Its good for jagex to finally do something....been like years. Anyway i feel like the only reason theyre doing this is because they lost so many subscribers after bots went out, at least 60% were bots. Probably going after the bot makers cause theyre so money hungry. OR since they were put under new managment they probably decided.....wtf? we can sue em?
Well than you better hope no game developer decides FRAPS is against their EULA or they might be next.
Like I said a slippery slope.
It really isn't.
Like Fareas indicates, Fraps doesn't break the EULA. Where an issue might arise is if some used FRAPS to make movies using in game assets and then tried to charge money for them. However, I suspect the individual would be sued.
In the case of someone creating Bot software, they are creating it to directly interface with the game so that they can manipulate and take advantage of game assets in a way the developers did not intend.
If anything, the regular use of FRAPS is a good thing as it sort of promotes the game, good or bad.
So no developer has ever or will ever put in thier EULA a clause that makes recording game scenes against the rules? I wouldn't be so sure about that if I was you. I mean if a company spends 100 million + rendering large amounts of in game cinimatics (the price to make a lot of movies) how long do you think it will take until some exec or investor starts to look at that investment more like a movie that you are required to pay to get access to rather than just let you download the entire sequence from you tube? I'm afraid that this ruling (amount others) sets a precedent for them to go after the tool developer which is much easier to track down and sue than trying to find users who break the EULA.
You are assuming the difference between the Bot software and something like Fraps is clear cut enough that even Lawyers, Judges and Jury's could see the difference. While you and I might see a difference I'm not convinced the legal system will.
I'm not saying anything bad will come of this or that this specific outcome isn't good for Runescapes players. I'm saying this kind of ruling "could" be misused in the future against what you and I would consider legit software tools by a overzelous developer. That's what I don't like about it.
As a condition of this case the Snellmans have been ordered to give up all websites, domains, source code and customer details to Jagex along with all the details of all those individuals who have developed scripts for iBOT and sold or re-sold those scripts.
Gerhard concluded with: “The result of this case against the Snellmans should serve as a serious deterrent for anyone who continues to be involved in developing botting software or scripts or even maintaining or supporting those involved.”
Isn't this just the WoW Glider decision all over again?
What worries me is that such victories will need to be won on a user-by-user (or company by company) basis. That could take a damned good long time.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
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Its good for jagex to finally do something....been like years. Anyway i feel like the only reason theyre doing this is because they lost so many subscribers after bots went out, at least 60% were bots. Probably going after the bot makers cause theyre so money hungry. OR since they were put under new managment they probably decided.....wtf? we can sue em?
I like this. I have been banning bots on an RO server for years and welcome anything that puts a hold on this piece trash for cheaters.
So no developer has ever or will ever put in thier EULA a clause that makes recording game scenes against the rules? I wouldn't be so sure about that if I was you. I mean if a company spends 100 million + rendering large amounts of in game cinimatics (the price to make a lot of movies) how long do you think it will take until some exec or investor starts to look at that investment more like a movie that you are required to pay to get access to rather than just let you download the entire sequence from you tube? I'm afraid that this ruling (amount others) sets a precedent for them to go after the tool developer which is much easier to track down and sue than trying to find users who break the EULA.
You are assuming the difference between the Bot software and something like Fraps is clear cut enough that even Lawyers, Judges and Jury's could see the difference. While you and I might see a difference I'm not convinced the legal system will.
I'm not saying anything bad will come of this or that this specific outcome isn't good for Runescapes players. I'm saying this kind of ruling "could" be misused in the future against what you and I would consider legit software tools by a overzelous developer. That's what I don't like about it.
Isn't this just the WoW Glider decision all over again?
What worries me is that such victories will need to be won on a user-by-user (or company by company) basis. That could take a damned good long time.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.