I remember before the release of L2 a large portion of the code wa supposedly stolen which led to exploits , bots, gold farmers under every rock etc. Now Nc say that the source code for L3 has gone the same way. Either NC has the worst security ever in the games industry or they release portions of the code on purpose ( afterall they didn't exactly rush to get rid of the farmers in L2 did they ). This time however it seems that someone has had the nerve to actually use it in the production of another game instead of just finding the loopholes that can be exploited in L3 so out come the lawsuits. Here is an idea NC, keep the bloody code secret you morons.
Almost impossible to do, these were employes working on the assets they stole. You can remove USB ports from PC's but the only real way of stopping people transferring stuff out is no internet, blocking port 21 (ftp) aint going to do it.
Ya ncsoft is right to ask the justice for some retaliation cause copy and pasting game full or in part without payment should be nuclearised to smithereen.ncsoft might not close the game but they should get 25% of sale at store.not 25% of the profit.this way terabytes would still be allowed to lunch and secondo ncsoft wouldn't be in the very precarious situation it is in now because of. This issue
They were found guilty of the crime in Korea, but their copyright laws somehow allowed TERA to continue to be made over there. that will not be happening on the other side of the world though.
I think we Cannot be so sure? It says "similar cases have been adjudicated in Korea between NCSoft and BlueHole Studios resulting in both criminal and civil convictions against BHS. Both decsions have, however, had portions overturned and remain in appeals courts in Korea."
See, what I'm making out of this is that the court has not charged BHS with anything yet.
So essentially they have twice been found guilty (once on appeal) sure a portion was overturned but essentially it was upheld. I understand from the other linked article that the case is now at the highest court in Korea. Nowhere left for them to go after that one.
As much as I would like to see TERA be released, I don't think anyone should be allowed to get away with stealing source code from another company and using it in another game. If it can be proven that this was indeed done with TERA, they should not be allowed to release the game.
Not sure how you get that from the piece. According to the article it resulted in jail sentences in Korea. It concludes
It does look like they have a pretty strong case here, and this could mean a significant delay for TERA, perhaps even kill it dead. We’ll keep you posted.
I doubt NCSoft would benefit much by killing TERA. I think they're more interested in settling for a lot of cash than in killing something that could make them money.
I remember before the release of L2 a large portion of the code wa supposedly stolen which led to exploits , bots, gold farmers under every rock etc. Now Nc say that the source code for L3 has gone the same way. Either NC has the worst security ever in the games industry or they release portions of the code on purpose ( afterall they didn't exactly rush to get rid of the farmers in L2 did they ). This time however it seems that someone has had the nerve to actually use it in the production of another game instead of just finding the loopholes that can be exploited in L3 so out come the lawsuits. Here is an idea NC, keep the bloody code secret you morons.
Yeah, keep the code secret from the coders, way to go.
I doubt NCSoft would benefit much by killing TERA. I think they're more interested in settling for a lot of cash than in killing something that could make them money.
Yeah can't see how that does anyone any good. You know what I had a wierd 'I wonder if one day Terra will end up in the NCsoft stable' moment, then I thought about it and realised it was pretty foolish.
They were found guilty of the crime in Korea, but their copyright laws somehow allowed TERA to continue to be made over there. that will not be happening on the other side of the world though.
I think we Cannot be so sure? It says "similar cases have been adjudicated in Korea between NCSoft and BlueHole Studios resulting in both criminal and civil convictions against BHS. Both decsions have, however, had portions overturned and remain in appeals courts in Korea."
See, what I'm making out of this is that the court has not charged BHS with anything yet.
The story goes like this.
The former leaders of project Lineage 3 where found guilty because they stole the code and apparently intended to sell it but it was never proven in court that the code was used to make TERA. This is why TERA is still standing in Korea.
I think we shouldn't voice our opinion on this matter, the code was indeed stolen but probably the thief are the same people as those who worked on the code.
It's possible that they just think the code is their own since the worked on it.
Anyone who works for a corporation knows this is not true. Anything you do/create on company time is the property of that company and you will have signed paperwork saying as much.
too bad not every corp do so, and they still have to prove you used "theyr" time to do it, still funny part is no way to us know if they used the code or not if they don't show us the code
But will this effect the UK/EU launch as well as the NA one? I am not aware of any court case this side of the pond.
possible it will I don't remember they saying the EU would be a diferent from NA, is still the same publisher, in worse case scenario they could just do a ip block to NA and let all the rest access to it
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Almost impossible to do, these were employes working on the assets they stole. You can remove USB ports from PC's but the only real way of stopping people transferring stuff out is no internet, blocking port 21 (ftp) aint going to do it.
So essentially they have twice been found guilty (once on appeal) sure a portion was overturned but essentially it was upheld. I understand from the other linked article that the case is now at the highest court in Korea. Nowhere left for them to go after that one.
As much as I would like to see TERA be released, I don't think anyone should be allowed to get away with stealing source code from another company and using it in another game. If it can be proven that this was indeed done with TERA, they should not be allowed to release the game.
I doubt NCSoft would benefit much by killing TERA. I think they're more interested in settling for a lot of cash than in killing something that could make them money.
Yeah, keep the code secret from the coders, way to go.
Yeah can't see how that does anyone any good. You know what I had a wierd 'I wonder if one day Terra will end up in the NCsoft stable' moment, then I thought about it and realised it was pretty foolish.
The story goes like this.
The former leaders of project Lineage 3 where found guilty because they stole the code and apparently intended to sell it but it was never proven in court that the code was used to make TERA. This is why TERA is still standing in Korea.
too bad not every corp do so, and they still have to prove you used "theyr" time to do it, still funny part is no way to us know if they used the code or not if they don't show us the code
Sorry to sound like a broken record.
But will this effect the UK/EU launch as well as the NA one? I am not aware of any court case this side of the pond.
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possible it will I don't remember they saying the EU would be a diferent from NA, is still the same publisher, in worse case scenario they could just do a ip block to NA and let all the rest access to it