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Very good post by Deathshroud. But I disagree with him on the irc part. When Henrik himself comes into IRC and promises stuff even if it is not on the soon to be develpoed page I would take that as a promise after all he is the CEO of the company. And we all know that the list would be 4 times as long if we counted all the promises Henrik talked about.
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promises?? this is a list of features/content that has been spoken of officaily as coming soon but as of yet has not been included in the game. These only include features talked about on the forums in official threads and not stuff talked of in unoffical sources of information like irc etc. This isnt a rage post or anything just a convenient list of missing content that can be looked at. 1. Tindrem tindrem was one of the official planned features for the release version of MO and was not delivered. Recently announced as coming soon in the next free expansion SV chose to drop tindrem from the release feature list and added theivery instead. 2. Fishing, originally the devs stated there would be 70 different fish types for MO which would be added shortly after fishing. Currently there are 10 types with no official information on the rest being added. 3. Bullhorses, after dawn the devs mentioned that bullhorses would soon get their own gene system and that the current ones were just a palceholder. 4. Horse Breeding was a planned feature for release shortly after the dawn expansion which to date has not really been talked about since. 5. gui/ai these two features have been present on the in developemnt section plenty of times since release and up till now have not been added. The recent expansion announced both of these as core features of it. 6. crossbows and lances, both have been present on the in development section, very little information has been given on either of them since. Recent inclusion of sentries with crossbows may hint at their arrival soon. 7. New magic schools, new magic schools have been seen in the in development section but up until now have not been imlemented other than a half finished spiritism magic school. 8. Dragon and firegollum(possibly kimuru), these 2 boss type creatures were seen in the open beta release trailer but as of yet have not been included in the game. 9. First Epic Mob, the first epic mob in myrland (the testicle turkey thing??) was a coming soon feature, there was even flash candle lit as part of the lore/puzzle but the actual mob never really materialised other than a few fly overs. 10. second risar invasion, the risar invasion was originally cut short and was planned to restart shortly afterwards which never happened. 11. etherworld, thev etherworld was supposed to get dangerous/have new content added and featured on the in development section but up untilnow this has not been implemented. 12. Territory Control, Both the Scorpio siege weapon, Arbalast and siege tents can bee seen on the preview screenshots but none are currently ingame. Outlawing of players from a town is still not part of the TC content yet was talked about before patch release. |
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Seems like SV are having big troubles finishing each new thing they start/promise
That is just a small fraction of the undelivered promises. Just go to the old HoC chats and make a list... Taverns, Hot/Cold system, Roaming Guards, UO like bag system, ships...
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Has anyone made a list of things that they promised and then actually delivered though? Might be easier.
thats all still planned i wouldnt hold them agaisnt that since no real form of eta was ever given on any of those things. They are always adding to the list of planned features but i cant really say they broke a promise when no eta or real time frame is given for almost all the planned features, carts, boats, babunta beast, nordveld etc are all planned features. all mmos have planned features its jsut that mo reveals them even thoguh they arent planned for the next patch or expansion.
The ones i listed featured in videos, offical forum posts or the under development section. I dont consider irc as a formal way of communication between the developers and the community, its informal and gives a little insight into what they are doing and planning i think its nice that they use it and the other option is simply stopping communication other than formal posts on the forums darkfall style which imo would be a bad thing. Communication is important.
there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.
Death we will have to disagree on what is "official". When Henrik says we will soon have this and that. I am expecting a couple months no years. What you are saying is really don't listen to Henrik. Which I do also agree. He reminds me of a slick used car salesman. But one time I did beleive it would be soon and to soon(tm) Then I realized hell this dude is talking out of his ass most of the time. Especially making claims it will be better than all other mmos and nonsence.
I again will say. When I have the owner of a company telling me he will give me something soon. I expect it soon. What an owner of a company says I take as official.
I do not know what shinzon is on about either.
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you sure they promised Tindrem for release? i don't think so... i remember the old Release plan and it said "full myrland continent", but then they said that we were not going to see Tindrem as well
Tindrem was never promised for release.
All NPC related things are on hold due to shit AI, so we might see some cool stuff with Awakening.
The rest, you are right. ETA?
Many times during beta they officially said it would be open on release.
From what i know about these guys they are a very small company only a few devs or wahtever.
Things take time and will take even longer if you only have a few people working on them. Think about it they only have a the amonut of horus in a day to work on things ,what happens if they hit a really big bug on one feature they are working on thats gonna take a very long time to resolve, do they put everything else on hold jsut to fix this one feature? or do they put this feature to the side to look at another time so they can carry on working on other things?
I am sure all these things and more they do want to have in game adn im sure they have a vision for MO, but they are a small company so things will take time simple as..
By the way i dont play MO but there is no reason to bash a smal ldev company all the time im sure they have had their hands full just trying to fix all the bugs the game had LOL...
no secret that they are a small company and that there are bugs in the game, i completely understand that they get side tracked with bugs and issues, or complications with implementing certain things or requests for certain features from the community which in turn change their priorities.
there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.
Problem with this is they are charging the same price as a large development house with lots of talent/coders. If the indies with their "work-in-progress" games would charge, say, $5 a month with a $25 or so box price, I could see the validity of the "hey they are small give em a break" arguement. I mean, if they are so small and have so little staff, shouldn't they be able to get by with a lot less $$$???
P.S. Also, if you know you are a small indie studio and coding features is going to take so long, don't over-promise/over-hype. It just sets everyone up for disappointment when you can't deliver...
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Tindrem was supposed to be on release, I remember it clearly.