you post you are required to preface your topic with the name of your server...

    Ummmm, yeah...

    I just don't get why it's so hard to have a specific forum for each server.  WoW does it and I'm sure they have a lot more servers than SWTOR.

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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,197

    I don't see why this is even a thing.  Pointless to me honestly.



  • Jimmy562Jimmy562 Member UncommonPosts: 1,158

    Originally posted by dubyahite

    Here's the official post: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=173672

     

    Basically the way it will work is that there will be forums for groups of servers listed alphabetically. Each forum will be shared between a few servers, but they have asked that you preface your posts with [Server Name] when posting.  

     

    Each of these forums will have a Guild Recruitment sub-forum also. 

     

    What do you think? Is this sufficient for those of you that wanted server specific forums? 

    Why don't they just make them individual forums? Its not that hard. Developers seem so out of touch with gamers today. 

  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916

    They are probably resisting server-specific forums because people will use the forum activity level to draw conclusions about server populations.

     

    By keeping the servers grouped in big forum chunks, it becomes very difficult to gauge what's going on on specific servers by just looking at forum post counts.

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183

    WHat good does anything like this do before the population has settled? in two months there could only be 30-40 servers left, or even far less than that.

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  • 77lolmac7777lolmac77 Member UncommonPosts: 492

    so they sort of delivered what the players asked for

    like they sort of delivered an MMORPG

  • pierthpierth Member UncommonPosts: 1,494

    Originally posted by Creslin321

    So...let me get this straight.  They will have a single forum for a server "group" (I'm guessing maybe 5 servers), and when you post you are required to preface your topic with the name of your server...

    Ummmm, yeah...

    I just don't get why it's so hard to have a specific forum for each server.  WoW does it and I'm sure they have a lot more servers than SWTOR.

    The good news is after the population numbers dwindle there may only be a couple of servers left in each section. EA/Bioware is just planning ahead. image

  • Creslin321Creslin321 Member Posts: 5,359

    Originally posted by pierth

    Originally posted by Creslin321

    So...let me get this straight.  They will have a single forum for a server "group" (I'm guessing maybe 5 servers), and when you post you are required to preface your topic with the name of your server...

    Ummmm, yeah...

    I just don't get why it's so hard to have a specific forum for each server.  WoW does it and I'm sure they have a lot more servers than SWTOR.

    The good news is after the population numbers dwindle there may only be a couple of servers left in each section. EA/Bioware is just planning ahead. image

    LOL :).

    But seriously, I actually think it's even worse in that scenario.

    If you have a single forum for each server, then if one dies, you just delete the forum...done.

    But if you have "groups" of servers in each forum then you're inevitably going to run into issues where most of the servers in a few groups "die," but other groups still have all healthy servers.  So at this point, they will probably want to "merge" the groups with the dead servers together.  But this will be a major pain because now they have to tell the players that their forum is changing and why.

    I seriously have no idea why they don't want to just make a forum per server.  The only thing I can think of is that they purchased their forum solution from some vendor, and that vendor doesn't allow much customization or bases their licensing on the amount of forums you have.

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  • leojreimrocleojreimroc Member UncommonPosts: 371

    Originally posted by Drakxii

    It's just a fourm, it doesn't take any real game devs to make or mantain.  Also unless the forum system bioware uses is shit, the number of fourms doesn't really matter so why wouldn't you just have server fourms?  Heck alot of MMOs have three forums per server(trade, guild recrew, and general) not three servers per fourm.

    This says it all I think.  There's no reason not to have server forums.

  • RizelStarRizelStar Member UncommonPosts: 2,773

    Originally posted by Drakxii

    Originally posted by RizelStar


    Originally posted by dubyahite

    Everything is an issue aroun here Rizel.

    That's an really odd issue and then people are still displeased with it, guess that shows fixing issues hurt em more(sometimes).

    Of course it's an issue.  Server fourms are great for guild recrewing, recrewing for world bosses, selling epics, warning poeple about ninja d-bags, etc...  

     

    It's just a fourm, it doesn't take any real game devs to make or mantain.  Also unless the forum system bioware uses is shit, the number of fourms doesn't really matter so why wouldn't you just have server fourms?  Heck alot of MMOs have three forums per server(trade, guild recrew, and general) not three servers per fourm.

    Ahh ok that's understandable then, that really does suck :/.

    I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.

    I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.

    P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)

    Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.

  • pierthpierth Member UncommonPosts: 1,494

    Originally posted by Creslin321

    Originally posted by pierth


    Originally posted by Creslin321

    So...let me get this straight.  They will have a single forum for a server "group" (I'm guessing maybe 5 servers), and when you post you are required to preface your topic with the name of your server...

    Ummmm, yeah...

    I just don't get why it's so hard to have a specific forum for each server.  WoW does it and I'm sure they have a lot more servers than SWTOR.

    The good news is after the population numbers dwindle there may only be a couple of servers left in each section. EA/Bioware is just planning ahead. image

    LOL :).

    But seriously, I actually think it's even worse in that scenario.

    If you have a single forum for each server, then if one dies, you just delete the forum...done.

    But if you have "groups" of servers in each forum then you're inevitably going to run into issues where most of the servers in a few groups "die," but other groups still have all healthy servers.  So at this point, they will probably want to "merge" the groups with the dead servers together.  But this will be a major pain because now they have to tell the players that their forum is changing and why.

    I seriously have no idea why they don't want to just make a forum per server.  The only thing I can think of is that they purchased their forum solution from some vendor, and that vendor doesn't allow much customization or bases their licensing on the amount of forums you have.

    I don't know that that is really an issue TBH- as long as EA/Bioware treat server merges in the same way Trion has by allowing free transfers to better populated servers I don't know that the players who still enjoy the game will care either way. Even moreso if more personal/class storyline content is added because that is the meat of the game, period.

     

    There are always doom and gloom threads about how the game is dying for any new release game and populations always tend to drop after the first month- it's inevitable for any game that uses so much advertisement and hype. The big thing is if they can keep making content for the people that enjoy the game but have exhausted the content rather than trying to capture those other players that they haven't yet (and wind up alienating what players they already have).

  • HricaHrica Member UncommonPosts: 1,129

    This Asian grind game must be stopped!!

     

    It's Obamush's fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916

    Originally posted by Creslin321

    Originally posted by pierth


    Originally posted by Creslin321

    So...let me get this straight.  They will have a single forum for a server "group" (I'm guessing maybe 5 servers), and when you post you are required to preface your topic with the name of your server...

    Ummmm, yeah...

     

    I just don't get why it's so hard to have a specific forum for each server.  WoW does it and I'm sure they have a lot more servers than SWTOR.

    The good news is after the population numbers dwindle there may only be a couple of servers left in each section. EA/Bioware is just planning ahead. image

    LOL :).

    But seriously, I actually think it's even worse in that scenario.

    If you have a single forum for each server, then if one dies, you just delete the forum...done.

    But if you have "groups" of servers in each forum then you're inevitably going to run into issues where most of the servers in a few groups "die," but other groups still have all healthy servers.  So at this point, they will probably want to "merge" the groups with the dead servers together.  But this will be a major pain because now they have to tell the players that their forum is changing and why.

    I seriously have no idea why they don't want to just make a forum per server.  The only thing I can think of is that they purchased their forum solution from some vendor, and that vendor doesn't allow much customization or bases their licensing on the amount of forums you have.

    Given the aggressive use of server instancing, even servers that are listed as FULL have limited amounts of players in each instance. Everybody has a pretty smooth game.

     

    So as an individual player, do you know how many instances are running on your server ? Would you notice if 90% of them ceased to exist ? It would have no effect at all on your game experience. If the server screen still said FULL or Heavy, how would you know if that was true ? Would it matter to your gameplay ?

     

    I'd think server merges could be delayed for quite a while without impacting on players' game experience. Server merges are usually bad PR for any game.

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,976

    Originally posted by Drakxii

    Lazy, lazy, lazy devs.  

    It has nothing to do with lazy. Probably has nothing to do with the Developers.

    EA doesn't want to spend the money. Probably cuts into their profits.

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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183

    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Originally posted by Drakxii

    Lazy, lazy, lazy devs.  

    It has nothing to do with lazy. Probably has nothing to do with the Developers.

    EA doesn't want to spend the money. Probably cuts into their profits.

    Probably something like this, I don't know how people can think it would be "TOR devs" creating anything on the website though lol.

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  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Member CommonPosts: 10,910

    Meh. They could have just created a 'Guild Recruitment' forum, and told you to use a drop down for the server name or something like that.

    I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.

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